would just shit themselves if Japan finally said " Fuck this " and started testing their own ballistic missiles by launching them over the North Korean peninsula and landing them in the South China Sea.
Hell, just to watch the drama unfold, I would even give them a dozen ICBM's to play with were I sitting on a stockpile.
what changed when we made the transition from wireline to wireless. How is it that, by simply changing the method of transmission, we lost so much in the realm of privacy ? ( Location tracking even when disabled, cameras front and back, microphone and fully hackable )
They used the same argument when we switched from physical mail, to the electronic variety. ( Oh, it's stored on third party servers, so it's fair game. Even if stored overseas, they still try to lay claim to it. )
Why is it that I ( supposedly ) cannot be compelled to incriminate myself ( 5th amendment ) yet, I can be forced to provide my fingerprint, face print, whatever, to unlock my phone which may or may not contain incriminating evidence during an overly broad search of an entire building by the FBI ? ( Sans warrant I might add )
Even a fucking pen register required someone to sign off on it. ( Not a warrant, but still had to be approved )
On top of all this, it's unlikely they even bothered to go to the Phone Company for this data. They probably just fired up the damn Stingray and are using the phone records as a nice scapegoat for how they obtained the data in the first place.
Put your tin-foil hat on with me and hang on . . . . .
Now this is going to be giving the government a LOT of credit in the smarts department ( unwarranted in their entire history, but bear with me ).
What if, the removal of Net Neutrality is a litmus test to see how bad things will get once the restrictions are removed ? You know all the big players are salivating at the mere IDEA that they can do as they please once the rules are removed. I'm sure entire Business Strategies are being developed around it. It would be naive for the government not to realize this.
What if the whole thing is designed to see how the players are going to act once they believe no one is watching them any longer ? A test, of sorts, to prove that given the opportunity, the big ISP's absolutely cannot be relied upon to self-govern because their greed knows no limits. Thus, the reason ( and need ) for regulation to begin with. They fuck this up and they'll have nothing to fall back on this time. The Second Coming of the Regulation Hammer will leave few unscathed.
You and I know that those who own the pipes are going to do everything in their power to screw over the competition in favor of their own services. This is practically a given as this was one of the big reasons for establishing NN to begin with.
What if the plan is to use all of the bad behavior we're going to see in the near future as evidence for breaking these behemoth companies up into smaller ones once again ? ( Aka: Divestiture II ) Or, at the very least, use that threat to make sure these idiots don't get too stupid with their heavy-handedness. Pretty sure they'll agree to play nice if the threat of losing their Mono / Duopoly status is at risk.
" This isn't about getting information from a phone. It is about getting information collected by a cell tower. They want info from the phone company, not from you. "
Have to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
Curious if your logic works the same way if we change the mechanism a bit.
Do you think the police need a warrant to peruse through your credit card statements at will or perhaps take a look at your bank accounts whenever they feel the need to ?
Online habits perhaps ?
After all, they want info from the Bank, Credit Card issuer or your ISP, not from you.
The bottom line is this: If you want identifying or detailed information of any kind on an individual, then a warrant shoud be required. Regardless of where the information is stored, it still pertains to an individual.
Perhaps I can toss one more possibility into the pile:
Companies prefer college grads because the majority of them are nearly drowning in debt and will do anything to keep their job ? It's a carrot on a stick thing. Pay the poor desperate college grad just enough to keep them here, but not quite enough to ever get ahead. Thus, ensuring a nice obedient employee to abuse for decades.
Though it is true about the " many companies not wanting to train their employees " these days. My own company makes ~$3B a quarter, give or take, and training of any kind has been non-existent for better than a decade now.
It's more of a: " Here's the new equipment you're going to maintain. Make it work. " setup.
They -HATE- having to report such incidents as it is and only do so because they have to.
Nothing like a glaring spotlight on your front door that says " Your personal information isn't safe with us " to help your customers feel at ease.
Maybe the List of Shame will motivate corporate folks to secure their networks and quit treating their IT / Network Security as an expense instead of an investment.
Maybe.
But I doubt it.
They'll just whine to Congress about how unfair it is that they're getting picked on and how it's hurting their business.
