Oddly enough I think the shareholders care if you watch the show legally or not. Viewing = eyeballs and eyeballs = revenue. If I can tell you a million people watch a show, you pay advertising costs based on 2 million eyeballs. Whether even two eyeballs see your ad out of that 2 million or not.
I disagree, it is more like entering a poker game where you can only buy the cards you are dealt - "sorry bub, I can't deal you an Ace till you dropped $1000 for it" (thus my point). Poker can be a game of skill. Magic quickly descended into who could spend more money. They even started selling "tournament decks" for Pete's sake. Your annalogy might make some more sense if there were "I dropped $500 this month on cards" tables, as it stands, you always walked into a supposedly level field. For all the great "skillz" that every Magic player thought he had in the beginning of the game, it was really who had more disposable income to drop on cards. But you missed my point entirely, and the fact that you remembered (where I did not) the correct abbreviation for it makes me wonder how much of your cash went down that rabbit hole.
I tried this once with MTG. A bunch of my friends used to play, so one day we sat down at the table and everybody got out their carefully crafted decks and I brought out a large deck of cards.
"What is that?"
"My deck, it is a black green deck, mostly rares, should work well together."
"What?"
You see I had scanned in the cards from one of the "recognition manuals" printed them on a color printer and taped them to regular playing cards. The whole room about blew a gasket. One guy, who owned the big 7 (or whatever they were called moxes, lotus, etc) about had a heart attack. This was a guy that for a few of his rares would take a land and write the name of the rare on it in marker and use it in play - that was OK, because he 'owned' the real card. We argued for quite a while about it all. I finally gave up, I gave up MTG a few months later realizing what a money sucking hole in the ground it was, and is to this day.
Side note, before I gave it up I tried to talk them into what was essential sealed deck games long before they became the norm for tournaments, not a one would do it. It was so out of their mindset they literally couldn't comprehend it.
Take a deep breath and read your second sentence again. We are talking about Accountants, Managers, Secretaries, and others. To them, yes Farlow's book is a hardcore geek text. And to be honest, what kind of hardcore geek is using excel to make mission critical decisions about things like this anyway?
Actually I have blacksmithed for years, done some weaving, even working in manufacturing (and as long as we are making this personal), dork. I also have written with a pencil from age 4. Being able to work all day at such a task, does indeed require a bit of training, talent, and even good genes. If you get RSI from bad mouse use, touchscreen use, tablet use, or whatever, you learn better habits and different ways to do things. Go play with a Wacom tablet for a while - keyboard to mouse to pen to (theoretical) touch screen and poof RSI starts to fade into the distance do to constant variation, it is the same in all of the hand professions. Then again you saw the same sort of injuries in people who lived like the modern geek, spending 16 hours solid everyday over the loom, anvil, paper or what have you. Bad habits are bad habits and produce bad things.
I know coming off superior on Slashdot is usually aided by a blissful ignorance of any prior understanding of an issue
Yeah, let me know how that works out for you Mr Pot, you me and Mr Kettle can all sit down to a nice coloring contest.
You know there are professions that have been in use for ages that require you to use your arms all day. Blacksmithing, weaving, farming, manufacturing, etc, etc. You would learn to do it, just as you have learned not to do it. Besides, if it was laid down on the desk, it would be like... writing, you know, that people have done for ages. Maybe we could get some Franciscan Monks to teach us how to hold a pen for 8 hours. Yeesh.
Way to miss the point. And you represent science eh? No wonder we are losing in the classroom. A little less vehemence, a little more comprehension. You don't believe, got it. You don't like religion, check. I am a silly liar, right. Got anything else you want to get off your chest? Oh, and for your 'What has God done' diatribe, wake me when the Quadratic Formula inspires the greatest music, art, and poetry in the history of civilization (cue the Crusades rant here - 'But they killed in the name of GOOOoooooOOOD!'). Go back and read what I posted with your blinders off. What i was trying to do was show why Joe Six pack is making the choices he is making. It is your very attitude that is driving the masses out of the lab and into the church because you are making a church out of the lab! I see God in everything, you see him in nothing, that is fine. So why do you feel the need to 'save' me by proselytizing, or was your point just to insult and demean? Read the last part again, science and theism are not a continuum no matter how much you and the religious nutters want to make it one.
