This is the part that scares me most. The idea that someday I may not be able to backup my CDs or DVDs, due to Windows blocking that action, troubles me. The U.S. Supreme Court has declared every user has the right to make a backup, and they even have a right to record live programs (time-delayed viewing). Who is Microsoft (or RIAA/MPAA) to overrule the supreme court and say "nope; not allowed".
The Court system, not Microsoft, has also upheld that the DMCA prevents a person/company from manufacturing, selling, or importing software that can rip protected DVDs (and in theory, protected CDs). See: Universal City Studios v. Real Networks.
The only real reason this isn't a big issues with CDs is the action Philips has taken against companies that attempt to copy protect CDs.
That works both ways. After using a Mac at home, Linux at work and on my netbook, and even an iTouch, Windows has the most constricted, barely-functional desktop around. Most of the software I want to use works poorly, if it all, and you have to buy or download sketchy utilities to do the most trivial things.
I've tried using Windows before, but it's just so lacking in software and basic usability when compared to KDE or OS X (or even the iTouch) that I've never been able to stick with it very long.
Rather than dealing in generalities, want to name some specifics?
Maybe if you're married & have children you shouldn't be looking at porn, then you wouldn't have that problem...
Wrong. Maybe you just need a wife and children who are into porn as well. Having a healthy sex drive is not a fault.
There, fixed that for you.
How come everytime sex is mentioned someone comes along and starts crying "oh, the poor children"? Since when did it become a crime to continue to have sex once you have a child? Is this turning into China where you are only allowed a single child and it better be male? There are such things as locked doors and children do sleep and go to school, there are times parents can spend alone. Spread your fear facism somewhere else - most at/. have much higher intellectual capacities than your average joe and don't buy into your rhetoric. I'm sure I'll be trolled away, but you, my sir, should be trolled as well with comments like that.
You apparently need a reminder of what the topic was: "Fear of Porn URL Exposure Discourages Firefox 3 Upgrade."
Note: I had to modify the indent levels, as/. doesn't let you go more than 3 deep with blockquotes.
However, I imagines it boils down to: "Hey Microsoft, you should use your competitors blacklist in addition to your own!"
Key word there being competitors.
Hey, you know what, they should make the IE search box default to searching both Bing and Google! They should make Live Messenger support both MSN and Google Talk! They should make Microsoft Office include both Word and Google Docs!
Oh, even better, Mozilla should make Firefox render pages in both Gecko and Trident (at the same time, mind you)! Thunderbird should support its own mailboxes and Outlook (if it's installed).
I'm pretty sure the TF2 stats page on a Steam community profile show the same list of highest scores and stuff that are shown on the game's loading screen. I can't check it from here at work.
Unfortunately, like I mentioned earlier, it only shows the highest for a limited set of categories.
I know Steam collects more stats than this, as they aggregate them into the main TF2 stats.
First, Microsoft doesn't "do it". Without specific drivers provided by the OEM, the power-save functionality doesn't work well on Win either. The fact that all OEMs provide these is simply a matter of scale, Windows is 90% of the market, after all.
Yes, Linux not being as power efficient as other OSes doesn't have anything to do with Linus Torvalds thinking things like ACPI are "a complete design disaster in every way."
1. Botnet operator would send out spam advertising a product on a legitimate site, such as Amazon. 2. Credit Card companies know Amazon is a legit site and would continue to do business with them. 3. ??? 4. Profit!...er... law overturned!
I can see you saying many people never played Sure Thing I and Same Game Again I, but Cash Cow I (AKA StarCraft) had a huge following.
Also, Sure Thing I really depends on if that means World of Warcraft original (since the third expansion would be the "fourth" game) or Warcraft 1 (since World of Warcraft is the fourth Warcraft game).
Let's see your math on that. The average Windows update costs what? $150-250? OSX is $130 2x-3x as often?
Yes, let's.
Purchasing every version of OS X at full retail, from 10.0 to 10.6, costs $674. Purchasing every version of Windows costs at least $450, and that assumes buying the Home version, either OEM or upgrade not retail. Buying retail, or buying Home Premium or Professional, you exceed the total cost of every Windows upgrade. If you purchase Ultimate retail (which is what you get with OS X), you exceed $1,000!
