Hmm....
Actually, there are several platforms that.NET can exist happily on: Linux, FreeBSD (leading to ports for other BSD's), Win32. The only _major_ platform that isn't in that list is Sun, and there will be a.NET on Sun platforms, just like there is a Java platform on Win32.
Also, if you want to get into a "my university does..." battle, try this: Bjarne Stroustrup is a professor at my university and uses C# in the graduate class.
Actually, I think if you got a pig and put lipstick, makeup, eyeshadow, and a thong on it and called it "Britney"....it would be Britney Spears. Isn't that what her record label did?
see previous post. Also, even if MS's implementation was the only one (which it's not...what internet are you from?) open standards are still good; it creates the possibility for another implementation, it allows more (and better) criticism of a technology, it is helpful to those who develop systems that need to interact, etc, etc, etc.
me too! I was in my office studying late and saw this. I was screaming "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..." and then saw that it was a joke.
you think just because you're a former student that your SSN is no longer in danger??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Your SSN has been spread around every information source on that campus and will linger forever in some form or another. My SSN is also my student ID at my school (TAMU), and I'm 100% seriously planning to get a new SSN after I'm done with grad school. AFAIK, that's the only way to have a completely clean slate in terms of people not knowing your SSN.
uhh.....I don't think so. SunOS has had it's share.... but that's besides the point. The OS has little to do with privelage escalation, anyway; it has everything to do with the programmers who write programs that will be suid.
I think these big telecoms are really going to take it on the chin in the upcoming years, particularly as it gets easier for smaller companies to offer wireless services, and particularly as VoIP becomes popular.
a -1 for trolling just because I said yes? Whoever moderated this was a retard. The very first re to this story in the first place was a simple "no", indicating that there were no paid internships available; a very pessimistic outlook, I think. Yet it was rated a +5 as funny??
I simply say "yes" to indicate that there are internships out there (I just went to two college career fairs over the last 6 months hosting 500+ and 250+ companies, and I can guarantee you that YES, there are paid internships out there) and I am a Troll? What planet are you from?
jeez.
Actually, you're not far from the truth...the extremists commonly referred to as terrorists are pretty hypocritical. During the Tora Bora campaign, the Al Queda folks were driving Toyota Landrovers, for example.
Considering cost without considering the benefits doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. It's the relationship between the two that are what the decision should be made on.
Furthermore, what is the benefit to students by making the entire college anti-microsoft? It would be somewhat silly to graduate from a college and not have any experience with MS systems and software, particularly since there's a ~90% (iirc) chance that they'll be using MS stuff when they graduate. I'm all for teaching unix/bsd/linux at the undergraduate level (I'm fighting that battle in my own way at my school, in fact) and certainly for avoiding a reliance on Windows, but forcing an entire institution (if there are 7,000 students, then probably in the ballpark of 2,000 staff+instructors+administrators) to forego MS products entirely would not necesarily keep costs down, much less help productivity.
I think the ideal environment would be one that has roughly equal access to MS, Mac, and various *nix/bsd flavors as well as the software that is made for them. I would be spending most of my time in the *nix/bsd environment (as I already do), but one should not be mutually exclusive of the other.
Absolutely, I agree. It also depends on the individual. I interened with the Windows division during WindowsXP development, and the interns that were there that summer got together a lot and went into Seattle, took weekend trips, went sailing, dancing, whatever, you name it. In fact, MS even would pay for some of those trips if 35 people or more were going, which was often the case!
You missed the point. He wasn't saying that they could acheive "trustworthy computing" (a.k.a. unusable computing), he was saying that even if that were to happen people would still be people that dislike MS.
bc
yeah, I have to agree. To draw from a previous argument about "guns don't kill, people do"...saying that oss developers are 'helping' the U.S. fight a war in Iraq is like holding Remington or Beretta or whomever responsible for the murders committed by people with guns of that make. Absurd.
Having been an intern in the Windows division (I can't speak for Office...arch rivals of the Windows division --- they want to take over everything), I can tell you that most stability issues have very little to do with Windows itself (at least for XP since that was the product under development while I was there). Most 'bugs' are related to
retarded users who didn't bother learning to use things correctly
flakey 3rd party drivers....ATI comes to mind
really flakey 3rd party apps - developed in VB or whatever by a non-programmer who doesn't know what you're talking about when you asked him if his code verifies user input.