At the same time though science asks for as much if not more faith. Not of itself you are correct, but of the unwashed masses. Science as a whole trumps out their giant PhD's and says "You may not have the intelligence we do, but what I speak is 'The Truth'. Believe. (to which the Angry Anti-Religion folk add) Oh, and put down that book of lies you half wit"
Now certainly, I am never going to get the education to really understand what goes on at CERN. But I have the belief that they know what they are doing and not going to anything stupid, and that they are pushing the bounds of human understanding. Read that again. Yes, I have "faith" in them, though I have never seen them, don't know how they do what they do, and I trust they are doing good. Sounds like the roots of most religions to me. 'But wait', you say, 'others know, their are others that can explain, I can draw a diagrams, here is a binder full'. Priests, prophets and a bible. How honest scientists ever got goaded into this debate by the rabid religious and the rabid Atheist/Anti-Religion crowd I will never know.
This is the dichotomy that has been thrust upon science as a whole. Remember the quote about no sufficiently high enough technology and magic? This is the beginning of that. The unwashed masses have a choice of what are in their eyes two priesthoods, They are going toward the one that they feel will take care of them. Remember, baby monkeys will stave on a terry cloth 'Mommy' rather then feed on a cold wire one. Most of what I see is some version of "Your Sky Man is stupid, and you are brain damaged if you believe in him" Yeah, that's going to change their minds about science. Theism |-----| Atheism is a continuum, Theism |-----| Science is not.
You didn't see the words, or take anything from their meaning - you applied your vision to it.
Wow, how about you sit right over there with kettle, in the black section. You seem to be the other side of the coin from your lovely creation museum link. You seem to think that the moment a person espouses a faith that a giant brain sucker comes along to reduce their intelligence. Perhaps if you had read my response you would be able to see that I was addressing the confirmation or refutation of religion by little green men. I am not afraid of that, I asked if you were. Instead of an answer, you send invective and bile. Perhaps you should not get ruffled by the fact that their are people that believe different then you do, for their will always be someone who is that way. If you choose to question the intelligence of 3/4th of the population in a public forum, logic dictates that you are more then likely to get a response. And in response to your question, no, you might not have to stretch the Bible (Koran, what have you) very far at all. Here is but one example off the cuff -
President: So Relznac what brings you to Earth? Is it the great oceans?
Relznac: Nooo...
President: The People, you wanted to met another intelligent spiecies?
Relznac: No...well, Acksnore still wonders if you are intelligent
President: Gold?
Relznac: No.
President: Women?
Relznac: Would we have landed in New York if we wanted them?
President: No, I guess not...What then?
Relznac: We came to see the birthplace of the Prophet.
Not that hard really. I had assumed your later "cheerfully optimistic" statement was about something else, simply their landing. Else you would be the first person that I have ever heard of that the the proof of God's existence wouldn't "change my world views by very much at all." Its been fun but now I got to go slop the hogs in the bedroom...no that's not it...go do some inbreeding...no, not it either...check on some germs I have growing in the incubator, that's it. Maybe they evolved into God, ya think?
Three out of four Americans are Christians, [adherents.com] and they're definitely not ready. So are most other people of faith - since little green men from Tau Ceti would pretty much blow their creation stories out of the water.
Or confirm it. As a person of faith, and a scientist I am not afraid, why are you? Sera
I will go one step further and say that summer break is becoming necessary. It is a time that is outside of the watchful thumb of the Government and provides an opportunity to think without have those thoughts shaped by "The Man". It is a time to explore on one's own and play, truly play without rubberized mats, safe playgrounds, and one size fits all. It is a time for older children to question the world they live in and develop their philosophy. Yes, I know, more often it ends up kids just screwing around with their friends, but to have the potential to do more has to remain if we are to produce great minds.
As far as the CLA quote goes that is a mighty big stretch. You would have to prove that it is your very work that gave them that increase. Even Ms Rowling would have a tough time pulling that off. And I agree, some libraries do turn a profit on the fair use of copying materials. But as many lose money on it as well.