And *that's* using your misrepresentation of what I said. I said that OS X is cheaper than Windows. OS X is $129 full retail. Even Windows Home Basic costs more than that. You have to go all the way down to Windows Home Basic OEM before the price drops below the price of OS X.
Why would you be buying the non-upgrade version of Windows in the first place? If you buy a computer in the store, it's certainly going to come with Windows on it. If you build your own computer, you should be buying the System Builders (AKA OEM) version of Windows, as that's the intended market for it.
The upgrade price for Windows 7 Home Premium actually is cheaper than OSX, as it's only $119.99.
The ONLY difference between buying a full retail copy versus an upgrade copy is that the upgrade copy invalidates your old key.
"Purchasing every version of OS X at full retail, from 10.0 to 10.6" is also a strawman, as 10.0 and 10.6 won't run on the same computer: 10.0-10.3 are Power PC only. 10.6 is Intel only.
The real complaint is that they discountinue supporting their system too quickly. The issue is once apple releases a new version support for the old one drops off VERY quickly. Lots of new Software won't run on the older version because many apple dev's (including Apple - e.g. ilife, itunes...) only support the latest release. And patches for previous version stop coming out much faster.
Apple released a security update for Tiger as recently as this month.
Windows Live Movie Maker doesn't run on XP. DirectX 10 isn't supported on XP. This is just the previous version of Windows. If you're going to complain that Apple drops support for some programs and technologies from the prior version, you've got to fault MS for the same.
Yup, and it's going to burn Microsoft. Very few development studios are building DirectX 10 (or 11)-only products because of this.
Everyone else continues making software that will run on Windows XP.
Microsoft likes to update rarely. This results in them having horrifically outdated products like Windows XP, while apple has Mac OS X 10.4. Internet Explorer 6, while firefox has 2.0 out, and apple has safari 3 out, etc.
That list of web browsers is, to put it nicely, wrong.
Browser release dates: Internet Explorer 7: 2006 October 18 (Windows) Firefox 2.0: 2006 October 24 (multi-platform), 2007 October 18 (OS X 10.5) Safari 3: 2007 October 26 (OS X), 2008 March 18 (Windows)
Yes, that's right, the first Safari 3 "stable" release was a full YEAR after Firefox 2 was released, even on the Mac. Oh, and IE7 was out before Firefox 2 by just over a week.
If I was still using the Mac OS that I had in 2002, it would essentially be unusable.
But you just said you were being charged for "service packs"--clearly that's not the case, then, since so much has changed in the intermediate versions that software is no longer always compatible.
What you're really complaining about is stagnation on the Windows side--you didn't upgrade because the turd they shipped after four years didn't change anything.
Incidentally, try finding software for Windows that doesn't say it requires Windows XP SP1 or newer (or for newer software XP SP2 or newer).
Even Windows service packs change the OS internals enough so that old software won't run on it. For example, iTunes 32-bit for Windows requires "Windows XP Service Pack 2 or later, or 32-bit editions of Windows Vista."
First, you seem to have used the wrong price for the upgrade from XP Pro to Vista Business. The MSRP is (and always has been) $199.99 on the upgrade copy.
Paid upgrades (list prices) Mac 2001 Mac OS X 10.1 $129 2002 Mac OS X 10.2 $129 (Address Book, iChat) 2003 Mac OS X 10.3 $129 (Expose, Filevault) 2004 Mac OS X 10.4 $129 (Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator) 2007 Mac OS X 10.5 $129 (Time Machine, Spaces, Boot Camp) 2009 Mac OS X 10.6 $29
Total: $674
----- Windows 2001 Windows XP Pro $299.99 2007 Windows Vista Business Upgrade $199.99 2009 Windows 7 Pro Upgrade $199.99
Total $599.97
Second, your list is misleading for two reasons 1. No computer that could run 10.1 can install 10.6. 10.6 is Intel only. Because of how long XP lasted, due to its service packs updating it to run on modern hardware, a Windows XP machine running Windows 7 is not a stretch. 2. You don't attach a price to Mac at the top, but you do to Windows XP Pro. If I buy a new machine from a major PC manufacturer, it's nearly 100% guaranteed to have a version of Windows on it.
This isn't even addressing Microsoft's propensity to hide features it doesn't think consumers would want, such as the Shadow Copy/Previous Versions function. I'm mentioning it here, because the versions of Windows you priced support it.
