Ever woken up in a flock of mutton birds sitting atop the water and streatching as far as the eye can see? Once into something that large floating on top, it's not always clear how to get out. Admittedly sailing toward the volcano was unlikely to help matters as much as crossing the current would have.
There is also Krakatoa, but it behaves more like a recursive island.
Lust is not a bug, it is a design feature.
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"if people want to be hoes, that's their perogative. And no, "ho" does not just refer to women, so I'm not being a misogynist. Men can easily be (and often are) hoes. If you're in a long-term relationship and comfortable with the fact that a child could result if you take off your pants, then you are ready to have sex."
What a crock of shit. What happens if I don't want to be emotionally handcuffed to one person, I'm supposed to jerk off for the rest of my life? The term whore (or "ho" if you must) means doing something you don't like with your body for payment, ie: we all spend time "whoring". In the modern world, unwanted children come from a lack of intelligence, lack of education, lack of access to birth control or some combination of all three, they do not come from "sleeping around" even though sleeping with "someone" is normally a pre-requisite.
"Seriously people, it's not hard to keep it in your pants and keep your skirt to your knees."
Adults are pre-programmed to have sex in the same way they are pre-programmed to seek food and water but with a lower priority, adults can get all sorts of diseases from all three activities, they also don't react well when denied access to any of the activities ( again sex has a lower and more variable priority ).
Disclaimer: I caught the end of the "free love" orgy in the 70's, was married for 20yrs (90% happily), 2 adult kids (both now living with their lovers), got "snipped" but it felt like being "bricked", divorced the unfaithful alcoholic that is possesing my wife's body, had a long "midlife crisis" to the tune of "you and me baby are nothin' but mammals", and will soon be celebrating the 5th "anniversary" of my monogomous relationship with a new love (albeit seperated by 1km). I have no idea what will happen to my sex life in my remaining years, perhaps I will just get bored with sex and post two minute rants on slashdot instead.
"People have been cleared of their crimes while on death row"
The second last man hung in the UK was an inoccent simpleton, the last was the guy who framed him.
I can understand people splitting hairs on exactly when the "right to be born" starts, or even if those rights exists in the first place, I don't understand capital punshiment from the same religious zealots who think every sperm is sacred. I can only assume the phrase "vengance is mine sayeth the lord" has some caveates somewhere?
Albert Pierrepoint, "the most prolific British hangman of the twentieth century" would agree.
"I have come to the conclusion that executions solve nothing, and are only an antiquated relic of a primitive desire for revenge which takes the easy way and hands over the responsibility for revenge to other people" - Albert Pierrepoint's autobiography.
Thank-you for taking an absurd argument all the way through to it's logical conclusion. Universal health cover should mean what it says, ie: it should be universal.
The way universal health cover works over here in Australia (and it does "work"), is that people are treated in order of medical need. The people in the hospitals and clinics are there to treat your problem, there is not one person in the whole building wasting time with reams of red-tape trying to figure out wether or not you are worthy of treatment in the first place or what your place number is in the "queue". The money saved goes directly to reducing the length of the "queue" by spending money on the patients rather than the administration of the patients.
I am a "pack-a-day" smoker, and in case anyone has failed to notice there is a huge tax on smokes. As I said Australia has an excellent "socialist" health system, last I heard ( a good while ago ), smokers contributed $4B to revenue as a direct tax on their habit, the state spent $24M on anti-smoking campaings, and the national health budget was ~$20B. In otherwords the extra revenue from smokers could have been used to fund 20% of the nations health budget. I suggest similar level of tax on alcohol and stilleto heels to boost health funding a further 20%, (naturally, I don't drink or wear heels).
So let's cut all the anti-smoker bullshit, we are not leaching your financial resources, if anything non-smokers are leaching mine.
BTW: My revenue rant is not aimed at you, your post is actually one of the few in this thread that make any sense, I just wanted to point out that the general assumption of this thread (ie: that smokers are a net burden on the public purse) is false, well, at least here in Australia it is.
