Sheesh, I'm glad no one was telling me it was vapo[u]rware when I was contributing to this book... Hey guys, say what you like about.NET CF but it does exist and will ship within weeks. Really.
Thanks for clarifying the difference between the constitution and the bill of rights. That's a subtle point that I'd missed.
However, I don't think I really answered my own question in this case. The "And yes I live..." sentence was intended to forstall the knee-jerk response of certain people round here. Actually I quite like the UK, faults and all.:-)
Seems like a rather odd argument to me. It seems to be saying (and forgive me for any misunderstanding). Constitutions are good -- you don't mind not having one in your country -- therefore you don't want this good thing -- therefore you are not worth explaining to. I could equally start from the premise that constitutions are bad and come up with a different argument.
Why do so many Americans take the view that the Constitution is a priori a good thing in and of itself, and therefore anything that can be seen to conflict with, say, the constitutional right to free speech is in and of itself a bad thing?
Is it not possible to argue that child porn is a bad thing, socially unacceptable, with devastating consequences for innocent lives. Therefore if the constitution has some kind of loophole which permits child porn, perhaps there is something wrong with the constitution?
Guys, lots of us are software engineers here. If the specification for your project is causing massive problems, consider getting the spec changed!
Don't get me wrong. The constitution was a wonderful thing back in the eighteenth century and a vast improvement not only on its predecessors but its sucessors too in many ways. I'm just baffled how so many folks in the USA act as though the constitution was handed on tablets of stone from Mount Sinai by Founding Fathers who were acting in some infallible capacity.
Not a troll, just curious. And yes, I live in a land with no constitution, cameras on every street corner, and elective dictatorship and bad dentistry blah blah blah. Before you tell me what's so bad about my world, please satisfy my curiosity about yours.
Read their contracts and sign up to be a registrar (this will probably cost)
These days you will be required to implement the EPP protocol for registrar/registry communication
Profit (or these days, not)
What you may find more useful is to be a reseller, dealing with a registrar, rather than dealing with the registry directly. Some of the stories I've heard about the competition between registrars to get soon-to-be-released domain names from the registry would make your hair curl....
(Having done some work for a registry, Poptel who manage.COOP, implementing the EPP protocol for them, I can tell you it's not an easy way to make money!)
Even if true, and I have no inside knowlege here, I presume that the Windows Forms and GDI stuff would be kept for backwards compatibility. I can only assume that if they really "dropped support" for these technologies they would have a lot of furious developers. Possible of course, although not hugely likely in my view... YMMV
Sheesh, why do I bother? I had no idea that the value of an example declines with time. I don't remember saying it was the best example, and if I had I had no idea that in defending a proposition I was obliged to ignore the "best" example that illustrated my point. Anyway, others in this thread have come up with other examples.
Now, if you want to know what people in the UK really think about CCTV, ask them about traffic speed cameras. No one really likes them because we all love to speed and break the law (sometimes the law is right, sometimes it's an ass...) But you hear very little complaints about shopping malls with CCTV.
Shifting the subject slightly, what about Rodney King? Had there been more CCTVs about then perhaps the LAPD would have thought twice.... well, maybe, not being an American citizen I'm not willing to be too definite on that one.
Classic slashdot argument tactics - change what is said into a bizarre absolute and then hold it to ridicule.
So are you saying that there isn't way, WAY more CCTV in the UK... than there is in the US?
I said no such thing. Please read the post.
monitored by the government
I said no such thing. Please read the post. I think you'll find that a large percentage of CCTV is run by non-governmental organisations who wish to protect their property and the health and safety of their employees. (Remember, life, liberty and the persuit of property, anyone?)
You have no expectation not to have government eyes on you at all times when you are outside of your home, and the reason that there are not cameras in your neighborhood and on your street is not because of a law against it, but rather because it just hasn't become practical yet.
I had difficulty parsing this sentence on account of the number of negatives, so I can't quite bring myself to agree or disagree with it. However, I do have the expectation that the law enforcement agencies will protect me and my loved ones against thieves muggers and the like.
Anyone who knows the UK government (all colours) which is too mean to fund decent railways, roads and infrastructure will know that they couldn't be bothered to monitor us ALL 24/7. They don't really care enough. Anyone who thinks the gu'ment is interested in watching them all the time has a misplaced sense of their own self-importance.
This CCTV thing is a typical Slashdot knee-jerk response to any "civil liberties" issue in the UK. It applies to shopping centres and places like that. There's no CCTV in my street, my neighbourhood, my house, my garage, my desk....
Good grief, if someone snatches my wallet I'd be quite glad if CCTV helped to catch the thief. Wasn't CCTV evidence used to catch the killers of Jamie Bulger?
Alien Bodies and Interference, along with The Infinity Doctors, rate in my view as the best in the BBC range. For the Virgin NA series, Human Nature is pretty good too.
The main problem with the both BBC and Virgin series is that they are the work of many hands and the quality varies enormously.
Wonderful as Delphi certainly is, I don't recall that Delphi was ever a part of VB1,2 or 3. If memory serves, Delphi didn't exist as a product until sometime between the launch of VB3 and VB4.
I used to work for Poptel (who do the technical end of domain management for dot coop). Oh, if only we had $1 for every time someone cracked that joke....
Yeah, it's lots of fun dissing Bill. But Slashdot will get more kudos in the wider world if it restricts it's criticism of Microsoft to situations where it's really justified.
