The three laws is a bunch of overhyped rubbish - quadruply so in the case of robots that are not fully AI and could not even interpret them. Also due to the extremely naive assumption that people in charge of making robots will want them to respect human life and implement these anyway - I mean they don't currently?!
Militaries? FoxConn? NSA? CIA? etc? Their track record is CURRENTLY completely abysmal.
Yes I know you were joking. I just don't see any of this as a joke long term.
This is not conspiracy - I look at the CURRENT state of affairs and add killer robots and feel sick to my stomach. This really is no joke and it is about time the plebs woke the fuck up already.
You (and many other nations) have currently lost control of your government and if anything it currently works against you wherever it can for the benefit of the ruling class. (NB: Not you) This much is patently obvious and if you disagree I suggest you research the current value of the shadow banking system (100 trillion), what the rich pay in REAL taxes, and where 99% of the additional wealth generated since the crash has gone (i.e. to 1% of the population) while huge numbers of your fellow citizens (remember them?!) are either the "working poor" or unemployed while nothing is done to help. None of this is conspiracy - this is well documented fact from this very website no less.
Soon efficient robots will exist that will be able to vanquish/suppress/intimidate/murder people without those pesky human traits that exists in many of us such as empathy, compassion, guilt, regret etc. Also they will not innately have danger of leaks, spies, whistle blowers, etc. You see it is very hard to find/train/indoctrinate/trick enough psychopaths to carry out these functions on an every increasing number of disgruntled citizens and foreigners.
And your governments have ALREADY shown they are MORE than willing to use those (albeit very flawed) "human resources" for many, many nefarious purposes/war crimes/assassinations/etc. And this if from what we know from the facts (documents, reports, leaks etc), let alone anything that might have gone on behind the scenes, yet (if ever) to be uncovered.
If I was you I would be very, very afraid. But not for the science fiction reasons given in most of these vapid articles written this way because people loved the terminator movie and a book. For the simple fact that robots could now carry out much the same sort of behaviours we already see with the restriction of having to use human beings. Finding/training/indoctrinating/tricking an army of psychos is very, very hard. Finding a handful of people whose moral compass is naturally broken is not that hard at all. (just ask the CIA)
I would be far more afraid of a robot controlled by a psychopathic human than by another robot ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
And look around: many of those psychopaths are holding the keys to the kingdom already.
Good for them. And their business practices are anticompetitive.
They may have INADVERTENTLY done a good deed in their rabid and single minded pursuit for more profit but that does not justify their existence for ever my friend.
And add to that a previous article by a professional producer talking about how new bands get financially screwed by the industry and routinely make less than at a 711 on their first few tours...
What exactly are we supposed to be protecting here??
Exploitation? Slavery? Cult of personality? The needs of the few super stars to be filthy rich at the expense of the rest?
Please...
This is AWESOME and I have personally been wishing for it to happen for over a decade now.
Let the revolution begin. Only good will come of this.
lol. Let's rewrite the PR a bit there. I don't know what the actual situation is so I am going to just talk as much BS as the original guy, but the other way round.
Let's begin:
-- I have such an easy solution for FB: Tyranny.
Primarily because of years of union hating and political apathy by the middle class, workers right are so shite in this country I can just fire people on the spot for having the wrong website open even once when I happen by. (Ed's note: Seriously america...WTF?!) This makes me feel like "a real man"(TM) because there is nothing like reasserting your alpha male status deeply rooted in the primitive parts of your brain from your biological origins like shitting on staff.
I don't "BAN" FB (but actually I do in an even worse way) and allow slashdot (Mostly because I don't understand how it is used by intelligent people) because that helps me sleep at night and provides a wonderfully believable cover story (as least in my sociopathic mind) that I am a "good boss"(TM) and so very smart and on the money and with it and up with the play and trending. Even though none of the above makes any sense at all to anyone rational.
No one complains of course. That would make them "disruptive" and they will have to be similarly dealt with. Mostly they just say "Yes MEIN FUHRER!!!!" and then goose step to their desks to pretend to be productive. Because there is no better measure of productivity than looking at someone's screen! KPI's, modern management theory and piles of research to the contrary be damned!
This creates a culture of fear (and loathing...are you based in las vegas per chance?) and since I am the monkey at the top of the tree all I see when I look down are happy, smiling and productive workers. (when they look up however....)
End result: My small and insignificant company has 5 bootlickers and/or slaves who 9-5 their jobs and are very great each day when they are finally allowed to go home and leave their shitty jobs and boss behind them.
