"As for the topic, what rock does this guy live under where he didn't know you need to supply an SSN to do a credit check for a phone contract? If you need credit you must ID yourself, simple as that. SSN or other means, doesn't matter. They gotta check your credit."
"Well, if they're living together, and thus sharing expenses and working on a coordinated budget, then mature adults will consult each other when spending money frivolously, particularly if said budget is tight."
Well, there's the old "Golden Rule"...He who makes the most gold, makes the rules.
So, unless she's the big bread winner, she's really got nothing to say in the matters. And it did say girlfriend, not wife, so she has even less say in it.
Don't get me wrong...I'll compromise 99% of the time, because I'm easy going, but, on the other hand no chick TELLS me what to do or orders me around. I have final decision as long as it is my house, and if she doesn't like it...well, there are plenty of others out there to replace her after she hits the street.
"Yeah, that's kind of what I think with every "You're glad you didn't get shot!" comment. It wasn't that bad a neighborhood. There was a kid's birthday party going on on the corner, for God's sake."
Well, that sad truth of it is...people who live in highly ethnic, poor neighborhoods TRY to have normal lives too (they're not all bad, no), but, I've heard story after story about shootings breaking out, and kids at an outdoor birthday party getting injured or killed in the crossfire.
"I agree. When I was 18-19 and I told my girlfriend that most guys are there to pick up girls or to get sex, she was like "no way". It seems its totally different for a girl to go out to bar than what it is with guys, hence the "pick up" defences aswell. They're mostly there to hang out with friends and socialize."
Well, to be fair, most guys go ANYWHERE with the intent of picking up girls or to get sex...
Sure girls go to hang with friends, that's where you have to know the ways to separate them from the 'herd'. Having a friend play wingman is quite helpful.
"Most women who go to bars are there to socialize with their friends, not to get picked up. The ones who go there to get picked up by strangers are not the kind you can build a long-term, meaningful relationship with."
Well, there are ways around the 'defenses'...you just gotta know them. And as usual, you use the shotgun approach, you keep hitting on different ones till one takes the bait. You can't let yourself worry about rejection, 'cause there is ALWAYS another out out there to try next.
And while I would argue that 'nice' girls and guys go to bars too, I have to ask with regard to your last comment: Who the hell wants a long term meaningful relationship?!? We're talking about getting laid here.
But even with that...if you go through enough women, eventually you find one you do actually like, and if you want, THEN settle down, but, certainly no guy (or almost no guys) goes out with the intent of finding "Miss Right". I don't know a single guy in the world that is out on the town, spies a girl across the room and goes "God, I have got to have that woman...did you see the personality on that chick!?!?"
"As a gamer (not a PS3 owner) who does have a girlfriend, I can say that she's absolutely happy with standard DVD quality, and would probably be pissed off to know what I spend extra on HD movies when I do get them (I have BluRay on my computer, and an HDDVD player on the 360)."
Why they hell would your girlfriend get mad at YOU for spending your own money on something you wanted?!?!
I mean, I've very rarely ever been somewhere where I don't have my normal carriers signal,b ut, even on the few times my phone says it is on roaming....I don't get charged extra for it?!?!
"To be honest, I don't even think a credit check is unreasonable, you can rack up a pretty hefty bill on a mobile phone and yet lots of people from all walks of life want one. There's bound to be a lot of people out there who'd gladly sign up to it, not have any kind of self control whatsoever, rack up a $1000 bill and then be completely unable to pay it because they're the same people who also managed to max out their credit cards too."
Ok, I've seen this alluded to a few times on this discussion. How they hell would a person run up bills that high??
I mean, most plans I see have 1000's of anytime minutes as a minimum...with nights and weekends free....and long distance is free too. How do you run up such high bills with all that time?
I've only been with sprint since I got my first cell phone in the last 90's. I've never given a SSN to a phone company.
However, I've been concerned that I will run into the same thing with switching and getting an iPhone....but, to get around that...gonna do it through my company I formed to do contracting through. I'd be ok giving my EIN, rather than my SSN.
I just do not give SSN out, I'll pay deposits no problem, but, I don't give out SSN. Sure it is a bit of a hassle with utilities, but, it can be done.
"That is a large deductible system. The problem with that system is it discourages preventative care which is much much cheaper. The cost of giving everyone in the USA a routine physical every year (particularly if there were no billing issues) for free is a pittance compared to what it would save."
Actually, it seems pretty economical for me. The large deductible is no big deal...I will ONLY use insurance for an emergency.
For routine 'preventative' care..I just pay for everything out of my HSA that I load up annually pre-tax....and when I tell Dr's and testing facilities that I'm paying on my own...they usually cut at least 15% off the top of their fees they would charge insurance. Paying for you own routine care is not a big deal, especially if you do it pre-tax. Why should you not save money for routine care, just like you save for any other necessity of life?
"And yet, despite the right-wing horror stories (with their purely anecdotal basis), Canada's national healthcare system remains extremely popular, with Canadians expressing high levels of satisfaction with the care they're getting [www.ctv.ca]. See? Only about 90% of Canadians express satisfaction with their system! There has to be something wrong with it!"