Around about the early 80's he was credited as "The Doctor".
But only ONCE was he referred to by the name "Doctor who" in dialog (The War Games). Oh, and the 2nd Doctor signs a note "Doctor von Wer" in one episode.
(Remind where "Theta Sigma" comes into all this... I forget...
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However, I don't think I really answered my own question in this case. The "And yes I live..." sentence was intended to forstall the knee-jerk response of certain people round here. Actually I quite like the UK, faults and all. :-)
Seems like a rather odd argument to me. It seems to be saying (and forgive me for any misunderstanding). Constitutions are good -- you don't mind not having one in your country -- therefore you don't want this good thing -- therefore you are not worth explaining to. I could equally start from the premise that constitutions are bad and come up with a different argument.
Is it not possible to argue that child porn is a bad thing, socially unacceptable, with devastating consequences for innocent lives. Therefore if the constitution has some kind of loophole which permits child porn, perhaps there is something wrong with the constitution? Guys, lots of us are software engineers here. If the specification for your project is causing massive problems, consider getting the spec changed!
Don't get me wrong. The constitution was a wonderful thing back in the eighteenth century and a vast improvement not only on its predecessors but its sucessors too in many ways. I'm just baffled how so many folks in the USA act as though the constitution was handed on tablets of stone from Mount Sinai by Founding Fathers who were acting in some infallible capacity.
Not a troll, just curious. And yes, I live in a land with no constitution, cameras on every street corner, and elective dictatorship and bad dentistry blah blah blah. Before you tell me what's so bad about my world, please satisfy my curiosity about yours.
Prediction: This discussion will end up with someone wittering on about punch cards, paper tape, and front panel access to core memory.
Then someone else will recall the Dilbert cartoon where the engineer boasts "I made a database entirely out of zeros because we had no ones".
Oh, damn, done it myself.
What you may find more useful is to be a reseller, dealing with a registrar, rather than dealing with the registry directly. Some of the stories I've heard about the competition between registrars to get soon-to-be-released domain names from the registry would make your hair curl....
(Having done some work for a registry, Poptel who manage .COOP, implementing the EPP protocol for them, I can tell you it's not an easy way to make money!)
Moulin Rouge Evita
Even if true, and I have no inside knowlege here, I presume that the Windows Forms and GDI stuff would be kept for backwards compatibility. I can only assume that if they really "dropped support" for these technologies they would have a lot of furious developers. Possible of course, although not hugely likely in my view... YMMV
Now, if you want to know what people in the UK really think about CCTV, ask them about traffic speed cameras. No one really likes them because we all love to speed and break the law (sometimes the law is right, sometimes it's an ass...) But you hear very little complaints about shopping malls with CCTV.
Shifting the subject slightly, what about Rodney King? Had there been more CCTVs about then perhaps the LAPD would have thought twice.... well, maybe, not being an American citizen I'm not willing to be too definite on that one.
So are you saying that there isn't way, WAY more CCTV in the UK ... than there is in the US?
I said no such thing. Please read the post.
monitored by the government
I said no such thing. Please read the post. I think you'll find that a large percentage of CCTV is run by non-governmental organisations who wish to protect their property and the health and safety of their employees. (Remember, life, liberty and the persuit of property, anyone?)
You have no expectation not to have government eyes on you at all times when you are outside of your home, and the reason that there are not cameras in your neighborhood and on your street is not because of a law against it, but rather because it just hasn't become practical yet.
I had difficulty parsing this sentence on account of the number of negatives, so I can't quite bring myself to agree or disagree with it. However, I do have the expectation that the law enforcement agencies will protect me and my loved ones against thieves muggers and the like.
Anyone who knows the UK government (all colours) which is too mean to fund decent railways, roads and infrastructure will know that they couldn't be bothered to monitor us ALL 24/7. They don't really care enough. Anyone who thinks the gu'ment is interested in watching them all the time has a misplaced sense of their own self-importance.
Good grief, if someone snatches my wallet I'd be quite glad if CCTV helped to catch the thief. Wasn't CCTV evidence used to catch the killers of Jamie Bulger?
Mods mark parent FUNNY!
Also covered by the Beeb, which goes on to comment:
The strictures that apply to Microsoft will also affect the Liberty Alliance identity system set up to provide an alternative to Passport.
Not this March this year!
Oh, and forgot to mention that Lance Parkin's The Dying Days although out of print, is available online from the BBC web site.
The main problem with the both BBC and Virgin series is that they are the work of many hands and the quality varies enormously.
thinks.... Mono?
You are Terry Pratchett and I claim my five pounds!
Well, you learn something new every day. What program was it, out if interest?
Your memory may vary of course.
I used to work for Poptel (who do the technical end of domain management for dot coop). Oh, if only we had $1 for every time someone cracked that joke....
Yeah, it's lots of fun dissing Bill. But Slashdot will get more kudos in the wider world if it restricts it's criticism of Microsoft to situations where it's really justified.
Any idea as to how much of .NET will be supported? I would assume it to be the "Compact Framework" subset?
Victoria, Zoe, Sarah Jane Smith, Romana II, Peri: yes. Jo Grant, Ace: The jury is still out Mel: NOOO!
But only ONCE was he referred to by the name "Doctor who" in dialog (The War Games). Oh, and the 2nd Doctor signs a note "Doctor von Wer" in one episode.
(Remind where "Theta Sigma" comes into all this... I forget...
Am I sad or what?