My business is going to be sooooo successful and rich one day.....
You are arrogantly assuming they give two shits about your opinion on the matter or are even asking. They are not.
Notice that the reaction around the world to being caught out on spying has been to...
- shut the CIA declassification department - Make the illegal spying legal (e.g. NZ) - Make it clear whistle blowing is not ok and hunt whistle blowers and call them criminals - torture existing whistle blowers - Lie about the extent of spying in THEIR country while condemning it in others (e.g. europe)
Face it. The noose has tightened. The sheep are in the fields blissfully unaware for the most part.
Its the new world phenom! Its trending baby! Yeah!
The answer is to drop it directly from space using an even bigger satellite.
Boom! Instantaneous and abundant energy for everyone in a 150km radius!*
*Side effects include but are not limited to: death, suffocation, blotting out the sun for a year, diarrhea, anxiety, total financial collapse, food riots and heart attacks.
I was expecting a small "girly" shriek and sobbing.;)
4) would not be possible. There would likely be a written agreement in place. Or the interviewee would have made it clear that any off the paper question would result in the end of the interview immediately.
And the piece might even have to have been preapproved. Who knows?
Certainly not me which is why I used the word "potentially". You may be entirely correct.
You are potentially being very naive about the way reporting CAN be done at times. I am not saying this is a good thing, but I am going to challenge you dumping on the reporter like you have. More than likely her list of questions was pre authorised as is the case in many instances - even more likely when there is "national security" (lol) involved. Almost certainly by the FBI themselves.
So use some empathy here and play a game with me: You are the reporter.
You have three main choices:
1) Try to get through the best and most important questions you can that will slip under the veto of the interviewee and FBI.
2) Not do the interview at all and have no information desemniated.
3) Run a piece about how some retiring FBI guy did not want to answer your questions and hope someone will care about that.
Your call.
I am not saying this situation is optimal. I am just pointing out that firing shots at a reporter from your armchair is a little weak.
Err no. They are being TOLD to catch up by america by america.
This particular party has always wanted to cosy up to the US and do whatever it wants. In this case they want access to the global spying the US is doing on everyone. There is a secret "free" trade agreement being created and signed up to at this time also which undoubtedly has something to do with it..
However.
This bill will enable the cops/govt departments to get access to the GCSB intelligence and for that not to be an offence This bill was in response to the public finding out they have been doing this illegally this whole time. So their response has been to change the law to make it legal and to continue with "business as usual" and much more than likely far worse than before without the fear of any legal ramifications.
And primarily the access they are after is the GCSB's intelligence sharing they do with the US.
This is a cut and dried assault on the freedom of the NZ public. And don't be fooled by the "87%" against the bill. NZ is a nation of sheep and has been for a long long time now. They will do what the shepherd says when the dogs start barking. (and this bill is the sheppard hiring its first pit bull.)
You mean pointing to the patently obvious and pervasive failure of an already well disseminated idea on a worldwide scale has nothing to do with negating a flippant, backhanded suggestion whose primary purpose was to insult obese individuals?
Slashdot Mirror
Which people are these?
You bandy around the term "people" as if everyone was a clone and believed the same thing.
Maybe at your yokel faux news watching church group that is true.
But the world out beyond the cornfields is a complicated place....
That is only because there is no category for: "Waaaay too informative"
So this is th next best thing....
You Have Got To Be Kidding Me?!?!?!?!!?
There are no words to describe how outrageously evil, ridiculous, humorous and telling of the society that allows this sort of travesty is.
The USA has truly lost its way...
You have completely missed the point.
This is an encoded message. The NSA are good at this.
What the message ACTUALLY says is:
MSG
Don't worry about this rubbish with the plebs - its business as usual.
EOM
Very simple really.
Bah!
The three laws is a bunch of overhyped rubbish - quadruply so in the case of robots that are not fully AI and could not even interpret them. Also due to the extremely naive assumption that people in charge of making robots will want them to respect human life and implement these anyway - I mean they don't currently?!
Militaries? FoxConn? NSA? CIA? etc? Their track record is CURRENTLY completely abysmal.
Yes I know you were joking. I just don't see any of this as a joke long term.
This is not conspiracy - I look at the CURRENT state of affairs and add killer robots and feel sick to my stomach. This really is no joke and it is about time the plebs woke the fuck up already.
