Except of course that that every time ID is mentioned the lack of degrees in biology, physics, microbiology, genetics, etc are invariably brought up. Though I am a Christian, I also worked for years as a Microbiologist, dont mistake me as one of those folk. The worst part of this "debate" is that it exists at all. Philosophy (and Religion) and Science are orthogonal to each other. This is a Dawkins vs Falwell war - don't be a soldier.
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Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I have always wanted to spend a summer reading all the Nebula and Hugo winners, perhaps that is this summer. You have given me much to think about and again, I thank you for it. Though I suppose that we shall never meet in real life, make sure that you have a good one. (sorry, yesterday was my birthday, I am a bit maudlin still;) )
I read into your first post. I have never read Ender's Game, so I guess I can't really judge that whole affair. It states two things that I find interesting though. The first is that the book was written "by committee" yet it never says who they are. A Hugo and Nebula winner of a book written by committee, none of whom have ever come out? Tinfoil hat time really. I have yet to meet an author that wont gladly put there name on a publication and complain LOUDLY when it doesn't happen. Who are these mythical authors? The same sort of thing has been leveled at Shakespeare for years, yet even the best guess about that fails on many levels.
The other is that the author never tells who he is, nor 'Elaine" though she drops out of the SF scene. I also find it hard to believe that a journal devoted to authors holds sole copyright to the works they publish. No modern author is that stupid. I guess I have to call bullshit on this. In any event deconstruction of any work is at best a guessing game. Where you see the great building of America in the 18th century I can see the repression of the Indians for example, both are valid.
I guess one of the things that has me at a loss in the article you linked is the conflation of the words "fascist" and "Hitler". I guess I would expect a person who was trying to critique a book would understand that though Hitler was a Fascist, not all Fascists are Hitler. Don't get me wrong, I hate them of any stripe, but it is sloppy writing to equate the two.
I actually do know many fantasy authors, (no real SF ones sadly) and next time I see them I plan on asking about this to get their opinions, I am sure it will be interesting. To sum up though I have seen way too many stories/plays/poems/books reinterpreted to be impressed anymore. Was it a Hitler allegory? Meh, were Heinlein's later works a text book about polygamy? If they both were, who cares, If you get your morality from a SF novel, you have bigger issues. And if you are concerned that Book I vs Book III are that different...well, the literary world is full of one hit wonders - 'Catcher in the Rye' is the perennial favorite.
I mean they stole the data of 700,000 people that were on the roles at a Debt Collection company. I mean, these are people that can't pay their bills and have bad credit. How stupid is it to steal that data. "Uh...my SSN is...er...123-45-6789" "I am sorry sir, with your credit score we can't issue you a card." Sure it is still a bad thing for those people to have their info exposed, but sheesh what is next - "Thieves get data of soup kitchen patrons, bankrupt Campbells."? My suspicion is that they are too dumb to know what they have stolen. "Should we bring this flat one? It ain't got no screen or keyboard?" "Sure, I bet its a dvd player, grab it."
I think that the word that scares me most in that is "arrested". Arrested != Convicted != Guilty. Why are we permanently infringing the rights of the accused? "We will hold your DNA profile because you might do something later." - so much for the presumption of innocence.
I always see this sort of comment, and I never say anything, but I guess this once I have to say that Kubuntu has never failed to work perfectly out of the box on every laptop I have tossed it at, including 8.04. Wifi is perfect, sound is fine, flash works as advertised, etc, etc. The only thing that doesn't work is compiz, but this is kubuntu, so I have never even tried. This is on laptops from 6mo to 5 years old. Just like desktops you have to be careful what you buy and what you expect out of the hardware you own. Yeah, I know it is a lot harder with laptops, but still, if you have problems, submit the bug, find the fix, post it, patch it or write an installer for it. You state there is a lot of misinformation out there, so help set the record straight. And for the curious, every laptop I have tossed at it has been a Gateway, it is all work buys. YMMV
Getting linux running smoothly can be just as trying as windows if not more trying.
You are right, but at least I didn't pay $200+ for the OS and +$? for antispyware/antivirus/firewall/Office for the privilege to have that aggravation. I also don't have to call Redmond anytime I switch out a bit of hardware to ask "Can I still run my computer?". People are a lot more tech savvy these days and getting more so by the day. If you are going to irritated by your computer OS anyway, why pay for it?
I also have anecdotal evidence of many pre-med students using Ritalin when they study for the MCAT, prerequisite courses, etc. since competition for med school here is so fierce.
Just what I want to hear:
Pulls off mask. "I'm...I'm sorry, your spouse didn't make it."
"My god why??? You said it was simple surgery."
"Well the resident didn't take his speed...I mean Ritalin this morning and..."
Education authorities don't believe in the teaching power of games...
As someone who works in the higher education field I can tell you that you are completely wrong. You are right though, in that EA and their ilk have no desire to get in the market at the moment, but there are a number of smaller groups that do. There are lots of newsletters, conferences, groups and organizations in this area, and a lot of educators very interested in seeing what can be done. I don't know what you saw, but it wasn't the face of modern education gaming.
