Read that line again and note that I said "tried" (maybe I should have put emphasis on the tried). And I had thought when they announced their price it was lower than the current 30GB Ipod (but Apple dropped their price and MS wouldn't go lower).
In marketing they call this differentiation. Differentiation is important to gain market share. Differentiation is the modification of a product to make it more attractive to the target market. Microsoft does not want the Zune to appear like the Ipod to people, they want it to seem as unique as possible (while still appealing to the same market).
In my opinion they have done a decent job of differentiation base on the marketing mix: price, promotion, product and place/distribution. They have definitely tried on the price by announcing an entry price lower than the Ipod. With the product they have introduced (and actually implemented, surprising for MS) new features and made changes in a crowded segment. They have not copied Apple in the promotion of the Zune and have had somewhat of an underground following. As for distribution? I have no idea.. but the only way to differentiate from Apple on that would be to make it hard to get, and that would be a bad idea:P.
There is no moderation too high for your post. I mean give me a fucking break, there ARE plenty of geek women (ones that have made real contributions) but they resort to fictional characters and non-geeks. Paris Hilton? She would be on the top of my list of non-geeks. I don't care if she plays video games, there are primates that can play video games!!!! I really truly hope that Paris is not a role model to any inteligent girl, you should set the bar a little higher (and find a pool that is a little less shallow).
Let me guess: it was "budget constraints" that led to using something unsuitable that ruined the project. Decent idea, but it isn't quite affordable enough so they makes cuts to fit in into the budget, making the project financially feasible but guaranteeing the overall failure off the project. Seems like something straight out of a Dilbert comic.
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That is true. I've had a much easier time doing table based sites that extend to the full width of the browser.
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You shouldn't have posted anon (your post might go under the radar).
I agree with everything you said. I'd just like to add that many people want to look for excuses not to learn CSS. If you are doing a quick one up site, sure do it the quickest way possible (nvu or dreamweaver using tables), but if it is something that is to last the stays of time CSS is soo much more flexible. If you didn't check out the csszengarden link then do so now. All the designs have the exact same html. The only thing changed between designs is the style sheet and images. You can change the entire look of a site w/o changing any of the html or you can have multiple different representations for different presentation media or for different viewers (think of people that have poor vision or are blind for example, cell phone users etc). It's worth learning before you discount its use on a project.
As a pianist I enjoy the feel of the buckling spring keyboards, although I haven't owned one in years. I might compare it to the difference between a classic piano and a electronic substitue: there's an intricate tactical sensation when playing on an acoustic piano due to the mechanics. But that may be going to far on drawing a parallel. I also find that I can't type as fast with some of the squishy quiet keyboards. There is an exact point at which the key is pressed that I can recognize with the old clicky keyboards that is consistent, while with the squishy ones I am never sure if I hit it right.. something like that. Of course now I rarely play a real piano and rarely used a clicky keyboard, so it may just be nostalgia. There's a lot to be said for tactile feel though, I love the feeling of putting a minidisk into a player, or a 3.5" floppy into a drive.
That was brought up locally (I'm a Victorian) and the arguement is the public urination problem in the downtown core is due to male urination not female, hence the focus on male urination. I am sure the standup urinals could be used by adventureous females, the same ones who would actually go squat in an alley (face away from urinal and bend over slightly?).
In all honesty it is not fair, but it is an ends to a mean. The organisers only care about preventing more public urination, not making it easier for all people to find a public facility. And if you want to talk about discrimination the system also discriminates against those who have to take a #2. Luckily Victoria doesn't have a public defecation problem so that wasn't considered either.
In Canada it can get jiggy with other encryption technology as long as it isn't >5years senior (and was able to last year as well). It'll have to wait until 16 to consent for any age and 18 if it is interested in encryption with influential power over them. I'm not sure if there are laws about related algorithms. In my neck of the woods we don't code that way.
In case someone doesn't get that my post isn't a troll and is infact funny: apple can't return them regardless of having a reciept (haha get it) and apple is good at doing numbers. They have some savvy business people. If they forcast enough sales to justify production that large, then they are pretty sure.
Chuck or Marsyas. And it would probably be easier to do something more complicated such as use samples, have multiple threads (well shreds in chuck, you spork a shred) and do other fun stuff. Worth checking both out if you are into playing with audio (chuck has binaries for win and osx, source for linux, while marsyas is compile only).
My comment had nothing to do with work, it had to do with going to school. You don't do a 4 year degree to "put food on the table", especially in something that you dislike (good luck even getting through the degree). Yeah, in real life you do what it takes to put food on the table, but most people do that with the hope of going back to what they enjoy (which may or may not happen). If you study an area you aren't into, well then there is little chance to escape from doing something you do not enjoy since that is what you have to fall back on (unless you want to take a low paying job that doesn't take advantage of your degree).
Seriously the best advice anyone could give someone starting out is find what you like and do it well. To take philosophy as an example: mediocre performance will end you with a useless degree, great performance will get you into grad school and further and possibly take you into other related subject areas, and you will be sucessful (whether you stay in accademia or use your degree in some more conventional role). Same goes for CS. If you are into it, you will do poorly and that will have an affect on your success. Too many people are looking for the magic bullit of a degree, that they just have to get through it and then they are guaranteed big money.
