I did not particularly like his teaching style (in the AI class), however that comment applies to any class, free or not. I do 100% like the idea of offering education for a reasonable price.
Look at it this way; in the future an employer needs to select a new hire. 2 people apply, both with master's degress. One paid $40,000 a year for it, one paid $100 a year. Which is the smarter one?
pretty simple actually. I said "impressive things happen when you tell the NSA no", you can take that, as it is, and choose to believe it or not. your opinion from there on will be highly influenced by how likely that statement is to be true or not. if, like the poster who referred to me as "All the fucking retards" do not believe it, I have no interest or need in trying to convince you otherwise.
but for research, mike partain, employed since the 80's in the washington DC area in both government and non government IT activities, including, naval personnel, various gigs for three letter agencies I am legally obligated not to name, finished a career working for the retired chief of cryptography CIA, company called Tecsec. he was the co-creator of the cryptos statue at the CIA that has yet to be cracked (I think its still unbroken, I could be wrong). during my time with him, i never worked on a classified project, but i certainly was aware of impacts classified projects had on the company. Anything else?
ah, i see you have never dealt with the NSA, never signed an agreement for secret information, or a generic security clearance, and thus have no idea what you are talking about. and what evidence do you have that apple has not done the same, other than the total lack of market, especially in iran?
"This is just speculation- I don't know any of this for sure, or have any special knowledge of the situation. But it does add up to being at least plausible."
I have a little knowledge, not a lot, and yes this is exactly the kind of thing that can happen. it is quite impressive what happens when as a company you tell NSA no. In my limited experience, it changes to yes less than a month later.
Simple reality, microsoft probably let a bug/flaw slip through a while back, if that was not the case then they were told to. laugh all you want, but if any other operating system had been the target, do you think the outcome would have been any different? oh, and here is another amazing fact; it will happen again if desired.
I grew up in the washington dc area. and from that I would believe what you are saying about most christians. Then I moved to TN. Beating your wife is still considered ok there by many. Actually pretty much the hole town I lived in. I started looking harder and realized, no its not local, it is indeed the way MANY christians still believe. If you do not believe that you just haven't been around. I will agree with another poster, that more than half that say they are christian aren't and could care less. those are the ones supporting things like gay rights.
I just had a 'discussion' with someone from tennessee. I eventually asked him the exact question; "so you believe homosexuals should be put to death?" his reply was that if we followed the bible, absolutely.
my perspective is based on what I have seen, yours is based on what you have seen. Oh and just a tiny tiny bit of history and you WILL understand that the christians have in the past, been far worse than modern day muslims. The regular christian had no problem murdering entire towns, something the modern extremist muslim does not do. Isn't there a bible story about that? I know, your christian and never read any part of the bible you are not told to read:|
No you break it down according to the way you want it to read.
So let me try your way;
Religious extremist poison woman, because their religion says women should not be educated.
Christianity, while not as strongly, also says a women's place is behind the men.
Rick Santorum was a viable candidate for president, supported by many.
In general, the population of the US that supports 'returning to more bible like laws' is near 50%.
Strong extreme christians, of which rick santorum was one, believe in returning to strong biblical laws. Death for homosexuals. death to adulterers. death to those that eat shellfish. death to all who wear polyester pants with a cotton shirt. death to those that might build a muslim mosk in tennessee. death to those that believe climate change could be caused by pollution. death to those that believe in evolution.
I believe it should be death to those who believe in make believe.
This is what happens when too many people believe too literally in 1000 year old witch craft.
And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.
I'll admit to being a PC fan, in fact I once bought a mac notebook, kept it month, sold it, and bought a 2 times faster PC for the used dollars. But I will admit the mac hardware was quite a bit better (just not as fast) than the PC market.
But the one thing that bugged me constantly, was although the track pad worked in windows, the driver was horrible. At the time (2-3 years ago) there was like a 2000 entry complaint thread on apple about it, including the fact it was a long term problem. Has it gotten any better?