You (and many other nations) have currently lost control of your government and if anything it currently works against you wherever it can for the benefit of the ruling class. (NB: Not you) This much is patently obvious and if you disagree I suggest you research the current value of the shadow banking system (100 trillion), what the rich pay in REAL taxes, and where 99% of the additional wealth generated since the crash has gone (i.e. to 1% of the population) while huge numbers of your fellow citizens (remember them?!) are either the "working poor" or unemployed while nothing is done to help.
None of this is conspiracy - this is well documented fact from this very website no less.
Soon efficient robots will exist that will be able to vanquish/suppress/intimidate/murder people without those pesky human traits that exists in many of us such as empathy, compassion, guilt, regret etc. Also they will not innately have danger of leaks, spies, whistle blowers, etc.
You see it is very hard to find/train/indoctrinate/trick enough psychopaths to carry out these functions on an every increasing number of disgruntled citizens and foreigners.
And your governments have ALREADY shown they are MORE than willing to use those (albeit very flawed) "human resources" for many, many nefarious purposes/war crimes/assassinations/etc. And this if from what we know from the facts (documents, reports, leaks etc), let alone anything that might have gone on behind the scenes, yet (if ever) to be uncovered.
If I was you I would be very, very afraid. But not for the science fiction reasons given in most of these vapid articles written this way because people loved the terminator movie and a book. For the simple fact that robots could now carry out much the same sort of behaviours we already see with the restriction of having to use human beings.
Finding/training/indoctrinating/tricking an army of psychos is very, very hard. Finding a handful of people whose moral compass is naturally broken is not that hard at all. (just ask the CIA)
I would be far more afraid of a robot controlled by a psychopathic human than by another robot ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
And look around: many of those psychopaths are holding the keys to the kingdom already.
You are 100% correct.
Although our noses are not quite as brown just yet.
But our leaders have been adding huge amount of US produced fibre to their diet so it won't be long now!
Holy crap.
What is awesome about this is how much you have lost control of your country and how flagrantly your leaders are rubbing your noses in their anooses.
Awesome in the horrible, black hole like way and not the good way.
Don't feel bad. I am impressed and happy you have not!
Feel the joyous wonder that is having avoided the plague that is itunes.
That is.
Good for them. And their business practices are anticompetitive.
They may have INADVERTENTLY done a good deed in their rabid and single minded pursuit for more profit but that does not justify their existence for ever my friend.
DOWN WITH ITUNES!
Viva La Revolution!
Have you actually used that piece of crap? Have you read about the dodgy market capturing moves they routinely pull?
Have you heard about the lock in?
The list goes on.
Down with ITUNES!!! :)
Totally agree.
And add to that a previous article by a professional producer talking about how new bands get financially screwed by the industry and routinely make less than at a 711 on their first few tours...
What exactly are we supposed to be protecting here??
Exploitation? Slavery? Cult of personality? The needs of the few super stars to be filthy rich at the expense of the rest?
Please...
This is AWESOME and I have personally been wishing for it to happen for over a decade now.
Let the revolution begin. Only good will come of this.
Next step: KILL ITUNES!!
Most of those jobs have been (or would have been) outsourced to a 3rd world country anyway.
But this is a very nice attempt at blaming something other than govt. policies and big business.
I am sure most people will swallow it hook line and sinker.
Baaaaaaaaaaa
lol.
Let's rewrite the PR a bit there. I don't know what the actual situation is so I am going to just talk as much BS as the original guy, but the other way round.
Let's begin:
--
I have such an easy solution for FB: Tyranny.
Primarily because of years of union hating and political apathy by the middle class, workers right are so shite in this country I can just fire people on the spot for having the wrong website open even once when I happen by. (Ed's note: Seriously america...WTF?!) This makes me feel like "a real man"(TM) because there is nothing like reasserting your alpha male status deeply rooted in the primitive parts of your brain from your biological origins like shitting on staff.
I don't "BAN" FB (but actually I do in an even worse way) and allow slashdot (Mostly because I don't understand how it is used by intelligent people) because that helps me sleep at night and provides a wonderfully believable cover story (as least in my sociopathic mind) that I am a "good boss"(TM) and so very smart and on the money and with it and up with the play and trending.
Even though none of the above makes any sense at all to anyone rational.
No one complains of course. That would make them "disruptive" and they will have to be similarly dealt with. Mostly they just say "Yes MEIN FUHRER!!!!" and then goose step to their desks to pretend to be productive. Because there is no better measure of productivity than looking at someone's screen! KPI's, modern management theory and piles of research to the contrary be damned!
