and it looks liek the Right has the best analsysis over at Powerline blog
Yeah, right, you get this from Powerline and then want to claim non-partisanship? Gimme a break.
Get that fact straight first - what is referred to in the articles online is the world-wide intercept program of the NSA, and that it included some calls that had a terminus in the US as well as in a target of interest area overseas. They are not monitoring your call to the local mosque,
The articles online are wrong. See that is the issue. I will let go of the legal end of who they were monitoring (monitoring the far end is legal - monitoring the near end (which is what Bush did) is not) They are not monitoring your call to the Mosque or Aunt mabel - *yet*. There is the word - yet. This is why we are pissed. We have a president that very well could have broken the Law, yet says he would do it again, shows no doubt, no remose. It has been revealed that several lawful groups in the US have been investigated for no reason and marked as potential terrorists. The Red (now Muslim) scare is back - When is the UnAmerican Sub-Commitee meeting again?
The NSA has done this kind of thing for decades under Democrats and Republicans. Jokes are made about it.
Which still makes it illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional. Bring in all thier heads. Spying on citizens is against the law, even in times of (nondeclared) war. There are arguements as to why this was different under Carter, Bush, Clinton or Reagan. I really don't care. Bring them all to Justice.
Why would someone intelligent believe in an invisible and all-powerful being for whom no evidence exists
Oh? Sir Science by all means show me the scientific proof that God does not exist. As a biologist I would love to read it. As a Christian, I would love to read it. There is no evidence on how life originally formed, yet evolution is considered fact. 'Memory Mud' forming RNA is the best they can offer, yet, no one can dupe it in the lab. I am a biologist, I know that evolution is real, but you and yours *faith* in atheism is always confounding to me. To paraphrase you "Why would someone intelligent believe in a universe that sprang into existense for no reason at all ?"
How about this? and then we move on to this.. Sadly we do not have the energy, materials or knowledge to continue on to the next logical step. There is precious little in science that says we *can't* construct a world. Currently no. In the future? Why not?
OK, you are wrong. What he is trying to say, and do is take the conversation up a notch. He fully knows that evolution works but posits a larger question. If you had enough technology and knowledge isn't intelligent design possible? It is a slight variation on the old "Any sufficient technology is indistinguishable from magic." saying. And of course he is correct, one only has to look for one of those self contained ecoballs (some small critter, water, nutrients, a plant of some kind - leave out in weak sunlight) to see an intelligently designed 'world'. Given enough power, knowledge, and technology people see that terraforming a planet is not so hard perhaps. There is a group that has concieved plans for Mars I think. Next would be building them from scratch. Has it happened? I don't know, nor is there any scientific proof.
As a religeous person, and a scientist I find myself equally intrested and disgusted with each side. ID (w/caps) is tripe, but from a more philosophical bent id(small) is interesting to think about. I heartily agree keep it out of the science classroom as a set of "facts" but muse about it in a senior in college eco-design class.
Oh, I dunno, seems to me that the answer to "Who created the universe?" has been changed a number of times through history. Ptah, Odin, Yahweh, L Ron Hubbard, etc.
Thank You for saying this, I would have been a lot less tactfull. The Salvation Army is a great organization. It helps those that no one else will. Does it have Christian trappings? Yup, but who else would fill thier shoes? IMHO they are Christianity at its best. I have trained my children to always put money in the kettle, even if it the last penny in thier pocket. They, of course don't get it yet, but I hope that they never need the SA either.
How many musicians have succeeded in making a living this way?
Which of course brings up the question of who goes out in the morning saying the World owes me a living because I can strum a guitar coherently? Don't get me wrong, I have *only* purchased CDs direct from a band member's hand in the last 5+ years. But of the bands I know, it is an art - if they find folk that love it, that is job accomplished, not the money. Would they sell out? Not that I have seen, at least a few of them got huge in the local market, but never got swelled heads, prices, or covers for it.
there is no question that Microsoft has scored big with their user friendlyness.
Huh? Back in the day their user friendlines sucked compared to Apple. Why did they win? "Because no one ever got fired for buying IBM." IBM machines had the mind share, MS rode the wave.
Now we're in a period where it turns out that many of Microsofts products are flawed. MS fault? I don't know.
You don't know? Who the in the Hell's else fault is it?
So now we admins introduce Linux. In some companies its getting a foothold but why? Because its good? Personaly I question this, I think a bigger issue is because its become better known.
