BANGALORE: India plays a pivotal role in Intel's new "World Ahead" programme, says Paul Otellini on his first visit to this country, as the Chief Executive of the world's number one silicon technology player.
The $1 billion initiative, will include venture capital activities, education and community outreaches -- and research aimed at creating computing products that will make a difference to the world's `unconnected' millions.
India has a `double role' in this scenario: A $800 million war chest has already been deployed since December last year, to address educational needs, including a teacher training programme that is Intel's largest such initiative, any where in the world.
Launching the programme, here on Tuesday, Mr. Otellini said the other India-centric angle, was in the very creation of the products to fuel "World Ahead": Intel's Bangalore-based platform definition centre -- one of only four worldwide -- has designed and developed three different computing platforms: a rugged community shared PC working off a car battery; a low cost-full feature PC with an extremely small form factor that would be available within two months from five different Indian manufacturers at prices at least 20 per cent cheaper than comparable configuration and a students' notebook PC, the "ClassMate", that will be manufactured by partners worldwide next year, under the company's "Eduwise" initiative for schools.
When it came to the connectivity to reach the 850 million Indian households now untouched by computers and the Internet, Mr. Otellini saw WiMax as the way to go. "This is the best solution for low cost, high bandwidth access to telemedicine and e-learning resources", he said. He added that the company was cooperating with over 14 WiMax trials now being carried out in India by service providers like BSNL, Tata-VSNL, Bharti, Sify and others.
On Wednesday, Mr. Otellini will lead a large team at the Intel Capital CEO Summit in Mumbai when chief executives of dozens of companies in which Intel has invested worldwide, will meet to discuss opportunities in India.
Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?"
Why the fuck will someone shift to linux just because Windows does'nt happen to have a..erm..media player. It must be slow news day. Its official Slashdot is dying. I confirm it. Nothing here to see. Move On.
The world may be my 'playground'..but, I live HERE...and need a job HERE.
Its all very strange to me. I came here to the US a few years ago, got my masters and had three job offers by the time I finished. I dont see why anybody with a college degree wont find a job with a little bit of effort. One just needs to be smart about the kind of jobs to look for. I think Americans in general have great communication and leadership ability which is a great asset for a startup in say South Korea,China or India. I personally know of people who have top management jobs there by the time they are 35.
US based company cannot compete on a global scale, based largely on labor costs.
Is'nt that true? What about the Walmarts of the world? The other day while shopping I saw an american flag with "made in china" proudly inscribed on it. This "walmartization" is now moving to the american white collor service sector and you can do nothing to stop it. Software consultants can now provide services to buisiness' at a fraction of costs and hence reducing their IT spending. This would in turn enable business' to spend more of their money on core competencies which would create more jobs.
Look at India as a nation...rampant disease, filth and poverty, but they can afford a nuclear weapons program.
A nuclear weapon was neccessary deterrent developed in 1970 beacuse China invaded us in the early 60's . Also to our west is a country which trained 9/11 hijackers and where Osama bin laden currently hides.
So your argument is basically "suck it up" America
No.
Your argument that "all" the jobs are going to dissappear does not hold water and smacks of short sightedness and extreme pessimism. Sure, in the short term people are gonna loose jobs but this "correction" has to occur at some point of time. Let us consider a scenario where IBM for instance stopped outsourcing to low cost nations like India. Keeping the cost down helps it from competition from the Infosys' and Wipros of the world. An "US only" IBM will obviously fail to compete with firms from India and China when catering to say the Lat Am or East European market. This would eventually lead to a massive collapse of the economy as American companies would find it hard to market to the other 5.5 billion on the planet . What people like you fail to realize is the global nature of trade. We are moving to an era where it does'nt matter where you come from. The world is your playground. We are moving to an era which is more like the United States of the World. We are getting there trust me. I dont think in this scenario it would be prudent for any country to be a "frog in the well". Remember: globalization works both ways.
