So if evolution was created by god, who created god then?
Wait - you get to throw up your hands and say "It was the Big Bang" and it is OK, yet when I do it it is not? The current theory says that matter did not exist before the Big Bang, yet that is OK, and God existing before then is not OK. If you want to clean house about fairy-stories start in your own house.
Really? Do tell me how you put in that XP disk and "It (just) worked" I am all ears on how you managed to get it to install itself without drivers for a SATA drive. But do go on, I looooove to learn new things.
About your sig. FWIW I have had Steven Brust cook me dinner - he is better than a good cook. He is also happens to be a most excellent Football referee.
I agree, I do however think they have got a bit more sensationalist - but I think that is more experience in Slashdot and in the field of CS and knowledge of the subject matter then what is really meant to be there. So my issue not Slashdot's. Slashdot is a wonder of info for anyone seeking technical knowledge. Just learn to avoid the obvious flame pits of religion, politics and dichotomy wars (vi/emacs, gnome/KDE, etc.) - oh and learn to read a troll for what it is rather than it being a different position and you will be fine. The amount of sheer knowledge and experience here in many fields is an awesome thing to draw upon.
and proceeded to take photos of their numberplates (without permission, one presumes)
You mean he took pictures of a car parked on public property? Next thing you know he is going to take pictures of cars near the Lincoln Memorial and then ones parked near the Grand Canyon. Heavens! Someone might be snapping a pic of a car near you right now! Saying he had guns in sight is like saying he had headlights. They were in a rack in the truck. The fact that the nerds got freaked out is their issue.
but I definitely won't miss having to explain those two apparent oxymorons to new players
Huh? I guess I dont get it, Robin Hood=CG Machiavelli=LE
CG=The end justifies the means LE=The means justify the end.
All you have now is a continuum from Law to Chaos with Law being Good. I hate to be political but isn't that what half the issues in this country are about? Law=Good?
Any seasoned optimizer will tell you that diplomacy builds are a joke
And any 'seasoned' Role Player would tell you "Ish" If you want to build a Magic the Gathering (of money) deck go right ahead, just don't call in an RPG.
Don't buy it if you don't like it, but why get upset that it exists?
Meh, I guess I will try to explain, and in Slashdot fashion I will use a car analogy.
Imagine you are a grease monkey. You know, you are the person that loves to get under the hood and really tinker around. You own 20+ cars and even an engine block or two extra. You are sitting around one day thinking about picking up that old '69 Ford F-100 with three on the tree when a buddy stops by and tells you the news. Detroit is going all metric. Huh? Metric? Really? Now sure you still have all those old engines to play with but at the same time some of the new stuff is pretty cool. And with your current tools you can approximate metric for anything new, but it is a huge pain in the ass and for no real gain. Sure you can retool and outfit your kit again, but really who needs the pain? All of Detroit's effort is now going away from you and your passion. Sure they still make cars, and they always will, but now they are all metric - and built for hauling soccer moms. Gone are the muscle cars and the trucks. So you can't even pick up a book and get ideas for your truck based work.
To take this back out of analogy land I can say that in my campaigns people begged to play clerics because my house rules made them more than walking hospitals. 4th ed makes them nothing more then glorified fighters and IMHO actually exacerbates he problem of playing them rather then helping. Paladins heal better now, welcome to the new walking hospital.
The Cleric is no longer a required party member, as everyone can self heal.
Lets rephrase that: "They completely gutted the cleric to the point where one asks why play one?" Paladins are better healers now. In my campaigns, because of house rules, I had to keep parties from being 100% clerics. In a group of seven players I once had 4 clerics. It was easy to make them that interesting to play and I never understood the hate players (and DMs) had for the class. 3rd ed was way too influenced by Magic the Gathering (of money) and 4th is way too influenced by WoW. 4th edition may be a good game - it isn't Dungeons and Dragons, but it may be a good game.
Why in the world would you need to reboot anything? - that is Windows thinking. If you charted my uptime you would see that it correllates perfectly with power outages in my neighborhood. That counts for work as well. Whenm they finally slap the generator in at work this summer I expect hardware failure to be the only reason for downtime. Also your machines in linux land should be auto patching themselves without your intervention save for the odd bit of software you may have bought - but that is easily scriptable.
What I see is that your 10 minute procedure takes me under a minute to fire off a script in Linux land. Also a lot of what you presented earlier is does not have to be done done in AD - branding with screen saver, fire wall rules, security level based on OU, shares etc. A couple of Ghost-type images and set it all when you roll them out. Need a firewall change? Egads set up a 5 machine bank to learn how to script it, I dont think it would be more than a five lines of script if you don't count #!/bin/bash. Not to flame you, but it really isn't that difficult. For what little I have ever messed with AD and GP - I have the opposite sentiment that you do;)
You can't do that - you cant be "kinda pregnant", "sorta a virgin" or "technically agnostic". Hate to tell you but you either are an Atheist or you are not. There is no in-between. It is that easy. A(not)Theist(believing in a God). The moment you try to drop conditions in there you foul the water. Santa is disprovable (though if you do it in front of my children I will hurt you - that is very provable) You are not technically agnostic - you *are* Agnostic.
