I strongly agree that developers need their own office with a door. There are times as a dev when you need to close the door and have no distractions for a few hours straight. A personal office allows that.
At my work R&D has offices in a circle around a shared bench area. If you want to collaborate you can go to the center area or use someone's office. If you want to listen in you just have to leave your door open. If you need some privacy and no distractions you can close your door. Best of all worlds.
Exactly. ISO 9001 is about having a documented procedure and following it. Software itself won't be compliant, it's how you use the software and how you've documented how to control documents using the software that matters. You can be iso 9001 compliant with physical copies, you can use visual source safe to manage documents (please don't).. what really matters is that you have a procedure for managing documents and that you follow it.
The point I was trying to make about robots.txt was't that it would make it illegal (I really doubt it does), it's that there wasn't one to even suggest that the pages shouldn't be crawled. There was nothing to prevent access and nothing to suggest one shouldn't.
I don't know about you, but if I don't want people looking at my house I'll grow a huge hedge so people have to trespass to see it. If I don't want people to access my webpages I'll make them private so they have to hack or have an account to see them (in which case they are either violating the law or TOS).
Facebook probably got exactly what they wanted. The guy crumbled under the first legal threat. Anyone can make a legal threat and even have lawyers deliver said threat. It doesn't mean the threat is legitimate.
I'm guessing he created an account at some point and by that agreed to the TOS.
I assumed otherwise, but yes that could have been the case (I'm assuming neither of us RTFM).
I still don't see it as a contract.
That's the fun of law. If you can successfully argue that there was no consideration (something of value exchanged for something else of value), then yeah there was no contract. I think that is a more difficult argument than assuming he didn't create an account. If I were a researcher I would have just accessed public data for my research.
They are free to cancel his account for violating the terms, of course.
Yep, assuming he has one. I question what other damages could be assessed anyhow. What actual damage was done by his research? It's definitely not libelous so what else is left?
Even if a judge could be convinced punitive damages are in order (i.e. he needs to be punished for his actions.. in this case using publicly viewable data for research and publishing said research) then it should be nominal. It's not as though he was trying to put himself above the law (his actions weren't egregious).
Not really a meaningful distinction, as contract law is very much an aspect of the law.
If he was using an account I could see there being a contract enforceable (e.g. if you except these terms of service we will give you an account). If he was just crawling publicly viewable facebook pages, then what is the consideration? I'd argue there is none and therefor no contract exists. You aren't forced to login to view many pages and it's not like they even have a click through "I agree" TOS on each publicly viewable page. He broke no laws and there is no enforceable contract.
If facebook doesn't want people crawling pages publicly viewable pages then make them private (loging in required) or at least have a robots.txt that prohibits crawling of those pages.
it's 4 dimensional objects projected into a 3 dimensional space projected onto a 2 dimensional plane.
Exactly. You are just viewing a different 3rd dimension projection of the 4 dimensional objects (which of course is projected to a 2D representation so it is viewable screen). Projections are covered in first year matrix and linear algebra classes.
If NASA does find a problem, then Toyota can say -- "It was such a subtle problem, it took NASA's resources and expertise to find and fix it."
Of course that's just a media spin. If NASA finds an issue I doubt any amount of PR propaganda will save Toyota's stock prices and sales numbers from plummeting.
Toyota has burned a lot of customer goodwill and has spent a lot of their brand equity in the last few years. My prediction is they will start offering even bigger rebates and incentives than they are now in order to keep their market share.
Or maybe they are nostalgic, or maybe they like the physical medium (i.e. packaging with artwork and liner notes, the physical aspect of setting up a record and having to flip it).
I have a pretty decent vinyl collection. Yeah, CDs in general are a lot more reliable but vinyl is fun. For some reason flipping through records is a lot more fun than CDs. Listeing to music only vinyl is more of a ceremony than with CDs or pure digital formats (mp3s, flacs etc). Ever sat around with your friends, a stack of records and a bottle of fine hard liquor? Doing the same with mp3s or cds just isn't the same.
I know it's a troll, but I have to ask:
What about LOTR and the Hobbit would attract homosexually oriented nerds more than straight nerds?
I really don't remember anything gay about the books. Ohhhh.. were you referring to the movies? You can thank Peter Jackson for that. I can assure you Tolkien had nothing to do with the perceived "gayness" of the films.
Android runs fine on Arm and something like the Beagle Board can decode HD fine, has lower power consumption and costs less per chip. I wonder why they would choose to go with a higher cost higher power consumption chip.
Of course the caveat to using mice to judge how a gene affects long-term development of cancer is that there really is no "long-term" on a human scale in mouse studies, since they only live about 3 years at most.