This is scary. I just dont get whats happening to this country. I've had the previlage of being a grad student here for the last four years and the idea of the US losing the tech edge seemed so preposterous till the other day. I have to say, these four Bush years are really the inflection point, the beginning of the end maybe? Bush seems to beginning to assume Stalinesque staure as days go by. I think the next presidential election will undoubtably be the one which makes or breaks the future. It remains to be seen if the next guy in line can undo all the crap of 8 years of fascist, xenophobic policies and magnificient stupidity.
Can somebody please post email id's for all the MCI execs. At least we could have the pleasure of subscribing them to extremely useful and fulfilling penis enlargement newsletters. On a more serious note, I cant believe this is actually a company with luminaries like Vint Cerf ( in my book the father of the Internet) on its board. There's nothing more ironical than that.
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Amid increasing calls for protection of American industries and banning outsourcing of IT services to countries like India, China and Brazil, Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan has asserted that globalisation eventually benefits all and any impediments to it would exact a heavy price.
Outsourcing and India: Complete Coverage
"I do not doubt that the vast majority of us would prefer to work in an environment that was less stressful and less competitive than the one with which we currently engage," Greenspan said delivering an address via satellite before the British Treasury's Enterprise Conference in London on Monday.
"The cries of distress amply demonstrate that flexibility and its consequence, rigorous competition, are not universally embraced," he said.
But as consumers, most people "seem to insist" on low product prices and high quality.
"If a producer can offer quality at a lower price than the competition, retailers are pressed to respond because the consumer will otherwise choose a shopkeeper who does," Greenspan said.
He warned that the consequences of moving towards protectionism in today's globalised financial world could be unexpectedly destabilising.
"I am optimistic that we and our global trading partners will shun that path. The evidence is simply too compelling that our mutual interests are best served by promoting the free flow of goods and services among our increasingly flexible and dynamic market economies," he said.
I notice you overwhelmed us with a relentless barrage of facts refuting his claims...It's no damn wonder India can pay minimum wage for tech jobs
Read this you fuckhead::
- Whats minimum wage in the US is a upper middle class wage in India.
Stats:
Average Salary of a entry level programmer in India is Rs 400,000 an year (8000$). With 8000$ you can rent yourself a house in an ultra urbane place..get a decent car..live the same quality of life which a middle class person in the US would enjoy.
half the freakin' country is slaves
Why the fuck is this modded Intresting when its nothing more than a Troll...jeez..its really sad that some people on slashdot have very little understanding of ground realities and indulge in needless flaming.
-The Radeon 9200 in the charts is actually Radeon 9200 SE. ( a 64 bit GPU card as opposed to the 128 bit Radeon 9200). I am sure people are gonna return cards back to the store basing on the review itself.
-A ps: Any ideas from slashdotters on what should be an acceptable non gamer high performance card?? Stuff good enough for dvd's,photoshop..the works..
As a graduate student in the US, I find it convinient to just get it from my Chinese or Indian friends visting their home countries during semester breaks. Cost savings are just tremendous,although, there is a noticable difference in paper quality.
Just to illustrate the price difference ; chk this out:
$1200/year for an entry level job is a pretty fair wage there Where did you get that idea from?? The national average of $460 is low because 80% of India's one billion is rural, where, the cost of living is extremely low. The thing to compare is standard of living and not the cost of living. Although, I agree that 5000$ an year does allow one to have a comfortable life, 0.66$/hr in urban palces is still very low even by Indian standards.
here's the whole article
Novell backs off copyright claims against SCO
Juan Carlos Perez, IDG News Service
10/06/2003 08:25:59
The SCO Group Inc. has found what it says is proof that it owns all copyrights related to the Unix operating system, a claim rival Novell Inc. had contested last month and for which SCO may seek to recoup damages.
SCO said Friday the proof is in an amendment to the asset purchase agreement through which SCO acquired Unix from Novell in 1995. The amendment dates from 1996.
"Today we slammed the door shut on (this copyright question) and threw away the key once and for all, so this issue doesn't come up again," said Darl McBride, SCO's president and chief executive officer, in an interview.