How about it has better performance, better security, better structure. But wait...Better known? Give me a break. You want to question this as an AC? Smarter people than you or I have made the decision to run it on their hardest hit servers.
Hmm, no. Its still programmed by (no offense intended) long haired hippies who can do whatever they want. And in a way people are right with that assumption.
No, they are not. The core of the developers are all paid by organizations and companies, they are far from "hippies". OSDL, Sun, HP, hell even IBM support them. Thay are NOT going to drop off the planet any time soon.
Just look at what a regular IT manager would say when...(experienced situation).
Great. You ran into a manager who knew squat about linux, only vendors, and made his business decisions based on that - should I laugh or cry?
So now I can come up and say...
Fine, great, and when all those OS trees that Solaris depends on dry up under your scorn, I am sure it will be alright.
Go back to your bridge troll, I will have no more of you. Who ever modded this shite up should have thier heads examined. I defy one of them to dump their points and tell me why they modded this trash up.
I mean, I think there's a "Minnesotans for Global Warming" club somewhere, and I want to join!
There is. We have hotdish potluck at the Lutheran church second tuesday of the month. Don't worry about bringing a copy of RedGreen, we have all the episodes. And yeah, turkey day was damn cold.
This may sound really out there, but I do not know. What I want is a CLI based GUI. I have searced the ncurses area and found nothing. I would really like a CLI interface that ran a GUI. Imagine one that is run by hitting a key combo to resize a window, move it around and/or close it. Multiple windows, a "toolbar", to 'key-click' on and (%*dream*%) interpreted X11 on the fly - run an X11 session with full GUI through a ssh connection - W/O running X11 locally. Upshot if this makes no sense - I would love to log into an ssh session and then pull up an ascii verion of KDE that needs no local anything other than ssh and a big screen
Look into government jobs, both local, state, and federal. Try to get a job near the the government tech jobs if you can't get straight in and "bleed" into the technical aspect. It works wonders. I have a good friend that started an unrelated job working for the state. Because no one else was willing or able to deal with tech stuff he bled over to tech for them - then it was his whole job for them. He is now a FF500 tech Manager. Most government techs are seriously undervalued. When they go private they jump up positions. Something to look into. I hear the Feds are seriously looking for people.
OK, I will say this then. The jobs you describe, the business jobs, marketing, sales, management, all have a thing in commen that is anathema to CS. You can lie. If I manage the Quickie Mart I can write "Managed 1.6 million dollar cash flow for parent company." on my resume. If I managed to get a php CMS running on my local IIS I can hardly write "Ran a Yahoo like web management system." But the Corps see them the same. Ask a salesman if he can hit 500% of last years sales - he will say yes. Ask an IT guy and he will ask you questions back. "I want 500% performance from our website" "Um...what kind? Database response? Web render? Sales!!?" They are very different beasts which sadly are being run by PHB that are used to running the other three.
I really love programming. I would spend the rest of my career designing/coding and mentoring new people entering the field but nobody seems to want that anymore.
Do you really mean that last part? If so I work as a developer for a college that is always looking to pair our (few) coding students with people out in the field.
I am a 24-year-old IT/IS pro with 8 years of field experience under my belt, NT, UNIX, Linux, AIX and AS400 administration experience, built hundereds of workstations, worked with JPL, government, trained tech students and more.
Honestly, I never thought about the appearance of padding before. I actually have 18 years of experience in computing but only 8 professionally, which is what I list. I suppose I could shave off a few years to make it look less like a padded resume, but I am also looking for a reasonable employer who will understand such things. What a pity, I really love IT too.
Nice. Very funny. Age 24, 18 years of computer experience. What was your score in Oregon Trail back in the day?
But it is a difference of use. A linux person is usually a geek who supports users. That linux person, an admin, is a person that can see the function of rolling out an app or OS that has just the features they want, the view of those items, and thier use. Linux excites them for just this reason, total control of the user interface.
The other hand is this UI from microsoft. The other part of Admins are those that must support desktop users, mostly Windows ones. The users run from the smart to the clueless, from few to many, repectivly. This is a case where choice is bad. The admin cannot control the UI, the apps, and the OS.
The upshot is "Choice is Good!" if you have a clue, "Choice is Bad!" if you do not, or have to support those who do not.