"I'm also against the current system of socialized medicine"
Surely you are not talking about the corporate gold mine know as the US health system? I live in a country that has had universal health cover for the last 30yrs (so much for the predictions in the 70's that it would send the country broke). Not only can I smoke myself half to death and get world class treatment, I can also get beaten sensless in a drunken brawl, eat my way into heart failure or skateboard into the a bus (if I could ride a skateboard) and still get ministered by the best doctors in the land. What's more, I can travel to other countries, such as the UK, and get treated for "free" should I happen to cough up a lung during my vacation.
A 1.5% tax levy pays for the treatment of my self-inficted maladies, with enough left over to cover three non-taxpayers (eg: kids, UK tourists who get too close to the wildlife) and a whole raft of preventative health programs. As a rough estimate the same level of cover in the US would be more than five times the personal cost and would fail to assist or educate anyone else.
Although it is "world class" the Australian health system is far from perfect. However dispite the imperfections, any politician who would suggest moving to a US style "pay or die" health system would be strung up from the nearest gum tree by all except the exceedingly wealthy. In short it is not "socialized medicine" that is the problem in the US, it is corporate greed, individual selfishness, and a pathological fear of anything that smells like socialisim.
At least the MWP club seems to have dropped the "vinyards in england" crap, but only after it was repeatedly pointed out there are still vinyards in england today.
Thanks! Regarding your sig, do you know what happened to the censored pages on Saudi Arabia ( cut from the CIA's annual report shortly after 9/11 )? It's been bugging me ever since I heard it.
While I generally agree bad land/water management has compounded the problem, and acknowledge storms stubbornly track around the catchments instead of over them, I would not want to mow down the Tassie forests to plant cash crops. OTOH: I wholeheartedly agree we need solid data to adapt. The article in the Australian is not bad but it downplays the severity as can bee seen by looking at the BOM's drought statement archives. The most interesting ones are the latest one and the one for the 2000 downpour you mention. As an aside this years grain crop forecast was cut in half (12M tons lost) around july-august, since then the drought has got worse.
The 1:1000 (or sometimes 1:500) figure I quoted was arrived at using the same techniques as insurance actuaries use for weather related events.
"It's very simple: The ice sheet atop Greenland has been growing, not melting. I have provided ample evidence to support this assertion. Evidence in the form of observations, not predictions and computer models."
It's anything but simple and you still don't get it. Your "observational evidence" is a confirmation of climate model predictions and the "observational evidence" from the GRACE study (that has been repeatedly pointed out to you, but you have repeatedly ignored), is much more accurate since it was designed specifically to measure the ice mass.
"If you guys want to rationalize that thicker glaciers equals global warming, then go right ahead."
If you want to engage in willfull ignorance to suit your politically inspired dogma, then go right ahead. I am assuming you a smart enough to have a dogmatic political opinion since I cannot think of another reason why you would ignore thousands of scientific papers and concentrate of just two well known skeptical abstracts. Like king Canute, the only person you are fooling is yourself.
If you really want to argue against AGW using the built in skepticism of science then there is a method for doing so, first hypothisise AGW is not happening and then try and prove yourself wrong by prediction and observation. The IPCC reference pages are full of of people smarter than you and I that have tried and failed.
I have lived in Melbourne Australia for nearly 50yrs, we are experiencing a 1:1000yr drought event accompanied by record breaking heat waves, you may have also read about the exceptionally bad bushfires that have come 2 months early and blanketed the SE part of the continenet with smoke. My reasonably clean-air city looked like Calcutta for most of December, much worse and much longer than the smoke from "Ash Wednesday". Surprisingly, this year was my first white Christmas, I woke up to a severe hail storm that turned the garden and street white, elsewhere snow was falling on the fires.
The thing is, this is the third time in the last 2 months that an Antartic blast has dumped snow on bushfires, yet they have done little to eliviate the ever worsening drought, needless to say few people here now doubt that our climate has gone pear-shaped.
BTW: Thanks to the US, Canada and New Zealand for the fire-fighting assistance and equipment, maybe there is still reason to hope for international cooperation.
And if you could read you would find your precious "article" is actually an abstract, the paper itself does not account for the edges but does agree they are shrinking, and if you read past the 54cm bit you would find a citation at the bottom of your link pointing to the GRACE study that contradicts your 54cm claim.
