Unfortunately, mshtml.dll is a part of IE that is a component useable by C++ and.NET programs. That's the primary reason why IE can't just be removed.
To name a few programs that do use it: Valve's Steam content delivery system Norton Internet Security (preemptive "No one should use Norton any more, it's a piece of crap!") Everquest II basically anything that wants the capability of displaying webpages but doesn't want to integrate its own browser.
Either way, this is a bad move. Why couldn't Microsoft simply make a starter version of Windows by stripping out all eyecandy (no Aero), removing business accesories (no netmeeting, no remote desktop etc.) ? That'd stop this from competing head on with the regular windows.
I have the perfect name for this theoretical edition: "Home Basic."
The other problem with.NET is that it's written with the Win32 API in mind. This makes it easy to write the.NET VM for Windows, but when you go to write the VM for other OSes, it's a PITA.
Lord, help me, sometimes even I don't know why. I keep all my drivers up to date, but I still get BSOD's a couple times a month.
Your computer must really have problems with Windows. It sounds like you have more BSODs a month than I've had total since I first started using Windows XP as my main OS back in 2002.*
* I found relatively quickly not to try loading large soundfonts into my SBLive, as Creative's drivers would cause a blue screen for Soundfonts >= 128MB on Windows 2000/XP. I don't know if they fixed that problem, as I stopped using it shortly afterwards.
1993 also marked the first release of the Mosaic web browser and the mainstream introduction of the World Wide Web. Of course, Mosaic was eclipsed by Netscape Navigator the very next year, made by the same people who developed Mosaic.
The real issue is that it's about time to decouple app code and UI code. Why should our "command area," e.g. menu bar vs ribbon vs keyboard vs voice etc., be solely dictated by the apps we use?
In order to standardize the UI for training reasons. Just because/.s audience is tech-savvy doesn't mean that everyone is.
Strangely, this is also the largest complaint about Office 2007: Microsoft moved everything and now no one can find anything.
Microsoft's inclusion of Internet Explorer with Windows is not an anti-trust matter.
Yeah, that's why the US already convicted them of antitrust abuse for doing it genius.
Based on my understanding of how courts worked, an overturned conviction means that the conviction is null and void.
Thus, Microsoft isn't a convicted monopolist because the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals decided that they weren't; the DoJ decided in the retrial to settle out of court, thus not getting another conviction.
While its distribution with Windows is part of that, the fact that when IE started being distributed with Windows, its only major competitor was the suck-fest named Netscape Communicator 4...
I used Netscape Navigator from version 1.0N through version 4.73... and it was simply inferior to Internet Explorer 4 (and 5). Netscape decided they knew better than the w3c and started implementing proprietary tags, like layer, rather than use the industry standard div tag with CSS. Netscape also wouldn't allow Javascript to modify elements already written the page, except for layer tags. In other words, unlike IE, it had very little DOM manipulation, something that we take for granted today.
Disclaimer: My main browser is currently Firefox 3, although I've used IE4-6.x, Firefox 0.9-2.x, and Opera 8.5x-9.2x as my primary browsers in the past.
It's not that we love piracy, it's just that we understand the reasons behind it. sycraft-fu breaks the reasons down into groups in an earlier comment.
This is what I look for in games: All: If a game is by a company with a good track record (Blizzard, Nintendo) or is a game in a series I like, I may buy it regardless of price. This is extremely rare for the $61+ category. $61+: Sorry, not buying this game. Lower the price first. $41-60: A game had better be a stellar game with highly rated reviews. $21-40: A game should have fairly good reviews. $11-20: If the game has an interesting concept, I may buy it. I may or may not check reviews first. $1-10: I may impulse buy it if it even sounds remotely interesting.
Needless to say, my standards go down as the price goes down.
I'm also more likely to pirate games that you can't find at retail any more. Before anyone asks, I consider games on Steam to be retail.
You'll never see an adblock plugin for Chrome from Google themselves. As a company that runs two of the largest ad networks on the Internet (Doubleclick and Google Adsense), they won't even consider it.
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OK, maybe I don't understand ZeroConf... what does it offer that DHCP doesn't?
This is particularly interesting when you realize that Paul Allen was originally the driving force behind Microsoft before it was a monopoly...
