I am surprised that nobody else has taken issue with where the world's very first commercial fusion reactor will be built.
I envision some ill-informed, or just plain stupid, french person getting upset that it will be built in his backyard. He might be afraid of high voltage power lines or something.
I envision Spain folk complaining that they cannot differentiate between the sun coming up, and the ominous glow of their fusion brothers to the east.
I envision German politicians wondering if any funny gasses will head their way in the atmosphere.
I envision china, russia, and americans getting kind of upset that they have put so much time, research, and money towards GIVING AWAY the worlds first non-poluting energy source. Limitless power, research, knowledge, and experience...given to the french to control.
I just see a lot of people complaining.
I also envision the french complaining again...when after another 15 years Germany, Portugal, England, Russia, China, India, Sudan, USA, and Mexico all have significantly larger, and more efficient fusion reactors available to them. Then France will be jealous that they ended up being the guinnee pig and have this old fashioned albatross as an energy and administrative nightmare.
Even WITH the source code microsoft cannot figure out how their code works and issue patches...so how would they be able to tell if some 'hacker' is really hacking their ultra secure corporate network? What do they do when third parties issue unofficial patches for IE? Are they going to start filing lawsuits against the white hats too as they might have figured something out on their own?
I am neither for or against hacking DRM and such, but honestly, assuming somebody hacked their way in and stole source code is a little bit harder to believe than simply figuring out a way around what I'm sure is an elementary DRM code. Poking and testing is easy to do, hacking, finding, downloading, and analysing source code is probably adding a bit more effort to the process than most guys trying to beat DRM are willing to go through.
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. If he just plain figured it out by trying several different things, I'm inclined to believe him.
There were at least 3 ideas presented in it that I did not read previously in the discussion.
We need to tighten up the moderator system, this is stupid. Perhaps we need to give posting points instead of moderator points. People can only post 3 or 4 times per week. Perhaps it will clear out the juvenile morons that post simply to post.
What happens in 25-30 years when all the baby-boomers are dying? Sure, right now all the WWII vets are dying...and unfortunately they are the ones that gave birth to the baby-boomers...which means they are only 25-30 years behind.
What happens to a country as it becomes more apparent they they have a severely overbuilt industry with no demand anymore? Not to mention the eternal hope that one day, going to the doctor will actually cure you instead of send you back every 2 weeks for treatment.
I am afraid of what will happen when I am older, and the health care industry is again in the news, but now for vast layoffs like the current auto industry. Will all the good doctors get paid more money to leave than work and retire early? Will this leave all the losers that amputate the wrong leg....
I wonder about the economy then. I am very afraid that it may tank, and along with our wonderful global stain...that the Good old US of A is not going to be so good anymore. I am actually a bit concerned that there might be some sort of revolt and the country will break up or reorganize. Seriously. I wonder.
This makes me wonder about the future new techniques this could be used for. Never mind the obvious inter-chip communication...how about visual systems?
Could this, with another 10 years of evolution and the advancement of color coordination and multi-colored laser chips, provide incredibly high contrast and accurate projections? This is like DLP projectors on steroids. They don't simply reflect light one pixel at at time, they actually create the laser one pixel at a time.
I also was wondering what the 3D applications would be like. Perhaps an R2D2 unit fitted with one of these would have a much sharper and sexier image of the princess asking for OB1's help.
Also, how about a laser weapon targeting system that can lase 100 targets at once for all the bomblets?
Using the same logic, one could sentence a man to prison/death for throwing away the gun used to commit the crime. Evidence destroyed/unavailable, you must be guilty.
No need to prove anything, just prove that they were paranoid.
I know this is a bit extreme, but really, applying the same rules to any other investigation would never be allowed.
The orion project with directed nuclear propulsion is well...sort of over. If we maintained such religious dedication and respect for all names, then we wouldn't really be able to name anything at all.
This is a troll response I admit. Seriously, we need to name it something. Orion sounds just fine to me, it has a nice ring to it.
What about the video game series: Masters of Orion. I loved MOO3 for quite a while, despite it's debilitating and stupid AI that made the game unplayable. After a few hundred turns...it got to be a bit stupid as you simply could not avoid war.
I disagree. I believe that is partially the point of that third prong on the wall plug.
If you were opening up the computer and working on it, then you would need higher humidity or other ESD prevention mechanisms. However, just sitting there minding its own busines...as long as you and the other workers mind your own business, it will be fine. That big metal/plastic case is there for a reason - touch that part and you'll be fine. Don't touch the insides.
Low humidity is perfectly fine for a computer to sit in.
Low temperature is usualy perfectly fine for a computer to sit in. Aircraft experience extreme cold also during every flight. A very slight amount of insulation should suffice. Other than that, normal installation practices should save you just fine. If you don't know what you are doing with a professional installation, you'll probably have trouble...but I would imagine bidding on this will be ok.