Now if there are contradictory findings and you had any research skills at all, you could easily find a scientific critique of the two papers. Don't dispair, you do have some skill, at least you can quote an abstract from science that (on the surface) appears to pander to your world view and assists in you ridiculing people, perhaps if you brushed the chip of your shoulder you could learn something about the world around you. OTHOH: I suspect you are trolling and don't really expect a sensible reply to the GRACE data that I and others have pointed out.
BTW, the oil company shills have blown the cooling craze completely out of proportion to what it was (and yes, I do remeber 1975 and was old enough to read newspapers at the time).
First up nobody disputes there has been increased snowfall in Greenland's interior, in fact it was predicted by climate models.
Second, there have been more comprehensive and more recent studies from the GRACE sattelites, seen in the citation record at the bottom of your link. Also note in the GRACE mission statement that NASA purposfully designed the sattelites to measure the "exchanges between ice sheets or glaciers and the oceans".
Third, Johanessen et al. came to the best conclusion using the data they had, they just didn't have all the data available today.
Fourth, both the paper by Johanssen in your link and the more recent paper based on GRACE data from Rignot and Kanagaratnam agree with the predictions of climate models that say the interior will build and the edges will melt.
Last of all, allthough the result of 54cm is "very simple", measuring a volume of ice the size of Greenland is not a simple task and the error bars in the studies reflect that difficulty. Johanessen is a genuine skeptic when it comes to the impact of AGW, however even he does not doubt it is happening, nor does he doubt our CO2 emmisions are to blame.
It's also an accepted scientific "fact" that Greenland and the Antartic peninsula are subject to a phenomena called "polar amplification" which has seen their regional average tempratures rise by 3 degrees, compared to the global average of 1 degree. Now tell me again about "global warming scare mongering" or are you just trolling for AC's?
Going back a few years, glacier ice was all the rage in Japan's trendy bars because it "pops" as it's melting, people were paying for the stuff in preference to normal ice in their drinks. The reason for the continous popping is the trapped air in glacial ice is under greater preasure than manafactured ice.
"If they have ever run tests to see if the file matching can be fooled into false-positive matches (especially if they have not actually listened to the downloaded files), and what the accuracy rate is."
Good question, proving correctness, even for trivial software is an expensive task and the RIAA are penny pinchers.
If they do have test results then question what quality standards (eg: IEEE, CMM) were used to conduct the testing. Ask for past and present "bug lists" or anything else that displays the shakey nature of our chosen proffesion. Having a bug list can introduce doubt about the software, not having a bug list can introduce doubt about the QA.
I assume they have logs from the ISP, otherwise how the hell can they be sure it was her computer.
PS: I have noticed NYCL's informative posts on other slashdot stories, I hope he finds what he is looking for.
"That sounds kinda like an atomic bomb, why doesn't this stuff explode ?"
It is like an A bomb and it does explode, however the mechanisim is much bigger and the explosions are much smaller. You could also think of the energy released by the decay of the hassium nuclei as a contiuation of the explosion in the same way that Uranium stores some engery from the supernova that created it.
"People who drive slowly in the wrong place may be annoying idiots - but they do not cause the accident."
That's how the law works in Australia. If you ram a sober, licensened driver from behind your insurance company will automatically admit liability on your behalf, even if you have independent witnesses who saw the arsehole cut you off and slam on the brakes.
I did not mean to imply Engineers don't procrastinate, I was talking about the imposition of project end dates from above.
Engineers do not recieve end dates, they produce them. A lead engineer is required to "sign off" and is legally responsible for the work, incompetence can land them in jail on a manslaughter charge.
I have ~20yrs in commercial software development, some places include the programmers in the estimation processes, others don't. If my boss fails to ask me for an estimate, I will fail to join him in the "crunch time" panic.
he offers a fresh look from outside the field
Translation: He drags up stale non-sequiters because he hasn't got a fucking clue.
Ever woken up in a flock of mutton birds sitting atop the water and streatching as far as the eye can see? Once into something that large floating on top, it's not always clear how to get out. Admittedly sailing toward the volcano was unlikely to help matters as much as crossing the current would have.