As the go to person for JAWS at my workplace I really have to say that JAWS blows. Because of the GUIed nature of windows it constantly reads garbage that even a blid person doesn't need to know. The voices are no better than the good old Talking Moose that used to run on my Mac 512. The licencing is horrible and until about a year ago *required* a floppy to install correctly, and if that floppy failed you had to wait while they sent you a new one. No, in all honesty if JAWS is state of the art for screen readers, the blind need a new advocate.
Now, you rent a room from me and you have a problem, it may be the smell, the food, or the tv channel on a Thursday night. But as you say:
How can the immigrants (Ed:renters, next year family) be called "free" if they aren't allowed to pick and choose the parts of French (Ed: Household) culture they agree with?
But wait, this is my house - don't the rest of us, the majority of the household have a say in what is in our house? And if our house and family has stood for 1000 years should we not have even more say? I agree that no culture is static, but must it be dynamic like yearly fashion either?
If you don't like my house by all means leave, I am not forcing you to be here. "But" you say, "This is the best house to be in." I respond "Did we get that way by following your house rules, or mine? Why is it that you are in my house again? Why is it that your house rules didn't work?" Revolution is for Home, not your adopted new country.
He was using Kos and Democrat underground as an example of the fact we do not have the kind of speech codes that exist in europe.
Why not Nazi web sites? Skinhead ones? Communist, Satanist, Baptist ones? Flat earthers, ID'ers, Creationist, Forced Pregnancy or Pro Choice? Do you not find it odd, that out of the World of Opinion that he choses two liberal political sites? And then you wonder why people object? He had many choices, he chose his words on his bias, not out of some sense of 'Freedom of Speech' love. Had he done so, I, you, he, and anyone else on the web can find far more objectional material to main stream America to point at as an example of free speech.
You know the one, you give it to a toddler and then pull the switch out and then stand back as it shakes the snot out of them as they desperately try to hold on. Like this.
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How about this? and then we move on to this.. Sadly we do not have the energy, materials or knowledge to continue on to the next logical step. There is precious little in science that says we *can't* construct a world. Currently no. In the future? Why not?
Seraphim
OK, you are wrong. What he is trying to say, and do is take the conversation up a notch. He fully knows that evolution works but posits a larger question. If you had enough technology and knowledge isn't intelligent design possible? It is a slight variation on the old "Any sufficient technology is indistinguishable from magic." saying. And of course he is correct, one only has to look for one of those self contained ecoballs (some small critter, water, nutrients, a plant of some kind - leave out in weak sunlight) to see an intelligently designed 'world'. Given enough power, knowledge, and technology people see that terraforming a planet is not so hard perhaps. There is a group that has concieved plans for Mars I think. Next would be building them from scratch. Has it happened? I don't know, nor is there any scientific proof.
As a religeous person, and a scientist I find myself equally intrested and disgusted with each side. ID (w/caps) is tripe, but from a more philosophical bent id(small) is interesting to think about. I heartily agree keep it out of the science classroom as a set of "facts" but muse about it in a senior in college eco-design class.
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Oh, I dunno, seems to me that the answer to "Who created the universe?" has been changed a number of times through history. Ptah, Odin, Yahweh, L Ron Hubbard, etc.
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What have they done that would make you say this? What harm have they caused you or yours? I would really like to know.
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Thank You for saying this, I would have been a lot less tactfull. The Salvation Army is a great organization. It helps those that no one else will. Does it have Christian trappings? Yup, but who else would fill thier shoes? IMHO they are Christianity at its best. I have trained my children to always put money in the kettle, even if it the last penny in thier pocket. They, of course don't get it yet, but I hope that they never need the SA either.
Sera
Which of course brings up the question of who goes out in the morning saying the World owes me a living because I can strum a guitar coherently? Don't get me wrong, I have *only* purchased CDs direct from a band member's hand in the last 5+ years. But of the bands I know, it is an art - if they find folk that love it, that is job accomplished, not the money. Would they sell out? Not that I have seen, at least a few of them got huge in the local market, but never got swelled heads, prices, or covers for it.
Sera
Egads where to start.Huh? Back in the day their user friendlines sucked compared to Apple. Why did they win? "Because no one ever got fired for buying IBM." IBM machines had the mind share, MS rode the wave.You don't know? Who the in the Hell's else fault is it?How about it has better performance, better security, better structure. But wait...Better known? Give me a break. You want to question this as an AC? Smarter people than you or I have made the decision to run it on their hardest hit servers. No, they are not. The core of the developers are all paid by organizations and companies, they are far from "hippies". OSDL, Sun, HP, hell even IBM support them. Thay are NOT going to drop off the planet any time soon. Great. You ran into a manager who knew squat about linux, only vendors, and made his business decisions based on that - should I laugh or cry? Fine, great, and when all those OS trees that Solaris depends on dry up under your scorn, I am sure it will be alright.