Last month, Novell said it hadn't transferred Unix's copyrights nor patents to SCO as part of their Unix purchase agreement.
But in light of SCO's finding, Novell on Friday reluctantly acknowledged that the amendment "appears to support SCO's claim that ownership of certain copyrights for Unix did transfer to SCO in 1996." However, Novell reiterated its claim that it holds the Unix patents.
Novell's response has left SCO's McBride dissatisfied. He wants Novell to issue a clear retraction and to own up to its incorrect claim regarding Unix copyright ownership, which left it "with eggs all over its face," McBride said.
"It's not our desire to litigate with Novell, but we believe they do need to take responsibility for their improper actions and for the injury and harm they've done to us in the marketplace" by claiming SCO didn't own the Unix copyrights, McBride said.
SCO's legal team is looking into the matter and may advise the company to seek money from Novell for damages, McBride said.
On the question of patents, McBride said Novell's name isn't on the Unix patents, but rather AT&T Corp.'s, which is the company that first developed the operating system. The patents are enforced by the copyright holder, which in this case is SCO, McBride said.
Novell didn't return calls seeking comment.
At any rate, the companies are involved in nothing more than a war of words so far. Neither has raised the issue with a court.
The Unix product in question is Unix System V, which is the core Unix code which SCO owns and licenses to third-parties which then use it to create their own derivative Unix versions, such as Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HP-UX, IBM Corp.'s AIX and Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris.
Novell, based in Provo, Utah, launched its challenge last month in order to poke holes into SCO's legal challenges against the open-source Linux operating system. SCO has made allegations that Unix code it owns has been illegally copied into Linux software, including the Linux operating system kernel.
In Friday's statement, Novell again reiterated its demand that SCO present evidence to back up its allegations. SCO's McBride said the company has already begun showing its evidence to analysts, customers and other industry players.
So far, SCO, based in Lindon, Utah, has only formally sued one company over Unix and Linux: IBM. In March, SCO sued IBM, seeking at least US$1 billion, alleging misappropriation of trade secrets, unfair competition, contract interference and breach of contract, in attempts to damage Unix to benefit its Linux business.
Related to the case, McBride said SCO has also found evidence of AIX code having been copied into Linux software.
SCO has purposefully decided not to proceed with a copyright or patent violation charge against IBM, or anybody else for that matter so far, because it believes the avenue it has taken against IBM puts it on much stronger legal ground, its executives have said.
SCO also warned commercial Linux vendors of possible liabilities. It has also sent letters to about 1,500 large companies warning them they could be held liable for intellectual property violations related to their use of Linux software, and issued the same warning to commercial users in general via a press release last month. The warning has outraged and concerned many commercial Linux users.
SCO has n
That depends on your definiton of "Get by on 10000 Rs/Month". Income would exactly meet a very frugal existance and by no means can support more than one person in a city like Bombay. And If you compare it my minimum-wage-earning friends back in the States..I would say the standard of living is even worse.
If only this logic would appeal to a Tech Support/Call Centre company in countries like India. Here is an interesting statistic
Average pay of Tech Support/ Call Centre guy per MONTH = 10,000 Rs (Thatâ(TM)s a partly 200$ per month)
Average Hours worked per week = 75
Thatâ(TM)s 300 hours per month
So thatâ(TM)s 0.66$ per hour..Almost ONE TENTH (!) of the MINIMUM wage in the US. And all those people have four year degrees in Engineering or are MBA'S.
But then again you must be lucky to at least get a job in a place like India.....
Slashdot Mirror
TFA
BANGALORE: India plays a pivotal role in Intel's new "World Ahead" programme, says Paul Otellini on his first visit to this country, as the Chief Executive of the world's number one silicon technology player.
The $1 billion initiative, will include venture capital activities, education and community outreaches -- and research aimed at creating computing products that will make a difference to the world's `unconnected' millions.
India has a `double role' in this scenario: A $800 million war chest has already been deployed since December last year, to address educational needs, including a teacher training programme that is Intel's largest such initiative, any where in the world.