He owns both armor.com and armour.com he has bee approached by folks looking to buy one or the other (or both) names... but he has never been even offered even serious six figures. Even the Hormel people never came up with real cash. Meh.
3. We gave you a network drive, you were told to use it. It is no longer an IT issue - go see your Boss. And when he comes to us we will explain why he has to educate you about how to do your job, helllooo revue.
4. We told you how to back up your email, did you not do it? And besides what business have you not completed in 2 years? OK, none of MY business, but again, maybe your Boss should know that you have 2 year old email outstanding
5. The Legal Dept should have made damn sure they had all back ups years ago. We set it up, did they not do do diligence on their end?
6. If they have a virus that is indeed my fault. I will move Heaven and Earth to fix that. By the way. Expect both Heaven and Earth to be moving soon, do not complain that they do indeed move.
Damn it Scotty, I need 6000 lumens on the side of this mountain playing Moulin Rouge. I don't care how you do it but get me those lumens mister, that's an order. Kirk out.
Except of course you are wrong. It was unregulated lenders that sold to banks that are at the root of this problem. No bank was rewarded for rotten loans, quite the opposite. And you are right, there is poor regulation, it really needs more.
Yeah, it "used to be" that when you posted to Slashdot people "used to be" able to distinguish between a social statement and a technical one. As in Safe Haven = an place were people could go post with out fear about their condition NOT safe haven = a safe technical spot. It 'used to be" That people that couldn't discern the difference between the two got moderated down, not up. "Used to be" that those handing out tough love of the "now you know how the world works" variety had some actual damn experience in the area they were spouting off about. "used to be" that people with low UIDs actually had a clue. I really don't know who is dumber, you, or the people that moderated you up.
I also absolutely disagree with federal school lunch standards.
Huh? I dont even see how you got to this. I mean, tater tots are cheap, so is peanut butter, buy them by the drum and you got lunch for weeks! Hell you want to fight something, fight NCLB. But lunch standards? Good Lord I cant even imagine being against giving a kid a nutritious lunch. If it were abolished do you have any idea what would happen in poor rural schools? You may sit on your nest and be proud that YOUR school's standards are better, but I would bet entire STATES would be worse off without them. Oh wait you are a "everyone for themselves" conservative who never benefited from society./rolls eyes
Why have fewer species than ever been added to the endangered species list?
Do be careful with that. What a species is gets muddier by the day. By way of example Taraxicum officinale was thought to one species. It is now acknowledged to be but 12+ individuals. That is right - all your Dandelions are the same guy. Differentiation based on species is getting thinner every day. One of my old Botany profs said it best - "The only way to identify a true individual species is to have it become extinct"
Likewise, while the people at CERN may not know if they'll get mini black holes, they can be fairly sure the sorts of dangers they pose, which are "none".
If there is one group on this Earth that you can be sure that have no idea of what the consequences of their studies are, they are the Pure Scientists. History is rife with them. Look at the study of modern Nuclear Science to see this. Missile Technology. To this day the Nobel is the most "Noble" of awards, created by the inventor of Dynamite, a substance that has killed millions. No, CERN does not get to be its own watchdog just because they do pure science. I support them entirely, but they have to be able to explain themselves to the public.
Am I to believe that the energies and particles involved are beyond what happens on/in the sun, or when the Earth is bombarded by radiation from space, or inside of an H-bomb explosion? If so, that's quite amazing.
I would be amazed too. But I would rather not see an Event Horizon because someone mis-Integrated. Unlikely? Sure. Improbable? No.
Are you talking about the two sides that only recently started to give a flying fig about whether you have a right to health care? Ya huh, they are going to care about whether you own your music/OS/software/etc about 20 minutes after never.
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Except of course that that every time ID is mentioned the lack of degrees in biology, physics, microbiology, genetics, etc are invariably brought up. Though I am a Christian, I also worked for years as a Microbiologist, dont mistake me as one of those folk. The worst part of this "debate" is that it exists at all. Philosophy (and Religion) and Science are orthogonal to each other. This is a Dawkins vs Falwell war - don't be a soldier.
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egads Grym, you mean you are pro-constitution? I may have to rethink this friend-friend thing we have here on slashdot ;)
Sera
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I have always wanted to spend a summer reading all the Nebula and Hugo winners, perhaps that is this summer. You have given me much to think about and again, I thank you for it. Though I suppose that we shall never meet in real life, make sure that you have a good one. (sorry, yesterday was my birthday, I am a bit maudlin still ;) )
I read into your first post. I have never read Ender's Game, so I guess I can't really judge that whole affair. It states two things that I find interesting though. The first is that the book was written "by committee" yet it never says who they are. A Hugo and Nebula winner of a book written by committee, none of whom have ever come out? Tinfoil hat time really. I have yet to meet an author that wont gladly put there name on a publication and complain LOUDLY when it doesn't happen. Who are these mythical authors? The same sort of thing has been leveled at Shakespeare for years, yet even the best guess about that fails on many levels.
