This falls apart when you consider that Apple doesn't let you run your own OS on their hardware. They make it as hard as possible to run Windows on a Mac, they've been caught trying to prevent Linux from overtaking the bootloader.
Really?
Hmm...I've not had problems putting Linux on mac hardware replacing OSX. I've never tried windows, as that I rarely have a need for MS Windows.
For times I do need windows, I run it easily in VMWare....
Especially if you consider VMs, there is absolutely not problem running alternate or multiple OSes on mac computer hardware.
On the tablets and phones, well, you may be right, I've not tried any of that. However, I do posit that even on android tablets, most manufacturers are NOT making it easy for you to get in, root them, and do any tweaks or installs you might wish, they certainly aren't user friendly in that respect either
So.. You almost shot a guy in the face when you were a kid and consider that to be 'responsible'?
Yes.
Seriously, what do you think you would have done if the guy actually came into your house and proceeded towards your kitchen to drink water and/or rob your house?
I would have shot and tried to kill a home invader. Same as I would do today.
I do not have to retreat inside my home, and that's the case in most states.
You said above you have no problem with an intruder dying. Honestly...think about this for a second. You come home, find someone robbing your home, and shoot the fucker. He's a 15 year old unarmed kid stealing shit. Or a 40-year-old unarmed asshole robbing your place. Yeah, he made some shitty choices obviously, but does he deserve to die?
Yes.
If everyone out there knew there would be a good chance they'd die, upon entering someone else's property for any criminal intent, I'd dare say the majority might rethink those 'shitty choices'.
The massacres aren't a daily occurance. Most of the killings in the US, are criminal/thug/gangmember on criminal/thug/gangmember. And frankly, I don't have a problem with them taking each other out....eases the burden on the judicial system.
Let them all whack each other...then, let the justice system deal with the last one standing.
I have no issue with drawing my weapon. Even discharging it to scare off an intruder.
But to shoot someone full of holes? Not unless I'm expecting to die unless I don't.
A mugger in the street? He can have my shit. Same with the guy robbing my house, my business. My shit is not worth someone dying over. Let him have my stuff.
As "Dirty Harry" once said..."A man has to know his limitations.
Everyone has to make up their own minds, whether to be a gun owner or not...and if they are one, how far they will take things.
I have no problem blowing away an intruder in my house that is there illegally. My first instinct is they are there to do me and family harm. I will assume they are armed.
And I do feel MY property is worth THEM dying for. If they had not broken in and tried to take stuff, that would never have happened, would it?
And doing so, even for preventing theft, in some states is perfectly legal.
In most states I know of...you never have to retreat when in your own home.
On a more humorous note..I do know that if you're in New Orleans, and you shoot a criminal in your house, and they manage to stumble out of the house and die in the yard...the cops will often help you drag the body back inside just to make things "tidier".
That's the problem...WE are responsible people. WE teach our kids gun safety. WE make sure our families know how to use a firearm. WE make sure safety is drilled into their fucking heads. Because WE know just how fucking dangerous guns can be. WE are responsible gun owners.
But WE are not the only gun owners out there. "You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands". Bitch, please do the world a favor and just fucking blow your own brains out with it before you take out an innocent.
On average, 84 people die daily accross the USA in gun-related deaths. Every. Single. Day. This is the blood price of the 2nd Amendment. May god have mercy on our souls.
So....your answer to this is to once again...cater to the lowest denominator?
Because some idiots can't be responsible, then those of us who can must suffer having our rights reduced?
Seems to be all to common these days in the US for everything...having everything based on the lowest common denominator. I won't even go into the educational systems, but it is a perfect example.
But seriously, I'm getting tired of it.
Just because some fuckwad act irresponsibly with a high capacity rifle....I shouldn't be able to buy and own one and use one in a responsible manner?
Off the top of my head, how culture views human life, availability of help for mental distress (ie if someone feels they're going to do something dangerous, can they actually get help without being treated like a murderer), society's view of the mentally ill (will they see you as someone responsible enough to get help for a disease, or 'get this fucking crazy away from me'), how pervasive classism is, quality of life, number of people living in poverty, how poor that poverty actually is, etc.
That's true.
Aside from peoples' rants on here about not being 'free health care in the US for mental problems'....if the person has any sanity left, they do NOT want to seek mental health.
Talk about a serious blot on your record. It can keep you out of many jobs that you might need. Forget a security clearance....but even shy of that, likely hits you on insurance rates, if you can get a loan, etc.
Even if you get better, or it was something temporary....if you ever had to be treated for mental health issues, that shit will follow you around for the rest of your life, just like being branded a sex offender will do.
Except the damages and discrimination will be a little more covert.
You seem to take no notice of recidivism rates in the various crimes you throw up as equivalences.
