No, you're simply wrong. Go buy a good text on copyright law. Yes, you own the contents of the box. Yes, you own the registration card and the manual and the circular piece of plastic with the piece of metal in it. You "own" the game. But you don't own the rights. By purchasing the game, unless you have a different contract with the publisher, you only purchase the right to use the software. No more.
You legally can't print up large sections of data from the CD to hang on your wall. Not saying anyone would care, but you legally can't. You're not allowed to transfer content from one medium to another without the copyright owner's permission. The only legal reason you can edit the data on the CD is to get it to work on your machine as well as it was intended. You can't just go and edit it to your heart's content, whether you distribute that or not.
Ok, here's this from a UPI story by Modher Amin from Aug. 19, 2004 (sorry, don't have a link. Found it on LexisNexis):
"The entire Zionist territory, including its nuclear establishments and atomic munitions are now within the range of Iran's advanced missiles," he said, quoted by the Iranian press.
"He" would be Revolutionary Guards chief Yadollah Javani
Then we know that Ayatollah Khomeini, who the current mullahs inherited their power from, has called us the "Great Satan" and called for the destruction of Israel and the US.
But, no, although I distinctly remember hearing a senator say that Iran had said that they would be looking to destroy Israel with nukes, I can't find a quote. So, I retract that. But it's still not a good place.
What you pointed to has nothing to do with this discussion. You pointed to law about copying programs, not altering or modifying them. You can't modify what you don't own the copyright to. Fair use doesn't give you that right1. Here's a passage from the law you pointed to:
Christ, I don't know why everyone thinks copyright laws and licensing are more than marginally related. As a copyright owner, I can dictate to you how you're allowed to use my product. If you don't like it, don't buy it, or tell me so, and I'll take back my product. A video game maker can say that you can only use this product in the way they specify. If you don't agree to it, return the merchandise. When you "buy" a game, you're not paying for the media it comes on, you're paying for the right to use the software.
You don't need a EULA to read a book, but you need an agreement to MODIFY said book2
1It gives you the right to modify and/or reverse engineer software to make it work on your machine.
2That doesn't include making notes in the margin, etc, so don't try to make that analogy.
I know it's not a signature. But by playing the game, you agree to be bound by its license. It's a huge part of copyright law that is enforcable in US courts. I'd recommend reading Web and Software Development: A Legal Guide.
It'll teach all you need to know about IP law and copyright law, patents, employment agreements, NDAs, all that good stuff.
Opening a box isn't, but if you'll look at the license agreement in the manual that comes with it, you'll see that playing the game signifies your acceptance of the terms.
You say this as if you've forgotten that Iran has said that the first thing they'll do when they get nukes is fire them at Israel.
letting insane people have weapons is not good.
On the other hand, what the fuck is up with the Bush Administration? Telling all these countries that they can't have nukes while funding programs to develop more of our own? Maybe not to us, but that looks like hypocrisy to the rest of the world.
I think we're seeing this more and more in IT. As society realizes the fields that IT can apply to, we'll see it move out of engineering and CS departments, and mature into things like the School of Informatics at Indiana University.
I never said it was the best, but it's the best in a managed environment. And please tell me you don't run two AVs at the same time, that'd be retardulous.
Getting sued for altering your own property in your own home is an abuse of the justice system.
Hey there, friend. I'd like to enlighten you to something we call intellectual property law. Truth is, you don't "own" any of your games. You don't "own" software. You license it. That is to say, you're allowed to use it as long as you follow the publisher's rules set forth in the little license agreement. The second you step beyond the boundaries of said agreement, you void your license , which by pushing the "I agree" button makes it a contract between you and the publisher. You have now breached your contract, and are subject to legal action.
The Internet is a medium of anonymity. There's no easy way to prevent the sale of mature video games to minors without a huge invasion of privacy, another obstacle.
Yes there is. It's called a credit card.
And who is defining what is mature content?
The ESRB, as always. They've been doing it for about 15 years now. Get in the loop.
