My laywer would say this to me all of the time - Okay, you're in the right, so what do you want the result to be?
You would be well served by deciding what you want out of this - If you are looking for the proper attribution of your code, and proper compliance with the GPL, then a letter from you, followed by a 'nudge' from an attorney (I don't think that you can avoid that) would be my priceless advice
If you are looking for damages (which I suspect that you are not) then you are pushing on a rope
Ya know, if fax.com had just taken the time to buy out the senators and representatives from their region, they probably would have avoided this whole mess, and they probably could have gotten away with less capital outlay - This model has been shown to work with other high profile companies
The telemarketers do, since you will be able to sue them the same as you would sue someone sending junk faxes. In both cases the *marketer is using resources you pay for to deliver their message without your prior consent.
Not buying it - This is a classic death of a thousand paper cuts - If I get a pile of unwanted calls on my phone from different sources, then I am stuck sueing a bunch of different companies for a few lost minutes each? - The collective effect is the problem
His job is to spot the trends coming in the future - And his employer gags him for doing his job - I stand by my remarks in the previous thread on this topic - @Stake will have a very hard time attracting a decent replacement candidate, and their research will now always be suspect...
...at least for the two weeks that it takes modern society to forget that it ever happened
Interesting - Don't repressive governments jail or kill dissidents as part of their means of maintaining power? - Whatever....
Part of being the CTO is to be out on the leading edge of the technology and spotting the trends before the big changes happen
Change can often threaten the intrenched
Consider the case of Philo Farnsworth and Edwin Armstrong - You may know one of them, but probably not the other - Fransworth is largely credited with inventing television,l and Armstrong invented FM radio - David Sarnoff at RCA was a ruthless businessman that saw TV at the future, and FM as a threat to his AM radio network - He crushed both men with endless litigation - Farnsworth died penniless, and Armstrong killed himself - FOllow the money, and don't screw with anyone's livelihood
That being said, you may be cetrain that @stake will have a devil of a time trying to get a decent CTO to repkace Greer, since she will likely be looking over her shoulder and self-editing a bit
But who needs progress and creative thinkers when the folks in Redmond do all of the thinking for you
Greer will be back at work in no time - It is only a matter of how much personal time off he wants to take
Just when you thought that you could count on your legislators to do the right thing apropos telecommunications, they go and put the campaign calls loophole in
Good god - This is as bad as the corrupt morons that run the People's Republic of Massachusetts - Those self-righteous morons banned smoking in all public buildings except the house and senate chambers
I say it time, and time again - The posters who cite the monetary reason have it exactly on the mark - The ISPs are not in this for charity - If they cannot recoup the cost of operating the messaging service, then there is little point to operating it
As I have said in posts in the past, the cost benefit analysis can be pretty subjective - The ISPs may figure the benefit in abstract ways to justify the cost - My guess is that the IM services offer a twofold benefit to the ISP:
Firstly, it is a value added service - It is in the best interest of the ISP to ensure that this service adds value for the customer - Therefore, it makes sense that some would choose to control access to this service - It's not the best PR in the world, but it does send a message that they care about their existing user base
Secondly, it is a retention mechanism and differentiator - You can get email serivces anywhere, but IM is a pretty heavily used application - I personally use a secure IM mechanism on a daily basis as part of my engineering work - The key is that I once read that AOL spent something like $6USD to obtain each customer (all of those CDs amortized across the customer base) and they need to retain those customers to pay for the CDs and the 1000+ free hours of operation that they push - Oddly, it is AIM that is staying more open, go figure
I think that this is a neat idea - Of course, nobody here wanted to discuss the pros and cons of the contest, they just wanted to prove to the rest of the world that they could sling senseless esoterica and criticize Microsoft
Anyhow, all bull$hit aside concerning Lisp, Python, Haskell, Modula-2, Ada, COBOL, ALGOL, FORTRAN, and whatever other nonesense I saw, I'd like to see some of the socially challenged here at/. put their money where their hacking chops are (assuming that their mom's will let them stay up past their bedtime)
It would be amusing to see those who would engage in mindless holy wars put their programming chops to the test, and earn some legitimate bragging rights
I agree with a previous poster that it would be useful to have more contests like this - Here is my programming assignment for you:
Using a computer language of your choice, write a program that will factor a very large integer of arbitrary precision (1024+ digits) in as little time as possible - Points awarded on speed of execution
Access to capital comes at a price - Duh - If there are those who invest the funds to create an NP foundation to promote the development of open source they are going to want to influence things like organization and maangement discipline - Think of the larger charitable foundations that are out there - The investors are not interested in a profit, but they are interested in having their dollars drive a portion of the investor's vision - The price in this case may be the need to actually document code, keep it clean, and produce to somewhat of a schedule - The coders may be volunteers, but the price that the coders pay for access to the fountation's resources is a bit of formalism - Sounds like a fair trade to me
The only arguments that make any sense to bean counters are ones that may be reduced to dollars and cents. All arguments should be of the form:
If we do (not)? X, then we will save Y over Z years for the following reasons: A, B, C,....
If you cannot reduce the argument to ROI, then there is no business reason for doing something - Mind you, ROI takes on many forms - You need to apply your insider perspective to figure out an ROI model that your management will swallow
Forgive the RegEx notation
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I think that we should all learn as much about the SCO product before criticizing it. I suggest calling their toll-free sales number to find out as much as you can about their fine product. Tell all your friends about this cool product, and tell them to call too. Study the marketing materials, and call them if you have questions. Don't worry if the number is busy, just keep trying. SCO has a great marketing organization. Let them know that their marketing message is getting out by calling and calling.