Having said that, MS has a really good bug-tracking tool that they use internally that actually is similar to bugzilla (at least as far as I can tell). The volume of bugs that developers are required to fix before release is phenomenal, and believe it or not, MS standards for what has to be fixed is actually quite high, much higher than most open-source projects that come to mind (this doesn't mean I'm not an open-source fan --- I just wanted to point out a seldom discussed fact).
There's no need to try and send things only on the zeros. It's perfectly reasonable to try and modulate your signal directly onto the power sinusoid. Also, it seems to me you could get even more bandwidth on the 3-phase systems.
It's interesting that the MS SQL worm that went around today would be such a problem....considering that MS released a patch for the vulnerability it exploits back in July: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/d efault. asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-039.asp
What do the sysadmins *think* is going to happen if you don't pay attention to security bulletins from major vendors and 3rd party orgs?
It seems to me that this would be very easy to beat if the p2p clients out there would generate an md5 hash of the users' files. Maybe you could have it so that 'trusted' users (ones who have traded quality audio/video for a certain length of time (2-3 months?) upload their hashes to a server, and when you go to download a file, the client will check the hash against the server's copy.
When are they going to finally understand that anything you can play can be copied, and anything you can't play won't make money???
Instead of every industry learning the hard way, they should all learn from Hollywood's example: initially, they fought VHS technology, but when they *finally* figured out that they could make money through rentals, they rolled with it and now make far more than they ever would have without VHS.
How can you not see this as a free speech issue? How can anyone tell me not to put something on my website without it being a free speech issue? As for me, I will be throwing caution to the wind and linking to whomever I want with impunity.
As a grad student, I'm suddenly inspired to get some people together and perform some similar "operations" and "hacks" (as they apparently call it at MIT)....
Hack #1: saw Bevo's horns off
(evil grin)
.com,.org,.net and.edu can be registered for from any country. It's not like the US is forcing sites located in other countries to use their tld's (as if we could). Also, the reason that it appears that the US has a 'monopoly' on those 4 domains is because the internet started here.
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Hmm.... Actually, there are several platforms that .NET can exist happily on: Linux, FreeBSD (leading to ports for other BSD's), Win32. The only _major_ platform that isn't in that list is Sun, and there will be a .NET on Sun platforms, just like there is a Java platform on Win32.
Also, if you want to get into a "my university does..." battle, try this: Bjarne Stroustrup is a professor at my university and uses C# in the graduate class.
Actually, I think if you got a pig and put lipstick, makeup, eyeshadow, and a thong on it and called it "Britney"....it would be Britney Spears. Isn't that what her record label did?
see previous post. Also, even if MS's implementation was the only one (which it's not...what internet are you from?) open standards are still good; it creates the possibility for another implementation, it allows more (and better) criticism of a technology, it is helpful to those who develop systems that need to interact, etc, etc, etc.
me too! I was in my office studying late and saw this. I was screaming "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..." and then saw that it was a joke.
Talk about a heart attack...
you think just because you're a former student that your SSN is no longer in danger??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Your SSN has been spread around every information source on that campus and will linger forever in some form or another. My SSN is also my student ID at my school (TAMU), and I'm 100% seriously planning to get a new SSN after I'm done with grad school. AFAIK, that's the only way to have a completely clean slate in terms of people not knowing your SSN.
uhh.....I don't think so. SunOS has had it's share....
but that's besides the point. The OS has little to do with privelage escalation, anyway; it has everything to do with the programmers who write programs that will be suid.
I think these big telecoms are really going to take it on the chin in the upcoming years, particularly as it gets easier for smaller companies to offer wireless services, and particularly as VoIP becomes popular.
a -1 for trolling just because I said yes? Whoever moderated this was a retard. The very first re to this story in the first place was a simple "no", indicating that there were no paid internships available; a very pessimistic outlook, I think. Yet it was rated a +5 as funny?? I simply say "yes" to indicate that there are internships out there (I just went to two college career fairs over the last 6 months hosting 500+ and 250+ companies, and I can guarantee you that YES, there are paid internships out there) and I am a Troll? What planet are you from? jeez.
