I agree. That's like printing out a web page so you can read it.
Even better: Last week my mother printed out a web page and snail-mailed it to me... When I asked her why she didn't just e-mail me the link, she replied "I forgot I could do that".
Well that is the answer to his question. Windows is actually quite stable now, on par with Linux. Especially if you set it up correctly so the Hyper-V system is the only thing running on the Master and use the other Virtual OS's as the systems that can bomb.
Really? I don't have to setup my Linux boxes so that KVM is the only thing running--and I still manage to go approximately 10 months before I need to reboot because of security updates. It'd be 'never' if I bothered to go the ksplice route...
That is a lot of hate for something you obviously do not know a lot about.
GP was mistaken. The command is actually Add-PSSnapin and the specific command could be written as
Add-PSSnapin VMware.VimAutomation.Core
Note how no parameter names or quotes were necessary (but still allowed).
I have used it enough when dealing with Exchange to realize it has absurdly long commands and parameters regardless of how the original poster screwed up his example.
No, that would merely set up completion. A PowerShell snapin is actually a module which can have private namespaces to avoid collision in a global namespace, it can define new drives and providers etc. It is much more than completion. In fact, completion has nothing to do with it, completion will work even for script files which define parameters without any completion registration.
It seems like completion to me. You obviously know Linux too--so after I've done an {apt-get install | yum install | etc...} a program would be available for basic autocompletion like vmware in this example. You could type new[tab] and find new-vm. If the application installed autocompletion files, you could autocomplete parameters too without having to type in special load statements in bash.
In Windows it appears (at least from that example) that you have to install the program, then tell it to specifically load vmware related commands, objects, or whatever. I'm not saying it's a huge sticking point, but it appears to take much more work to define your automation in Windows verses Linux.
PowerShell is just being extremely consistent, something Unix could learn a lot from! And PowerShell usually takes fewer keystrokes.
As an example: I can only think of one utility in Linux that doesn't use '-r' for recursive actions on files. 'ls' uses '-R' for recursion and '-r' for reverse sort.
Don't be fooled when someone shows you a command and spells out all of the parameter names in full. That is usually just because they tab-completed them. PowerShell supports both consistent shortening of parameter names, parameter aliases as well as positional parameters.
I suppose you can type '--recursion' or '--recurse' in Linux.
All of these in a very consistent and predictable way. This even goes for your own scripts and functions. PowerShell automatically infers parameter names from the command definition - i.e. there is no need to register external completion. You need to do the latter in traditional shells because the commands lacks parameter metadata.
Either one can be stuck into a script and double-clicked on a new machine I suppose. I've never played around with Microsoft's SMS tools because they are ridiculously expensive--but with Puppet, Chef, CFEngine, etc... I can easily write 15 lines in Puppet that allow me to manage any postfix options. Another 10 lines and I can setup classes of machines for specific postfix configurations like spam filtering for crappy Exchange 2003 servers, full-on mail servers, mail relays, etc...
To automate our Postfix spam filter deployments, I setup a reference machine and tested it. Then I configured puppet and used a virtual machine to test my configuration making a few tweaks here and there. Finally I deployed a second live machine using my puppet con
The only way that Microsoft can improve Windows at this point is to make it run well on virtual machines so that it can be a little bit easier to migrate away from.
You might be modded 'troll', but that's exactly what we're doing. The infrastructure at a majority of our clients is Linux on the servers, NAS', routers, firewalls, mail servers, etc... Where Windows is required, it runs in a VM on a linux box.
Linux is HORRIFIC at programatic configuration, you cannot lie about this.
How am I able to deploy Linux mail servers / spam filters to our customers in under 45 minutes using a ton of automation, yet it still takes me days to get their Exchange servers online? I spend most of the time installing updates and hunting for cryptic powershell commands just so I can increase the 10 MB e-mail limit in the 7 different places Microsoft imposes that limit.
I'm not saying it can't be automated, it's just a major pain in the ass--oh, and the 'reference' or 'test' box you are going to use to setup your initial automation will cost you thousands in licensing costs.
If SSH is your idea of remote automation heaven, then I hate to tell you, but you can install that on Windows.
Installing SSH on Windows is nearly useless because their CLI is nearly useless. Who wants to access such a limited interface?
programmatically is KEY. This SSH + messy nondeterministic CLI bullcrap doesn't cut it.
Really? How's Amazon doing it? Are they running Windows Servers to provide their cloud services?
How about Google? I seem to remember them mentioning something about Windows being too cumbersome to support their operations.
