Meh. If I respond with something other than a non-response, this is going to turn into an il-informed debate. I don't care enough to become informed, so I'm not going to bother.
Most people that would run a beta filesystem or a pre kernel can apply the damn patch. They know how, for the most part.
As for it's use in production systems, not many people are going to use 2.6.0, and I'm sure V4 will make it into 2.6.1. The wait will be what, like a month?
That's the only reason I'm reading the comments for this story.
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Fact of the matter is, most people using Linux, BSD or UNIX outside of the home will want and need the networking capabilities of XFree86. If you want Linux to be confined to home game machines, then go roll your own distro. But in the meantime a lot of us want the capabilities of XFree86.
It can be intergrated seamlessly. Your program can simply check for an environment variable like DIRECTFB when it starts up. Programs would use DirectFB at the console, and X otherwise.
Most stuff probably wouldn't have a DirectFB mode, because most stuff doesn't have a lot to gain. Browsers and video players do have a lot to gain, so they could use it when they detect that support is present.
The original poster was saying that PCI slots are plentiful... That's not true on those 1 slot boards, which makes that slot valuable, so we agree there.
A lot of the boards for more powerful processors are designed to be small, a lot of OEMs use these, and they're short on slots too. They usually have something in the neighberhood of 2-3 slots. You could be outa luck pretty quickly.
The 5 slot boards from the more powerful OEM computers and homebuild ones almost never run out, but that's as it should be.
I think this is a matter of users stocking up before the lawsuits start.
Oh well. I really don't think it can be stopped, because people want it. It can only be made inconveniant.
Besides, according to the Copyright Act (of Canada) I'm allowed to make copies of stuff for personal use. I can't share them, but my cable modem provider yells at me when I share anyway, so I don't.
Exactly... you need a PCI slot (preferably more than 33 mhz 32-bits). My point was that USB can't replace a lot of the stuff that PCI slots get used for.
IMO the whole thing's a shame. TMTA would have probably been a lot healthier if they would have offered a native VLIW chip in addition to the Crusoe, so that embedded people who didn't care about x86 compatibility could use this damn nice chip to provide real good, low power devices for markets such as set-top boxes, where x86 compatibility is a non-issue.
There is no doubt that it's a nice chip, but there is no shortage of nice chips out there for embeded uses...
I use SSL for e-mail. My ISP doesn't support SSL, but I have them autoforwarding to my university account that does.
At home, I rotate my WEP key daily by plugging in physically to the network, and mashing keys pseudo-randomly until they text field fills up. This is until I get IPSec working.
At school, wireless is all unencrypted. They have to support like every platform out there including older computers, so nothing more advanced is really an option. Using WEP with that much traffic would do nothing but give people a false sense of security.
"There's also one benchmark I'de love to see. Power Mac G5 vs Sun UltraSPARC III. It's fair: they're both 64-bit procs, and it would really make people look at it in businesses that only look at supercomputers as viable. Then maybe people would start giving Apple and IBM some credit."
And Opterons. Let's get some benchmarks against Opterons. A dual Opteron 24x might just cost as much as a dual G5.
Hey, they've revived the concept of nuclear powered aircraft. They're talking about a nuclear version of the predator UAV. Apparently it will use decay stimulated by x-rays rather than a critical mass, so it'll be contain substantial quantities of radioactive material even before it's switched on.
This thing will spend it's service life on or very near Earth, and when it's shot down, this is where the shit will land. Which has a higher risk, launching something once, or spending months at a time in combat areas for the next 10 years?
Of course, we apparently don't care because that'll happen in the Terrorist's (tm) back yard, not ours.
I figure it's part sales pitch, part costless expansion, part price war, part karma whoring, part advertising blitz, and part tech support outsourcing.
-People will get hooked on broadband. Some will get their own dedicated connections. The admins will upgrade their connections. You're assuming that two users on one connection will make that conenction twice as active, but I doubt that's true. Most people that don't already have broadband will be light users, at least until they get used to it.
-They'll get revenue from areas that they don't currently offer service, especially with enthusiasts setting up long range links.
-This will hit the competition, hard. The competition that's not using this scheme will have to compete in less efficient ways.
-If you've got people asking about service in a neighberhood, it's easier to get capital to expand there, and with all this karma whoring, everybody loves them.
-They'll get a giant grass roots advertising team, basically for free.
-They get a brand new tech support team, vastly more experienced than their first line guys. Even though it specifically says that some stuff is speakeasy's responsibility (e-mail, news, etc), the local admins will handle a LOT of simple configuration errors and stuff, since they need to screen problems for stuff that's their fault. With really trivial stuff, the local admins will probably fix it more often than not.