LOL - I was going to say "War and Peace" just for the length of it, but I figured someone would say "Its in the public domain moran (sic)". Some days ya just cant win;)
"Vicarious infringement results when there has been a direct infringement and the vicarious infringer is in a position to control the direct infringer and benefits financially from the infringement." From here.
Doesn't seem to fit, the library does not gain financially.
The college that I work at has photocopy machines in the library. So whose fault is if I walk home with a copy of Harry Potter, the host, the technology, or me?
Does this include DUI? You get tossed into the databse because you had one too many glasses of wine with dinner. "Sorry bub, you pick Chardonnay over your Second Amendment rights"
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Oddly enough I think the shareholders care if you watch the show legally or not. Viewing = eyeballs and eyeballs = revenue. If I can tell you a million people watch a show, you pay advertising costs based on 2 million eyeballs. Whether even two eyeballs see your ad out of that 2 million or not.
sera
Really?
Are the Sodomy laws illegitimate or stupid? Where exactly do you draw the line between those concepts.
Sera
In a court of law yes - but to get a warrent to search the place?
Sera
...and one of the reasons we own a Snapper - Walmart - yuck
I had never heard of it - thank you.
I disagree, it is more like entering a poker game where you can only buy the cards you are dealt - "sorry bub, I can't deal you an Ace till you dropped $1000 for it" (thus my point). Poker can be a game of skill. Magic quickly descended into who could spend more money. They even started selling "tournament decks" for Pete's sake. Your annalogy might make some more sense if there were "I dropped $500 this month on cards" tables, as it stands, you always walked into a supposedly level field. For all the great "skillz" that every Magic player thought he had in the beginning of the game, it was really who had more disposable income to drop on cards. But you missed my point entirely, and the fact that you remembered (where I did not) the correct abbreviation for it makes me wonder how much of your cash went down that rabbit hole.
Obviously I didn't miss the mark.
I tried this once with MTG. A bunch of my friends used to play, so one day we sat down at the table and everybody got out their carefully crafted decks and I brought out a large deck of cards.
"What is that?"
"My deck, it is a black green deck, mostly rares, should work well together."
"What?"
You see I had scanned in the cards from one of the "recognition manuals" printed them on a color printer and taped them to regular playing cards. The whole room about blew a gasket. One guy, who owned the big 7 (or whatever they were called moxes, lotus, etc) about had a heart attack. This was a guy that for a few of his rares would take a land and write the name of the rare on it in marker and use it in play - that was OK, because he 'owned' the real card. We argued for quite a while about it all. I finally gave up, I gave up MTG a few months later realizing what a money sucking hole in the ground it was, and is to this day.
Side note, before I gave it up I tried to talk them into what was essential sealed deck games long before they became the norm for tournaments, not a one would do it. It was so out of their mindset they literally couldn't comprehend it.
Take a deep breath and read your second sentence again. We are talking about Accountants, Managers, Secretaries, and others. To them, yes Farlow's book is a hardcore geek text. And to be honest, what kind of hardcore geek is using excel to make mission critical decisions about things like this anyway?
Sera
Yeah, let me know how that works out for you Mr Pot, you me and Mr Kettle can all sit down to a nice coloring contest.
You know there are professions that have been in use for ages that require you to use your arms all day. Blacksmithing, weaving, farming, manufacturing, etc, etc. You would learn to do it, just as you have learned not to do it. Besides, if it was laid down on the desk, it would be like ... writing, you know, that people have done for ages. Maybe we could get some Franciscan Monks to teach us how to hold a pen for 8 hours. Yeesh.
Sera
Actually I think it would be easier than fruit - you base your detedtion based on leaf shape, not color
Way to miss the point. And you represent science eh? No wonder we are losing in the classroom. A little less vehemence, a little more comprehension. You don't believe, got it. You don't like religion, check. I am a silly liar, right. Got anything else you want to get off your chest? Oh, and for your 'What has God done' diatribe, wake me when the Quadratic Formula inspires the greatest music, art, and poetry in the history of civilization (cue the Crusades rant here - 'But they killed in the name of GOOOoooooOOOD!'). Go back and read what I posted with your blinders off. What i was trying to do was show why Joe Six pack is making the choices he is making. It is your very attitude that is driving the masses out of the lab and into the church because you are making a church out of the lab! I see God in everything, you see him in nothing, that is fine. So why do you feel the need to 'save' me by proselytizing, or was your point just to insult and demean? Read the last part again, science and theism are not a continuum no matter how much you and the religious nutters want to make it one.