Launching the programme, here on Tuesday, Mr. Otellini said the other India-centric angle, was in the very creation of the products to fuel "World Ahead": Intel's Bangalore-based platform definition centre -- one of only four worldwide -- has designed and developed three different computing platforms: a rugged community shared PC working off a car battery; a low cost-full feature PC with an extremely small form factor that would be available within two months from five different Indian manufacturers at prices at least 20 per cent cheaper than comparable configuration and a students' notebook PC, the "ClassMate", that will be manufactured by partners worldwide next year, under the company's "Eduwise" initiative for schools.
When it came to the connectivity to reach the 850 million Indian households now untouched by computers and the Internet, Mr. Otellini saw WiMax as the way to go. "This is the best solution for low cost, high bandwidth access to telemedicine and e-learning resources", he said. He added that the company was cooperating with over 14 WiMax trials now being carried out in India by service providers like BSNL, Tata-VSNL, Bharti, Sify and others.
On Wednesday, Mr. Otellini will lead a large team at the Intel Capital CEO Summit in Mumbai when chief executives of dozens of companies in which Intel has invested worldwide, will meet to discuss opportunities in India.
Paul Otelini is at it again.3 511700.htm/
http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/24/stories/200605240
Yeah
Yes motherfuckers. Yes.
Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?"
..erm..media player. It must be slow news day. Its official Slashdot is dying. I confirm it. Nothing here to see. Move On.
Why the fuck will someone shift to linux just because Windows does'nt happen to have a
The world may be my 'playground'..but, I live HERE...and need a job HERE.
Its all very strange to me. I came here to the US a few years ago, got my masters and had three job offers by the time I finished. I dont see why anybody with a college degree wont find a job with a little bit of effort. One just needs to be smart about the kind of jobs to look for. I think Americans in general have great communication and leadership ability which is a great asset for a startup in say South Korea,China or India. I personally know of people who have top management jobs there by the time they are 35.
US based company cannot compete on a global scale, based largely on labor costs.
Is'nt that true? What about the Walmarts of the world? The other day while shopping I saw an american flag with "made in china" proudly inscribed on it. This "walmartization" is now moving to the american white collor service sector and you can do nothing to stop it. Software consultants can now provide services to buisiness' at a fraction of costs and hence reducing their IT spending. This would in turn enable business' to spend more of their money on core competencies which would create more jobs.
Look at India as a nation...rampant disease, filth and poverty, but they can afford a nuclear weapons program.
A nuclear weapon was neccessary deterrent developed in 1970 beacuse China invaded us in the early 60's . Also to our west is a country which trained 9/11 hijackers and where Osama bin laden currently hides. So your argument is basically "suck it up" America No.
Your argument that "all" the jobs are going to dissappear does not hold water and smacks of short sightedness and extreme pessimism. Sure, in the short term people are gonna loose jobs but this "correction" has to occur at some point of time. Let us consider a scenario where IBM for instance stopped outsourcing to low cost nations like India. Keeping the cost down helps it from competition from the Infosys' and Wipros of the world. An "US only" IBM will obviously fail to compete with firms from India and China when catering to say the Lat Am or East European market. This would eventually lead to a massive collapse of the economy as American companies would find it hard to market to the other 5.5 billion on the planet . What people like you fail to realize is the global nature of trade. We are moving to an era where it does'nt matter where you come from. The world is your playground. We are moving to an era which is more like the United States of the World. We are getting there trust me. I dont think in this scenario it would be prudent for any country to be a "frog in the well". Remember: globalization works both ways.
This is scary. I just dont get whats happening to this country. I've had the previlage of being a grad student here for the last four years and the idea of the US losing the tech edge seemed so preposterous till the other day. I have to say, these four Bush years are really the inflection point, the beginning of the end maybe? Bush seems to beginning to assume Stalinesque staure as days go by. I think the next presidential election will undoubtably be the one which makes or breaks the future. It remains to be seen if the next guy in line can undo all the crap of 8 years of fascist, xenophobic policies and magnificient stupidity.
