I guess my beef with the single versus multi-mouse debate is that people look at just the OS. Many apps, especially graphcal ones, are very much helped by multiple buttons.
So, are game manufacturers (think classic FPS) using the right mouse button enforcing a hardware design? Well, ctrl, shift, and alt are being used for something modifying something else. So, that other hand could take some of the workload. Makers of 3DStudio Max and other editors have a reason for having right mouse and middle mouse usage; again ctrl, alt, and shift are already been taking for meta-keys. Personally, I like all the options... cause I don't know how I might like it the best.
A common response is the mighty mouse or just that you can use 3 button mice, give up the debate. Got it... they've adopted a decent idea. Nothing wrong with that, I do the same in my work all the time. I am just trying to show why one might want multiple buttons on a mouse and it is not because UI is faulty. Again, not talking about OS UI design.
Speaking of universities and macs... when I went to Virginia Tech (1997 to 2001 for reference), they had a love affair with them for some reason. And this was before the SystemX supercomputer. The library and other public computer labs all had them. (oh... and that god awful Math Emporium... I had to get drunk just to step foot in there and have to do something I could have easily done in the dorm room) But, go into a EE or CS lab.. Windows (and a handful on some UNIX or UNIX derivative). This was before OSX or Linux being particularly popular (I had FreeBSD myself for that), so I don't think I knew anybody that personally owned a mac. So, if you happen to use one of those labs... it was always joy when the floppy wouldn't fuck up and mess up something because you were going from PC to Mac and back. Thank god for USB is all I got to say, to bad it didn't help me then.
As far as other zealots, the grad student that taught the UNIX basics course was a huge FreeBSD zealot. And I remember him championing it not just above PCs but above Linux which I didn't really know about at the time. So, that was like listening to some tell me how great Omicron Persei 7 was to Omicron Persei 8. (Anyways, 8 is better.. it's the bigger number after all)
At the first sentence, I have problems... "In what used to be a five-and-dime store, a 60,000-square foot space has been converted into Virginia Tech's Math Emporium, a state-of-the-art computer lab that serves 7000 math students each school year."
Um yea... it still felt like a crappy space in a run down mall.
"High ceilings" (?!!) - It's called Wal-Mart or Lowes or a million other places.
"All chairs in the facility are on wheels" - OMG! I can't even believe they would say that was a feature. Does the building contain oxygen as well? Damnit! People need to know!
"Though the classes are essentially self-taught" - So, stating my point that if you didn't need help.. why can't I just do it from home computer.
" 'We were searching for a way that students could signal a staff-member if they needed help,' Williams reveals. 'We talked about using walkie-talkies, and Palm Pilots' " - You mean, It could have been even worse? The horror.
"Advice to Other Districts: Keep your rules to a minimum; encourage students and faculty to use your facility in creative ways." - Like force them there. Got it!
I just wonder about the Virginia Tech and Apple relationship... who is the top and who is the bottom? Or are they flippers?
You might gather from this I dislike VT, but I don't. I guess its the equivalent of Flexo's "Nah, I'm just messin' with ya; you're all right." (2 Futurama references? oh, it's slashdot)
That is sort of how I felt about iPod when it comes to UI. I work on PVIs for helicopters and so measure things in the amount clicks (workload) to perform a certain operation. For using a mp3 player in the car, that is a pretty fair measurement (not the only one though) for a player.
That workload really wasn't any different for changing bands/albums for an iPod as it was for my iRiver H10 (which I admit is a retarded name for a competing product). Sure, the iPod looks flashier and menus are prettier, but functionally for playing music in the car... no different. iPod easily wins the accessories front though. iRiver wins the "simplistic method of slapping mp3s from some folder using a 3rd party tool" award. I think that's one of the awards you don't see during the live telecast like the "Best in Lighting" and such.
There are others like me? Ahh.. when jive meant "going in a diagonal fashion to fool the incredibly inept AI". But, it did make me feel good. BTW, I loved Baseball Simulator though its far from realistic. And, mmm... Blades of Steel. Them were the days....
Why is this modded troll? Maybe the person didn't find it funny, but it's not trolling. However... it seems like marking a non-troll comment as trolling works as meta-trolling (since I took the bait).
Um.. I don't have a thesaurus... so I will say troll again.
Someone should have told the Superfriends and Legion of Doom that. Every episode has some amazing technology that is never used again. In this case, a time machine (and others I am sure I am forgetting as well). Really, this is one of the worst of the worst. And really, if you have this technology... you stealing gold why exactly?
That's sad. I remember my day as a Hokie when we were number one in the movie sharing list [1997 - 2001 for reference]. I guess this is off-campus right?
You know... I always thought Joel did have something else. I had believed that lie (and never investigated it) for a long time. Thanks for pointing out that article.
Shadowy corporation? That's hilarious. As the other responder pointed out, SAIC is more like a bunch of semi-autonomous divisions. Everybody has a security clearance because most of the work is service work for the government. As far as shadowy goes, SAIC gets a lot of its work because it is NOT one of the big players (again, service oriented, so no product to sell). So, they can be more a neutral 3rd party.