No, JAVA was the original name of C#. ;)
Except that politicians make laws, not lawyers. I seriously doubt all politicians are lawyers.
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Unfortunately, mshtml.dll is a part of IE that is a component useable by C++ and .NET programs. That's the primary reason why IE can't just be removed.
To name a few programs that do use it:
Valve's Steam content delivery system
Norton Internet Security (preemptive "No one should use Norton any more, it's a piece of crap!")
Everquest II
basically anything that wants the capability of displaying webpages but doesn't want to integrate its own browser.
I have the perfect name for this theoretical edition: "Home Basic."
The other problem with .NET is that it's written with the Win32 API in mind. This makes it easy to write the .NET VM for Windows, but when you go to write the VM for other OSes, it's a PITA.
AMD should have just had their Scouts run in and steal it.
P.S. Is Intel RED or BLU?
Wait, Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 are still alpha? I knew 9.04 is, but 9.04 isn't the only version in this benchmark.
Your computer must really have problems with Windows. It sounds like you have more BSODs a month than I've had total since I first started using Windows XP as my main OS back in 2002.*
* I found relatively quickly not to try loading large soundfonts into my SBLive, as Creative's drivers would cause a blue screen for Soundfonts >= 128MB on Windows 2000/XP. I don't know if they fixed that problem, as I stopped using it shortly afterwards.
Only Vista Ultimate contains the 64-bit version in the box. The other editions require you to send away for a 64-bit DVD.
(Reference: Last paragraph of this page)
The difference being that people actually seem to like the changes made to Windows 7.
1993 also marked the first release of the Mosaic web browser and the mainstream introduction of the World Wide Web. Of course, Mosaic was eclipsed by Netscape Navigator the very next year, made by the same people who developed Mosaic.
Maybe we could just create a standard and get everyone to agree to it. We could call it the Linux Standard Base!
In order to standardize the UI for training reasons. Just because /.s audience is tech-savvy doesn't mean that everyone is.
Strangely, this is also the largest complaint about Office 2007: Microsoft moved everything and now no one can find anything.
Based on my understanding of how courts worked, an overturned conviction means that the conviction is null and void.
Thus, Microsoft isn't a convicted monopolist because the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals decided that they weren't; the DoJ decided in the retrial to settle out of court, thus not getting another conviction.
While its distribution with Windows is part of that, the fact that when IE started being distributed with Windows, its only major competitor was the suck-fest named Netscape Communicator 4...
I used Netscape Navigator from version 1.0N through version 4.73... and it was simply inferior to Internet Explorer 4 (and 5). Netscape decided they knew better than the w3c and started implementing proprietary tags, like layer, rather than use the industry standard div tag with CSS. Netscape also wouldn't allow Javascript to modify elements already written the page, except for layer tags. In other words, unlike IE, it had very little DOM manipulation, something that we take for granted today.
Disclaimer: My main browser is currently Firefox 3, although I've used IE4-6.x, Firefox 0.9-2.x, and Opera 8.5x-9.2x as my primary browsers in the past.
Are you counting browsers based on each other as separate for this count?
I was thinking there were more than 5 people that pay for FTP clients.
It's not that we love piracy, it's just that we understand the reasons behind it. sycraft-fu breaks the reasons down into groups in an earlier comment.
This is what I look for in games:
All: If a game is by a company with a good track record (Blizzard, Nintendo) or is a game in a series I like, I may buy it regardless of price. This is extremely rare for the $61+ category.
$61+: Sorry, not buying this game. Lower the price first.
$41-60: A game had better be a stellar game with highly rated reviews.
$21-40: A game should have fairly good reviews.
$11-20: If the game has an interesting concept, I may buy it. I may or may not check reviews first.
$1-10: I may impulse buy it if it even sounds remotely interesting.
Needless to say, my standards go down as the price goes down.
I'm also more likely to pirate games that you can't find at retail any more. Before anyone asks, I consider games on Steam to be retail.
You'll never see an adblock plugin for Chrome from Google themselves. As a company that runs two of the largest ad networks on the Internet (Doubleclick and Google Adsense), they won't even consider it.
I take it you looked at the 32-bit version? The 64-bit version is 3.15GB.
You could just grab the ISO file directly:
32-bit
64-bit
Yup, because things like a higher RAM limit and more general registers wouldn't improve performance!