Me, drinking Microsoft coolaide? Honestly, no. I worked for MS for 6 months and got fired. I should be bitter, but I'm not. And as I mentioned I have a lot of experience with linux. Recently trying to get a stable Android platform running (fail, eclipse sucks. intellij is ok, but it is windows), and ROS platform (bad fail, mismatched libraries, failed installation utilities, all documented, it is not just me). Actually the desktop is decent ATM (last Ubuntu), but the one before was trash.
I just mention to say I am not a drinking Microsoft coolaid, nor linux coolaid (but i do like plain coolaid). I absolutely think linux, and other free software has a place, it would just NEVER be at a place I owned trying to make money. If you can't understand that, you just don't know anything about real life.
$7,850 for reading instructions, or was that an intentional dodge? Try again, but you're starting out from way in the hole. Oh, and reading comprehension, that will an extra $1,000; I obviously want it installed on my hardware, which a fairly current asus mb with a i930 (not like its some obscure PC or anything).
Don't even bother dumbshit. Do I need to google very recent releases of Ubuntu SERVER that can't even read IDE disks for you? I try about all of them all of the time, from installing from floppies (do you even know what they are?) to current distros running (reluctantly) on a thumbdrive now. And they never fail to disappoint a critic. Or how about trying ROS. Install it from scratch on ANY current distribution, and have it work without manual intervention (going outside the installation instructions, if you can even find them), and I will pay you $5000. How's that for confidence? I'm not bashing it because its buggy. For free it probably should be buggy. Its great to learn how to fix things. But you guys can not just admit that and move on, promote it for what it does well, and stop fantasizing about what it doesn't do so good.
OMG. You are the first person to ever think of this, NOT. And the results show the results. Many have tried, none have been successful. When I hear Linux people say "it works fine for me" it usually means "I don't do very much, and not anything more complicated than notepad."
Anyone doing more than that has had to 'fix it themselves' for something.
90% of business is interested in deploying for the least costs. That means buying off the shelf, and having an install of additional products that work. I know you will not admit it but, Linux is broken off the shelf 8 out of 10 times. It requires admins that are much more rare than dime a dozen MS admins to spend days/weeks getting a stable platform. Then go to which web site and buy what software? The huge vast majority is written for windows. There is some for the Mac. I do not know of 1 web site store, that sells commercial software for linux, so it ends up being even more buggy untested non-QA open source junk. Sure there are a few decent open source apps, but not many. And I don't know of any outside of server oriented stuff.
Until you recognize the obvious truths, you will keep asking why, and keep getting the same answer. It is no big secret, open source, with few exceptions, does not come close to matching commercial software. Why should/would it? By the very definition you can not make money creating it, so how good is it ever going to be? A tiny success here and there in a small part of a very large market. It is an OS for and by people wanting to tinker with the guts. It fits some disciplines (Robotics/ROS) but not day to day business users.
It was a question, it therefore can not be incorrect.
If you are referring to the questions assumptions, perhaps it would be better phrased as 'statistically, people who use php write horrible code from a security perspective, most of the time'.
Modded insightful 5, and yet several people have commented how it is outright wrong. No bias here.
"All mainstream operating systems"? WTF does that mean? Name all the operating systems that have more than 50% share that are POSIX compliant. What, 50% does not mean mainstream, less than 10% does? You and I have different ideas of what is mainstream, I'm not surprised coming from a Unix relic.
Before MS I played your game as well. We made up all sorts of crap to stick with our desired vendor. My favorite was the FIPS certification of COBOL compilers. Not 1 single FIPS compliant program existed in the federal government. but by requiring it in our bids, we could be sure only IBM would win. The same went for POSIX, There was not 1 single POSIX compliant application. Is was a standard made for the sole purpose of keeping Microsoft out, AND spending 3-4 times what you needed to spend to get the job done on (Now out of business) SUN, because it was a status symbol.
Yeah I understand exactly what it was about. It was the same as specifying 'must reboot from a dial in modem' when specifying a multi-million dollar mainframe contract. (hint, only one vendor could do it).