You and I just roll our eyes at such things, but Congress does stupid things when enough bribe . . . . er. . . campaign donations are on the line.
I would expect a silly response from them soon enough.
your sources of information need to be diversified. This is why letting so few companies control what media we have is a bad idea.
One person can effectively make a decision that will determine what information you have access to. That persons personal beliefs -will- play a part in that decision making process. This is how you manipulate folks.
See Fox News ( Republican propaganda ) vs CNN ( Democrat Propaganda ) for extreme examples of this in action. You think the parent companies of either of these don't influence the information they provide ?:|
Ignore the " Russian " part of this story. It is irrelevant. Today they're considering censoring what they claim is " Russian Propaganda ", who knows what it will be tomorrow.
The bottom line is I prefer to have all the information available to me in raw form and I will make up my own damn mind as to what is relevant or not.
"cloud computing is guaranteed to replace personal computing over the next three years"
First: I don't trust the cloud. Until the CEO's are held accountable for data breaches ( eg jail time ) then I will not be trusting my day to day data with any cloud provider.
Second: The US of A is going to have to make some serious improvements in broadband ( I would say at least 100Mbps symmetrical with no data caps ) before this can even become something more than wishful thinking.
Third: My local system will continue to work just fine offline. ISP goes down, or has some crazy troubles, I can still get work done. Not so well if everything I need is online somewhere. I deal with this already on a smaller scale via the VPN I use to connect to the corporate network. My ISP goes stupid, I may as well drive into the office or bust out the smartphone and fire up a tether. Otherwise, no work gets done.
The mega-ISP's certainly aren't going to go along with this without being forced so the whole idea of " replacing desktop computing with a cloud based one " is laughable given the current environment.
not because I'm a bully, but because they're dumb as a fucking rock and the only way they finally get the point to stop asking the same GD questions is if I growl at them.
I don't mind the first question. Second time I'll tell you to write this down. Third time I'll tell you to refer to your notes and anytime after that, I'll probably yell at you for being stupid.
So I'll quit being mean to them when you quit hiring idiots.
So was an Air Force Academy recently until it was found out that the very same person who was pitching a fit about " racism " was also the same person who wrote the slur on the wall to begin with.
Why do we have to keep explaining the same things over and over to the same people ?
Encryption is doing its job if it prevents unauthorized folks from obtaining the data it's protecting. This includes the government. ( Whom no one fully trusts with anything ) Especially the government in some instances.
As leaky as the government is with their own networks and the data that rides them, it would only be a matter of time before any mandated backdoor became semi-public knowledge. At which point the damage that can be done would be epic.
What's " unreasonable " is the government demanding levels of transparency on the people while doing their damndest to hide everything they do under veils of secrecy, NSL's and secret courts. ( All under the guise of 'protecting' us of course. )
Tell you what, we'll give you access to our data, when you give us full access to yours.
Trump has had the stance since day one that the merger wouldn't happen under his administration, so this is expected.
In addition, we need to break these folks up, not let them keep consolidating into ever larger " too big to fail " entities. We have a monopoly problem already, don't need to throw more fuel on the fire.
One giant company shouldn't be allowed to own the content, the pipes and the end mechanism to deliver it all.
Too much power consolidated into too few hands makes it all too easy to sway public opinion in any direction you want. Trump is all too aware of this considering how the media has behaved since the election.
Though I suspect if the TW deal happens, it won't be long before AT&T starts prepping to sell off its wireline services.
How does this work with an actively monitored alarm system ?
They going to call when the delivery driver arrives so you can disarm the alarm ?
I think it would be a better solution to put a remote controlled lockbox on the front porch. Lock / unlock that instead of giving a total stranger access to your home.
You have to pay people enough because if you don't, and they have high level access, they are ripe for recruitment from outside organizations willing to pay them more for the access they have.
Low paid employee won't think twice about it. One with a nice paying job most certainly will.
So on this note, how much access do you all have at your company and where do you sit in the corporate food chain ?
Me, I'm just a faceless employee. One who has enable mode access to nearly every router and switch ( even the core systems ) in the entire company. Scary level of power if you think about it.
Someone has to do the work though and it certainly isn't going to be some executive type who wouldn't know what an enable mode prompt looked like if you threw it at them.