It's not yet clear whether the old version of the damaged zones will still be around in some form, but look for an explanation in the next few days.
Really? The FAQ over on the Cataclysm page is quite clear about this:
Will I need the expansion to be able to experience the Cataclysm changes?
When the Cataclysm occurs, it will occur for all players, whether they have purchased the expansion or not--you will no longer be to play in the original version of Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms. However, certain features such as the new zones, new races, and new level cap will only be accessible to players who purchase the expansion.
I could understand why Microsoft would price stuff like that (US being MS's home market, it can get them here cheaper), but since Sony is a Japanese company...
Maybe it's because the US economy sucks and no one can afford expensive things here. Either that or they're trying to undercut the Xbox 360 Pro/Elite model or something.
Seriously, mods, please check to see if stuff like this is real by checking out sources before modding posts up.
[notability] Wikipedia fails notability requirements for articles about Wikipedia, because it violates the following:
"'Sources,' for notability purposes, should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability."
"'Independent of the subject' excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc."
And don't get me started about articles about Wikipedia that are actually ON Wikipedia. While they do cite secondary sources there, those secondary sources are almost all a regurgitation of people who work for Wikipedia itself. It's like a newspaper printing an article about how great General Motors cars are because the GM CEO said they were great.
If every single PC user of Team Fortress 2 was already part of an online 'e-tail' content delivery system with their credit cards hooked up to it, etc, then it would be much, much more likely that they try to release it only on that delivery method. As it is, that is really only found on consoles.
So, there you have it?
Sllow me introduce you to Steam, Valve's content delivery system that every Team Fortress 2 player has installed.
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The Court system, not Microsoft, has also upheld that the DMCA prevents a person/company from manufacturing, selling, or importing software that can rip protected DVDs (and in theory, protected CDs). See: Universal City Studios v. Real Networks.
The only real reason this isn't a big issues with CDs is the action Philips has taken against companies that attempt to copy protect CDs.
Rather than dealing in generalities, want to name some specifics?
You apparently need a reminder of what the topic was: "Fear of Porn URL Exposure Discourages Firefox 3 Upgrade."
Note: I had to modify the indent levels, as /. doesn't let you go more than 3 deep with blockquotes.
GNU SASL doesn't have much of a choice as some of the libraries it has dependencies on require GPLv3 (even if they are weak dependencies).
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However, I imagines it boils down to:
"Hey Microsoft, you should use your competitors blacklist in addition to your own!"
Key word there being competitors.
Hey, you know what, they should make the IE search box default to searching both Bing and Google! They should make Live Messenger support both MSN and Google Talk! They should make Microsoft Office include both Word and Google Docs!
Oh, even better, Mozilla should make Firefox render pages in both Gecko and Trident (at the same time, mind you)! Thunderbird should support its own mailboxes and Outlook (if it's installed).
Do I need to continue beating this dead horse?
I'm pretty sure the TF2 stats page on a Steam community profile show the same list of highest scores and stuff that are shown on the game's loading screen. I can't check it from here at work.
Unfortunately, like I mentioned earlier, it only shows the highest for a limited set of categories.
I know Steam collects more stats than this, as they aggregate them into the main TF2 stats.
It's defined in assault_and_battery.h
Oh, you meant where in make xconfig is it?
Yes, Linux not being as power efficient as other OSes doesn't have anything to do with Linus Torvalds thinking things like ACPI are "a complete design disaster in every way."
The ACPI specification is available to anyone.
Lets see how this would work if put into law:
1. Botnet operator would send out spam advertising a product on a legitimate site, such as Amazon. ...er... law overturned!
2. Credit Card companies know Amazon is a legit site and would continue to do business with them.
3. ???
4. Profit!
Alliance players don't see Horde Barrens chat... :P
Steam doesn't have Stat tracking?
Well, OK, it does but only to some extent. You can see this in Team Fortress 2, where it keeps track of specific stats, but usually only the top ones.
I can see you saying many people never played Sure Thing I and Same Game Again I, but Cash Cow I (AKA StarCraft) had a huge following.
Also, Sure Thing I really depends on if that means World of Warcraft original (since the third expansion would be the "fourth" game) or Warcraft 1 (since World of Warcraft is the fourth Warcraft game).