Go back to your bridge troll, I will have no more of you. Who ever modded this shite up should have thier heads examined. I defy one of them to dump their points and tell me why they modded this trash up.
Sera
Sigh Nice try man. Too bad for the troll mods and troll responses, I laughed when I saw your post.
There is. We have hotdish potluck at the Lutheran church second tuesday of the month. Don't worry about bringing a copy of RedGreen, we have all the episodes. And yeah, turkey day was damn cold.
Sera (Minneapolis)
This may sound really out there, but I do not know. What I want is a CLI based GUI. I have searced the ncurses area and found nothing. I would really like a CLI interface that ran a GUI. Imagine one that is run by hitting a key combo to resize a window, move it around and/or close it. Multiple windows, a "toolbar", to 'key-click' on and (%*dream*%) interpreted X11 on the fly - run an X11 session with full GUI through a ssh connection - W/O running X11 locally. Upshot if this makes no sense - I would love to log into an ssh session and then pull up an ascii verion of KDE that needs no local anything other than ssh and a big screen
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Look into government jobs, both local, state, and federal. Try to get a job near the the government tech jobs if you can't get straight in and "bleed" into the technical aspect. It works wonders. I have a good friend that started an unrelated job working for the state. Because no one else was willing or able to deal with tech stuff he bled over to tech for them - then it was his whole job for them. He is now a FF500 tech Manager. Most government techs are seriously undervalued. When they go private they jump up positions. Something to look into. I hear the Feds are seriously looking for people.
Sera
OK, I will say this then. The jobs you describe, the business jobs, marketing, sales, management, all have a thing in commen that is anathema to CS. You can lie. If I manage the Quickie Mart I can write "Managed 1.6 million dollar cash flow for parent company." on my resume. If I managed to get a php CMS running on my local IIS I can hardly write "Ran a Yahoo like web management system." But the Corps see them the same. Ask a salesman if he can hit 500% of last years sales - he will say yes. Ask an IT guy and he will ask you questions back. "I want 500% performance from our website" "Um...what kind? Database response? Web render? Sales!!?" They are very different beasts which sadly are being run by PHB that are used to running the other three.
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But it is a difference of use. A linux person is usually a geek who supports users. That linux person, an admin, is a person that can see the function of rolling out an app or OS that has just the features they want, the view of those items, and thier use. Linux excites them for just this reason, total control of the user interface.
The other hand is this UI from microsoft. The other part of Admins are those that must support desktop users, mostly Windows ones. The users run from the smart to the clueless, from few to many, repectivly. This is a case where choice is bad. The admin cannot control the UI, the apps, and the OS.
The upshot is "Choice is Good!" if you have a clue, "Choice is Bad!" if you do not, or have to support those who do not.
Sera
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OK, I will bite
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Now, you rent a room from me and you have a problem, it may be the smell, the food, or the tv channel on a Thursday night. But as you say: But wait, this is my house - don't the rest of us, the majority of the household have a say in what is in our house? And if our house and family has stood for 1000 years should we not have even more say? I agree that no culture is static, but must it be dynamic like yearly fashion either?
If you don't like my house by all means leave, I am not forcing you to be here. "But" you say, "This is the best house to be in." I respond "Did we get that way by following your house rules, or mine? Why is it that you are in my house again? Why is it that your house rules didn't work?" Revolution is for Home, not your adopted new country.
Sera
And you miss your responders post the same way. Why not Nazi web sites? Skinhead ones? Communist, Satanist, Baptist ones? Flat earthers, ID'ers, Creationist, Forced Pregnancy or Pro Choice? Do you not find it odd, that out of the World of Opinion that he choses two liberal political sites? And then you wonder why people object? He had many choices, he chose his words on his bias, not out of some sense of 'Freedom of Speech' love. Had he done so, I, you, he, and anyone else on the web can find far more objectional material to main stream America to point at as an example of free speech.
Sera
How about this - yahoo doesn't search my mail, Google does. I would prefer that may mail is not open to a search engine.
You know the one, you give it to a toddler and then pull the switch out and then stand back as it shakes the snot out of them as they desperately try to hold on. Like this.
Sera