Quoting a previous poster on this thread:
"This is a common misunderstanding as two minutes on Google will show. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender#Recidivism sex offenders have a recidivism rate of 5.3% (or 43% when considering any crime rather then sex crimes) compared with 68% for non-sex crime recidivism."
If someone has served their time...why are they still being persecuted?
Does this same type of continued persecution follow convicted murderers, which would arguably be LESS on the 'bad' scale, since they actually ended someone's life?
Are convicted murderers, once term served and not on probation still required to register wherever they go...and have this type of ban placed on them?
I'm curious to see your reasoning for that. I'm kind of swiss on this whole issue, but I want to know exactly how kicking someone off of an online game is a violation of their fundamental rights as a human being.
I wouldn't go that far...and trust me on this, I don't want to be coming off as defending these guys, but, if they've served their sentences, they should be free to go about their business.
I don't understand why the laws are allowed to keep persecuting these people after they serve their sentences.
Do we do this to convicted murderers? Hell, those people ENDED someone's life, and yet they don't get persecuted upon like these guys who must have at least left their victims breathing and able to see the light of another day??
If you've served your time, you should be free to go....and do what you can with the rest of your life, for a living and for pleasure, as long as it doesn't involve something illegal again.
If a criminal has served their time, why can't they play their video games in anonymity?
You want a better way to protect yourself, where nobody will likely die?
Err, I have no problem with an intruder dying. Anyone that breaks into my house, I assume they are there armed and to cause me bodily harm, and I have no problem emptying a few clips into them. An intruder will, ideally....be carried out in a body bag.
If you've got your guns properly locked in a safe, then they're worthless "in an emergency"...you'll never get to them in time.
Why in the world would I put all my weapons (the ones for protection) in a safe? That indeed would be stupid.
I have several firearms, loaded, chambered and ready to fire hidden throughout my house. I can get to one quite quickly no matter where I am in the house.
I have no little kids...but if I did, they'd be properly trained with firearms as I was.
As a very young child, about 5th grade or so, I was taken out and shown how to operate our house guns. I also had the "fear of God" put into me too, that I was NOT to touch them, unless I had to protect myself. I did have someone come to the house as a kid once when I was alone, I got the gun and had it ready to fire, till the bum that kept knocking on my front door finally left, at which point I unloaded the weapon again, put it up, and called my parents to inform them what I had to do...etc.
It is called parenting...you SHOULD have control over what your children do, and gun safety (if you choose to have one in the home) is part of that.
Hmm...if they mandated electronic safties in all guns...
Then, the perfect thing to do, if you want to get away with something, is bring along some type of HERF gun...fire it and disable everyones guns (assuming you can keep yours protected from the signal....and you have immediate advantage.
I 100% agree that we should look into non-lethal alternatives. I'd rather accidentally shoot my daughter with a taser when she sneaks in after curfew and watch her crap her pants than shoot her with a pistol and watch her bleed out.
Sounds like you should worry about using a bit more parental authority.
I never sneaked out of the house...never ever, ever, because we had guns in the house. For that very reason I would never sneak out of the house.
From a very young age, my parents let me know where the gun was, I wash taken and shown how to use it properly. I also had the fear of God put into me if I ever even thought of touching it when not appropriate. I also knew not to sneak out to risk being shot as an intruder.
One time I was home alone...it was raining, and some bum started ringing the doorbell, wanted some water, etc.
I went to their bedroom, got the gun, cocked and loaded the chamber and safety off....and held that as I yelled through the door for him to leave immediately.
When he finally left, I took the clip out, took the round out of the chamber and back into the clip, clip back into gun with safety on...put it back in place and immediately called my Mom at work to tell what had happened.
Can you not trust your kids to be as responsible?
If not, then I posit the problem is not guns...but a little more parental guidance is needed by the offspring.
Now, if you're in the middle of assfuck, nowhere and the police are an hour away....fine, get guns for your protection. Otherwise, you're jsut another fucking shithead that's armed.
Err.....you need one in cities too.
The police are not there to protect you and "prevent crime". They are there to establish a crime scene, and figure out who did what after the fact in most cases.
It is up to you to protect yourself, period.
IF the cops were there to protect you, then they'd show up faster than a delivery pizza generally does when you call.
ONe side is just as kneejerk at the other at this point in time.
Reps blame lack of God....Dems blame weapons...and both seem to be targeting video games.
Geez, I wish this story would blow over here already, and let us get back to normal life. I"m fucking tired of this stupid story. Sad? Yes. Tragic? Yes. almost 2 weeks of constant coverage enough? Yes.
Risk of new, unneeded, badly thought out, reduction in sane, healthy, law abiding citizens' rights? Geez, I hope not...but worried.
The last thing we need to have the pols doing in Washington is rushing new shit through.
Actually it is allmost fortunate that they HAVE to deal with the fiscal cliff stuff, and Christmas is upon us with holidays, etc.
