Annnnd the fact that every time this sort of article gets posted there is this fundamental and extremely naive assumption that you are still in control of your government, it is still supposed to work for the people and that the politicians (and their masters) are not fully aware of what they are doing.
Remove that and this faux surprise and outrage goes away and the real work can begin...fixing the ACTUAL problem...
You missed my point. I am not saying old programmers are worse - they are not.
Just that and old programmer is past it 5-10 years after they stop keeping up to date...like I said...
I hire programmers and have senior, junior and everything in between. I have a guy 2 years from retirement who kept more up to date than his younger counterparts. He just loved technology and his age was never a factor. Go figure.
Easy to answer in a practical sense: about 5-10 years after they cannot be bothered staying up to date. (depends on area)
Does not mean they cannot find work, just that they will be stale and horrible. (just like food)
In a perception in the marketplace? About the time you look the age the employer hiring you thinks makes you out of date...which can be between 35-85 depending on the employer.
Because always being a self interested jerk in all cases is what all the cool kids are doing. Even if it means undermining justice and allowing governments to get away with murder...literally in some cases...
Even though I am a NZ tax payer I certainly hope this is the case. What happened was a total joke and our "guy smiley", "I know NOTHING!!" PM needs to be held accountable for this. And if the only way to get the sleepy ol' NZ voter to start paying attention is to be footing a billion dollar bill then so be it..
We have a very politically independent judiciary here (as much as the current government has attempted to undermine that with all the law and order reforms) and they can typically be counted on to execute the law as defined.
Its a nice simple theory there but alas the picture is far bigger than you paint.
Large multi-nationals hide their profits in black economies and pay very little tax. Also their profits are typically spent in ways (e.g. CxO salaries) which do not benefit the economy as much as small businesses. (poor people spending is better than rich people spending) Small businesses slosh their money around economies (esp. local ones) and thus you get more economic bang for your buck.
Lower profits for companies are not necessarily a bad thing for everyone. In fact I would argue that mega profits for companies ARE a bad thing - for a large number of reasons. Profit inefficiency of the automata does not necessarily mean inefficiency for the entire engine.
For example: How is all the offshoring (only really made possible by large multi-nationals) working out for your economy in the US??
What we are ultimately interested in is the performance of the macro economy and the ability to sustain a good standard of living for the general populace and not only raw profit margins.
I mean, aren't we??
(NB: currently the US has this all back to front....)
You don't have ownership or duty of care to the lift in any way, the buttons allow you to only go where the owners want you to go and (most importantly) no laws say you are responsible (which was the crux of my argument). Also lifts have nothing to do with cars.
What complete rubbish. The road rules would be the same.
All that is required is that one person in the car is designated the "operator" (i.e. chooses where the car goes) and they are recognised as holding full responsibility for the car.
I would agree depending on the size of the domain and the time available.
Dropping tools and working on a test suite that should realistically contain 10,000 tests to get adequate coverage is not going to happen with a 1 person team for example. Especially if the test harness is difficult to work with.
All very valid and totally justified reasons...if you live in a police state.
NZers are generally shocked and totally disgusted with their police force over this. Especially the co-towing to the US authorities part.
Given the current right-wing government's stance on doing whatever the US or its corporate owners say it is not surprising...
Ref: - Changing employment law for the hobbit movie - Signing up to ACTA despite it being bad for NZ - 3 strikes law - General foreign policy - Our special forces in Afganistan
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Seriously. Who here pays attention to the ads or does not have an ad blocker?
I never even see ads anymore. Even the ones my ad blocker does not block.
This only affects stupid people.
Stupid people don't need protection.... ...wait...
They don't need protection from the world. Stupid people need protection as in condoms so they stop breeding.
Or the reporters could do their fucking jobs properly...instead of morphing into paid shills.
Then maybe the populace would have a clue. As it is now there is nowhere mainstream to get good info. about this shit.
Just a thought.
Annnnd the fact that every time this sort of article gets posted there is this fundamental and extremely naive assumption that you are still in control of your government, it is still supposed to work for the people and that the politicians (and their masters) are not fully aware of what they are doing.
Remove that and this faux surprise and outrage goes away and the real work can begin...fixing the ACTUAL problem...
(once I have not forgotten to log in...)
I understand what you are saying but I would say they are both evil and stupid in this instance.
They THINK that they are obtaining long term benefits but are not.
Hence the irony I mentioned in my original post. The irony is that they don't know that ultimately their greed is is harming them. Making them stupid.
There are always exceptions to the rule of course - I know I am generalising heavily. Its called social psychology. :)
But our conversation is probably far above the heads of most....ref: my original post.
Not happy with having already removed most of your rights as workers...