...And a smart captain would shanghi some kids! :)
There is also Krakatoa, but it behaves more like a recursive island.
"if people want to be hoes, that's their perogative. And no, "ho" does not just refer to women, so I'm not being a misogynist. Men can easily be (and often are) hoes. If you're in a long-term relationship and comfortable with the fact that a child could result if you take off your pants, then you are ready to have sex."
What a crock of shit. What happens if I don't want to be emotionally handcuffed to one person, I'm supposed to jerk off for the rest of my life? The term whore (or "ho" if you must) means doing something you don't like with your body for payment, ie: we all spend time "whoring". In the modern world, unwanted children come from a lack of intelligence, lack of education, lack of access to birth control or some combination of all three, they do not come from "sleeping around" even though sleeping with "someone" is normally a pre-requisite.
"Seriously people, it's not hard to keep it in your pants and keep your skirt to your knees."
Adults are pre-programmed to have sex in the same way they are pre-programmed to seek food and water but with a lower priority, adults can get all sorts of diseases from all three activities, they also don't react well when denied access to any of the activities ( again sex has a lower and more variable priority ).
Disclaimer: I caught the end of the "free love" orgy in the 70's, was married for 20yrs (90% happily), 2 adult kids (both now living with their lovers), got "snipped" but it felt like being "bricked", divorced the unfaithful alcoholic that is possesing my wife's body, had a long "midlife crisis" to the tune of "you and me baby are nothin' but mammals", and will soon be celebrating the 5th "anniversary" of my monogomous relationship with a new love (albeit seperated by 1km). I have no idea what will happen to my sex life in my remaining years, perhaps I will just get bored with sex and post two minute rants on slashdot instead.
"People have been cleared of their crimes while on death row"
The second last man hung in the UK was an inoccent simpleton, the last was the guy who framed him.
I can understand people splitting hairs on exactly when the "right to be born" starts, or even if those rights exists in the first place, I don't understand capital punshiment from the same religious zealots who think every sperm is sacred. I can only assume the phrase "vengance is mine sayeth the lord" has some caveates somewhere?
"It is an act of revenge."
Albert Pierrepoint, "the most prolific British hangman of the twentieth century" would agree.
"I have come to the conclusion that executions solve nothing, and are only an antiquated relic of a primitive desire for revenge which takes the easy way and hands over the responsibility for revenge to other people" - Albert Pierrepoint's autobiography.
Thank-you for taking an absurd argument all the way through to it's logical conclusion. Universal health cover should mean what it says, ie: it should be universal.
The way universal health cover works over here in Australia (and it does "work"), is that people are treated in order of medical need. The people in the hospitals and clinics are there to treat your problem, there is not one person in the whole building wasting time with reams of red-tape trying to figure out wether or not you are worthy of treatment in the first place or what your place number is in the "queue". The money saved goes directly to reducing the length of the "queue" by spending money on the patients rather than the administration of the patients.
I am a "pack-a-day" smoker, and in case anyone has failed to notice there is a huge tax on smokes. As I said Australia has an excellent "socialist" health system, last I heard ( a good while ago ), smokers contributed $4B to revenue as a direct tax on their habit, the state spent $24M on anti-smoking campaings, and the national health budget was ~$20B. In otherwords the extra revenue from smokers could have been used to fund 20% of the nations health budget. I suggest similar level of tax on alcohol and stilleto heels to boost health funding a further 20%, (naturally, I don't drink or wear heels).
So let's cut all the anti-smoker bullshit, we are not leaching your financial resources, if anything non-smokers are leaching mine.
BTW: My revenue rant is not aimed at you, your post is actually one of the few in this thread that make any sense, I just wanted to point out that the general assumption of this thread (ie: that smokers are a net burden on the public purse) is false, well, at least here in Australia it is.
"I'm also against the current system of socialized medicine"
Surely you are not talking about the corporate gold mine know as the US health system? I live in a country that has had universal health cover for the last 30yrs (so much for the predictions in the 70's that it would send the country broke). Not only can I smoke myself half to death and get world class treatment, I can also get beaten sensless in a drunken brawl, eat my way into heart failure or skateboard into the a bus (if I could ride a skateboard) and still get ministered by the best doctors in the land. What's more, I can travel to other countries, such as the UK, and get treated for "free" should I happen to cough up a lung during my vacation.