I'm hoping that this story will fade quickly, they'll be busy...and nothing stupid gets pushed through quickly.
They're eminently sensible guidelines for prosecution, particularly in light of the current situation. They are in no way "chilling."
Anything shy of changing the LAWS themselves, is chilling.
The laws are chilling....selective enforcement...maybe a little less, but who's to say when the next one in charge comes in, they go the other way and try to over prosecute and stretch the laws even more?
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Does the FCC actually have the authority to do this? Won't they be slapped down again?
How about congress actually pass a LAW on this, after all, they are supposed to be the legislators, eh?
Still, my answer to all the "Global Warming" rants is:
"Meh".
What do I really care? I'll be long dead and gone by the time it is a real problem, so, I'll be enjoying my life now as I please thank you.
Really?
Hmm...I've not had problems putting Linux on mac hardware replacing OSX. I've never tried windows, as that I rarely have a need for MS Windows.
For times I do need windows, I run it easily in VMWare....
Especially if you consider VMs, there is absolutely not problem running alternate or multiple OSes on mac computer hardware.
On the tablets and phones, well, you may be right, I've not tried any of that. However, I do posit that even on android tablets, most manufacturers are NOT making it easy for you to get in, root them, and do any tweaks or installs you might wish, they certainly aren't user friendly in that respect either
Yes.
I would have shot and tried to kill a home invader. Same as I would do today.
I do not have to retreat inside my home, and that's the case in most states.
Yes.
If everyone out there knew there would be a good chance they'd die, upon entering someone else's property for any criminal intent, I'd dare say the majority might rethink those 'shitty choices'.
The massacres aren't a daily occurance. Most of the killings in the US, are criminal/thug/gangmember on criminal/thug/gangmember. And frankly, I don't have a problem with them taking each other out....eases the burden on the judicial system.
Let them all whack each other...then, let the justice system deal with the last one standing.
As "Dirty Harry" once said..."A man has to know his limitations.
Everyone has to make up their own minds, whether to be a gun owner or not...and if they are one, how far they will take things.
I have no problem blowing away an intruder in my house that is there illegally. My first instinct is they are there to do me and family harm. I will assume they are armed.
And I do feel MY property is worth THEM dying for. If they had not broken in and tried to take stuff, that would never have happened, would it?
And doing so, even for preventing theft, in some states is perfectly legal.
In most states I know of...you never have to retreat when in your own home.
On a more humorous note..I do know that if you're in New Orleans, and you shoot a criminal in your house, and they manage to stumble out of the house and die in the yard...the cops will often help you drag the body back inside just to make things "tidier".
So....your answer to this is to once again...cater to the lowest denominator?
Because some idiots can't be responsible, then those of us who can must suffer having our rights reduced?
Seems to be all to common these days in the US for everything...having everything based on the lowest common denominator. I won't even go into the educational systems, but it is a perfect example.
But seriously, I'm getting tired of it.
Just because some fuckwad act irresponsibly with a high capacity rifle....I shouldn't be able to buy and own one and use one in a responsible manner?
That's true.
Aside from peoples' rants on here about not being 'free health care in the US for mental problems'....if the person has any sanity left, they do NOT want to seek mental health.
Talk about a serious blot on your record. It can keep you out of many jobs that you might need. Forget a security clearance....but even shy of that, likely hits you on insurance rates, if you can get a loan, etc.
Even if you get better, or it was something temporary....if you ever had to be treated for mental health issues, that shit will follow you around for the rest of your life, just like being branded a sex offender will do.
Except the damages and discrimination will be a little more covert.
And blow....
Quoting a previous poster on this thread:
"This is a common misunderstanding as two minutes on Google will show. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender#Recidivism sex offenders have a recidivism rate of 5.3% (or 43% when considering any crime rather then sex crimes) compared with 68% for non-sex crime recidivism."
Not on a first conviction!!!!
You aren't branded for life with one DWI conviction...and don't suffer that type of punishment.
You have to have been convicted in most places like 5+ times to get that kind of driving ban placed on you.
Hell, there's people out there with 2-3 DWI convictions under their belts, driving again perfectly legal after paying their 'legal dues'.
Does this same type of continued persecution follow convicted murderers, which would arguably be LESS on the 'bad' scale, since they actually ended someone's life?
Are convicted murderers, once term served and not on probation still required to register wherever they go...and have this type of ban placed on them?
I wouldn't go that far...and trust me on this, I don't want to be coming off as defending these guys, but, if they've served their sentences, they should be free to go about their business.
I don't understand why the laws are allowed to keep persecuting these people after they serve their sentences.
Do we do this to convicted murderers? Hell, those people ENDED someone's life, and yet they don't get persecuted upon like these guys who must have at least left their victims breathing and able to see the light of another day??