So true.
My initial reaction was: DUH, welcome to project management.
Then you add that many if not most meet several stretch targets that are to be completed without bigger teams etc etc.
So yeah, just DUH.
It was a sad, sad day when they allowed the trading and amassing of ideas and exclusion of their use to others.
Before that is was land.
Before that it was wealth.
Next they will allow the trading of life itself...not wait that was done before all the above...
.
(I agree comrade)
But seriously, I do. You are so painfully, incredible and obviously correct.
Last 20 years, roughly:
Productivity increase: 70+%
Wealth increase: a lot
Median wages after inflation: stagnant.
You cannot argue with the core numbers.
Ballistic: something designed to look exactly like it should be accompanied by a pair of balls.
You do understand the concept of competition in the market....ooohhh nevermind...
I see you have your fingers in your ears again...
Of course for UK readers what she said could be reinterpreted as:
If there is no quid, then there is no Quid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quid
I am not saying what you think I am. See my above post.
You missed my point. I am not saying old programmers are worse - they are not.
Just that and old programmer is past it 5-10 years after they stop keeping up to date...like I said...
I hire programmers and have senior, junior and everything in between. I have a guy 2 years from retirement who kept more up to date than his younger counterparts. He just loved technology and his age was never a factor. Go figure.
Easy to answer in a practical sense: about 5-10 years after they cannot be bothered staying up to date. (depends on area)
Does not mean they cannot find work, just that they will be stale and horrible. (just like food)
In a perception in the marketplace? About the time you look the age the employer hiring you thinks makes you out of date...which can be between 35-85 depending on the employer.
Because always being a self interested jerk in all cases is what all the cool kids are doing. Even if it means undermining justice and allowing governments to get away with murder...literally in some cases...
Even though I am a NZ tax payer I certainly hope this is the case. What happened was a total joke and our "guy smiley", "I know NOTHING!!" PM needs to be held accountable for this. And if the only way to get the sleepy ol' NZ voter to start paying attention is to be footing a billion dollar bill then so be it..
We have a very politically independent judiciary here (as much as the current government has attempted to undermine that with all the law and order reforms) and they can typically be counted on to execute the law as defined.
Its a nice simple theory there but alas the picture is far bigger than you paint.
Large multi-nationals hide their profits in black economies and pay very little tax. Also their profits are typically spent in ways (e.g. CxO salaries) which do not benefit the economy as much as small businesses. (poor people spending is better than rich people spending) Small businesses slosh their money around economies (esp. local ones) and thus you get more economic bang for your buck.
Lower profits for companies are not necessarily a bad thing for everyone. In fact I would argue that mega profits for companies ARE a bad thing - for a large number of reasons. Profit inefficiency of the automata does not necessarily mean inefficiency for the entire engine.
For example: How is all the offshoring (only really made possible by large multi-nationals) working out for your economy in the US??
What we are ultimately interested in is the performance of the macro economy and the ability to sustain a good standard of living for the general populace and not only raw profit margins.
I mean, aren't we??
(NB: currently the US has this all back to front....)
You are wrong.
OUr "public" debt is enormously high and is in fact one of the highest in the OECD per capita. (like iceland's was)
Our government debt is low.
Nice try at straw man.
You don't have ownership or duty of care to the lift in any way, the buttons allow you to only go where the owners want you to go and (most importantly) no laws say you are responsible (which was the crux of my argument).
Also lifts have nothing to do with cars.
But apart from that you are spot on...
What complete rubbish. The road rules would be the same.
All that is required is that one person in the car is designated the "operator" (i.e. chooses where the car goes) and they are recognised as holding full responsibility for the car.
I would agree depending on the size of the domain and the time available.
Dropping tools and working on a test suite that should realistically contain 10,000 tests to get adequate coverage is not going to happen with a 1 person team for example. Especially if the test harness is difficult to work with.
My advice would be:
Good luck and god be with you...
No, no. Far more sinister.
It is where money changes government policy and laws....
The old hands never change....
All very valid and totally justified reasons...if you live in a police state.
NZers are generally shocked and totally disgusted with their police force over this. Especially the co-towing to the US authorities part.
Given the current right-wing government's stance on doing whatever the US or its corporate owners say it is not surprising...
Ref:
- Changing employment law for the hobbit movie
- Signing up to ACTA despite it being bad for NZ
- 3 strikes law
- General foreign policy
- Our special forces in Afganistan
It was apparently not legal to wiretap without a warrant in the US also.
How is that working out for you?
Or they had their eyes closed and were given instructions beforehand on what to do. Which I believe is what happened.
Had they opened their eyes however...
Also the guys that typically run around with water bottles to flush people's eyes out.