Can somebody please post email id's for all the MCI execs. At least we could have the pleasure of subscribing them to extremely useful and fulfilling penis enlargement newsletters. On a more serious note, I cant believe this is actually a company with luminaries like Vint Cerf ( in my book the father of the Internet) on its board. There's nothing more ironical than that.
We are not poor due to our stupidity. We are poor by design. Just a 100 years ago, we were the richest nation on earth.
i ght-to-india/
No you weren't.
Well here's some food for thought:
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2003/10/21/the-fl
Its free in India http://www.airtelworld.com/postpaid_landing.jsp
How ironic!
Linux Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) 19-Oct-2004 217.154.246.214 Mistral Internet
I follow the following steps :
1) Plug of internet cable.
2) After install turn on windows firewall.
3) connect to internet. update windows..
this works
this problem is fixed in sp2, where firewall is turned on by default.
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Greenspan deplores attacks on outsourcing
January 28, 2004 09:33 IST
Amid increasing calls for protection of American industries and banning outsourcing of IT services to countries like India, China and Brazil, Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan has asserted that globalisation eventually benefits all and any impediments to it would exact a heavy price.
Outsourcing and India: Complete Coverage
"I do not doubt that the vast majority of us would prefer to work in an environment that was less stressful and less competitive than the one with which we currently engage," Greenspan said delivering an address via satellite before the British Treasury's Enterprise Conference in London on Monday.
"The cries of distress amply demonstrate that flexibility and its consequence, rigorous competition, are not universally embraced," he said.
But as consumers, most people "seem to insist" on low product prices and high quality.
"If a producer can offer quality at a lower price than the competition, retailers are pressed to respond because the consumer will otherwise choose a shopkeeper who does," Greenspan said.
He warned that the consequences of moving towards protectionism in today's globalised financial world could be unexpectedly destabilising.
"I am optimistic that we and our global trading partners will shun that path. The evidence is simply too compelling that our mutual interests are best served by promoting the free flow of goods and services among our increasingly flexible and dynamic market economies," he said.
I notice you overwhelmed us with a relentless barrage of facts refuting his claims... It's no damn wonder India can pay minimum wage for tech jobs Read this you fuckhead:: - Whats minimum wage in the US is a upper middle class wage in India. Stats: Average Salary of a entry level programmer in India is Rs 400,000 an year (8000$). With 8000$ you can rent yourself a house in an ultra urbane place ..get a decent car..live the same quality of life which a middle class person in the US would enjoy.
half the freakin' country is slaves Why the fuck is this modded Intresting when its nothing more than a Troll...jeez..its really sad that some people on slashdot have very little understanding of ground realities and indulge in needless flaming.
Tom's sure have their stats messed up
..the works..
-The Radeon 9200 in the charts is actually Radeon 9200 SE. ( a 64 bit GPU card as opposed to the 128 bit Radeon 9200). I am sure people are gonna return cards back to the store basing on the review itself.
-A
ps: Any ideas from slashdotters on what should be an acceptable non gamer high performance card?? Stuff good enough for dvd's,photoshop
As a graduate student in the US, I find it convinient to just get it from my Chinese or Indian friends visting their home countries during semester breaks. Cost savings are just tremendous ,although, there is a noticable difference in paper quality.
Just to illustrate the price difference ; chk this out:
1) US Price
2) Asian Price
$1200/year for an entry level job is a pretty fair wage there
Where did you get that idea from?? The national average of $460 is low because 80% of India's one billion is rural, where, the cost of living is extremely low. The thing to compare is standard of living and not the cost of living. Although, I agree that 5000$ an year does allow one to have a comfortable life, 0.66$/hr in urban palces is still very low even by Indian standards.