A 1.5% tax levy pays for the treatment of my self-inficted maladies, with enough left over to cover three non-taxpayers (eg: kids, UK tourists who get too close to the wildlife) and a whole raft of preventative health programs. As a rough estimate the same level of cover in the US would be more than five times the personal cost and would fail to assist or educate anyone else.
Although it is "world class" the Australian health system is far from perfect. However dispite the imperfections, any politician who would suggest moving to a US style "pay or die" health system would be strung up from the nearest gum tree by all except the exceedingly wealthy. In short it is not "socialized medicine" that is the problem in the US, it is corporate greed, individual selfishness, and a pathological fear of anything that smells like socialisim.
"There being thicker ice in any part of the world (even my freezer) means that global warming is totally false."
OMG the three body problem doesn't have a solution, gravity is totaly false.
At least the MWP club seems to have dropped the "vinyards in england" crap, but only after it was repeatedly pointed out there are still vinyards in england today.
Ooo-Oooo, Mr Koter , Mr Koter - "In soviet russia you position sattelite".
Thanks! Regarding your sig, do you know what happened to the censored pages on Saudi Arabia ( cut from the CIA's annual report shortly after 9/11 )? It's been bugging me ever since I heard it.
While I generally agree bad land/water management has compounded the problem, and acknowledge storms stubbornly track around the catchments instead of over them, I would not want to mow down the Tassie forests to plant cash crops. OTOH: I wholeheartedly agree we need solid data to adapt. The article in the Australian is not bad but it downplays the severity as can bee seen by looking at the BOM's drought statement archives. The most interesting ones are the latest one and the one for the 2000 downpour you mention. As an aside this years grain crop forecast was cut in half (12M tons lost) around july-august, since then the drought has got worse.
The 1:1000 (or sometimes 1:500) figure I quoted was arrived at using the same techniques as insurance actuaries use for weather related events.
"Is there any parasite that makes MEN more attractive?
Yes, but she will take all your stuff.
"It's very simple: The ice sheet atop Greenland has been growing, not melting. I have provided ample evidence to support this assertion. Evidence in the form of observations, not predictions and computer models."
It's anything but simple and you still don't get it. Your "observational evidence" is a confirmation of climate model predictions and the "observational evidence" from the GRACE study (that has been repeatedly pointed out to you, but you have repeatedly ignored), is much more accurate since it was designed specifically to measure the ice mass.
"If you guys want to rationalize that thicker glaciers equals global warming, then go right ahead."
If you want to engage in willfull ignorance to suit your politically inspired dogma, then go right ahead. I am assuming you a smart enough to have a dogmatic political opinion since I cannot think of another reason why you would ignore thousands of scientific papers and concentrate of just two well known skeptical abstracts. Like king Canute, the only person you are fooling is yourself.
If you really want to argue against AGW using the built in skepticism of science then there is a method for doing so, first hypothisise AGW is not happening and then try and prove yourself wrong by prediction and observation. The IPCC reference pages are full of of people smarter than you and I that have tried and failed.
Troll? - No, If it were a troll I would expect a reply. It's actually flamebait disgused as information.
I have lived in Melbourne Australia for nearly 50yrs, we are experiencing a 1:1000yr drought event accompanied by record breaking heat waves, you may have also read about the exceptionally bad bushfires that have come 2 months early and blanketed the SE part of the continenet with smoke. My reasonably clean-air city looked like Calcutta for most of December, much worse and much longer than the smoke from "Ash Wednesday". Surprisingly, this year was my first white Christmas, I woke up to a severe hail storm that turned the garden and street white, elsewhere snow was falling on the fires.
The thing is, this is the third time in the last 2 months that an Antartic blast has dumped snow on bushfires, yet they have done little to eliviate the ever worsening drought, needless to say few people here now doubt that our climate has gone pear-shaped.
BTW: Thanks to the US, Canada and New Zealand for the fire-fighting assistance and equipment, maybe there is still reason to hope for international cooperation.