It tells me that He has doubt. And as he faces Eternity at the moment of his death he will beg for life. At that moment, he will pray to anyone, even to Wotan, Zeus, Raven, Isis, Lodg, even Satan Himself. He may be a great scientist, but he is a lousy Atheist. Considering that the zombies he has inspired carry his books like Jehovah's Witness's and call themselves atheists in his wake then perhaps he should clarify his position - but that would cut into his profits wouldn't it? I stand by my position. Dawkins is as much a fraud as Jimmy Baker, Swaggert, The Amazing Randi and your corner card shark. I have no issues with Atheism, do what you will ('shall be the Whole of the Law') But the religion of Dawkins needs to stop.
Very insightful - but notice an oddity to you second thing - look at the 17th stroke of the 5th line of the fist part. It is positively wedge shaped at the bottom, several others though the piece bear the same mark. For the life of me I cannot fiure out how any wring utensil short of a odd calligraphy pen could ever pull that of - except for a hand sharpened pencil. Also the general grittness of the lines make me think pencil over rough paper.
I had sort of wondered the same thing. The only thing I have to add is I wonder if the line position has anything to do with it - imagine printing an empty scale on op of each line. I suppose it is not drawn well enough to tell really,
I recently finished my first Mieville - Un Lun Dun, my God what a good book, one of the best things I have ever read. I honestly can't recommend it enough. And to think the guy has a PhD in Economics, the two halves of his brain must be locked in eternal war.
You say there is no God. Fair enough. As you are the one with questions I say this; we can only know the real outcome when we both are dead. Therefor, you must die first that you may provide the rest of us with proof. After all, we believe, you do not. To do this experiment you must take your own life. If you don't return as a ghost, god, spirit, moving around on a Ouija or chess board then there is no God, if you do, well there is one. Are you up to the Challenge Sir or is the scientific method dead? After all Scott went to Antarctic, are you less then he? Is real experimental science dead?
Really? Who says that? Certainly no modern Physicist. No wait, you parrot the Atheist meme. Sorry, I thought you were a real scientist there for a moment. Carry on.
I'm merely an atheist because when I tried to find god I failed. I simply could not find an explanation that actually made sense. I simply could not find evidence to support the idea
I am very sorry that you did not find what you sought, no snark, I really am. I am quite the opposite. I converted from Atheism because of what I saw and experienced. You could look up my past comments to get a view on me I guess, but I will tell you that was trained in classical biology and worked as a microbiologist for years (still love breeding germs:)) I always wanted to be a Systemic Botanist - a plant person that figures out the evolution of plants based on genetics. To this day I would take the job if they offered it. What you are looking for you will not find in a church.
You looked, you did not find. I would encourage you to look more, what you seek is out there, if you need help, I will help.
...and yet the scientists in must wonder why hundreds of cultures seperated by thousands of miles - all developed the same Godhead? What is truth if 1000 men see the same thing and yet one does not?
How lovely, I never knew he said that. Around my parts they call his folk "Death Bed Christians" Funny to know he is one. And yeah, that is not what he said, but what it tells me that given enough of a dire situation Mr Dawkins would pray that teapot existed just like the rest. Oh the irony...
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Wait - you get to throw up your hands and say "It was the Big Bang" and it is OK, yet when I do it it is not? The current theory says that matter did not exist before the Big Bang, yet that is OK, and God existing before then is not OK. If you want to clean house about fairy-stories start in your own house.
Sera
About your sig. FWIW I have had Steven Brust cook me dinner - he is better than a good cook. He is also happens to be a most excellent Football referee.
Some one tag this as not enough. Cripes why would you starve basic research? Morons. Sorry, Policy driven Morons.
I agree, I do however think they have got a bit more sensationalist - but I think that is more experience in Slashdot and in the field of CS and knowledge of the subject matter then what is really meant to be there. So my issue not Slashdot's. Slashdot is a wonder of info for anyone seeking technical knowledge. Just learn to avoid the obvious flame pits of religion, politics and dichotomy wars (vi/emacs, gnome/KDE, etc.) - oh and learn to read a troll for what it is rather than it being a different position and you will be fine. The amount of sheer knowledge and experience here in many fields is an awesome thing to draw upon.
:) - - Sera
Nice to see a low UID say it though.
CG=The end justifies the means LE=The means justify the end.
All you have now is a continuum from Law to Chaos with Law being Good. I hate to be political but isn't that what half the issues in this country are about? Law=Good?
