It's not like ZDnet is a bastion of quality journalism. This isn't the Ziff-Davis publishing of 15 years ago we're talking about.
But, what you've said is quite true. I have a 2009 Mac Pro that I threw a different video card in a while back, and it can still surprise the hell out of me with it's performance, now 4 years later. If you bought a good computer in the last 3 years, you don't need a new computer. If you bought a shit computer in the last 3 years, you've probably already bought a better computer, and you're still not going to be buying one in the next 3 unless you were stupid enough to buy another shit computer.
As with many things, you get what you pay for. There's a reason why there is $500 desktops and $2500 desktops, as well as everything between.
Knowing Microsoft, they'll probably release SP2 for Win7, which puts the "Modern" UI on top of it too, and then make SP2 a prerequisite for every security update that comes out after it.
They don't easily admit defeat, and are not a believer in quitting while they're behind.
That situation right there is why block-level dedup on your VMware storage is awesome. Oh, you want another server? I'll just spin up this template that is exactly the same as the other ones, which will de-dupe and the only data being written is what changes from every other server already on the host.
Yes, it doesn't save the additional CPU and memory of having yet another OS there, but it helps.
I know you're being a smartass, but if you want to watch something from the same production crew that did Apollo 13, but is more focused on the entire manned spaceflight program of the late 50s to early 70s, watch HBO's excellent From the Earth to the Moon.
They go beyond the usual tale of the actual spaceflight and have an episode about the engineers working on the lunar lander, spend a serious amount of time on Apollo 1, etc.
In addition to the actual usage during the flights, there were countless firings of the F1 motors at the rocket stands in various locations around the US for testing and thrust calculations. Those were not production, and early models probably either didn't work, or failed in a spectacular fashion.
The ones delivered to the NASA VAB, which Rocketdyne was confident enough to put 3 humans on top of and then push an ignition button, were.
In fact, one of the primary missions of Apollo 12 was to touch down very close to one of the Surveyor probes, so that they could retrieve equipment that had been exposed to cosmic radiation for a number of years, so it could be studied.
They ended up touching down 185m from Surveyor 3.
Not bad for 1969, after flying almost half a million kilometers to get there on less computing power than a modern day feature cellphone has.
More than that, while there is a troop imbalance across the DMZ, the DMZ itself has enough explosives strewn about to launch another Apollo mission to the moon.
South Korea, and the US Military stationed there, love landmines. They love them. They'd give them away with every Samsung and LG appliance sold if they could. It makes for one hell of an incentive to stay on your side of the fence.
I don't care. The company that produced Full Throttle should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want until they die a natural death decades from now.
However, enterprise customers have an expensive way out. They can pay a monthly fee to get "extended" support. Yes, the fee is ridiculously large in order to "incentivize" people to migrate forward.
I think it was somewhere in the upper 6-figures per month for my company.
The only thing I can think of more painful than supporting 80,000+ Windows 8 users would be supporting 80,000+ Windows 8 users that have some kind of unsupported hack deployed on their system that could break with the next patch from Microsoft.
Thanks, but no thanks. Our enterprise license agreement allows us N-1 licensing of OS versions from the sticker on the machine. We're good to ride out Windows 7.
Unfortunately, there will be some support for Win8 in business just because the Win8 tablets will actually be preferable to the the slip-shod Win7 convertible laptop piece of shit that we've all been living with since XP Tablet Edition.
The Win8 tile mess that they call a UI would also be interesting for line-of-business machines where the machine usually has a service account login and is incredibly locked down to begin with, but that would require ancient LoB apps to be updated to properly work with it, so that won't ever happen.
For average "knowledge workers" on regular desktops and laptops, Windows 8 is stillborn. It's a retraining nightmare with no ROI at the end of the road.
You admit that you are no IT professional; so as I am one that is currently involved in a project to migrate my company to Windows 7, I'll try to explain it:
You can upgrade one system to Windows 7 by jamming in a DVD and probably be fine, given that you are the administrator of your machine and can fix any prompt issues that may occur, install drivers to fix any issues that arise with those, and update any applications that are stubborn and don't want to run.
I cannot upgrade 80,000 systems at over 2,600 physical sites to Windows 7 by jamming in a DVD; it is a logistical impossibility. Also, there are multiple hardware platforms that need to be supported with drivers tracked down and laptop craplets that need to be installed. And hundreds of applications that will need updating. And hundreds of servers that will need updating to talk to those updated applications. And it all needs to be automated, and user data needs to be preserved by the automation.
And if systems are not fine, money is lost to users that cannot work, or customers that cannot complete their business due to business systems being unavailable.
Everything needs to be tested. This takes a significant amount of time and resources to complete. My team has been working all that out for the last 1.5 years, and we're currently 8,000+ systems into the Win7 migration which started in users' hands about 2 months ago. We now have 1 year to get the remaining 72,000+ systems going, with us opening the floodgates towards the end of this month. Offices, distribution warehouses, retail locations, etc.