Since I'm already ranting.. As long as someone is going into CS, they should diversify a bit. I took a business minor which I am already finding quite usefull, anything to do with writing and communication can't hurt, there are often degrees combined with different sciences (makes it easier to work in certain fields), my school even offers a music/compsci combined degree (not sure about the applications, but they all seem to be having fun). As I mentioned in another post, health care is going to be big since the population is aging, so you can get a degree combining that with CS. My GF is graduating with a BS in nursing, and she is guaranteed a job (she has a good amount of choices as well).
I thought I was good at math until I hit university (I even did extra calc classes in HS). In all honesty some of the better programmers I know aren't all so good at math (good enough to pass the math requirements to get their degree however, which is a lot better than joe avg). The topic came up on the local LUG mailing list, and the consensus seemed to be that the more math the better. Sure there are areas where you can get away with having little math knowledge, but the cool stuff involves some math (depends or your definition of cool).
I think if I were to recomend an area to someone just heading into school considering CSC, I'd say go with either health information science (health fields are booming, and it can satisfy your tech craving by doing a double major or general/minor in CS), or engineering, as it is more well rounded and you will have more options.
Yes, yes, yes. Do NOT repeat NOT go into a field you are not interested in. There is no point in going into CompSci for the money at this point, even with the possibility of labour shortages. I am a few months away from gradding with a major in CSc and my best recommendation is: don't do it unless you love it. I know too many students that hate programming, and generally dislike everything in the field other than playing with computers. They got into it because they thought it would be easy and pay well. If you sound like one of those people, don't do it, you'll hate doing the degree and when you are done you won't want to work in the field for the amount of money you are going to be starting at (which will be low since as an unmotivated student your abilities will be lacking to say the least).
Do go into computer science if:
you love math (I don't mean you did well at it in HS, I mean you enjoyed it and would learn more on your own)
you have programmed and found it fun and interesting (not you tried it and thought it was easy, or did pretty good in some course)
you are a strong problem solver
If you want to make money, go into business. Sciences are best suited for people who love the science and aren't worried about the wage. If you aren't sure, take a few courses first year in different areas and see what inspires you.
Exactly. Minor is not defined. What is a minor in one country is not the same in another. In Canada a 19 year old can have sex with a 17 year old w/o fear of a statutory rape charge, but that isn't the case in the 'states (to the best of my knowledge).
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Read that line again and note that I said "tried" (maybe I should have put emphasis on the tried). And I had thought when they announced their price it was lower than the current 30GB Ipod (but Apple dropped their price and MS wouldn't go lower).
"..the WiFi feature will be a difference-maker.."
:P.
In marketing they call this differentiation. Differentiation is important to gain market share. Differentiation is the modification of a product to make it more attractive to the target market. Microsoft does not want the Zune to appear like the Ipod to people, they want it to seem as unique as possible (while still appealing to the same market).
In my opinion they have done a decent job of differentiation base on the marketing mix: price, promotion, product and place/distribution. They have definitely tried on the price by announcing an entry price lower than the Ipod. With the product they have introduced (and actually implemented, surprising for MS) new features and made changes in a crowded segment. They have not copied Apple in the promotion of the Zune and have had somewhat of an underground following. As for distribution? I have no idea.. but the only way to differentiate from Apple on that would be to make it hard to get, and that would be a bad idea
So items break down so that I buy more of them?
Hmm, that may explain why my small town family doctor keeps hitting people with his car.
..sale systems..
Wow, just got a great idea: They could put Walmarts on large container ships and use the everyday low prices to offset the high price of fuel.
There is no moderation too high for your post. I mean give me a fucking break, there ARE plenty of geek women (ones that have made real contributions) but they resort to fictional characters and non-geeks. Paris Hilton? She would be on the top of my list of non-geeks. I don't care if she plays video games, there are primates that can play video games!!!! I really truly hope that Paris is not a role model to any inteligent girl, you should set the bar a little higher (and find a pool that is a little less shallow).
..everyone having an IQ of 300, being able to sleep 4 hours a week..
Bye bye capitalism and hello socialism.
Let me guess: it was "budget constraints" that led to using something unsuitable that ruined the project. Decent idea, but it isn't quite affordable enough so they makes cuts to fit in into the budget, making the project financially feasible but guaranteeing the overall failure off the project. Seems like something straight out of a Dilbert comic.
That is true. I've had a much easier time doing table based sites that extend to the full width of the browser.
You shouldn't have posted anon (your post might go under the radar).
I agree with everything you said. I'd just like to add that many people want to look for excuses not to learn CSS. If you are doing a quick one up site, sure do it the quickest way possible (nvu or dreamweaver using tables), but if it is something that is to last the stays of time CSS is soo much more flexible. If you didn't check out the csszengarden link then do so now. All the designs have the exact same html. The only thing changed between designs is the style sheet and images. You can change the entire look of a site w/o changing any of the html or you can have multiple different representations for different presentation media or for different viewers (think of people that have poor vision or are blind for example, cell phone users etc). It's worth learning before you discount its use on a project.