So, many tech companies ( especially the 500lb gorilla sized ones ) don't have a lot of choice.
We can't all be executives and the work still needs to get done.
1) Lack of anything meaningful to watch on it. I think every other station on DirecTV is either an infomercial, religious programming, or in a language I don't even speak. ( Spanish ) The culled down list of channels I flip through is maybe a dozen. Maybe.
2) Monthly cost of said programming far exceeds its value. Far, FAR too expensive for what it is. Cut the cost in half and you might slow the bleeding a bit. For a while anyway. You still need to fix #1 if you plan on having any long term customers.
You may be wondering why I even have the service if I bitch about the lack of programming and its cost. The ONLY reason I still have it is because I get a ludicrous discount on it. All channels sans premiums ( HBO, Max, etc ) costs less than my monthly Netflix account unless I decide to watch some pay per view movies.
I have said it outloud more than once: " There is no way I would ever pay full price for this. "
would just shit themselves if Japan finally said " Fuck this " and started testing their own ballistic missiles by launching them over the North Korean peninsula and landing them in the South China Sea.
Hell, just to watch the drama unfold, I would even give them a dozen ICBM's to play with were I sitting on a stockpile.
what changed when we made the transition from wireline to wireless.
How is it that, by simply changing the method of transmission, we lost so much in the realm of privacy ?
( Location tracking even when disabled, cameras front and back, microphone and fully hackable )
They used the same argument when we switched from physical mail, to the electronic variety.
( Oh, it's stored on third party servers, so it's fair game. Even if stored overseas, they still try to lay claim to it. )
Why is it that I ( supposedly ) cannot be compelled to incriminate myself ( 5th amendment ) yet, I can be forced to provide
my fingerprint, face print, whatever, to unlock my phone which may or may not contain incriminating evidence during an
overly broad search of an entire building by the FBI ? ( Sans warrant I might add )
Even a fucking pen register required someone to sign off on it. ( Not a warrant, but still had to be approved )
On top of all this, it's unlikely they even bothered to go to the Phone Company for this data. They probably just fired up the damn
Stingray and are using the phone records as a nice scapegoat for how they obtained the data in the first place.
Put your tin-foil hat on with me and hang on . . . . .
Now this is going to be giving the government a LOT of credit in the smarts department ( unwarranted in their entire history, but bear with me ).
What if, the removal of Net Neutrality is a litmus test to see how bad things will get once the restrictions are removed ? You know all the big players are salivating at the mere IDEA that they can do as they please once the rules are removed. I'm sure entire Business Strategies are being developed around it. It would be naive for the government not to realize this.
What if the whole thing is designed to see how the players are going to act once they believe no one is watching them any longer ?
A test, of sorts, to prove that given the opportunity, the big ISP's absolutely cannot be relied upon to self-govern because their greed knows no limits. Thus, the reason ( and need ) for regulation to begin with. They fuck this up and they'll have nothing to fall back on this time. The Second Coming of the Regulation Hammer will leave few unscathed.
You and I know that those who own the pipes are going to do everything in their power to screw over the competition in favor of their own services. This is practically a given as this was one of the big reasons for establishing NN to begin with.
What if the plan is to use all of the bad behavior we're going to see in the near future as evidence for breaking these behemoth companies up into smaller ones once again ? ( Aka: Divestiture II ) Or, at the very least, use that threat to make sure these idiots don't get too stupid with their heavy-handedness. Pretty sure they'll agree to play nice if the threat of losing their Mono / Duopoly status is at risk.
Just a fun thought :D
" This isn't about getting information from a phone. It is about getting information collected by a cell tower. They want info from the phone company, not from you. "
Have to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
Curious if your logic works the same way if we change the mechanism a bit.
Do you think the police need a warrant to peruse through your credit card statements at will or perhaps take a look at your bank accounts whenever they feel the need to ?
Online habits perhaps ?
After all, they want info from the Bank, Credit Card issuer or your ISP, not from you.
The bottom line is this: If you want identifying or detailed information of any kind on an individual, then a warrant shoud be required. Regardless of where the information is stored, it still pertains to an individual.