Parent is correct. I even experienced more religous tolerance (education about non-Christian faiths etc) in a Catholic school than I did in public schools.
It's funny... I've always wondered about how to describe the "size" of a blackhole too. Especially when playing this Q20. BTW.. it seemed when I thought of the singularity as the size it got it wrong. But, if I thought of being massive, it would guess black hole.
Off-topic: for anyone that has played with the Q20, what are some interesting things you got it too guess? It doesn't seem to do well with risque things (think of the children!). I'll give you a hint... Q20 guessed 'toy'. My reply: Yes, sometimes that is how they are marketed.
I hope he is reading his slashdot simulation at -1 because this is some of the funniest stuff it has created yet. But, I don't even He could read slashdot at -1. (And we know it's a He because the chances of a woman programmer reading slashdot approaches zero I believe... but, I could have been led to believe that by a woman programmer. That's sounds just like Her.)
I could be misreading you, so I apologize if that's the case.
I think you are confusing a finite number of states (or maybe a finite language) with finite tape. Here's a decent link explaining TM's with finite tape:
The problem with saying TMs reduce to a finite state automata, is that usually implies a DFA which doesn't write any information back to the system. That is - no storage, no heap, no stack. See:
is it possible to make program A, that runs program B, which in turn runs program A
Depends on what you mean by "runs". If it is just scheduling... that could be one scheduler calling another that calls the back the first one. If it is managing resources... this is also possible, hell they could share resources if desired. I assume you mean this would happen in parallel, but if you control how the feedback from one program affects another this shouldn't be an issue. I guess my biggest question would be, what is the obersvables to the meta-programmer that is watching all of this? So, Santa or Demiurge if you are listening... that bigger house would be nice.
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing it's self subjectively, that there is no such thing as death and life is merely a dream
Most reality is just simply a consensus on perceptions (or observations). But, I realize that this article is about measurement of time, a pretty agreed upon standard (even if just in the relativistic sense). And time is not defined by perception of time but by something outside the human mind (e.g. sun, springs, gravity, decay).
OTOH, I can see how color is defined by perception. There isn't way to prove that I see red as you see red. Maybe you can prove my cones activate on the same wavelength that yours did, but not how I perceive red.
PS, about that weather...
There's no earthly way of knowing
Which direction we are going
There's no knowing where we're rowing
Or which way the river's flowing
Is it raining, is it snowing
Is a hurricane a-blowing
Slashdot Mirror
I guess my beef with the single versus multi-mouse debate is that people look at just the OS. Many apps, especially graphcal ones, are very much helped by multiple buttons.
... cause I don't know how I might like it the best.
... they've adopted a decent idea. Nothing wrong with that, I do the same in my work all the time. I am just trying to show why one might want multiple buttons on a mouse and it is not because UI is faulty. Again, not talking about OS UI design.
So, are game manufacturers (think classic FPS) using the right mouse button enforcing a hardware design? Well, ctrl, shift, and alt are being used for something modifying something else. So, that other hand could take some of the workload. Makers of 3DStudio Max and other editors have a reason for having right mouse and middle mouse usage; again ctrl, alt, and shift are already been taking for meta-keys. Personally, I like all the options
A common response is the mighty mouse or just that you can use 3 button mice, give up the debate. Got it
Speaking of universities and macs ... when I went to Virginia Tech (1997 to 2001 for reference), they had a love affair with them for some reason. And this was before the SystemX supercomputer. The library and other public computer labs all had them. (oh ... and that god awful Math Emporium ... I had to get drunk just to step foot in there and have to do something I could have easily done in the dorm room) But, go into a EE or CS lab .. Windows (and a handful on some UNIX or UNIX derivative). This was before OSX or Linux being particularly popular (I had FreeBSD myself for that), so I don't think I knew anybody that personally owned a mac. So, if you happen to use one of those labs ... it was always joy when the floppy wouldn't fuck up and mess up something because you were going from PC to Mac and back. Thank god for USB is all I got to say, to bad it didn't help me then.
.. it's the bigger number after all)
.. that name alone!) ... Google it and this is the second link (after the lab's homepage).
...
... it still felt like a crappy space in a run down mall.
.. why can't I just do it from home computer.
... who is the top and who is the bottom? Or are they flippers?
As far as other zealots, the grad student that taught the UNIX basics course was a huge FreeBSD zealot. And I remember him championing it not just above PCs but above Linux which I didn't really know about at the time. So, that was like listening to some tell me how great Omicron Persei 7 was to Omicron Persei 8. (Anyways, 8 is better
Apparently I can't stop my rant against the Math Emporium (I mean
http://www.apple.com/education/profiles/virginiatech/
At the first sentence, I have problems
"In what used to be a five-and-dime store, a 60,000-square foot space has been converted into Virginia Tech's Math Emporium, a state-of-the-art computer lab that serves 7000 math students each school year."
Um yea
"High ceilings" (?!!) - It's called Wal-Mart or Lowes or a million other places.
"All chairs in the facility are on wheels" - OMG! I can't even believe they would say that was a feature. Does the building contain oxygen as well? Damnit! People need to know!