Great...how about everyone that wants Canada-care, moves to Canada.
I'd prefer the US to still be the land or free choice, and personal responsibility. Why shouldn't everyone save money for routine health needs just like you save for retirement, etc?
Insurance should ONLY be for emergency care ( like a heart attack)....
If it were easier for everyone to set up pre-tax HSA's to save for routine stuff, and insurance was ONLY for emergencies....it would cost everyone less all around.
Of course that would necessitate the typical US citizen learning how to be responsible, like we used to be a few decades ago.
"much like Social Security, once a large national program is established to provide for everyone something that they want (cheaper health care), it will be impossible to kill again later."
I'm not a republican...I consider myself quite indie.
But really...is this what we want? I mean, look how GREAT Social Security is working out...will be bankrupt by the time I reach retirement age.
I can see Obama-care going the same way, unless we start taxing pretty much everyone by 55% or more on all income.
Frankly, I'd rather them open up the HSA program for eveyone and make it easier to save your own money to pay for routine medical care, and just have insurance for emergencies.
"Out of the soldiers who finish their service there's a tiny fraction that can't wait to get back and make $80k a year and not be bound by *any* law or code regarding their behavior."
That's all they pay?!?!
Damn..I'd have figured it would be much more than that...that is shit money for that type of risk.
"Well now, that is quite an invitation. Sounds to me like Hannity gets off on a little S&M from time to time
Not only would it be fun to throw large rocks at Hannity, especially if he enjoys it, it would also be great fun to swing a baseball bat at his head. Maybe even douse him with gasoline and set him on fire..."
Only if you use the people at the Daily Kos as 'kindling'...
"He was a giving a talk on a seminar on why gold is better than cash. The $4,300 was part of his props."
So, is carrying cash, even LARGE amounts of it against the law now?
If so, what is the threshold for carrying cash around within the United States? I know you have to declare when crossing the border, but, travel within the states, I didn't realize it was illegal to carry large sums of cash. What if you are going to Vegas, and want to deal only in cash? That's illegal now?
Let's say you start buying gold bullion...storing it in safe deposit boxes.
When you want to cash out some of it....where do you take it to sell it to get the 'market price'? I doubt seriously it would be one of those people on tv that have you mail your gold jewelry in for cash.
I know you can buy gold bullion from the US mint...but, who do you sell it to when you're ready?
I'm wondering just WTF the Federal Govt. has to do with all this?
I mean, it is one thing for this to be a Local/State decision, but, where does the Federal Govt. come in to play with all this at all? Talk about overstepping the bounds?!?!
On a side note...if they did want to start this somewhere, I'd recommend New Orleans East and the 9th Ward...we need to just finish off what Katrina started. That area was all swampland to begin with...let it return to nature, no one's hardly living there now to this day, just a drag on the New Orleans recovery.
"I'd rather be talking to people, but people look at you funny if you smile and say 'hi,' let alone try to strike up a conversation."
Really?
Interesting, that is actually fairly common down here where I live. I'm guessing maybe you live up north somewhere?
I guess we're much friendlier here in the south. I often strike up conversations with people around me while waiting for something, no big deal actually.
"Anonymous is just a courtesy option that some websites provide and, for the most part, those comments are linked to IPs which are retained in the server logs for an unknown period. Any website operator that does not want to go to jail will give up those server logs if there is a valid warrant."
Why would an admin, running a website offering 'anonymous' posting even keep logs that associated IP with posters?
Seems the best thing to do for all considered, is not to log IP/poster information. Nothing (in the US so far) says you have to.
"I think its more like you noticed a bundle of rope, a sleeping/unconscious kid, and a shovel in the back of their car as you were helping on the tire."
While that would certainly raise concern in most people seeing that....I don't believe anything in the circumstance you mentioned, would make the person that sees it legally bound to do or report anything, even if something DID happen later.
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I've never given a SSN for my cell phone(s)...
Well, there's the old "Golden Rule"...He who makes the most gold, makes the rules.
So, unless she's the big bread winner, she's really got nothing to say in the matters. And it did say girlfriend, not wife, so she has even less say in it.
Don't get me wrong...I'll compromise 99% of the time, because I'm easy going, but, on the other hand no chick TELLS me what to do or orders me around. I have final decision as long as it is my house, and if she doesn't like it...well, there are plenty of others out there to replace her after she hits the street.
Well, that sad truth of it is...people who live in highly ethnic, poor neighborhoods TRY to have normal lives too (they're not all bad, no), but, I've heard story after story about shootings breaking out, and kids at an outdoor birthday party getting injured or killed in the crossfire.
Well, to be fair, most guys go ANYWHERE with the intent of picking up girls or to get sex...
Sure girls go to hang with friends, that's where you have to know the ways to separate them from the 'herd'. Having a friend play wingman is quite helpful.
Well, there are ways around the 'defenses'...you just gotta know them. And as usual, you use the shotgun approach, you keep hitting on different ones till one takes the bait. You can't let yourself worry about rejection, 'cause there is ALWAYS another out out there to try next.