ALSO... If they start trying to lay last mile fiber or something, this could potentially make that a lot cheaper. They might need to run it to one house in 100. I think this is the primary reason, they can trial the infrastructure for sharing to make the investment smaller when they decide to do it. Once that happens, they'll be able to undercut everyone else.
Now that we don't need a new computer every few years, it's killed the upgrade cycle. Oh yeah, it starts out innocently enough. We want the source code and all that.
But then it actually starts making things cheaper and more cost effective, and all of a sudden people stop buying new things. I haven't bought a new computer since 2000!
We NEED software that's slower with every generation!
Getting everything I needed working on my Linux computer proved too time consuming (things like dual monitors... and sound), so I gave up and just set it up as a server. It's perfect, works flawlessly month after month. No Apple computer (with any OS) could possibly compete, because the new ones are bigtime overkill, and the used ones still cost too much.
On the other hand, as a desktop or laptop OS, Linux couldn't compete. I don't fancy spending another weekend trying to get dual monitors and sound to work, and that's not even getting into the crap that I need to connect to with my iBook. I lose a little power with MacOS, but it's nothing I can't get back by SSHing to my Linux box, and I gain plug and playability and a nicer GUI.
So, each has it's place, so I use both. As it should be. I'm a fan of Apple, but only because they can supplement my abilities. They can't do everything I want and even if they could they couldn't do it on my budget, so they're not the complete solution.:)
"Perhaps Linux will just show people there are other options than windows and as a result make Apple's popularity rise?"
Yes. I went to OS X via Linux. I need OpenBSD or Linux for some of my stuff, but they're not worth the effort as a desktop system. SSHing to them is just as good.
Getting anything non-trivial working on my Linux box takes at least an afternoon (If you can do better, that's fine. I can't.), and I just don't have to time to do that with everything I need on my primary computer.
Linux is great for all the back end stuff, on computers built from scrap or really powerful servers, but for desktop stuff, that's where you spend all your time, it's worth a few extra dollars for a really slick, low maintenance environment. There's basically only 2 environments where you can do almost anything in 5 minutes, and unless you want to use Windows, MacOS is the only alternative.
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That doesn't work if the aliens are traveling to other stars.
How can they be sure aliens will live close to a star?
Meh. If I respond with something other than a non-response, this is going to turn into an il-informed debate. I don't care enough to become informed, so I'm not going to bother.
Most people that would run a beta filesystem or a pre kernel can apply the damn patch. They know how, for the most part.
As for it's use in production systems, not many people are going to use 2.6.0, and I'm sure V4 will make it into 2.6.1. The wait will be what, like a month?
How is it different from what Slashdot does daily?
I love this. How many thousand requests can a spammer website take in a 5 second period?
That's the only reason I'm reading the comments for this story.
Fact of the matter is, most people using Linux, BSD or UNIX outside of the home will want and need the networking capabilities of XFree86. If you want Linux to be confined to home game machines, then go roll your own distro. But in the meantime a lot of us want the capabilities of XFree86.
It can be intergrated seamlessly. Your program can simply check for an environment variable like DIRECTFB when it starts up. Programs would use DirectFB at the console, and X otherwise.
Most stuff probably wouldn't have a DirectFB mode, because most stuff doesn't have a lot to gain. Browsers and video players do have a lot to gain, so they could use it when they detect that support is present.
The original poster was saying that PCI slots are plentiful... That's not true on those 1 slot boards, which makes that slot valuable, so we agree there.
A lot of the boards for more powerful processors are designed to be small, a lot of OEMs use these, and they're short on slots too. They usually have something in the neighberhood of 2-3 slots. You could be outa luck pretty quickly.
The 5 slot boards from the more powerful OEM computers and homebuild ones almost never run out, but that's as it should be.
I think this is a matter of users stocking up before the lawsuits start. Oh well. I really don't think it can be stopped, because people want it. It can only be made inconveniant. Besides, according to the Copyright Act (of Canada) I'm allowed to make copies of stuff for personal use. I can't share them, but my cable modem provider yells at me when I share anyway, so I don't.
Exactly... you need a PCI slot (preferably more than 33 mhz 32-bits). My point was that USB can't replace a lot of the stuff that PCI slots get used for.
To you maybe...
a) Some mobos have one PCI slot. I'd call that a scarce resource.
b) Would you like to use a USB gigabit ethernet interface? RAID card, SCSI card, second video card. There's tons of stuff that needs a free slot.
They're always important resources. Sometimes they aren't needed, but it's good when they're free.
IMO the whole thing's a shame. TMTA would have probably been a lot healthier if they would have offered a native VLIW chip in addition to the Crusoe, so that embedded people who didn't care about x86 compatibility could use this damn nice chip to provide real good, low power devices for markets such as set-top boxes, where x86 compatibility is a non-issue.
There is no doubt that it's a nice chip, but there is no shortage of nice chips out there for embeded uses...
The way judges are being chosen these days it'll never get that far.