Which was totally useless because POSIX didn't even have a way to print a piece of paper. How useful is that?
I kind of remembering it also not having ANY networking, but I'm not 100% sure on that. It has been so long, like I said, POSIX=relic. I came from the government mainframe environment before working at Microsoft, I know better, I know how you guys work.
For the record, I have participated on the MS team that bids government contracts. Not recently but many many years ago, when the climate was reversed.
MS: "We would like to bid on this project" govt: "No you cant, it must be SUN" or "no you must be ???" I can't even remember what the it was called, that is how truly relative it was, not relative then, forgotten about now. oh yeah, POSIX. Anyone even remember it?
So anyhow, despite objections for years MS became the standard anyway for quite a while.
If you can blame it on sleazy marketing then, why can't you blame the present shift on the same thing? The fact is he who does the best/most lobbying wins.
But nice to see you dance around the comparison to the reppellicans. Practice all the dancing you can, you are going to need if your man wins. The bar for dirty politics has been raised quite a bit by the current vocal minority, don't cry (too hard) when it comes back at ya.
Its obvious you copied pasted that from some politically balanced site, like FOX news.
As an exercise, please re-list, indicating where the president can unilaterally act and did not, in passing said promises.
Otherwise its all political BS like every president makes every election. Like Newt magically making gas cost $2 a gallon, like that's going to happen because a presidential candidate promises it. Were you born yesterday?
Whine all you want. How many sent a message to your representatives on this issue? How many will lounge at home come next election? Taking advantage of lethargy is what democracy is all about. Sit around and whine about it and do nothing.... perfect.
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I did not particularly like his teaching style (in the AI class), however that comment applies to any class, free or not. I do 100% like the idea of offering education for a reasonable price.
Look at it this way; in the future an employer needs to select a new hire. 2 people apply, both with master's degress. One paid $40,000 a year for it, one paid $100 a year. Which is the smarter one?
Indeed, you get what you paid for, not.
pretty simple actually. I said "impressive things happen when you tell the NSA no", you can take that, as it is, and choose to believe it or not. your opinion from there on will be highly influenced by how likely that statement is to be true or not. if, like the poster who referred to me as "All the fucking retards" do not believe it, I have no interest or need in trying to convince you otherwise.
but for research, mike partain, employed since the 80's in the washington DC area in both government and non government IT activities, including, naval personnel, various gigs for three letter agencies I am legally obligated not to name, finished a career working for the retired chief of cryptography CIA, company called Tecsec. he was the co-creator of the cryptos statue at the CIA that has yet to be cracked (I think its still unbroken, I could be wrong). during my time with him, i never worked on a classified project, but i certainly was aware of impacts classified projects had on the company. Anything else?
ah, i see you have never dealt with the NSA, never signed an agreement for secret information, or a generic security clearance, and thus have no idea what you are talking about. and what evidence do you have that apple has not done the same, other than the total lack of market, especially in iran?
Clamp it troll.
"This is just speculation- I don't know any of this for sure, or have any special knowledge of the situation. But it does add up to being at least plausible."
I have a little knowledge, not a lot, and yes this is exactly the kind of thing that can happen. it is quite impressive what happens when as a company you tell NSA no. In my limited experience, it changes to yes less than a month later.
Simple reality, microsoft probably let a bug/flaw slip through a while back, if that was not the case then they were told to. laugh all you want, but if any other operating system had been the target, do you think the outcome would have been any different? oh, and here is another amazing fact; it will happen again if desired.
I grew up in the washington dc area. and from that I would believe what you are saying about most christians. Then I moved to TN. Beating your wife is still considered ok there by many. Actually pretty much the hole town I lived in. I started looking harder and realized, no its not local, it is indeed the way MANY christians still believe. If you do not believe that you just haven't been around. I will agree with another poster, that more than half that say they are christian aren't and could care less. those are the ones supporting things like gay rights.