Perhaps I can toss one more possibility into the pile:
Companies prefer college grads because the majority of them are nearly drowning in debt and will do anything to keep their job ? It's a carrot on a stick thing. Pay the poor desperate college grad just enough to keep them here, but not quite enough to ever get ahead. Thus, ensuring a nice obedient employee to abuse for decades.
Though it is true about the " many companies not wanting to train their employees " these days. My own company makes ~$3B a quarter, give or take, and training of any kind has been non-existent for better than a decade now.
It's more of a: " Here's the new equipment you're going to maintain. Make it work. " setup.
That should make you feel all fuzzy inside :D
That the outrage used to be: " $60 for a game ! F**k that ! "
to
" I'm ok with paying $60 for a game but micro-transactions ? F**k that ! "
All the while game developers are quietly giggling to themselves because they don't keep making these things at a loss . . . . .
They -HATE- having to report such incidents as it is and only do so because they have to.
Nothing like a glaring spotlight on your front door that says " Your personal information isn't safe with us " to help your customers feel at ease.
Maybe the List of Shame will motivate corporate folks to secure their networks and quit treating their IT / Network Security as an expense instead of an investment.
Maybe.
But I doubt it.
They'll just whine to Congress about how unfair it is that they're getting picked on and how it's hurting their business.
You and I just roll our eyes at such things, but Congress does stupid things when enough bribe . . . . er. . . campaign donations are on the line.
I would expect a silly response from them soon enough.
Cooking up meth in your basement is also illegal, but there doesn't seem to be any shortage of meth out there does it ?
" Apple only wants to put its stores where the demographics show the best chance of selling their products "
Which isn't nearly as ominous sounding as the race bait bullshit that is all the rage these days.
Swear, if it isn't racist ( which is everything apparently. . . including Math :| ), it's " I was touched by so and so 30 years ago. "
You ever see a Ferarri dealership in a poor neighborhood ? You understand why right ? ( Hint: It has nothing to do with skin color )
your sources of information need to be diversified. This is why letting so few companies control what media we have is a bad idea.
One person can effectively make a decision that will determine what information you have access to. That persons personal beliefs -will- play a part in that decision making process. This is how you manipulate folks.
See Fox News ( Republican propaganda ) vs CNN ( Democrat Propaganda ) for extreme examples of this in action. You think the parent companies of either of these don't influence the information they provide ? :|
Ignore the " Russian " part of this story. It is irrelevant. Today they're considering censoring what they claim is " Russian Propaganda ", who knows what it will be tomorrow.
The bottom line is I prefer to have all the information available to me in raw form and I will make up my own damn mind as to what is relevant or not.
I don't need Google to do it for me.
"cloud computing is guaranteed to replace personal computing over the next three years"
First: I don't trust the cloud. Until the CEO's are held accountable for data breaches ( eg jail time ) then I will not be trusting my day to day data with any cloud provider.
Second: The US of A is going to have to make some serious improvements in broadband ( I would say at least 100Mbps symmetrical with no data caps ) before this can even become something more than wishful thinking.
Third: My local system will continue to work just fine offline. ISP goes down, or has some crazy troubles, I can still get work done. Not so well if everything I need is online somewhere. I deal with this already on a smaller scale via the VPN I use to connect to the corporate network. My ISP goes stupid, I may as well drive into the office or bust out the smartphone and fire up a tether. Otherwise, no work gets done.
The mega-ISP's certainly aren't going to go along with this without being forced so the whole idea of " replacing desktop computing with a cloud based one " is laughable given the current environment.
not because I'm a bully, but because they're dumb as a fucking rock and the only way they finally get the point to stop asking the same GD questions is if I growl at them.
I don't mind the first question. Second time I'll tell you to write this down. Third time I'll tell you to refer to your notes and anytime after that, I'll probably yell at you for being stupid.
So I'll quit being mean to them when you quit hiring idiots.
Every year we hear the story of the Black Friday Brawl. Every year, it's in the same GD place.
Walmart.
"Free can of Pepper Spray for the first 150 shoppers ! "
I think I'll pass on the in store only sales and just shop somewhere else.
You missed the point.
Just because someone claims they are a victim of something, doesn't mean it's always true.
In this day and age, I'm skeptical of any such claims until I see evidence to prove otherwise.