If you've served your time, you should be free to go....and do what you can with the rest of your life, for a living and for pleasure, as long as it doesn't involve something illegal again.
If a criminal has served their time, why can't they play their video games in anonymity?
Err, I have no problem with an intruder dying. Anyone that breaks into my house, I assume they are there armed and to cause me bodily harm, and I have no problem emptying a few clips into them. An intruder will, ideally....be carried out in a body bag.
Why in the world would I put all my weapons (the ones for protection) in a safe? That indeed would be stupid.
I have several firearms, loaded, chambered and ready to fire hidden throughout my house. I can get to one quite quickly no matter where I am in the house.
I have no little kids...but if I did, they'd be properly trained with firearms as I was.
As a very young child, about 5th grade or so, I was taken out and shown how to operate our house guns. I also had the "fear of God" put into me too, that I was NOT to touch them, unless I had to protect myself. I did have someone come to the house as a kid once when I was alone, I got the gun and had it ready to fire, till the bum that kept knocking on my front door finally left, at which point I unloaded the weapon again, put it up, and called my parents to inform them what I had to do...etc.
It is called parenting...you SHOULD have control over what your children do, and gun safety (if you choose to have one in the home) is part of that.
Err...automatic-fire weapons are NOT readily available in the US.
You have to get a VERY restrictive, and often expensive and hard to get special license to own an automatic weapon.
Off the top of my head, I think this only applies to automatic (assault or otherwise) weapons that were made prior to about 1986?
You cannot have an automatic weapon newer than that (the date may be off a little).
Where do you get this idea that you can freely and easily get and own a fully automatic-fire assault weapon in the USA?
Then, the perfect thing to do, if you want to get away with something, is bring along some type of HERF gun ...fire it and disable everyones guns (assuming you can keep yours protected from the signal....and you have immediate advantage.
Sounds like you should worry about using a bit more parental authority.
I never sneaked out of the house...never ever, ever, because we had guns in the house. For that very reason I would never sneak out of the house.
From a very young age, my parents let me know where the gun was, I wash taken and shown how to use it properly. I also had the fear of God put into me if I ever even thought of touching it when not appropriate. I also knew not to sneak out to risk being shot as an intruder.
One time I was home alone...it was raining, and some bum started ringing the doorbell, wanted some water, etc.
I went to their bedroom, got the gun, cocked and loaded the chamber and safety off....and held that as I yelled through the door for him to leave immediately.
When he finally left, I took the clip out, took the round out of the chamber and back into the clip, clip back into gun with safety on...put it back in place and immediately called my Mom at work to tell what had happened.
Can you not trust your kids to be as responsible?
If not, then I posit the problem is not guns...but a little more parental guidance is needed by the offspring.
Err.....you need one in cities too.
The police are not there to protect you and "prevent crime". They are there to establish a crime scene, and figure out who did what after the fact in most cases.
It is up to you to protect yourself, period.
IF the cops were there to protect you, then they'd show up faster than a delivery pizza generally does when you call.
Why in the world would I have neighbor kids running around in my house...???
I prefer t have my guns remain analog...
I don't want to have some kind of freakin' gun ID malfunction if someone has broken into my house, and I need to shoot them.
You know...guns actually are pretty safe. You rarely hear of one jumping off the shelf on its own and shooting someone.
Maybe more gun safety is to be taught? Why not have that as an elective class in schools? Gun education?
Ii hope you're not trying to say you want them to legislate that you MUST by law keep your firearms all locked up in a safe?!?!
Exactly what good will that do you when someone breaks into your house...and you quickly need access to a weapon to defend yourself?
Frankly, I have loaded guns hidden in all sorts of places around my house, so that I'm never far from one if I need one.
I'm not going to mass kill anyone....why should it be against the law for me to do what I wish like this in my home?
Reps blame lack of God....Dems blame weapons...and both seem to be targeting video games.
Geez, I wish this story would blow over here already, and let us get back to normal life. I"m fucking tired of this stupid story. Sad? Yes. Tragic? Yes. almost 2 weeks of constant coverage enough? Yes.
Risk of new, unneeded, badly thought out, reduction in sane, healthy, law abiding citizens' rights? Geez, I hope not...but worried.
The last thing we need to have the pols doing in Washington is rushing new shit through.
Actually it is allmost fortunate that they HAVE to deal with the fiscal cliff stuff, and Christmas is upon us with holidays, etc.
I'm hoping that this story will fade quickly, they'll be busy...and nothing stupid gets pushed through quickly.
Remember how we got stuck with the Patriot Act??
Anything shy of changing the LAWS themselves, is chilling.
The laws are chilling....selective enforcement...maybe a little less, but who's to say when the next one in charge comes in, they go the other way and try to over prosecute and stretch the laws even more?
They'll completely own this country in about another decade, if that long.