And while I would argue that 'nice' girls and guys go to bars too, I have to ask with regard to your last comment: Who the hell wants a long term meaningful relationship?!? We're talking about getting laid here.
But even with that...if you go through enough women, eventually you find one you do actually like, and if you want, THEN settle down, but, certainly no guy (or almost no guys) goes out with the intent of finding "Miss Right". I don't know a single guy in the world that is out on the town, spies a girl across the room and goes "God, I have got to have that woman...did you see the personality on that chick!?!?"
Why they hell would your girlfriend get mad at YOU for spending your own money on something you wanted?!?!
Secondly...why would you care?
I mean, I've very rarely ever been somewhere where I don't have my normal carriers signal,b ut, even on the few times my phone says it is on roaming....I don't get charged extra for it?!?!
Nothing like a little 'conversation lubrication' to help you talk to chicks and get laid.
Ok, I've seen this alluded to a few times on this discussion. How they hell would a person run up bills that high??
I mean, most plans I see have 1000's of anytime minutes as a minimum...with nights and weekends free....and long distance is free too. How do you run up such high bills with all that time?
However, I've been concerned that I will run into the same thing with switching and getting an iPhone....but, to get around that...gonna do it through my company I formed to do contracting through. I'd be ok giving my EIN, rather than my SSN.
I just do not give SSN out, I'll pay deposits no problem, but, I don't give out SSN. Sure it is a bit of a hassle with utilities, but, it can be done.
I've been with Sprint a LONG time....and they have never had my SSN.
I pay for my routine care out of my Health Savings Account.
Actually, it seems pretty economical for me. The large deductible is no big deal...I will ONLY use insurance for an emergency.
For routine 'preventative' care..I just pay for everything out of my HSA that I load up annually pre-tax....and when I tell Dr's and testing facilities that I'm paying on my own...they usually cut at least 15% off the top of their fees they would charge insurance. Paying for you own routine care is not a big deal, especially if you do it pre-tax. Why should you not save money for routine care, just like you save for any other necessity of life?
Great...how about everyone that wants Canada-care, moves to Canada.
I'd prefer the US to still be the land or free choice, and personal responsibility. Why shouldn't everyone save money for routine health needs just like you save for retirement, etc?
Insurance should ONLY be for emergency care ( like a heart attack)....
If it were easier for everyone to set up pre-tax HSA's to save for routine stuff, and insurance was ONLY for emergencies....it would cost everyone less all around.
Of course that would necessitate the typical US citizen learning how to be responsible, like we used to be a few decades ago.
I'm not a republican...I consider myself quite indie.
But really...is this what we want? I mean, look how GREAT Social Security is working out...will be bankrupt by the time I reach retirement age.
I can see Obama-care going the same way, unless we start taxing pretty much everyone by 55% or more on all income.
Frankly, I'd rather them open up the HSA program for eveyone and make it easier to save your own money to pay for routine medical care, and just have insurance for emergencies.
What's wrong with that?
That's all they pay?!?!
Damn..I'd have figured it would be much more than that...that is shit money for that type of risk.
I'd have thought easily in the 6 figure range.
Only if you use the people at the Daily Kos as 'kindling'...
Gotta keep it all fair and balanced.
So, is carrying cash, even LARGE amounts of it against the law now?
If so, what is the threshold for carrying cash around within the United States? I know you have to declare when crossing the border, but, travel within the states, I didn't realize it was illegal to carry large sums of cash. What if you are going to Vegas, and want to deal only in cash? That's illegal now?
Let's say you start buying gold bullion...storing it in safe deposit boxes.
When you want to cash out some of it....where do you take it to sell it to get the 'market price'? I doubt seriously it would be one of those people on tv that have you mail your gold jewelry in for cash.
I know you can buy gold bullion from the US mint...but, who do you sell it to when you're ready?
I mean, it is one thing for this to be a Local/State decision, but, where does the Federal Govt. come in to play with all this at all? Talk about overstepping the bounds?!?!
On a side note...if they did want to start this somewhere, I'd recommend New Orleans East and the 9th Ward...we need to just finish off what Katrina started. That area was all swampland to begin with...let it return to nature, no one's hardly living there now to this day, just a drag on the New Orleans recovery.
However, my beef is WAY more basic than that...why the hell are they asking for my internet information for in the first place!?!?
It is no ones business what websites I have up, or what forums I participate in...
What is this, the electronic version of submitting to a drug test?
Really?
Interesting, that is actually fairly common down here where I live. I'm guessing maybe you live up north somewhere?
I guess we're much friendlier here in the south. I often strike up conversations with people around me while waiting for something, no big deal actually.
Why would an admin, running a website offering 'anonymous' posting even keep logs that associated IP with posters?
Seems the best thing to do for all considered, is not to log IP/poster information. Nothing (in the US so far) says you have to.
While that would certainly raise concern in most people seeing that....I don't believe anything in the circumstance you mentioned, would make the person that sees it legally bound to do or report anything, even if something DID happen later.