Remember Hotmail before Microsoft bought it? All running BSD. Then do you remember the hilarity when Microsoft bought it, there was a ton of downtime, and their engineers accidentally leaked the document saying that it would be prohibitively expensive (millions) for a company to built a service like hotmail with Microsoft's overpriced software?
Sorry, but you home Linux admins that think Linux is the tits needs to wake up.
I did--now I 'admin' linux servers commercially.
The other guy on my team was just required to switch from managing a stratus running Linux to an entirely Windows environment. He used to have evenings and weekends free, now his pager is going off constantly due to bluescreens, crashes, failed updates, hangs, etc... He turned in his notice after 10 years because of the abomination of managing Windows in an industrial environment.
At least document fucking return codes, and do something useful with them if you can't write out something parseable!
0 = good
Anything else = bad
That wasn't so hard, was it?;)
Sun got that much right for Chirst's sake, and Linux fanbois like to pretend their are working on a UNIX system. Want an example??
man yum, tell me how you would know if a package installed or not when I do "yum -y update foo"
I can't answer that one. I don't mess with RedHat and it's ilk.
That is the bullcrap I'm talking about. OS updates... not exactly some obscure interface huh?
#Load VMWare snap-in for powershell
LoadSnapin -PSSnapinName "VMware.VimAutomation.Core"
That showcases everything I hate about powershell right there.
If it were linux, the command would be somethign like "./etc/bash_completion.d/vmware"
What the hell is with PowerShell and switches to commands? It's like someone said "How can we possibly give users RSI by using our new interface? I've got it!! Type 700% more than they do in Linux!"
What I've never understood is why MS didn't just make the Sysinternals 'Process Explorer' the default task manager
Or even better--in this day and age, why aren't the SysInternals tools pre-packaged into an MSI for easy deployment to machines complete with a %PATH% modifier so you can just push and run...?
You might be able to get a consulting gig that way, or even a "real" job with a company that has 1 to 5 employees; but as soon as the company is large enough to have "an accountant" (which is pretty fucking small!), you can simply FORGET that idea, fucktard.
Hostile much?
'Small Businesses' employ over 50% of the US workforce. It's easy.
My guess is this will go from "great, safe option" to "suggested" to "merged with your SSN and required" to "Used to search for and track 'potential domestic terrorists'".
Probably won't take too long either.
How in the hell did you get rated 'Flamebait'?!? Seriously--Your Social Security Number went from being a 'social insurance' number, to your taxpayer ID, and now it's required pretty much everywhere--bank accounts, new jobs, car loans, doctors appointments, etc......and it started out with very strong language that it was *only* to be used for social security...
Except that it is. What I quoted is the entirety of the text of the second amendment, and it's pretty unambiguous.
They why didn't they say "The right of the people to keep and bear arms while in defense of the state shall not be infringed, but at all other times the state can disarm you."?
If you're so knowledgeable on the subject, why don't you know what the 'founding fathers' wrote about why they put that in the constitution?
This bizarre notion we have in this country that all companies must always be earning more and more every year than before and always growing and profits must be more than any other company is unsustainable.
I think you're missing an important part of capitalism. Companies that are unsustainable (think General Motors) are supposed to (if the Government doesn't meddle) go bankrupt and have their assets purchased for pennies on the dollar by companies that may have a better idea about building a product or creating a service but don't have the capital that the 'big boys' have.
If the world had learned their lesson after Chernobyl, then we would be much further on the way to renewable energies then we are today.
Yeah--like:
burning coal--being fought by environmental nutjobs
burning wood--can't burn the poor trees
hydro power--won't somebody *please* think of the fishes
wind power--Washington State is pretty fscking windy. It's not working here, so it probably won't work elsewhere in significant enough quantities. Also the Kennedy's don't want it off their coast--it would harm their view.
oil and natural gas--still being fought by the nutjobs
solar--no one wants an inefficient 50 acre solar farm in their back yard
nuclear--two major accidents in the last decade pretty much means all the sheep are anti-nuclear, plus who wants a huge cooling tower or 6 in their back yard?
There is no form of energy generation that is clean and without risk.
It is 100% a conflict of interest, and the judge should automatically be recused from ALL file-sharing lawsuits as a result.
All rulings made should be immediately and retroactively reversed.
Then the judge herself needs to pay a HEAVY fine for such inexcusable behavior. The kind of fine that will BREAK HER POCKETBOOK and give incentive for other judges to behave.