This creates a culture of fear (and loathing...are you based in las vegas per chance?) and since I am the monkey at the top of the tree all I see when I look down are happy, smiling and productive workers. (when they look up however....)
End result: My small and insignificant company has 5 bootlickers and/or slaves who 9-5 their jobs and are very great each day when they are finally allowed to go home and leave their shitty jobs and boss behind them.
My business is going to be sooooo successful and rich one day.....
I was going to mention that but realised that I had no evidence to link the too so for now they are merely convenient coincidence.
But you are 100% correct on that part.
Wool....meet sheeple eyes.
You are arrogantly assuming they give two shits about your opinion on the matter or are even asking. They are not.
Notice that the reaction around the world to being caught out on spying has been to...
- shut the CIA declassification department
- Make the illegal spying legal (e.g. NZ)
- Make it clear whistle blowing is not ok and hunt whistle blowers and call them criminals
- torture existing whistle blowers
- Lie about the extent of spying in THEIR country while condemning it in others (e.g. europe)
Face it. The noose has tightened. The sheep are in the fields blissfully unaware for the most part.
Its the new world phenom! Its trending baby! Yeah!
I don't.
But then I don't believe in our current system of labour and government...which is exactly how it works...
You are such a small thinker aren't you?
The answer is to drop it directly from space using an even bigger satellite.
Boom! Instantaneous and abundant energy for everyone in a 150km radius!*
*Side effects include but are not limited to: death, suffocation, blotting out the sun for a year, diarrhea, anxiety, total financial collapse, food riots and heart attacks.
funding grunts. lol.
I am sure you meant it but I will imagine you didn't because its funnier.
Also grunts don't get funding....they get SFA actually....
Dude. You are so last century.
There is the occulus rift and a 3d sex chat program now....I think...
Never looked into it. My life is sad and lonely enough without twisting the knife....
I know. I wrote it that way on purpose.
That is why you write the comments you do.
Also why you are simply not mentally qualified to critique such topics.
Let me translate:
YOUR BRAIN TOO DUMB.
You got that? I had to shout to get over the sound of your knuckles dragging on the ground...
I have to say you took the slap very well.
I was expecting a small "girly" shriek and sobbing. ;)
4) would not be possible. There would likely be a written agreement in place.
Or the interviewee would have made it clear that any off the paper question would result in the end of the interview immediately.
And the piece might even have to have been preapproved. Who knows?
Certainly not me which is why I used the word "potentially". You may be entirely correct.
lol.
No. This is what's called reality.
Trust me, I am an terminal idealist too. But you need to separate your idealistic world from the real world.
Especially when passing harsh judgement on people who probably don't deserve it.
You are potentially being very naive about the way reporting CAN be done at times. I am not saying this is a good thing, but I am going to challenge you dumping on the reporter like you have.
More than likely her list of questions was pre authorised as is the case in many instances - even more likely when there is "national security" (lol) involved. Almost certainly by the FBI themselves.
So use some empathy here and play a game with me: You are the reporter.
You have three main choices:
1) Try to get through the best and most important questions you can that will slip under the veto of the interviewee and FBI.
2) Not do the interview at all and have no information desemniated.
3) Run a piece about how some retiring FBI guy did not want to answer your questions and hope someone will care about that.
Your call.
I am not saying this situation is optimal. I am just pointing out that firing shots at a reporter from your armchair is a little weak.
Err no. They are being TOLD to catch up by america by america.
This particular party has always wanted to cosy up to the US and do whatever it wants. In this case they want access to the global spying the US is doing on everyone. There is a secret "free" trade agreement being created and signed up to at this time also which undoubtedly has something to do with it..
However.
This bill will enable the cops/govt departments to get access to the GCSB intelligence and for that not to be an offence This bill was in response to the public finding out they have been doing this illegally this whole time. So their response has been to change the law to make it legal and to continue with "business as usual" and much more than likely far worse than before without the fear of any legal ramifications.
And primarily the access they are after is the GCSB's intelligence sharing they do with the US.
This is a cut and dried assault on the freedom of the NZ public. And don't be fooled by the "87%" against the bill. NZ is a nation of sheep and has been for a long long time now. They will do what the shepherd says when the dogs start barking. (and this bill is the sheppard hiring its first pit bull.)
And by sheep I mean sheeple.
You mean pointing to the patently obvious and pervasive failure of an already well disseminated idea on a worldwide scale has nothing to do with negating a flippant, backhanded suggestion whose primary purpose was to insult obese individuals?
Interesting theory you have there....