Sera
At the same time though science asks for as much if not more faith. Not of itself you are correct, but of the unwashed masses. Science as a whole trumps out their giant PhD's and says "You may not have the intelligence we do, but what I speak is 'The Truth'. Believe. (to which the Angry Anti-Religion folk add) Oh, and put down that book of lies you half wit"
Now certainly, I am never going to get the education to really understand what goes on at CERN. But I have the belief that they know what they are doing and not going to anything stupid, and that they are pushing the bounds of human understanding. Read that again. Yes, I have "faith" in them, though I have never seen them, don't know how they do what they do, and I trust they are doing good. Sounds like the roots of most religions to me. 'But wait', you say, 'others know, their are others that can explain, I can draw a diagrams, here is a binder full'. Priests, prophets and a bible. How honest scientists ever got goaded into this debate by the rabid religious and the rabid Atheist/Anti-Religion crowd I will never know.
This is the dichotomy that has been thrust upon science as a whole. Remember the quote about no sufficiently high enough technology and magic? This is the beginning of that. The unwashed masses have a choice of what are in their eyes two priesthoods, They are going toward the one that they feel will take care of them. Remember, baby monkeys will stave on a terry cloth 'Mommy' rather then feed on a cold wire one. Most of what I see is some version of "Your Sky Man is stupid, and you are brain damaged if you believe in him" Yeah, that's going to change their minds about science. Theism |-----| Atheism is a continuum, Theism |-----| Science is not.
Sera
Fixed that for you.
President: So Relznac what brings you to Earth? Is it the great oceans?
Relznac: Nooo...
President: The People, you wanted to met another intelligent spiecies?
Relznac: No...well, Acksnore still wonders if you are intelligent
President: Gold?
Relznac: No.
President: Women?
Relznac: Would we have landed in New York if we wanted them?
President: No, I guess not...What then?
Relznac: We came to see the birthplace of the Prophet.
Not that hard really. I had assumed your later "cheerfully optimistic" statement was about something else, simply their landing. Else you would be the first person that I have ever heard of that the the proof of God's existence wouldn't "change my world views by very much at all." Its been fun but now I got to go slop the hogs in the bedroom...no that's not it...go do some inbreeding...no, not it either...check on some germs I have growing in the incubator, that's it. Maybe they evolved into God, ya think?
Sera
Sera
...more of a dark gray hat then.
I will go one step further and say that summer break is becoming necessary. It is a time that is outside of the watchful thumb of the Government and provides an opportunity to think without have those thoughts shaped by "The Man". It is a time to explore on one's own and play, truly play without rubberized mats, safe playgrounds, and one size fits all. It is a time for older children to question the world they live in and develop their philosophy. Yes, I know, more often it ends up kids just screwing around with their friends, but to have the potential to do more has to remain if we are to produce great minds.
Sera
OT: The website you link is incredible...I am sorry for her family.
Sera
As far as the CLA quote goes that is a mighty big stretch. You would have to prove that it is your very work that gave them that increase. Even Ms Rowling would have a tough time pulling that off. And I agree, some libraries do turn a profit on the fair use of copying materials. But as many lose money on it as well.
LOL - I was going to say "War and Peace" just for the length of it, but I figured someone would say "Its in the public domain moran (sic)". Some days ya just cant win ;)
Sera
"Vicarious infringement results when there has been a direct infringement and the vicarious infringer is in a position to control the direct infringer and benefits financially from the infringement." From here.
Doesn't seem to fit, the library does not gain financially.
The college that I work at has photocopy machines in the library. So whose fault is if I walk home with a copy of Harry Potter, the host, the technology, or me?
Sera
"and court-ordered drug treatments"
Does this include DUI? You get tossed into the databse because you had one too many glasses of wine with dinner. "Sorry bub, you pick Chardonnay over your Second Amendment rights"
Sera