:|
I just had a 'discussion' with someone from tennessee. I eventually asked him the exact question; "so you believe homosexuals should be put to death?" his reply was that if we followed the bible, absolutely.
my perspective is based on what I have seen, yours is based on what you have seen. Oh and just a tiny tiny bit of history and you WILL understand that the christians have in the past, been far worse than modern day muslims. The regular christian had no problem murdering entire towns, something the modern extremist muslim does not do. Isn't there a bible story about that? I know, your christian and never read any part of the bible you are not told to read
No you break it down according to the way you want it to read.
So let me try your way;
Religious extremist poison woman, because their religion says women should not be educated.
Christianity, while not as strongly, also says a women's place is behind the men.
Rick Santorum was a viable candidate for president, supported by many.
In general, the population of the US that supports 'returning to more bible like laws' is near 50%.
Strong extreme christians, of which rick santorum was one, believe in returning to strong biblical laws. Death for homosexuals. death to adulterers. death to those that eat shellfish. death to all who wear polyester pants with a cotton shirt. death to those that might build a muslim mosk in tennessee. death to those that believe climate change could be caused by pollution. death to those that believe in evolution.
I believe it should be death to those who believe in make believe.
Am I clearer now?
This is what happens when too many people believe too literally in 1000 year old witch craft.
And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.
I'll admit to being a PC fan, in fact I once bought a mac notebook, kept it month, sold it, and bought a 2 times faster PC for the used dollars. But I will admit the mac hardware was quite a bit better (just not as fast) than the PC market.
But the one thing that bugged me constantly, was although the track pad worked in windows, the driver was horrible. At the time (2-3 years ago) there was like a 2000 entry complaint thread on apple about it, including the fact it was a long term problem. Has it gotten any better?
Me, drinking Microsoft coolaide? Honestly, no. I worked for MS for 6 months and got fired. I should be bitter, but I'm not. And as I mentioned I have a lot of experience with linux. Recently trying to get a stable Android platform running (fail, eclipse sucks. intellij is ok, but it is windows), and ROS platform (bad fail, mismatched libraries, failed installation utilities, all documented, it is not just me). Actually the desktop is decent ATM (last Ubuntu), but the one before was trash.
I just mention to say I am not a drinking Microsoft coolaid, nor linux coolaid (but i do like plain coolaid). I absolutely think linux, and other free software has a place, it would just NEVER be at a place I owned trying to make money. If you can't understand that, you just don't know anything about real life.
"Or how about trying ROS. Install it...."
$7,850 for reading instructions, or was that an intentional dodge? Try again, but you're starting out from way in the hole. Oh, and reading comprehension, that will an extra $1,000; I obviously want it installed on my hardware, which a fairly current asus mb with a i930 (not like its some obscure PC or anything).
Don't even bother dumbshit. Do I need to google very recent releases of Ubuntu SERVER that can't even read IDE disks for you? I try about all of them all of the time, from installing from floppies (do you even know what they are?) to current distros running (reluctantly) on a thumbdrive now. And they never fail to disappoint a critic. Or how about trying ROS. Install it from scratch on ANY current distribution, and have it work without manual intervention (going outside the installation instructions, if you can even find them), and I will pay you $5000. How's that for confidence? I'm not bashing it because its buggy. For free it probably should be buggy. Its great to learn how to fix things. But you guys can not just admit that and move on, promote it for what it does well, and stop fantasizing about what it doesn't do so good.
OMG. You are the first person to ever think of this, NOT. And the results show the results. Many have tried, none have been successful. When I hear Linux people say "it works fine for me" it usually means "I don't do very much, and not anything more complicated than notepad."
Anyone doing more than that has had to 'fix it themselves' for something.
90% of business is interested in deploying for the least costs. That means buying off the shelf, and having an install of additional products that work. I know you will not admit it but, Linux is broken off the shelf 8 out of 10 times. It requires admins that are much more rare than dime a dozen MS admins to spend days/weeks getting a stable platform. Then go to which web site and buy what software? The huge vast majority is written for windows. There is some for the Mac. I do not know of 1 web site store, that sells commercial software for linux, so it ends up being even more buggy untested non-QA open source junk. Sure there are a few decent open source apps, but not many. And I don't know of any outside of server oriented stuff.