I use SSL for e-mail. My ISP doesn't support SSL, but I have them autoforwarding to my university account that does.
At home, I rotate my WEP key daily by plugging in physically to the network, and mashing keys pseudo-randomly until they text field fills up. This is until I get IPSec working.
At school, wireless is all unencrypted. They have to support like every platform out there including older computers, so nothing more advanced is really an option. Using WEP with that much traffic would do nothing but give people a false sense of security.
That's where SSL and SSH come in.
10.2.7 is a special version designed to run on G5 processors.
"There's also one benchmark I'de love to see. Power Mac G5 vs Sun UltraSPARC III. It's fair: they're both 64-bit procs, and it would really make people look at it in businesses that only look at supercomputers as viable. Then maybe people would start giving Apple and IBM some credit."
And Opterons. Let's get some benchmarks against Opterons. A dual Opteron 24x might just cost as much as a dual G5.
Hey, they've revived the concept of nuclear powered aircraft. They're talking about a nuclear version of the predator UAV. Apparently it will use decay stimulated by x-rays rather than a critical mass, so it'll be contain substantial quantities of radioactive material even before it's switched on.
This thing will spend it's service life on or very near Earth, and when it's shot down, this is where the shit will land. Which has a higher risk, launching something once, or spending months at a time in combat areas for the next 10 years?
Of course, we apparently don't care because that'll happen in the Terrorist's (tm) back yard, not ours.
The U of C uses Mozilla as a standard, since it works on all (most?) of the platforms found on campus. They also support IE, but Mozilla is preffered.
I figure it's part sales pitch, part costless expansion, part price war, part karma whoring, part advertising blitz, and part tech support outsourcing.
-People will get hooked on broadband. Some will get their own dedicated connections. The admins will upgrade their connections. You're assuming that two users on one connection will make that conenction twice as active, but I doubt that's true. Most people that don't already have broadband will be light users, at least until they get used to it.
-They'll get revenue from areas that they don't currently offer service, especially with enthusiasts setting up long range links.
-This will hit the competition, hard. The competition that's not using this scheme will have to compete in less efficient ways.
-If you've got people asking about service in a neighberhood, it's easier to get capital to expand there, and with all this karma whoring, everybody loves them.
-They'll get a giant grass roots advertising team, basically for free.
-They get a brand new tech support team, vastly more experienced than their first line guys. Even though it specifically says that some stuff is speakeasy's responsibility (e-mail, news, etc), the local admins will handle a LOT of simple configuration errors and stuff, since they need to screen problems for stuff that's their fault. With really trivial stuff, the local admins will probably fix it more often than not.
ALSO... If they start trying to lay last mile fiber or something, this could potentially make that a lot cheaper. They might need to run it to one house in 100. I think this is the primary reason, they can trial the infrastructure for sharing to make the investment smaller when they decide to do it. Once that happens, they'll be able to undercut everyone else.
I was shooting for "funny", not "insightful".
Now that we don't need a new computer every few years, it's killed the upgrade cycle. Oh yeah, it starts out innocently enough. We want the source code and all that.
But then it actually starts making things cheaper and more cost effective, and all of a sudden people stop buying new things. I haven't bought a new computer since 2000!
We NEED software that's slower with every generation!
Getting everything I needed working on my Linux computer proved too time consuming (things like dual monitors... and sound), so I gave up and just set it up as a server. It's perfect, works flawlessly month after month. No Apple computer (with any OS) could possibly compete, because the new ones are bigtime overkill, and the used ones still cost too much.
:)
On the other hand, as a desktop or laptop OS, Linux couldn't compete. I don't fancy spending another weekend trying to get dual monitors and sound to work, and that's not even getting into the crap that I need to connect to with my iBook. I lose a little power with MacOS, but it's nothing I can't get back by SSHing to my Linux box, and I gain plug and playability and a nicer GUI.
So, each has it's place, so I use both. As it should be. I'm a fan of Apple, but only because they can supplement my abilities. They can't do everything I want and even if they could they couldn't do it on my budget, so they're not the complete solution.
"Perhaps Linux will just show people there are other options than windows and as a result make Apple's popularity rise?"
Yes. I went to OS X via Linux. I need OpenBSD or Linux for some of my stuff, but they're not worth the effort as a desktop system. SSHing to them is just as good.
Getting anything non-trivial working on my Linux box takes at least an afternoon (If you can do better, that's fine. I can't.), and I just don't have to time to do that with everything I need on my primary computer.
Linux is great for all the back end stuff, on computers built from scrap or really powerful servers, but for desktop stuff, that's where you spend all your time, it's worth a few extra dollars for a really slick, low maintenance environment. There's basically only 2 environments where you can do almost anything in 5 minutes, and unless you want to use Windows, MacOS is the only alternative.