It is time our judicial system got a dose of accountability.
But who would hold a judge accountable? Another judge? Surely you jest. There's a reason the second amendment is a part of the united States Constitution...
... but to me, we shouldn't take the shuttles apart until we have a viable replacement that isn't just drawings and a budget meeting. If we dismantle the shuttles, and then the Republicans cut space budget for the new vehicle, we're at the mercy of Russia, China and the EU for the foreseeable future. Bad, bad move without a functioning replacement in the hangar.
We'll only be at the mercy of Russia, China, and the EU if Democrats cut the military budget. The military has it's own launch capabilities.
3. The sale of user's personal data to advertisers. (In the "achieving critical mass" phase, of course, they'll put in a privacy policy that says that they won't do this, but once they have enough users to dominate they'll quietly change the policy.)
Keep authentication and related data in the hands of the user. Use one password everywhere. Make it changeable everywhere by changing it in one place. If a website gets hacked, no one gets your authentication info--guaranteed.
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I agree. That's like printing out a web page so you can read it.
Even better: Last week my mother printed out a web page and snail-mailed it to me... When I asked her why she didn't just e-mail me the link, she replied "I forgot I could do that".
I download that many Linux iso's in a month.
Aah--so how are you liking the new Fedora release?
Well that is the answer to his question. Windows is actually quite stable now, on par with Linux. Especially if you set it up correctly so the Hyper-V system is the only thing running on the Master and use the other Virtual OS's as the systems that can bomb.
Really? I don't have to setup my Linux boxes so that KVM is the only thing running--and I still manage to go approximately 10 months before I need to reboot because of security updates. It'd be 'never' if I bothered to go the ksplice route...
What in the fuck are you two blathering on about?
People buy Macs because they've got hands-down the best GUI in existence today.
And Office for Mac is a far superior product to the Windoze garbage that M$ puts out. Don't forget, it was a Macintosh program first.
Do you honestly think there's a shred of the original mac code left?
That is a lot of hate for something you obviously do not know a lot about.
GP was mistaken. The command is actually Add-PSSnapin and the specific command could be written as
Add-PSSnapin VMware.VimAutomation.Core
Note how no parameter names or quotes were necessary (but still allowed).
I have used it enough when dealing with Exchange to realize it has absurdly long commands and parameters regardless of how the original poster screwed up his example.
No, that would merely set up completion. A PowerShell snapin is actually a module which can have private namespaces to avoid collision in a global namespace, it can define new drives and providers etc. It is much more than completion. In fact, completion has nothing to do with it, completion will work even for script files which define parameters without any completion registration.
It seems like completion to me. You obviously know Linux too--so after I've done an {apt-get install | yum install | etc...} a program would be available for basic autocompletion like vmware in this example. You could type new[tab] and find new-vm. If the application installed autocompletion files, you could autocomplete parameters too without having to type in special load statements in bash.
In Windows it appears (at least from that example) that you have to install the program, then tell it to specifically load vmware related commands, objects, or whatever. I'm not saying it's a huge sticking point, but it appears to take much more work to define your automation in Windows verses Linux.
PowerShell is just being extremely consistent, something Unix could learn a lot from! And PowerShell usually takes fewer keystrokes.
As an example: I can only think of one utility in Linux that doesn't use '-r' for recursive actions on files. 'ls' uses '-R' for recursion and '-r' for reverse sort.
Don't be fooled when someone shows you a command and spells out all of the parameter names in full. That is usually just because they tab-completed them. PowerShell supports both consistent shortening of parameter names, parameter aliases as well as positional parameters.
I suppose you can type '--recursion' or '--recurse' in Linux.
All of these in a very consistent and predictable way. This even goes for your own scripts and functions. PowerShell automatically infers parameter names from the command definition - i.e. there is no need to register external completion. You need to do the latter in traditional shells because the commands lacks parameter metadata.
That's hardly a selling point for automation.
I'd still rather type 'postconf message_size_limit=1000000 mailbox_size_limit=100000000' than something like:
Get-AdSiteLink | Set-AdSiteLink -MaxMessageSize 40MB
Set-TransportConfig -MaxReceiveSize 40MB -MaxSendSize 40MB
Get-RoutingGroupConnector | Set-RoutingGroupConnector -MaxMessageSize 40MB
Get-ReceiveConnector | Set-ReceiveConnector -MaxMessageSize 40MB
Get-SendConnector | Set-SendConnector -MaxMessageSize 40MB
Get-Mailbox | set-mailbox -MaxSendSize 40MB -MaxReceiveSize 40MB
Either one can be stuck into a script and double-clicked on a new machine I suppose. I've never played around with Microsoft's SMS tools because they are ridiculously expensive--but with Puppet, Chef, CFEngine, etc... I can easily write 15 lines in Puppet that allow me to manage any postfix options. Another 10 lines and I can setup classes of machines for specific postfix configurations like spam filtering for crappy Exchange 2003 servers, full-on mail servers, mail relays, etc...