She was an english major so I forgave her for being tricked into joining a MLM scam.
So, what you're saying is that the sex was non-existent?
Nope. I'm saying I forgave her for the stupidity and wrote it off as an english major thing (if she was smart she'd be doing a degree that could get her a job, or at least be planning on grad school). It's amazing how much stupid one can put up with in exchange for sex.
"You did what?!"
"Never mind just come to bed."
"OK"
Of course I married someone smart. It's great that the sex is good now, but you have to plan for your future because at the end of the day and when your libidos have hit rock bottom what you really need someone who can hold an intelligent conversation.
I had a girlfriend trick me into going to a quixtar meeting when they first started it up (forget the ploy she used, but she definitely wasn't up front about where we were going). Part way into the opening pitch I click, "WTF, you brought me to a amway meeting?!"
Her: "No, it's quixtar. It's totally different."
Me: "Ah.... no. It's not."
She was an english major so I forgave her for being tricked into joining a MLM scam.
It was more like watching a guy plug in a usb cable.
But the guy fails to get to get the usb to plug in the first time, rotates it, tries again then figures out he had it the right way the first time.
I'm guessing that guy doesn't have a girlfriend, because if he's as good in bed as he is at putting computers together.... "Ooops ooops ooops. This time it will work. Ooops."
I believe Bill took the concept from Steve who took the concept from Xerox
And Xerox PARC took the researchers from SRI who had been working on bit-mapped displays, collaboration software, hypertext, precursors to the graphical user interface and of course the computer mouse. That was the 60s.
If you get asks to fix a computer just say, "Sorry I'm too busy hacking government computers to prove UFOs exist."
And when they ask about the proof simply say, "I'm gonna blow this thing wide open. At this point I can risk information in others hands. It puts us both at risk.. I've already said too much. I gotta run."
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I strongly agree that developers need their own office with a door. There are times as a dev when you need to close the door and have no distractions for a few hours straight. A personal office allows that.
At my work R&D has offices in a circle around a shared bench area. If you want to collaborate you can go to the center area or use someone's office. If you want to listen in you just have to leave your door open. If you need some privacy and no distractions you can close your door. Best of all worlds.
Exactly. ISO 9001 is about having a documented procedure and following it. Software itself won't be compliant, it's how you use the software and how you've documented how to control documents using the software that matters. You can be iso 9001 compliant with physical copies, you can use visual source safe to manage documents (please don't).. what really matters is that you have a procedure for managing documents and that you follow it.
The point I was trying to make about robots.txt was't that it would make it illegal (I really doubt it does), it's that there wasn't one to even suggest that the pages shouldn't be crawled. There was nothing to prevent access and nothing to suggest one shouldn't.
I don't know about you, but if I don't want people looking at my house I'll grow a huge hedge so people have to trespass to see it. If I don't want people to access my webpages I'll make them private so they have to hack or have an account to see them (in which case they are either violating the law or TOS).
Facebook probably got exactly what they wanted. The guy crumbled under the first legal threat. Anyone can make a legal threat and even have lawyers deliver said threat. It doesn't mean the threat is legitimate.
I'm guessing he created an account at some point and by that agreed to the TOS.
I assumed otherwise, but yes that could have been the case (I'm assuming neither of us RTFM).
I still don't see it as a contract.
That's the fun of law. If you can successfully argue that there was no consideration (something of value exchanged for something else of value), then yeah there was no contract. I think that is a more difficult argument than assuming he didn't create an account. If I were a researcher I would have just accessed public data for my research.
They are free to cancel his account for violating the terms, of course.
Yep, assuming he has one. I question what other damages could be assessed anyhow. What actual damage was done by his research? It's definitely not libelous so what else is left?
Even if a judge could be convinced punitive damages are in order (i.e. he needs to be punished for his actions.. in this case using publicly viewable data for research and publishing said research) then it should be nominal. It's not as though he was trying to put himself above the law (his actions weren't egregious).
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Not really a meaningful distinction, as contract law is very much an aspect of the law.
If he was using an account I could see there being a contract enforceable (e.g. if you except these terms of service we will give you an account). If he was just crawling publicly viewable facebook pages, then what is the consideration? I'd argue there is none and therefor no contract exists. You aren't forced to login to view many pages and it's not like they even have a click through "I agree" TOS on each publicly viewable page. He broke no laws and there is no enforceable contract.
If facebook doesn't want people crawling pages publicly viewable pages then make them private (loging in required) or at least have a robots.txt that prohibits crawling of those pages.
it's 4 dimensional objects projected into a 3 dimensional space projected onto a 2 dimensional plane.