Oops. Means to and end, or end justifies the mean, surprised I didn't get flamed on my messed up idiom.
As a pianist I enjoy the feel of the buckling spring keyboards, although I haven't owned one in years. I might compare it to the difference between a classic piano and a electronic substitue: there's an intricate tactical sensation when playing on an acoustic piano due to the mechanics. But that may be going to far on drawing a parallel. I also find that I can't type as fast with some of the squishy quiet keyboards. There is an exact point at which the key is pressed that I can recognize with the old clicky keyboards that is consistent, while with the squishy ones I am never sure if I hit it right.. something like that. Of course now I rarely play a real piano and rarely used a clicky keyboard, so it may just be nostalgia. There's a lot to be said for tactile feel though, I love the feeling of putting a minidisk into a player, or a 3.5" floppy into a drive.
That was brought up locally (I'm a Victorian) and the arguement is the public urination problem in the downtown core is due to male urination not female, hence the focus on male urination. I am sure the standup urinals could be used by adventureous females, the same ones who would actually go squat in an alley (face away from urinal and bend over slightly?).
In all honesty it is not fair, but it is an ends to a mean. The organisers only care about preventing more public urination, not making it easier for all people to find a public facility. And if you want to talk about discrimination the system also discriminates against those who have to take a #2. Luckily Victoria doesn't have a public defecation problem so that wasn't considered either.
Maybe it bounced.
Or maybe they can merge with the Canadian gun registry.
In Canada it can get jiggy with other encryption technology as long as it isn't >5years senior (and was able to last year as well). It'll have to wait until 16 to consent for any age and 18 if it is interested in encryption with influential power over them. I'm not sure if there are laws about related algorithms. In my neck of the woods we don't code that way.
In case someone doesn't get that my post isn't a troll and is infact funny: apple can't return them regardless of having a reciept (haha get it) and apple is good at doing numbers. They have some savvy business people. If they forcast enough sales to justify production that large, then they are pretty sure.
Yeah that's quite a few. I hope they kept the receipt.
I took "Star Wars virgin takes the plunge" as: someone finally poured hot grits down Natalie Portman's pants.
Chuck or Marsyas. And it would probably be easier to do something more complicated such as use samples, have multiple threads (well shreds in chuck, you spork a shred) and do other fun stuff. Worth checking both out if you are into playing with audio (chuck has binaries for win and osx, source for linux, while marsyas is compile only).
s/if you are into it,/if you aren't into it/
My comment had nothing to do with work, it had to do with going to school. You don't do a 4 year degree to "put food on the table", especially in something that you dislike (good luck even getting through the degree). Yeah, in real life you do what it takes to put food on the table, but most people do that with the hope of going back to what they enjoy (which may or may not happen). If you study an area you aren't into, well then there is little chance to escape from doing something you do not enjoy since that is what you have to fall back on (unless you want to take a low paying job that doesn't take advantage of your degree).
Seriously the best advice anyone could give someone starting out is find what you like and do it well. To take philosophy as an example: mediocre performance will end you with a useless degree, great performance will get you into grad school and further and possibly take you into other related subject areas, and you will be sucessful (whether you stay in accademia or use your degree in some more conventional role). Same goes for CS. If you are into it, you will do poorly and that will have an affect on your success. Too many people are looking for the magic bullit of a degree, that they just have to get through it and then they are guaranteed big money.
Since I'm already ranting.. As long as someone is going into CS, they should diversify a bit. I took a business minor which I am already finding quite usefull, anything to do with writing and communication can't hurt, there are often degrees combined with different sciences (makes it easier to work in certain fields), my school even offers a music/compsci combined degree (not sure about the applications, but they all seem to be having fun). As I mentioned in another post, health care is going to be big since the population is aging, so you can get a degree combining that with CS. My GF is graduating with a BS in nursing, and she is guaranteed a job (she has a good amount of choices as well).
I thought I was good at math until I hit university (I even did extra calc classes in HS). In all honesty some of the better programmers I know aren't all so good at math (good enough to pass the math requirements to get their degree however, which is a lot better than joe avg). The topic came up on the local LUG mailing list, and the consensus seemed to be that the more math the better. Sure there are areas where you can get away with having little math knowledge, but the cool stuff involves some math (depends or your definition of cool).
I think if I were to recomend an area to someone just heading into school considering CSC, I'd say go with either health information science (health fields are booming, and it can satisfy your tech craving by doing a double major or general/minor in CS), or engineering, as it is more well rounded and you will have more options.
Do go into computer science if:
If you want to make money, go into business. Sciences are best suited for people who love the science and aren't worried about the wage. If you aren't sure, take a few courses first year in different areas and see what inspires you.
Exactly. Minor is not defined. What is a minor in one country is not the same in another. In Canada a 19 year old can have sex with a 17 year old w/o fear of a statutory rape charge, but that isn't the case in the 'states (to the best of my knowledge).