The correct solution is the EU and Japanese one - the companies are made legally obliged to take care of recycling their goods (they sometimes manage to offload it to the reseller, but legally they are responsible for it). As a result if a company makes a product easier and cheaper for recycling it improves its margin.
I don't know what it's like in the EU or Japan, but corporations have a death grip on Washington and won't allow them to do anything that will cost them more money. See energy policy and environmental policy for evidence.
Everything Google stores about you is in a cookie, so if you wanna be an ignorant dumbass and believe cookies can harm you, then just block google.com from setting cookies.
That's the problem with you Brits. You just don't know how to sue the shit out of someone on flimsy claims and net embarassingly large rewards. And you wonder why the empire fell.
The next killer app in the mobile world will be a device that combines a music player, a video game system, a PDA, a phone, and a camera. Does the PSP have phone capabilities?
No, I think he was referring to the Rio Karma. It supports MP3, OGG, WMA, FLAC, and I believe ACC. I love mine because I can even use it with my Linux box because the dock has an ethernet port and the player has a web interface that includes java applets to transfer music to and from the player.
Here's something you can do in WinXP (maybe in earlier versions too). It's not quite what you asked for, but it'll let you see everything at once:
CTRL-Click on the taskbar the windows you want to use. Then right-click on one of them, and select "Tile" either horizontally or vertically. I do this when I'm trying to watch different IM conversations.
I admired Sony until I got to Japan and found out the locals don't think much of the company, actually....too western thinking for the average Japanese consumer.
So you base your opinions on what Japanese locals think? You must be a big fan of Hello Kitty and privacy-invading toilets, then.
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No, you're simply wrong. Go buy a good text on copyright law. Yes, you own the contents of the box. Yes, you own the registration card and the manual and the circular piece of plastic with the piece of metal in it. You "own" the game. But you don't own the rights. By purchasing the game, unless you have a different contract with the publisher, you only purchase the right to use the software. No more.
You legally can't print up large sections of data from the CD to hang on your wall. Not saying anyone would care, but you legally can't. You're not allowed to transfer content from one medium to another without the copyright owner's permission. The only legal reason you can edit the data on the CD is to get it to work on your machine as well as it was intended. You can't just go and edit it to your heart's content, whether you distribute that or not.
Ok, here's this from a UPI story by Modher Amin from Aug. 19, 2004 (sorry, don't have a link. Found it on LexisNexis):
"The entire Zionist territory, including its nuclear establishments and atomic munitions are now within the range of Iran's advanced missiles," he said, quoted by the Iranian press.
"He" would be Revolutionary Guards chief Yadollah Javani
Then we know that Ayatollah Khomeini, who the current mullahs inherited their power from, has called us the "Great Satan" and called for the destruction of Israel and the US.
But, no, although I distinctly remember hearing a senator say that Iran had said that they would be looking to destroy Israel with nukes, I can't find a quote. So, I retract that. But it's still not a good place.
Sure, give me a little while.
That's ridiculous. Ads on the side != biased search results. At least Google tells you they're advertisements, unlike some other search engines.
I'm not doubting your claim, but do you have more than anecdotal evidence to back it up?
Ignore the line about the quote. I was going to quote something and explain what it actually means, but decided I didn't need to.
What you pointed to has nothing to do with this discussion. You pointed to law about copying programs, not altering or modifying them. You can't modify what you don't own the copyright to. Fair use doesn't give you that right1. Here's a passage from the law you pointed to:
Christ, I don't know why everyone thinks copyright laws and licensing are more than marginally related. As a copyright owner, I can dictate to you how you're allowed to use my product. If you don't like it, don't buy it, or tell me so, and I'll take back my product. A video game maker can say that you can only use this product in the way they specify. If you don't agree to it, return the merchandise. When you "buy" a game, you're not paying for the media it comes on, you're paying for the right to use the software.
You don't need a EULA to read a book, but you need an agreement to MODIFY said book2
1It gives you the right to modify and/or reverse engineer software to make it work on your machine.
2That doesn't include making notes in the margin, etc, so don't try to make that analogy.
I know it's not a signature. But by playing the game, you agree to be bound by its license. It's a huge part of copyright law that is enforcable in US courts. I'd recommend reading Web and Software Development: A Legal Guide.