"No. If you could read,..."
And if you could read you would find your precious "article" is actually an abstract, the paper itself does not account for the edges but does agree they are shrinking, and if you read past the 54cm bit you would find a citation at the bottom of your link pointing to the GRACE study that contradicts your 54cm claim.
Now if there are contradictory findings and you had any research skills at all, you could easily find a scientific critique of the two papers. Don't dispair, you do have some skill, at least you can quote an abstract from science that (on the surface) appears to pander to your world view and assists in you ridiculing people, perhaps if you brushed the chip of your shoulder you could learn something about the world around you. OTHOH: I suspect you are trolling and don't really expect a sensible reply to the GRACE data that I and others have pointed out.
BTW, the oil company shills have blown the cooling craze completely out of proportion to what it was (and yes, I do remeber 1975 and was old enough to read newspapers at the time).
First up nobody disputes there has been increased snowfall in Greenland's interior, in fact it was predicted by climate models.
Second, there have been more comprehensive and more recent studies from the GRACE sattelites, seen in the citation record at the bottom of your link. Also note in the GRACE mission statement that NASA purposfully designed the sattelites to measure the "exchanges between ice sheets or glaciers and the oceans".
Third, Johanessen et al. came to the best conclusion using the data they had, they just didn't have all the data available today.
Fourth, both the paper by Johanssen in your link and the more recent paper based on GRACE data from Rignot and Kanagaratnam agree with the predictions of climate models that say the interior will build and the edges will melt.
Last of all, allthough the result of 54cm is "very simple", measuring a volume of ice the size of Greenland is not a simple task and the error bars in the studies reflect that difficulty. Johanessen is a genuine skeptic when it comes to the impact of AGW, however even he does not doubt it is happening, nor does he doubt our CO2 emmisions are to blame.
It's also an accepted scientific "fact" that Greenland and the Antartic peninsula are subject to a phenomena called "polar amplification" which has seen their regional average tempratures rise by 3 degrees, compared to the global average of 1 degree. Now tell me again about "global warming scare mongering" or are you just trolling for AC's?
Going back a few years, glacier ice was all the rage in Japan's trendy bars because it "pops" as it's melting, people were paying for the stuff in preference to normal ice in their drinks. The reason for the continous popping is the trapped air in glacial ice is under greater preasure than manafactured ice.
"If they have ever run tests to see if the file matching can be fooled into false-positive matches (especially if they have not actually listened to the downloaded files), and what the accuracy rate is."
Good question, proving correctness, even for trivial software is an expensive task and the RIAA are penny pinchers.
If they do have test results then question what quality standards (eg: IEEE, CMM) were used to conduct the testing. Ask for past and present "bug lists" or anything else that displays the shakey nature of our chosen proffesion. Having a bug list can introduce doubt about the software, not having a bug list can introduce doubt about the QA.
I assume they have logs from the ISP, otherwise how the hell can they be sure it was her computer.
PS: I have noticed NYCL's informative posts on other slashdot stories, I hope he finds what he is looking for.
"misleading headline"
Yes, perhaps it should have been titled "100 things beeb magazine didn't know last year".
"That sounds kinda like an atomic bomb, why doesn't this stuff explode ?"
It is like an A bomb and it does explode, however the mechanisim is much bigger and the explosions are much smaller. You could also think of the energy released by the decay of the hassium nuclei as a contiuation of the explosion in the same way that Uranium stores some engery from the supernova that created it.
"People who drive slowly in the wrong place may be annoying idiots - but they do not cause the accident."
That's how the law works in Australia. If you ram a sober, licensened driver from behind your insurance company will automatically admit liability on your behalf, even if you have independent witnesses who saw the arsehole cut you off and slam on the brakes.
I did not mean to imply Engineers don't procrastinate, I was talking about the imposition of project end dates from above.
Engineers do not recieve end dates, they produce them. A lead engineer is required to "sign off" and is legally responsible for the work, incompetence can land them in jail on a manslaughter charge.
I have ~20yrs in commercial software development, some places include the programmers in the estimation processes, others don't. If my boss fails to ask me for an estimate, I will fail to join him in the "crunch time" panic.