I guess the Mac Mini is just a figment of my imagination, then?
Why would you be buying the non-upgrade version of Windows in the first place? If you buy a computer in the store, it's certainly going to come with Windows on it. If you build your own computer, you should be buying the System Builders (AKA OEM) version of Windows, as that's the intended market for it.
The upgrade price for Windows 7 Home Premium actually is cheaper than OSX, as it's only $119.99.
The ONLY difference between buying a full retail copy versus an upgrade copy is that the upgrade copy invalidates your old key.
"Purchasing every version of OS X at full retail, from 10.0 to 10.6" is also a strawman, as 10.0 and 10.6 won't run on the same computer: 10.0-10.3 are Power PC only. 10.6 is Intel only.
Yup, and it's going to burn Microsoft. Very few development studios are building DirectX 10 (or 11)-only products because of this.
Everyone else continues making software that will run on Windows XP.
That list of web browsers is, to put it nicely, wrong.
Browser release dates:
Internet Explorer 7: 2006 October 18 (Windows)
Firefox 2.0: 2006 October 24 (multi-platform), 2007 October 18 (OS X 10.5)
Safari 3: 2007 October 26 (OS X), 2008 March 18 (Windows)
Yes, that's right, the first Safari 3 "stable" release was a full YEAR after Firefox 2 was released, even on the Mac. Oh, and IE7 was out before Firefox 2 by just over a week.
I specifically chose an Apple product to point out that even Apple's Windows products wouldn't work on the original release of Windows XP.
iTunes just happened to be the first one I checked.
Incidentally, try finding software for Windows that doesn't say it requires Windows XP SP1 or newer (or for newer software XP SP2 or newer).
Even Windows service packs change the OS internals enough so that old software won't run on it. For example, iTunes 32-bit for Windows requires "Windows XP Service Pack 2 or later, or 32-bit editions of Windows Vista."
First, you seem to have used the wrong price for the upgrade from XP Pro to Vista Business. The MSRP is (and always has been) $199.99 on the upgrade copy.
Paid upgrades (list prices)
Mac
2001 Mac OS X 10.1 $129
2002 Mac OS X 10.2 $129 (Address Book, iChat)
2003 Mac OS X 10.3 $129 (Expose, Filevault)
2004 Mac OS X 10.4 $129 (Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator)
2007 Mac OS X 10.5 $129 (Time Machine, Spaces, Boot Camp)
2009 Mac OS X 10.6 $29
Total: $674
-----
Windows
2001 Windows XP Pro $299.99
2007 Windows Vista Business Upgrade $199.99
2009 Windows 7 Pro Upgrade $199.99
Total $599.97
Second, your list is misleading for two reasons
1. No computer that could run 10.1 can install 10.6. 10.6 is Intel only. Because of how long XP lasted, due to its service packs updating it to run on modern hardware, a Windows XP machine running Windows 7 is not a stretch.
2. You don't attach a price to Mac at the top, but you do to Windows XP Pro. If I buy a new machine from a major PC manufacturer, it's nearly 100% guaranteed to have a version of Windows on it.
This isn't even addressing Microsoft's propensity to hide features it doesn't think consumers would want, such as the Shadow Copy/Previous Versions function. I'm mentioning it here, because the versions of Windows you priced support it.
Really? The FAQ over on the Cataclysm page is quite clear about this:
I could understand why Microsoft would price stuff like that (US being MS's home market, it can get them here cheaper), but since Sony is a Japanese company...
Maybe it's because the US economy sucks and no one can afford expensive things here. Either that or they're trying to undercut the Xbox 360 Pro/Elite model or something.
Like Smooth Criminal?
[notability]
Wikipedia fails notability requirements for articles about Wikipedia, because it violates the following:
And don't get me started about articles about Wikipedia that are actually ON Wikipedia. While they do cite secondary sources there, those secondary sources are almost all a regurgitation of people who work for Wikipedia itself. It's like a newspaper printing an article about how great General Motors cars are because the GM CEO said they were great.
Certainly you meant Jury in those two points.
Whoops, checked to make sure the link was right, but didn't check for typos after changing Let to Allow.
Sllow me introduce you to Steam, Valve's content delivery system that every Team Fortress 2 player has installed.