To automate our Postfix spam filter deployments, I setup a reference machine and tested it. Then I configured puppet and used a virtual machine to test my configuration making a few tweaks here and there. Finally I deployed a second live machine using my puppet con
The only way that Microsoft can improve Windows at this point is to make it run well on virtual machines so that it can be a little bit easier to migrate away from.
You might be modded 'troll', but that's exactly what we're doing. The infrastructure at a majority of our clients is Linux on the servers, NAS', routers, firewalls, mail servers, etc... Where Windows is required, it runs in a VM on a linux box.
Linux is HORRIFIC at programatic configuration, you cannot lie about this.
How am I able to deploy Linux mail servers / spam filters to our customers in under 45 minutes using a ton of automation, yet it still takes me days to get their Exchange servers online? I spend most of the time installing updates and hunting for cryptic powershell commands just so I can increase the 10 MB e-mail limit in the 7 different places Microsoft imposes that limit.
I'm not saying it can't be automated, it's just a major pain in the ass--oh, and the 'reference' or 'test' box you are going to use to setup your initial automation will cost you thousands in licensing costs.
If SSH is your idea of remote automation heaven, then I hate to tell you, but you can install that on Windows.
Installing SSH on Windows is nearly useless because their CLI is nearly useless. Who wants to access such a limited interface?
programmatically is KEY. This SSH + messy nondeterministic CLI bullcrap doesn't cut it.
Really? How's Amazon doing it? Are they running Windows Servers to provide their cloud services?
How about Google? I seem to remember them mentioning something about Windows being too cumbersome to support their operations.
Remember Hotmail before Microsoft bought it? All running BSD. Then do you remember the hilarity when Microsoft bought it, there was a ton of downtime, and their engineers accidentally leaked the document saying that it would be prohibitively expensive (millions) for a company to built a service like hotmail with Microsoft's overpriced software?
Sorry, but you home Linux admins that think Linux is the tits needs to wake up.
I did--now I 'admin' linux servers commercially.
The other guy on my team was just required to switch from managing a stratus running Linux to an entirely Windows environment. He used to have evenings and weekends free, now his pager is going off constantly due to bluescreens, crashes, failed updates, hangs, etc... He turned in his notice after 10 years because of the abomination of managing Windows in an industrial environment.
At least document fucking return codes, and do something useful with them if you can't write out something parseable!
0 = good ;)
Anything else = bad
That wasn't so hard, was it?
Sun got that much right for Chirst's sake, and Linux fanbois like to pretend their are working on a UNIX system. Want an example??
man yum, tell me how you would know if a package installed or not when I do "yum -y update foo"
I can't answer that one. I don't mess with RedHat and it's ilk. That is the bullcrap I'm talking about. OS updates... not exactly some obscure interface huh?
#Load VMWare snap-in for powershell
LoadSnapin -PSSnapinName "VMware.VimAutomation.Core"
That showcases everything I hate about powershell right there.
/etc/bash_completion.d/vmware"
If it were linux, the command would be somethign like ".
What the hell is with PowerShell and switches to commands? It's like someone said "How can we possibly give users RSI by using our new interface? I've got it!! Type 700% more than they do in Linux!"
Why not blame those asshats in the world who refuse to live within their means for their actions?
Can we stop the USA bashing for a moment? Sheesh! ;)
What language was that, and what does that mean to all of us who have no clue what that means?
Seriously--I don't barge into a lecture for 7th-year med students and say "WTF?!? What's a ganglia? What kind of language is this?!?!??!!one1."
(especially in this day and age where Google is about 40msec away)
1- I personnally have never lost a single byte of meaningful data
Yep--the moment I accidentally 'rm -rf /', I simply re-classify the drive as 'not containing meaningful data' and my stats are saved.
What I've never understood is why MS didn't just make the Sysinternals 'Process Explorer' the default task manager
Or even better--in this day and age, why aren't the SysInternals tools pre-packaged into an MSI for easy deployment to machines complete with a %PATH% modifier so you can just push and run...?