So was an Air Force Academy recently until it was found out that the very same person who was pitching a fit about " racism " was also the same person who wrote the slur on the wall to begin with.
We should probably treat the executive levels in any given company as we treat high level officers in the various branches of the Military.
Something goes wrong, at the bare minimum, the Officer in Charge takes full responsibility and is removed. Read that: CEO.
No instant-retirement allowed to dodge the repercussions.
Golden Parachute revoked.
No profiting of any kind from screwing everyone else over.
YOUR GD FAULT. Directly or indirectly it doesn't matter.
You were in charge when it happened, you suffer the consequences for it.
It might actually force the company to do things the right way if their own ass is on the line.
always so damned ignorant ?
Why do we have to keep explaining the same things over and over to the same people ?
Encryption is doing its job if it prevents unauthorized folks from obtaining the data it's protecting. This includes the government. ( Whom no one fully trusts with anything ) Especially the government in some instances.
As leaky as the government is with their own networks and the data that rides them, it would only be a matter of time before any mandated backdoor became semi-public knowledge. At which point the damage that can be done would be epic.
What's " unreasonable " is the government demanding levels of transparency on the people while doing their damndest to hide everything they do under veils of secrecy, NSL's and secret courts. ( All under the guise of 'protecting' us of course. )
Tell you what, we'll give you access to our data, when you give us full access to yours.
Until then, you all can go fuck yourselves.
Hugs and kisses from all of us.
Trump has had the stance since day one that the merger wouldn't happen under his administration, so this is expected.
In addition, we need to break these folks up, not let them keep consolidating into ever larger " too big to fail " entities. We have a monopoly problem already, don't need to throw more fuel on the fire.
One giant company shouldn't be allowed to own the content, the pipes and the end mechanism to deliver it all.
Too much power consolidated into too few hands makes it all too easy to sway public opinion in any direction you want. Trump is all too aware of this considering how the media has behaved since the election.
Though I suspect if the TW deal happens, it won't be long before AT&T starts prepping to sell off its wireline services.
How does this work with an actively monitored alarm system ?
They going to call when the delivery driver arrives so you can disarm the alarm ?
I think it would be a better solution to put a remote controlled lockbox on the front porch. Lock / unlock that instead of giving a total stranger access to your home.
"The report, prepared by a board-appointed special committee"
That whole asking the " fox to guard the hen house " thing comes to mind.
No wrong doing found here. No sir. Nothing to see, move along.
See, you're doing it wrong.
You steal your coworkers credentials and use that to access that information.
You would be impressed with the information you can gather by setting up a mirror port on a switch paired with wireshark.
You have to pay people enough because if you don't, and they have high level access, they are ripe for recruitment from outside organizations willing to pay them more for the access they have.
Low paid employee won't think twice about it. One with a nice paying job most certainly will.
Without volunteers, conscription would take its place. Ask the folks who fought in Vietnam how they felt about it.
Be happy there are volunteers.
So on this note, how much access do you all have at your company and where do you sit in the corporate food chain ?
Me, I'm just a faceless employee. One who has enable mode access to nearly every router and switch ( even the core systems ) in the entire company. Scary level of power if you think about it.
Someone has to do the work though and it certainly isn't going to be some executive type who wouldn't know what an enable mode prompt looked like if you threw it at them.
So, many tech companies ( especially the 500lb gorilla sized ones ) don't have a lot of choice.
We can't all be executives and the work still needs to get done.
1) Lack of anything meaningful to watch on it. I think every other station on DirecTV is either an infomercial, religious programming, or in a language I don't even speak. ( Spanish ) The culled down list of channels I flip through is maybe a dozen. Maybe.
2) Monthly cost of said programming far exceeds its value. Far, FAR too expensive for what it is. Cut the cost in half and you might slow the bleeding a bit. For a while anyway. You still need to fix #1 if you plan on having any long term customers.
You may be wondering why I even have the service if I bitch about the lack of programming and its cost. The ONLY reason I still have it is because I get a ludicrous discount on it. All channels sans premiums ( HBO, Max, etc ) costs less than my monthly Netflix account unless I decide to watch some pay per view movies.
I have said it outloud more than once: " There is no way I would ever pay full price for this. "