If someone is handing out domain admin user privileges to make people admins on local domain member PCs, then they need to be fired for cause.
Anyone who has ever set up AD, or even an NT4 Domain knows that you can add groups to groups. So you add "Authenticated Users" to "Local Admins" on the machine - still a horrible practice, but it accomplishes what you're describing in an even lazier fashion than adding every user to the Domain Admins group because you don't have to add any user objects to anything.
If you're "doing it right" you don't do either of those, and you instead take a look at what permissions applications actually need to run, and adjust the ACLs accordingly.
And yet, Apple has never claimed that the iPad, or any surrounding ecosystem or walled garden, is in any way meant to fulfull the vision of Mr. Kay's Dynabook.
The whole damn Slashdot post is a troll. The interviewer asked a straw man question, Alan Kay then responded with a reasonable answer to the question, and then Slashdot posts that one question out of a much more wide-reaching interview as a massive troll to generate fanboy comment wars.
I see what you did there. Except he says that iPad "betrays" the Dynabook vision.
Nobody ever claimed that iPad was supposed to complete the Dynabook vision. In fact, you could likely scour the Internet for weeks and only find iPad and Dynabook mentioned together in this particular interview.
Dynabook is a vision. iPad is a shipping product. There is a massive difference between the two.
It only takes 20 years because of all the governmental permits, lawsuits and protests that delay the project. Implement a strict but reasonable inspection scheme for every step of the way, and without all the other bullshit it wouldn't take more than 5 years to first criticality.
Name one that also can be used for baseload generation that doesn't depend on variable environmental conditions that also doesn't result in massive ecological change.
The only reason Pixar exists is because he bought the computer animation division of Industrial Light and Magic from George Lucas, because Lucas was going through a particularly nasty divorce at the time and needed cash.
Without Jobs, they would have been dissolved and the guys at the core of Pixar would have moved on to being "just another guy" in some animation department that would not have been allowed to collaborate on the projects that really made them shine.
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It's not like ZDnet is a bastion of quality journalism. This isn't the Ziff-Davis publishing of 15 years ago we're talking about.
But, what you've said is quite true. I have a 2009 Mac Pro that I threw a different video card in a while back, and it can still surprise the hell out of me with it's performance, now 4 years later. If you bought a good computer in the last 3 years, you don't need a new computer. If you bought a shit computer in the last 3 years, you've probably already bought a better computer, and you're still not going to be buying one in the next 3 unless you were stupid enough to buy another shit computer.
As with many things, you get what you pay for. There's a reason why there is $500 desktops and $2500 desktops, as well as everything between.
All of our corporate laptops are ThinkPads, and they all have both a trackpad and the "cat tongue" in the keyboard.
Many people prefer one or the other, so we provide both.
Unfortunately, there's a Grand Canyon worth of a gap between "it works great on my one laptop" and "it works great on 60,000 supported corporate PCs."
This is why Windows 8 will fail until Microsoft gives everyone back the Start menu they are used to.
Knowing Microsoft, they'll probably release SP2 for Win7, which puts the "Modern" UI on top of it too, and then make SP2 a prerequisite for every security update that comes out after it.
They don't easily admit defeat, and are not a believer in quitting while they're behind.
That situation right there is why block-level dedup on your VMware storage is awesome. Oh, you want another server? I'll just spin up this template that is exactly the same as the other ones, which will de-dupe and the only data being written is what changes from every other server already on the host.
Yes, it doesn't save the additional CPU and memory of having yet another OS there, but it helps.
I know you're being a smartass, but if you want to watch something from the same production crew that did Apollo 13, but is more focused on the entire manned spaceflight program of the late 50s to early 70s, watch HBO's excellent From the Earth to the Moon.
They go beyond the usual tale of the actual spaceflight and have an episode about the engineers working on the lunar lander, spend a serious amount of time on Apollo 1, etc.
It's quite well done.
We did send robots to the moon before people. Then, we went there with people too.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveyor_Program
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_program
In addition to the actual usage during the flights, there were countless firings of the F1 motors at the rocket stands in various locations around the US for testing and thrust calculations. Those were not production, and early models probably either didn't work, or failed in a spectacular fashion.
The ones delivered to the NASA VAB, which Rocketdyne was confident enough to put 3 humans on top of and then push an ignition button, were.
In fact, one of the primary missions of Apollo 12 was to touch down very close to one of the Surveyor probes, so that they could retrieve equipment that had been exposed to cosmic radiation for a number of years, so it could be studied.
They ended up touching down 185m from Surveyor 3.
Not bad for 1969, after flying almost half a million kilometers to get there on less computing power than a modern day feature cellphone has.
More than that, while there is a troop imbalance across the DMZ, the DMZ itself has enough explosives strewn about to launch another Apollo mission to the moon.
South Korea, and the US Military stationed there, love landmines. They love them. They'd give them away with every Samsung and LG appliance sold if they could. It makes for one hell of an incentive to stay on your side of the fence.
And what Apple is doing here is different from a large bookstore chain not carrying something due to it's content, how?