You might be able to get a consulting gig that way, or even a "real" job with a company that has 1 to 5 employees; but as soon as the company is large enough to have "an accountant" (which is pretty fucking small!), you can simply FORGET that idea, fucktard.
Hostile much?
'Small Businesses' employ over 50% of the US workforce. It's easy.
Have you even tried to get a job lately? Its not easy regardless of your education level. Its particularly hard for us younger people.
You know what works every time? "Pay me under the table and I'll work for minimum wage."
Let's face it--if I have to chose between unemployment and feeding my family, I'll chose to cut out the government every single time.
My guess is this will go from "great, safe option" to "suggested" to "merged with your SSN and required" to "Used to search for and track 'potential domestic terrorists'".
Probably won't take too long either.
How in the hell did you get rated 'Flamebait'?!? Seriously--Your Social Security Number went from being a 'social insurance' number, to your taxpayer ID, and now it's required pretty much everywhere--bank accounts, new jobs, car loans, doctors appointments, etc... ...and it started out with very strong language that it was *only* to be used for social security...
Re:administering networks- Really, how much has TCP/IP
Classless addressing. syn cookies, qos, etc...
or DNS changed significantly (with the possible exception of IP6 actually starting to be used) in the last 20 years?
DNSSEC, EDNS, etc...
Except that it is. What I quoted is the entirety of the text of the second amendment, and it's pretty unambiguous.
They why didn't they say "The right of the people to keep and bear arms while in defense of the state shall not be infringed, but at all other times the state can disarm you."?
If you're so knowledgeable on the subject, why don't you know what the 'founding fathers' wrote about why they put that in the constitution?
This bizarre notion we have in this country that all companies must always be earning more and more every year than before and always growing and profits must be more than any other company is unsustainable.
I think you're missing an important part of capitalism. Companies that are unsustainable (think General Motors) are supposed to (if the Government doesn't meddle) go bankrupt and have their assets purchased for pennies on the dollar by companies that may have a better idea about building a product or creating a service but don't have the capital that the 'big boys' have.
You are a self-hating fuck. If the U.S. sucks so much, why don't you leave and hate on it from somewhere else?
Sorry, the EU is already at their quota of US-haters. He has to stay here for the time being.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Yep. To allow the people to form a militia to defend the state(s) in times of war/unrest.
What has that to do with the topic at hand?
The second amendment is not just about defending the states. Here
If the world had learned their lesson after Chernobyl, then we would be much further on the way to renewable energies then we are today.
Yeah--like: burning coal--being fought by environmental nutjobs
burning wood--can't burn the poor trees
hydro power--won't somebody *please* think of the fishes
wind power--Washington State is pretty fscking windy. It's not working here, so it probably won't work elsewhere in significant enough quantities. Also the Kennedy's don't want it off their coast--it would harm their view.
oil and natural gas--still being fought by the nutjobs
solar--no one wants an inefficient 50 acre solar farm in their back yard
nuclear--two major accidents in the last decade pretty much means all the sheep are anti-nuclear, plus who wants a huge cooling tower or 6 in their back yard?
There is no form of energy generation that is clean and without risk.
"The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999"
In other unrelated news, the FBI has launched their new recruiting campaign...
It is 100% a conflict of interest, and the judge should automatically be recused from ALL file-sharing lawsuits as a result.
All rulings made should be immediately and retroactively reversed.
Then the judge herself needs to pay a HEAVY fine for such inexcusable behavior. The kind of fine that will BREAK HER POCKETBOOK and give incentive for other judges to behave.
It is time our judicial system got a dose of accountability.
But who would hold a judge accountable? Another judge? Surely you jest. There's a reason the second amendment is a part of the united States Constitution...
... but to me, we shouldn't take the shuttles apart until we have a viable replacement that isn't just drawings and a budget meeting. If we dismantle the shuttles, and then the Republicans cut space budget for the new vehicle, we're at the mercy of Russia, China and the EU for the foreseeable future. Bad, bad move without a functioning replacement in the hangar.
We'll only be at the mercy of Russia, China, and the EU if Democrats cut the military budget. The military has it's own launch capabilities.
3. The sale of user's personal data to advertisers. (In the "achieving critical mass" phase, of course, they'll put in a privacy policy that says that they won't do this, but once they have enough users to dominate they'll quietly change the policy.)
Keep authentication and related data in the hands of the user. Use one password everywhere. Make it changeable everywhere by changing it in one place. If a website gets hacked, no one gets your authentication info--guaranteed.
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