1-888-465-4689
Geez, I kinda like using Evolution - Guess I am not l33t enough - I like the idea of writing applications that break dependency upon Windoze - Open source tax preparation would have been nice a month ago
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You would be well served by deciding what you want out of this - If you are looking for the proper attribution of your code, and proper compliance with the GPL, then a letter from you, followed by a 'nudge' from an attorney (I don't think that you can avoid that) would be my priceless advice
If you are looking for damages (which I suspect that you are not) then you are pushing on a rope
I think that the penguin for Linux is cute - Maybe a Puffin?
Ya know, if fax.com had just taken the time to buy out the senators and representatives from their region, they probably would have avoided this whole mess, and they probably could have gotten away with less capital outlay - This model has been shown to work with other high profile companies
Somebody send me a b-plan - I'm in for seed money!! :)
Not buying it - This is a classic death of a thousand paper cuts - If I get a pile of unwanted calls on my phone from different sources, then I am stuck sueing a bunch of different companies for a few lost minutes each? - The collective effect is the problem
...for the squandering of my incoming minutes?
His job is to spot the trends coming in the future - And his employer gags him for doing his job - I stand by my remarks in the previous thread on this topic - @Stake will have a very hard time attracting a decent replacement candidate, and their research will now always be suspect...
Tracking my Coke is one thing, but please don't track my beer
Part of being the CTO is to be out on the leading edge of the technology and spotting the trends before the big changes happen
Change can often threaten the intrenched
Consider the case of Philo Farnsworth and Edwin Armstrong - You may know one of them, but probably not the other - Fransworth is largely credited with inventing television,l and Armstrong invented FM radio - David Sarnoff at RCA was a ruthless businessman that saw TV at the future, and FM as a threat to his AM radio network - He crushed both men with endless litigation - Farnsworth died penniless, and Armstrong killed himself - FOllow the money, and don't screw with anyone's livelihood
That being said, you may be cetrain that @stake will have a devil of a time trying to get a decent CTO to repkace Greer, since she will likely be looking over her shoulder and self-editing a bit
But who needs progress and creative thinkers when the folks in Redmond do all of the thinking for you
Greer will be back at work in no time - It is only a matter of how much personal time off he wants to take
Good god - This is as bad as the corrupt morons that run the People's Republic of Massachusetts - Those self-righteous morons banned smoking in all public buildings except the house and senate chambers
Some people are truly more equal than others
Bad move, congress
As I have said in posts in the past, the cost benefit analysis can be pretty subjective - The ISPs may figure the benefit in abstract ways to justify the cost - My guess is that the IM services offer a twofold benefit to the ISP:
Firstly, it is a value added service - It is in the best interest of the ISP to ensure that this service adds value for the customer - Therefore, it makes sense that some would choose to control access to this service - It's not the best PR in the world, but it does send a message that they care about their existing user base
Secondly, it is a retention mechanism and differentiator - You can get email serivces anywhere, but IM is a pretty heavily used application - I personally use a secure IM mechanism on a daily basis as part of my engineering work - The key is that I once read that AOL spent something like $6USD to obtain each customer (all of those CDs amortized across the customer base) and they need to retain those customers to pay for the CDs and the 1000+ free hours of operation that they push - Oddly, it is AIM that is staying more open, go figure
Follow the money - It is always about the money
Anyhow, all bull$hit aside concerning Lisp, Python, Haskell, Modula-2, Ada, COBOL, ALGOL, FORTRAN, and whatever other nonesense I saw, I'd like to see some of the socially challenged here at /. put their money where their hacking chops are (assuming that their mom's will let them stay up past their bedtime)
It would be amusing to see those who would engage in mindless holy wars put their programming chops to the test, and earn some legitimate bragging rights
I agree with a previous poster that it would be useful to have more contests like this - Here is my programming assignment for you:
Using a computer language of your choice, write a program that will factor a very large integer of arbitrary precision (1024+ digits) in as little time as possible - Points awarded on speed of execution
8^)
Access to capital comes at a price - Duh - If there are those who invest the funds to create an NP foundation to promote the development of open source they are going to want to influence things like organization and maangement discipline - Think of the larger charitable foundations that are out there - The investors are not interested in a profit, but they are interested in having their dollars drive a portion of the investor's vision - The price in this case may be the need to actually document code, keep it clean, and produce to somewhat of a schedule - The coders may be volunteers, but the price that the coders pay for access to the fountation's resources is a bit of formalism - Sounds like a fair trade to me
The only arguments that make any sense to bean counters are ones that may be reduced to dollars and cents. All arguments should be of the form: If we do (not)? X, then we will save Y over Z years for the following reasons: A, B, C,.... If you cannot reduce the argument to ROI, then there is no business reason for doing something - Mind you, ROI takes on many forms - You need to apply your insider perspective to figure out an ROI model that your management will swallow Forgive the RegEx notation
I think that we should all learn as much about the SCO product before criticizing it. I suggest calling their toll-free sales number to find out as much as you can about their fine product. Tell all your friends about this cool product, and tell them to call too. Study the marketing materials, and call them if you have questions. Don't worry if the number is busy, just keep trying. SCO has a great marketing organization. Let them know that their marketing message is getting out by calling and calling. 1-888-465-4689
Geez, I kinda like using Evolution - Guess I am not l33t enough - I like the idea of writing applications that break dependency upon Windoze - Open source tax preparation would have been nice a month ago
Their new Internet infrastructure cannot have any equipment from Alcatel or Siemens - Nya nya nya