It'll teach all you need to know about IP law and copyright law, patents, employment agreements, NDAs, all that good stuff.
Opening a box isn't, but if you'll look at the license agreement in the manual that comes with it, you'll see that playing the game signifies your acceptance of the terms.
You say this as if you've forgotten that Iran has said that the first thing they'll do when they get nukes is fire them at Israel.
letting insane people have weapons is not good.
On the other hand, what the fuck is up with the Bush Administration? Telling all these countries that they can't have nukes while funding programs to develop more of our own? Maybe not to us, but that looks like hypocrisy to the rest of the world.
True, but we're not talking private machines. The guy I was replying to was talking about corporations, so I was too.
Personally, I use Symantec at home because it's free to me. I also practice safe computing, so don't worry too much about viruses.
I think we're seeing this more and more in IT. As society realizes the fields that IT can apply to, we'll see it move out of engineering and CS departments, and mature into things like the School of Informatics at Indiana University.
I never said it was the best, but it's the best in a managed environment. And please tell me you don't run two AVs at the same time, that'd be retardulous.
Getting sued for altering your own property in your own home is an abuse of the justice system.
Hey there, friend. I'd like to enlighten you to something we call intellectual property law. Truth is, you don't "own" any of your games. You don't "own" software. You license it. That is to say, you're allowed to use it as long as you follow the publisher's rules set forth in the little license agreement. The second you step beyond the boundaries of said agreement, you void your license , which by pushing the "I agree" button makes it a contract between you and the publisher. You have now breached your contract, and are subject to legal action.
Yada yada yada.
Well, because AVG and Avast are free, they're less vulnerable, right?
Bullshit.
I like the hypocrisy of people criticizing Symantec's guy for touting security through obscurity, then turning around and preaching it themselves.
And I'd like to see how these things work in a corporate environment. Oh, wait. They don't.
Symantec has excellent corporate support and management features.
The Internet is a medium of anonymity. There's no easy way to prevent the sale of mature video games to minors without a huge invasion of privacy, another obstacle.
Yes there is. It's called a credit card.
And who is defining what is mature content?
The ESRB, as always. They've been doing it for about 15 years now. Get in the loop.
The correct solution is the EU and Japanese one - the companies are made legally obliged to take care of recycling their goods (they sometimes manage to offload it to the reseller, but legally they are responsible for it). As a result if a company makes a product easier and cheaper for recycling it improves its margin.
I don't know what it's like in the EU or Japan, but corporations have a death grip on Washington and won't allow them to do anything that will cost them more money. See energy policy and environmental policy for evidence.
Everything Google stores about you is in a cookie, so if you wanna be an ignorant dumbass and believe cookies can harm you, then just block google.com from setting cookies.
That's the problem with you Brits. You just don't know how to sue the shit out of someone on flimsy claims and net embarassingly large rewards. And you wonder why the empire fell.
Americans are litigous bastards, so sue me.
The next killer app in the mobile world will be a device that combines a music player, a video game system, a PDA, a phone, and a camera. Does the PSP have phone capabilities?
No, I think he was referring to the Rio Karma. It supports MP3, OGG, WMA, FLAC, and I believe ACC. I love mine because I can even use it with my Linux box because the dock has an ethernet port and the player has a web interface that includes java applets to transfer music to and from the player.
Here's something you can do in WinXP (maybe in earlier versions too). It's not quite what you asked for, but it'll let you see everything at once:
CTRL-Click on the taskbar the windows you want to use. Then right-click on one of them, and select "Tile" either horizontally or vertically. I do this when I'm trying to watch different IM conversations.
I admired Sony until I got to Japan and found out the locals don't think much of the company, actually....too western thinking for the average Japanese consumer.
So you base your opinions on what Japanese locals think? You must be a big fan of Hello Kitty and privacy-invading toilets, then.
Yeah, try telling that to the environmentalists. The NIMBY movement has ruined any chances of getting significant nuclear power production in the US
In other news, Outlook Express users are more likely than Thunderbird users to buy products from spam.