Oh, because it's Apple, and this is Slashdot. That's how.
I don't care. The company that produced Full Throttle should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want until they die a natural death decades from now.
That game was just too awesome.
Yes, mainstream support is ending.
However, enterprise customers have an expensive way out. They can pay a monthly fee to get "extended" support. Yes, the fee is ridiculously large in order to "incentivize" people to migrate forward.
I think it was somewhere in the upper 6-figures per month for my company.
The only thing I can think of more painful than supporting 80,000+ Windows 8 users would be supporting 80,000+ Windows 8 users that have some kind of unsupported hack deployed on their system that could break with the next patch from Microsoft.
Thanks, but no thanks. Our enterprise license agreement allows us N-1 licensing of OS versions from the sticker on the machine. We're good to ride out Windows 7.
Unfortunately, there will be some support for Win8 in business just because the Win8 tablets will actually be preferable to the the slip-shod Win7 convertible laptop piece of shit that we've all been living with since XP Tablet Edition.
The Win8 tile mess that they call a UI would also be interesting for line-of-business machines where the machine usually has a service account login and is incredibly locked down to begin with, but that would require ancient LoB apps to be updated to properly work with it, so that won't ever happen.
For average "knowledge workers" on regular desktops and laptops, Windows 8 is stillborn. It's a retraining nightmare with no ROI at the end of the road.
You admit that you are no IT professional; so as I am one that is currently involved in a project to migrate my company to Windows 7, I'll try to explain it:
You can upgrade one system to Windows 7 by jamming in a DVD and probably be fine, given that you are the administrator of your machine and can fix any prompt issues that may occur, install drivers to fix any issues that arise with those, and update any applications that are stubborn and don't want to run.
I cannot upgrade 80,000 systems at over 2,600 physical sites to Windows 7 by jamming in a DVD; it is a logistical impossibility. Also, there are multiple hardware platforms that need to be supported with drivers tracked down and laptop craplets that need to be installed. And hundreds of applications that will need updating. And hundreds of servers that will need updating to talk to those updated applications. And it all needs to be automated, and user data needs to be preserved by the automation.
And if systems are not fine, money is lost to users that cannot work, or customers that cannot complete their business due to business systems being unavailable.
Everything needs to be tested. This takes a significant amount of time and resources to complete. My team has been working all that out for the last 1.5 years, and we're currently 8,000+ systems into the Win7 migration which started in users' hands about 2 months ago. We now have 1 year to get the remaining 72,000+ systems going, with us opening the floodgates towards the end of this month. Offices, distribution warehouses, retail locations, etc.
If someone is handing out domain admin user privileges to make people admins on local domain member PCs, then they need to be fired for cause.
Anyone who has ever set up AD, or even an NT4 Domain knows that you can add groups to groups. So you add "Authenticated Users" to "Local Admins" on the machine - still a horrible practice, but it accomplishes what you're describing in an even lazier fashion than adding every user to the Domain Admins group because you don't have to add any user objects to anything.
If you're "doing it right" you don't do either of those, and you instead take a look at what permissions applications actually need to run, and adjust the ACLs accordingly.
Did anyone ever claim that iOS or Windows Phone are Open Source, or are you just knocking the shit out of a straw man you just stood up?
And yet, Apple has never claimed that the iPad, or any surrounding ecosystem or walled garden, is in any way meant to fulfull the vision of Mr. Kay's Dynabook.
The whole damn Slashdot post is a troll. The interviewer asked a straw man question, Alan Kay then responded with a reasonable answer to the question, and then Slashdot posts that one question out of a much more wide-reaching interview as a massive troll to generate fanboy comment wars.
I see what you did there. Except he says that iPad "betrays" the Dynabook vision.
Nobody ever claimed that iPad was supposed to complete the Dynabook vision. In fact, you could likely scour the Internet for weeks and only find iPad and Dynabook mentioned together in this particular interview.
Dynabook is a vision. iPad is a shipping product. There is a massive difference between the two.
It only takes 20 years because of all the governmental permits, lawsuits and protests that delay the project. Implement a strict but reasonable inspection scheme for every step of the way, and without all the other bullshit it wouldn't take more than 5 years to first criticality.
Name one that also can be used for baseload generation that doesn't depend on variable environmental conditions that also doesn't result in massive ecological change.
Hint: there aren't any.
Creator of Linux to head Windows development. Har har har.
What's the next crap "joke", PETA to endorce the butchers' union? GET IT? IT'S IRONIC!
Did you stuff a bunch of interns in a room and "brainstorm" these? Truly uninspired, and lacking execution at every step.
No, but it would be a violation of the DMCA.
The only reason Pixar exists is because he bought the computer animation division of Industrial Light and Magic from George Lucas, because Lucas was going through a particularly nasty divorce at the time and needed cash.
Without Jobs, they would have been dissolved and the guys at the core of Pixar would have moved on to being "just another guy" in some animation department that would not have been allowed to collaborate on the projects that really made them shine.