Actually, you're not far from the truth...the extremists commonly referred to as terrorists are pretty hypocritical. During the Tora Bora campaign, the Al Queda folks were driving Toyota Landrovers, for example.
Considering cost without considering the benefits doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. It's the relationship between the two that are what the decision should be made on. Furthermore, what is the benefit to students by making the entire college anti-microsoft? It would be somewhat silly to graduate from a college and not have any experience with MS systems and software, particularly since there's a ~90% (iirc) chance that they'll be using MS stuff when they graduate. I'm all for teaching unix/bsd/linux at the undergraduate level (I'm fighting that battle in my own way at my school, in fact) and certainly for avoiding a reliance on Windows, but forcing an entire institution (if there are 7,000 students, then probably in the ballpark of 2,000 staff+instructors+administrators) to forego MS products entirely would not necesarily keep costs down, much less help productivity. I think the ideal environment would be one that has roughly equal access to MS, Mac, and various *nix/bsd flavors as well as the software that is made for them. I would be spending most of my time in the *nix/bsd environment (as I already do), but one should not be mutually exclusive of the other.
yes
Absolutely, I agree. It also depends on the individual. I interened with the Windows division during WindowsXP development, and the interns that were there that summer got together a lot and went into Seattle, took weekend trips, went sailing, dancing, whatever, you name it. In fact, MS even would pay for some of those trips if 35 people or more were going, which was often the case!
yes, the MS internship is paid....quite well, actually.
err.....s/people would still be people/there would still be people/
/me makes note to self: click 'preview' button first....
bc
You missed the point. He wasn't saying that they could acheive "trustworthy computing" (a.k.a. unusable computing), he was saying that even if that were to happen people would still be people that dislike MS. bc
yeah, I have to agree. To draw from a previous argument about "guns don't kill, people do"...saying that oss developers are 'helping' the U.S. fight a war in Iraq is like holding Remington or Beretta or whomever responsible for the murders committed by people with guns of that make. Absurd.
Having said that, MS has a really good bug-tracking tool that they use internally that actually is similar to bugzilla (at least as far as I can tell). The volume of bugs that developers are required to fix before release is phenomenal, and believe it or not, MS standards for what has to be fixed is actually quite high, much higher than most open-source projects that come to mind (this doesn't mean I'm not an open-source fan --- I just wanted to point out a seldom discussed fact).
There's no need to try and send things only on the zeros. It's perfectly reasonable to try and modulate your signal directly onto the power sinusoid. Also, it seems to me you could get even more bandwidth on the 3-phase systems.
It's interesting that the MS SQL worm that went around today would be such a problem....considering that MS released a patch for the vulnerability it exploits back in July:d efault. asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-039.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/
What do the sysadmins *think* is going to happen if you don't pay attention to security bulletins from major vendors and 3rd party orgs?
It seems to me that this would be very easy to beat if the p2p clients out there would generate an md5 hash of the users' files. Maybe you could have it so that 'trusted' users (ones who have traded quality audio/video for a certain length of time (2-3 months?) upload their hashes to a server, and when you go to download a file, the client will check the hash against the server's copy.
Or something along those lines.
wasn't this posted about 2-3 months ago?
When are they going to finally understand that anything you can play can be copied, and anything you can't play won't make money??? Instead of every industry learning the hard way, they should all learn from Hollywood's example: initially, they fought VHS technology, but when they *finally* figured out that they could make money through rentals, they rolled with it and now make far more than they ever would have without VHS.
How can you not see this as a free speech issue? How can anyone tell me not to put something on my website without it being a free speech issue? As for me, I will be throwing caution to the wind and linking to whomever I want with impunity.
As a grad student, I'm suddenly inspired to get some people together and perform some similar "operations" and "hacks" (as they apparently call it at MIT).... Hack #1: saw Bevo's horns off (evil grin)
.com, .org, .net and .edu can be registered for from any country. It's not like the US is forcing sites located in other countries to use their tld's (as if we could). Also, the reason that it appears that the US has a 'monopoly' on those 4 domains is because the internet started here.