Exactly. You are just viewing a different 3rd dimension projection of the 4 dimensional objects (which of course is projected to a 2D representation so it is viewable screen). Projections are covered in first year matrix and linear algebra classes.
If NASA does find a problem, then Toyota can say -- "It was such a subtle problem, it took NASA's resources and expertise to find and fix it."
Of course that's just a media spin. If NASA finds an issue I doubt any amount of PR propaganda will save Toyota's stock prices and sales numbers from plummeting.
Toyota has burned a lot of customer goodwill and has spent a lot of their brand equity in the last few years. My prediction is they will start offering even bigger rebates and incentives than they are now in order to keep their market share.
Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.
Or maybe they are nostalgic, or maybe they like the physical medium (i.e. packaging with artwork and liner notes, the physical aspect of setting up a record and having to flip it).
I have a pretty decent vinyl collection. Yeah, CDs in general are a lot more reliable but vinyl is fun. For some reason flipping through records is a lot more fun than CDs. Listeing to music only vinyl is more of a ceremony than with CDs or pure digital formats (mp3s, flacs etc). Ever sat around with your friends, a stack of records and a bottle of fine hard liquor? Doing the same with mp3s or cds just isn't the same.
Wrong audience. You should take your proposal to a science fiction writer's convention.
That was a L. Ron Hubbard reference (in case that wasn't obvious). Should have gone with the Tom Cruise angle...
Wrong audience. You should take your proposal to a science fiction writer's convention.
I know it's a troll, but I have to ask:
What about LOTR and the Hobbit would attract homosexually oriented nerds more than straight nerds?
I really don't remember anything gay about the books. Ohhhh.. were you referring to the movies? You can thank Peter Jackson for that. I can assure you Tolkien had nothing to do with the perceived "gayness" of the films.
Can't have a discussion of the hobbit without the Bilbo Baggins song.
Android runs fine on Arm and something like the Beagle Board can decode HD fine, has lower power consumption and costs less per chip. I wonder why they would choose to go with a higher cost higher power consumption chip.
You can even stick it on your monitor!
That's no good. What if it falls off?
Even sticking a post-it under the keyboard won't do. Safest would be writing the password on the beige crt monitor bezel using a jiffy marker.
All joking aside I've seen it done. Not sure what happens if the password changes. Whiteout?
As a legal immigrant I can tell you that the hassle to be legal is so high that sometimes I wonder if I should just stop bothering and become illegal
How about moving to a different country? There are countries with less hoops to jump through if you are educated.
I think they mean 'adult material'.
Man, I was hoping for chinese cooking shows.
How am I supposed to learn how to make dumplings from porn?
Of course the caveat to using mice to judge how a gene affects long-term development of cancer is that there really is no "long-term" on a human scale in mouse studies, since they only live about 3 years at most.
Time to bring out the monkeys.
So, what you're saying is that the sex was non-existent?
Nope. I'm saying I forgave her for the stupidity and wrote it off as an english major thing (if she was smart she'd be doing a degree that could get her a job, or at least be planning on grad school). It's amazing how much stupid one can put up with in exchange for sex.
"You did what?!"
"Never mind just come to bed."
"OK"
Of course I married someone smart. It's great that the sex is good now, but you have to plan for your future because at the end of the day and when your libidos have hit rock bottom what you really need someone who can hold an intelligent conversation.
Is that you Amway?
Or maybe Quixtar?
I had a girlfriend trick me into going to a quixtar meeting when they first started it up (forget the ploy she used, but she definitely wasn't up front about where we were going). Part way into the opening pitch I click, "WTF, you brought me to a amway meeting?!"
Her: "No, it's quixtar. It's totally different."
Me: "Ah.... no. It's not."
She was an english major so I forgave her for being tricked into joining a MLM scam.
It was more like watching a guy plug in a usb cable.
But the guy fails to get to get the usb to plug in the first time, rotates it, tries again then figures out he had it the right way the first time.
I'm guessing that guy doesn't have a girlfriend, because if he's as good in bed as he is at putting computers together.... "Ooops ooops ooops. This time it will work. Ooops."
Be careful.. unless you want to disappear in a puff of logic.
I believe Bill took the concept from Steve who took the concept from Xerox
And Xerox PARC took the researchers from SRI who had been working on bit-mapped displays, collaboration software, hypertext, precursors to the graphical user interface and of course the computer mouse. That was the 60s.
Well it's easy enough to fix if it does slip out.
If you get asks to fix a computer just say, "Sorry I'm too busy hacking government computers to prove UFOs exist."
And when they ask about the proof simply say, "I'm gonna blow this thing wide open. At this point I can risk information in others hands. It puts us both at risk.. I've already said too much. I gotta run."