Imagine you are a grease monkey. You know, you are the person that loves to get under the hood and really tinker around. You own 20+ cars and even an engine block or two extra. You are sitting around one day thinking about picking up that old '69 Ford F-100 with three on the tree when a buddy stops by and tells you the news. Detroit is going all metric. Huh? Metric? Really? Now sure you still have all those old engines to play with but at the same time some of the new stuff is pretty cool. And with your current tools you can approximate metric for anything new, but it is a huge pain in the ass and for no real gain. Sure you can retool and outfit your kit again, but really who needs the pain? All of Detroit's effort is now going away from you and your passion. Sure they still make cars, and they always will, but now they are all metric - and built for hauling soccer moms. Gone are the muscle cars and the trucks. So you can't even pick up a book and get ideas for your truck based work.
To take this back out of analogy land I can say that in my campaigns people begged to play clerics because my house rules made them more than walking hospitals. 4th ed makes them nothing more then glorified fighters and IMHO actually exacerbates he problem of playing them rather then helping. Paladins heal better now, welcome to the new walking hospital.
Thats because you can't completely disable it.
Why in the world would you need to reboot anything? - that is Windows thinking. If you charted my uptime you would see that it correllates perfectly with power outages in my neighborhood. That counts for work as well. Whenm they finally slap the generator in at work this summer I expect hardware failure to be the only reason for downtime. Also your machines in linux land should be auto patching themselves without your intervention save for the odd bit of software you may have bought - but that is easily scriptable.
;)
What I see is that your 10 minute procedure takes me under a minute to fire off a script in Linux land. Also a lot of what you presented earlier is does not have to be done done in AD - branding with screen saver, fire wall rules, security level based on OU, shares etc. A couple of Ghost-type images and set it all when you roll them out. Need a firewall change? Egads set up a 5 machine bank to learn how to script it, I dont think it would be more than a five lines of script if you don't count #!/bin/bash. Not to flame you, but it really isn't that difficult. For what little I have ever messed with AD and GP - I have the opposite sentiment that you do
Sera
You are right, why manufacture or own a Ford when there are still formula one cars, hummers and 18 wheelers.
You can't do that - you cant be "kinda pregnant", "sorta a virgin" or "technically agnostic". Hate to tell you but you either are an Atheist or you are not. There is no in-between. It is that easy. A(not)Theist(believing in a God). The moment you try to drop conditions in there you foul the water. Santa is disprovable (though if you do it in front of my children I will hurt you - that is very provable) You are not technically agnostic - you *are* Agnostic.
Seraphim
Dude! you are sooooo getting coal ;)
Sera
It tells me that He has doubt. And as he faces Eternity at the moment of his death he will beg for life. At that moment, he will pray to anyone, even to Wotan, Zeus, Raven, Isis, Lodg, even Satan Himself. He may be a great scientist, but he is a lousy Atheist. Considering that the zombies he has inspired carry his books like Jehovah's Witness's and call themselves atheists in his wake then perhaps he should clarify his position - but that would cut into his profits wouldn't it? I stand by my position. Dawkins is as much a fraud as Jimmy Baker, Swaggert, The Amazing Randi and your corner card shark. I have no issues with Atheism, do what you will ('shall be the Whole of the Law') But the religion of Dawkins needs to stop.
Seraphim
Very insightful - but notice an oddity to you second thing - look at the 17th stroke of the 5th line of the fist part. It is positively wedge shaped at the bottom, several others though the piece bear the same mark. For the life of me I cannot fiure out how any wring utensil short of a odd calligraphy pen could ever pull that of - except for a hand sharpened pencil. Also the general grittness of the lines make me think pencil over rough paper.
Sera
I had sort of wondered the same thing. The only thing I have to add is I wonder if the line position has anything to do with it - imagine printing an empty scale on op of each line. I suppose it is not drawn well enough to tell really,
I recently finished my first Mieville - Un Lun Dun, my God what a good book, one of the best things I have ever read. I honestly can't recommend it enough. And to think the guy has a PhD in Economics, the two halves of his brain must be locked in eternal war.
Sera
I can also divisive an experiment.
You say there is no God. Fair enough. As you are the one with questions I say this; we can only know the real outcome when we both are dead. Therefor, you must die first that you may provide the rest of us with proof. After all, we believe, you do not. To do this experiment you must take your own life. If you don't return as a ghost, god, spirit, moving around on a Ouija or chess board then there is no God, if you do, well there is one. Are you up to the Challenge Sir or is the scientific method dead? After all Scott went to Antarctic, are you less then he? Is real experimental science dead?
Seraphim
Really? Who says that? Certainly no modern Physicist. No wait, you parrot the Atheist meme. Sorry, I thought you were a real scientist there for a moment. Carry on.
Seraphim
You looked, you did not find. I would encourage you to look more, what you seek is out there, if you need help, I will help.
...and yet the scientists in must wonder why hundreds of cultures seperated by thousands of miles - all developed the same Godhead? What is truth if 1000 men see the same thing and yet one does not?
Seraphim
How lovely, I never knew he said that. Around my parts they call his folk "Death Bed Christians" Funny to know he is one. And yeah, that is not what he said, but what it tells me that given enough of a dire situation Mr Dawkins would pray that teapot existed just like the rest. Oh the irony ...
Seraphim