The other is that the author never tells who he is, nor 'Elaine" though she drops out of the SF scene. I also find it hard to believe that a journal devoted to authors holds sole copyright to the works they publish. No modern author is that stupid. I guess I have to call bullshit on this. In any event deconstruction of any work is at best a guessing game. Where you see the great building of America in the 18th century I can see the repression of the Indians for example, both are valid.
I guess one of the things that has me at a loss in the article you linked is the conflation of the words "fascist" and "Hitler". I guess I would expect a person who was trying to critique a book would understand that though Hitler was a Fascist, not all Fascists are Hitler. Don't get me wrong, I hate them of any stripe, but it is sloppy writing to equate the two.
I actually do know many fantasy authors, (no real SF ones sadly) and next time I see them I plan on asking about this to get their opinions, I am sure it will be interesting. To sum up though I have seen way too many stories/plays/poems/books reinterpreted to be impressed anymore. Was it a Hitler allegory? Meh, were Heinlein's later works a text book about polygamy? If they both were, who cares, If you get your morality from a SF novel, you have bigger issues. And if you are concerned that Book I vs Book III are that different...well, the literary world is full of one hit wonders - 'Catcher in the Rye' is the perennial favorite.
I mean they stole the data of 700,000 people that were on the roles at a Debt Collection company. I mean, these are people that can't pay their bills and have bad credit. How stupid is it to steal that data. "Uh...my SSN is...er...123-45-6789" "I am sorry sir, with your credit score we can't issue you a card." Sure it is still a bad thing for those people to have their info exposed, but sheesh what is next - "Thieves get data of soup kitchen patrons, bankrupt Campbells."? My suspicion is that they are too dumb to know what they have stolen. "Should we bring this flat one? It ain't got no screen or keyboard?" "Sure, I bet its a dvd player, grab it."
I think that the word that scares me most in that is "arrested". Arrested != Convicted != Guilty. Why are we permanently infringing the rights of the accused? "We will hold your DNA profile because you might do something later." - so much for the presumption of innocence.
Sera
I always see this sort of comment, and I never say anything, but I guess this once I have to say that Kubuntu has never failed to work perfectly out of the box on every laptop I have tossed it at, including 8.04. Wifi is perfect, sound is fine, flash works as advertised, etc, etc. The only thing that doesn't work is compiz, but this is kubuntu, so I have never even tried. This is on laptops from 6mo to 5 years old. Just like desktops you have to be careful what you buy and what you expect out of the hardware you own. Yeah, I know it is a lot harder with laptops, but still, if you have problems, submit the bug, find the fix, post it, patch it or write an installer for it. You state there is a lot of misinformation out there, so help set the record straight. And for the curious, every laptop I have tossed at it has been a Gateway, it is all work buys. YMMV
Pulls off mask. "I'm...I'm sorry, your spouse didn't make it."
"My god why??? You said it was simple surgery."
"Well the resident didn't take his speed...I mean Ritalin this morning and..."
Scary to know that Flowers for Algernon is comming to a bedside near you soon.
Sera
Sera
He owns both armor.com and armour.com he has bee approached by folks looking to buy one or the other (or both) names ... but he has never been even offered even serious six figures. Even the Hormel people never came up with real cash. Meh.
And why grey? They should at least be some version of green to keep with the color scheme.
Hmmm.... let me see
1. They cant, it is locked.
2. See One.
3. We gave you a network drive, you were told to use it. It is no longer an IT issue - go see your Boss. And when he comes to us we will explain why he has to educate you about how to do your job, helllooo revue.
4. We told you how to back up your email, did you not do it? And besides what business have you not completed in 2 years? OK, none of MY business, but again, maybe your Boss should know that you have 2 year old email outstanding
5. The Legal Dept should have made damn sure they had all back ups years ago. We set it up, did they not do do diligence on their end?
6. If they have a virus that is indeed my fault. I will move Heaven and Earth to fix that. By the way. Expect both Heaven and Earth to be moving soon, do not complain that they do indeed move.
Sera
Except of course you are wrong. It was unregulated lenders that sold to banks that are at the root of this problem. No bank was rewarded for rotten loans, quite the opposite. And you are right, there is poor regulation, it really needs more.
I agree, why are epileptics allowed to look at pictures anyway?
Yeah, it "used to be" that when you posted to Slashdot people "used to be" able to distinguish between a social statement and a technical one. As in Safe Haven = an place were people could go post with out fear about their condition NOT safe haven = a safe technical spot. It 'used to be" That people that couldn't discern the difference between the two got moderated down, not up. "Used to be" that those handing out tough love of the "now you know how the world works" variety had some actual damn experience in the area they were spouting off about. "used to be" that people with low UIDs actually had a clue. I really don't know who is dumber, you, or the people that moderated you up.
read G as M. Lower your blood pressure.
Are you talking about the two sides that only recently started to give a flying fig about whether you have a right to health care? Ya huh, they are going to care about whether you own your music/OS/software/etc about 20 minutes after never.
Sera