"Though the classes are essentially self-taught" - So, stating my point that if you didn't need help
" 'We were searching for a way that students could signal a staff-member if they needed help,' Williams reveals. 'We talked about using walkie-talkies, and Palm Pilots' " - You mean, It could have been even worse? The horror.
"Advice to Other Districts: Keep your rules to a minimum; encourage students and faculty to use your facility in creative ways." - Like force them there. Got it!
I just wonder about the Virginia Tech and Apple relationship
You might gather from this I dislike VT, but I don't. I guess its the equivalent of Flexo's "Nah, I'm just messin' with ya; you're all right." (2 Futurama references? oh, it's slashdot)
That is sort of how I felt about iPod when it comes to UI. I work on PVIs for helicopters and so measure things in the amount clicks (workload) to perform a certain operation. For using a mp3 player in the car, that is a pretty fair measurement (not the only one though) for a player.
... no different. iPod easily wins the accessories front though. iRiver wins the "simplistic method of slapping mp3s from some folder using a 3rd party tool" award. I think that's one of the awards you don't see during the live telecast like the "Best in Lighting" and such.
That workload really wasn't any different for changing bands/albums for an iPod as it was for my iRiver H10 (which I admit is a retarded name for a competing product). Sure, the iPod looks flashier and menus are prettier, but functionally for playing music in the car
Your ideas that God is Square fan intrigues me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter - Kupo!
I wouldn't lose hope. If you read some above comments, I would take this "meta"-paper with a gel-tab of salt.
Isn't this what we normally do around here? Except we usually don't RTFA(bstract).
There are others like me? Ahh.. when jive meant "going in a diagonal fashion to fool the incredibly inept AI". But, it did make me feel good. BTW, I loved Baseball Simulator though its far from realistic. And, mmm ... Blades of Steel. Them were the days....
His beer is highly overrated as well.
Why is this modded troll? Maybe the person didn't find it funny, but it's not trolling. However ... it seems like marking a non-troll comment as trolling works as meta-trolling (since I took the bait).
.. I don't have a thesaurus ... so I will say troll again.
Um
Someone should have told the Superfriends and Legion of Doom that. Every episode has some amazing technology that is never used again. In this case, a time machine (and others I am sure I am forgetting as well). Really, this is one of the worst of the worst. And really, if you have this technology ... you stealing gold why exactly?
That's sad. I remember my day as a Hokie when we were number one in the movie sharing list [1997 - 2001 for reference]. I guess this is off-campus right?
You know ... I always thought Joel did have something else. I had believed that lie (and never investigated it) for a long time. Thanks for pointing out that article.
Shadowy corporation? That's hilarious. As the other responder pointed out, SAIC is more like a bunch of semi-autonomous divisions. Everybody has a security clearance because most of the work is service work for the government. As far as shadowy goes, SAIC gets a lot of its work because it is NOT one of the big players (again, service oriented, so no product to sell). So, they can be more a neutral 3rd party.
Parent is correct. I even experienced more religous tolerance (education about non-Christian faiths etc) in a Catholic school than I did in public schools.
Off-topic: for anyone that has played with the Q20, what are some interesting things you got it too guess? It doesn't seem to do well with risque things (think of the children!). I'll give you a hint ... Q20 guessed 'toy'. My reply: Yes, sometimes that is how they are marketed.
I hope he is reading his slashdot simulation at -1 because this is some of the funniest stuff it has created yet. But, I don't even He could read slashdot at -1. (And we know it's a He because the chances of a woman programmer reading slashdot approaches zero I believe ... but, I could have been led to believe that by a woman programmer. That's sounds just like Her.)
That's funny, I had that proof too. But it was so deep and undermodded in a slashdot thread that no one saw it.
And look how big that margin is! You could drive a truck through it. Jerky bastard...
Self-Referential Mod +1
I could be misreading you, so I apologize if that's the case.
I think you are confusing a finite number of states (or maybe a finite language) with finite tape. Here's a decent link explaining TM's with finite tape:
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/courses/logsys/turing.htm
The problem with saying TMs reduce to a finite state automata, is that usually implies a DFA which doesn't write any information back to the system. That is - no storage, no heap, no stack. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computability_theory_(computer_science)
Depends on what you mean by "runs". If it is just scheduling
Most reality is just simply a consensus on perceptions (or observations). But, I realize that this article is about measurement of time, a pretty agreed upon standard (even if just in the relativistic sense). And time is not defined by perception of time but by something outside the human mind (e.g. sun, springs, gravity, decay).
OTOH, I can see how color is defined by perception. There isn't way to prove that I see red as you see red. Maybe you can prove my cones activate on the same wavelength that yours did, but not how I perceive red.
PS, about that weather...
that' was great. But, In my day, we walked 100,612.423 cubits to reach the keyboard.
Throw "petulant" in there somewhere and you're set. :me shift spear
As a lot have mentioned above ... 132. But, none realized that this number will be mathmatically proven to be the elusive double-deuce digit.
Wait, did you pick Sumerian Gods to fish me in?
Since we are talking Incas, wouldn't Golden Condor Ufos have done it? Or is this some conspiracy I am not aware of?
Damnit, and I already used my mod points today!