here's the whole article Novell backs off copyright claims against SCO Juan Carlos Perez, IDG News Service 10/06/2003 08:25:59 The SCO Group Inc. has found what it says is proof that it owns all copyrights related to the Unix operating system, a claim rival Novell Inc. had contested last month and for which SCO may seek to recoup damages. SCO said Friday the proof is in an amendment to the asset purchase agreement through which SCO acquired Unix from Novell in 1995. The amendment dates from 1996. "Today we slammed the door shut on (this copyright question) and threw away the key once and for all, so this issue doesn't come up again," said Darl McBride, SCO's president and chief executive officer, in an interview. Last month, Novell said it hadn't transferred Unix's copyrights nor patents to SCO as part of their Unix purchase agreement. But in light of SCO's finding, Novell on Friday reluctantly acknowledged that the amendment "appears to support SCO's claim that ownership of certain copyrights for Unix did transfer to SCO in 1996." However, Novell reiterated its claim that it holds the Unix patents. Novell's response has left SCO's McBride dissatisfied. He wants Novell to issue a clear retraction and to own up to its incorrect claim regarding Unix copyright ownership, which left it "with eggs all over its face," McBride said. "It's not our desire to litigate with Novell, but we believe they do need to take responsibility for their improper actions and for the injury and harm they've done to us in the marketplace" by claiming SCO didn't own the Unix copyrights, McBride said. SCO's legal team is looking into the matter and may advise the company to seek money from Novell for damages, McBride said. On the question of patents, McBride said Novell's name isn't on the Unix patents, but rather AT&T Corp.'s, which is the company that first developed the operating system. The patents are enforced by the copyright holder, which in this case is SCO, McBride said. Novell didn't return calls seeking comment. At any rate, the companies are involved in nothing more than a war of words so far. Neither has raised the issue with a court. The Unix product in question is Unix System V, which is the core Unix code which SCO owns and licenses to third-parties which then use it to create their own derivative Unix versions, such as Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HP-UX, IBM Corp.'s AIX and Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. Novell, based in Provo, Utah, launched its challenge last month in order to poke holes into SCO's legal challenges against the open-source Linux operating system. SCO has made allegations that Unix code it owns has been illegally copied into Linux software, including the Linux operating system kernel. In Friday's statement, Novell again reiterated its demand that SCO present evidence to back up its allegations. SCO's McBride said the company has already begun showing its evidence to analysts, customers and other industry players. So far, SCO, based in Lindon, Utah, has only formally sued one company over Unix and Linux: IBM. In March, SCO sued IBM, seeking at least US$1 billion, alleging misappropriation of trade secrets, unfair competition, contract interference and breach of contract, in attempts to damage Unix to benefit its Linux business. Related to the case, McBride said SCO has also found evidence of AIX code having been copied into Linux software. SCO has purposefully decided not to proceed with a copyright or patent violation charge against IBM, or anybody else for that matter so far, because it believes the avenue it has taken against IBM puts it on much stronger legal ground, its executives have said. SCO also warned commercial Linux vendors of possible liabilities. It has also sent letters to about 1,500 large companies warning them they could be held liable for intellectual property violations related to their use of Linux software, and issued the same warning to commercial users in general via a press release last month. The warning has outraged and concerned many commercial Linux users. SCO has n
That depends on your definiton of "Get by on 10000 Rs/Month". Income would exactly meet a very frugal existance and by no means can support more than one person in a city like Bombay. And If you compare it my minimum-wage-earning friends back in the States..I would say the standard of living is even worse.
If only this logic would appeal to a Tech Support/Call Centre company in countries like India. Here is an interesting statistic
Average pay of Tech Support/ Call Centre guy per MONTH = 10,000 Rs (Thatâ(TM)s a partly 200$ per month)
Average Hours worked per week = 75
Thatâ(TM)s 300 hours per month
So thatâ(TM)s 0.66$ per hour..Almost ONE TENTH (!) of the MINIMUM wage in the US. And all those people have four year degrees in Engineering or are MBA'S.
But then again you must be lucky to at least get a job in a place like India.....
Chk out the Sco stock http://ir.sco.com/stock.cfm?Period=1&Bench1=