Until you recognize the obvious truths, you will keep asking why, and keep getting the same answer. It is no big secret, open source, with few exceptions, does not come close to matching commercial software. Why should/would it? By the very definition you can not make money creating it, so how good is it ever going to be? A tiny success here and there in a small part of a very large market. It is an OS for and by people wanting to tinker with the guts. It fits some disciplines (Robotics/ROS) but not day to day business users.
I have, and not really. Compared to a GUI, they are the same.
they cloned him as Mitt Romney and he is on the way, patience.
My head is ugly. I want all new please.
haha, good point. I'm glad you left c# out of it :)
It was a question, it therefore can not be incorrect.
If you are referring to the questions assumptions, perhaps it would be better phrased as 'statistically, people who use php write horrible code from a security perspective, most of the time'.
Modded insightful 5, and yet several people have commented how it is outright wrong. No bias here.
"All mainstream operating systems"? WTF does that mean? Name all the operating systems that have more than 50% share that are POSIX compliant. What, 50% does not mean mainstream, less than 10% does? You and I have different ideas of what is mainstream, I'm not surprised coming from a Unix relic.
Before MS I played your game as well. We made up all sorts of crap to stick with our desired vendor. My favorite was the FIPS certification of COBOL compilers. Not 1 single FIPS compliant program existed in the federal government. but by requiring it in our bids, we could be sure only IBM would win. The same went for POSIX, There was not 1 single POSIX compliant application. Is was a standard made for the sole purpose of keeping Microsoft out, AND spending 3-4 times what you needed to spend to get the job done on (Now out of business) SUN, because it was a status symbol.
Yeah I understand exactly what it was about. It was the same as specifying 'must reboot from a dial in modem' when specifying a multi-million dollar mainframe contract. (hint, only one vendor could do it).
I call bullshit. POSIX was something made up to keep Microsoft out. But Microsoft played that game, they mad NT POSIX level 1 certified; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
Which was totally useless because POSIX didn't even have a way to print a piece of paper. How useful is that?
I kind of remembering it also not having ANY networking, but I'm not 100% sure on that. It has been so long, like I said, POSIX=relic. I came from the government mainframe environment before working at Microsoft, I know better, I know how you guys work.
For the record, I have participated on the MS team that bids government contracts. Not recently but many many years ago, when the climate was reversed.
MS: "We would like to bid on this project" govt: "No you cant, it must be SUN" or "no you must be ???" I can't even remember what the it was called, that is how truly relative it was, not relative then, forgotten about now. oh yeah, POSIX. Anyone even remember it?
So anyhow, despite objections for years MS became the standard anyway for quite a while.
If you can blame it on sleazy marketing then, why can't you blame the present shift on the same thing? The fact is he who does the best/most lobbying wins.
But nice to see you dance around the comparison to the reppellicans. Practice all the dancing you can, you are going to need if your man wins. The bar for dirty politics has been raised quite a bit by the current vocal minority, don't cry (too hard) when it comes back at ya.
Its obvious you copied pasted that from some politically balanced site, like FOX news.
As an exercise, please re-list, indicating where the president can unilaterally act and did not, in passing said promises.
Otherwise its all political BS like every president makes every election. Like Newt magically making gas cost $2 a gallon, like that's going to happen because a presidential candidate promises it. Were you born yesterday?
Only a few days after, and today it is printed that Apple is 10 years behind Microsoft in security.
Hey Apple fan brats, you're idiots!
Please please mod me troll - I love it when you guys make that pig squealing sound.
Whine all you want. How many sent a message to your representatives on this issue? How many will lounge at home come next election? Taking advantage of lethargy is what democracy is all about. Sit around and whine about it and do nothing .... perfect.