The obvious solution to people going around and surfing myspace etc, is content filtering I believe. Honestly, unless there is a proxy out there that will take naughty requests and format them into a flash animation page for you no matter what...then the text is still there. It is still filterable.
The other way around it is encryption...but I'd imagine most of the proxy's are not encrypted. Perhaps I'm wrong though, as I haven't searched for a proxy for a while. But even then, the proxy site may have the word 'proxy' in it...and you could simply score the word 'proxy' when used in conjuction with 'web' or 'internet' or 'free' add up to be over the threshold for blocking.
SmoothWall Firewall does a fine job of being a firewall, and the
DansGuardian Content Filter with Antivirus mod will allow such things very easily.
Domain block lists and white lists have their place, so does true content filtering. There are free versions that work well for home users including smoothwall firewall, and there are also better featured versions of different content filtering products for enterprise users. While obviously content filtering intruduces some delay into your web transactions, don't underestimate the utility of the machine also serving as a cache - out of 5000 people, do they really need to download 'google.com' 1000 times a day? or maybe only 100 due to caching...
I know google is light on the load and bandwidth, but other sites also get cached. Its a pretty good deal.
High quality cable? RG-58?? He is kidding right? I know it is 'Radio-Grade' and balanced at 75ohm...but it is definitely not high quality. RG-6 is the bare minimum I would use for this...and that is if I was hacking it to pieces. Seriously...he could have spent $10 (or pounds or whatever) on a decent length of cable.
Intel's products have been worthless for almost 2 full years now. Interestingly, they've been hyping this chip and it's arrival for just about as long. It is a very well documented (and propogandized) release of a superior product.
Toms Hardware has a review of the New Intel Chips. I know, the page came out a few days ago, but the information is the same, and much of it has been available for many months.
Toms also has the AMD AM2 Socket and the incremental upgrades on the other side of the house.
I believe you will find an extremely large differential in the cost of maintaining 1 mile of road in Nevada compared to say...Minnesota (and the Scandinavian countries). Heat in nevada is nothing. Snow and ice, potholes, and the army of men to clean the roads of said ice and snow is a whole different ball of wax. Also, any and all road construction must be done during only half the year. There are two seasons in Minnesota: Winter, and Road Construction. Both are quite costly for the Dept. of Transporation.
Taxation issues do exist and road improvements are chalked up to your property and frontage and such...but that really isn't my point.
Point: Don't ever compare road maintenance and building costs in temperate climates to those that aren't. You have no idea.
I second the healthcare problem as top on my list.
My data has been lost 3 times in as many years...all by the wonderful work of healthcare related companies. Seriously...how hard is it. Just don't lose it. Better yet...don't store it in the first place.
I've had to put watches on 'my accounts' with the credit reporting agencies myself for each one too. You know how irritating it is that I have to take a couple of hours out of my day to fix some other nimrod's stupidity induced problem? Makes me want to shoot somebody. And supposedly I'm on of the people in the psych evals that proves 'more stable than most'. If I want to shoot somebody then that must mean lots of other people ARE shooting somebody over this stupidity.
I'm a little bit pissed that they can't allow a normal download manager to pause the download. Firefox 'pause' does indeed pause it, but if you try to restart it, then it just finishes up the file and says that its done. All 30Megs of it. Tried it 3 times.
Why would I want Akamai downloader or whatever it is they are offering? Every other download in the world is just fine with 'pause'....irritating.
I'll start looking for a torrent of the damn thing. Just plain stupid to not have a standard pause enabled download of a 3.2Gig file.
Yes This is a Flame. No, you shouldn't mod me that way. Mod me insightful...hopefully make more people seek other download options.
Once again, we'll go over this again. Call me Mr. Obvious.
Repeat after me: Firewalls are not general purpose servers. Firewalls are not general purpose servers. Firewalls are not general purpose servers.
Yes, of course it 'could' be done. But it shouldn't be done. The entire *Nix filesystem could put everything under/bin and get rid of/etc/sbin/root and the whole bit...but it would be silly, confusing, and just plain stupid.
You either have a need for a firewall or you don't. If you don't give a damn, then use a general purpose server distro...not one that is stripped to the bone such as smoothwall and try to add functionality to it. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, clarkconnect is a good choice, allowing noobish PHBs to look at pretty web controls.
Have a firewall and keep it that way. Have a general purpose server (or more) and keep them that way.
Don't mix.
Any jackass with a degree or urge to learn does not a sysadmin make. Learn and internalize these simple philosphical rules...and watch yourself be better.
It seems you do not understand VLF/ELF ideas. The entire point is that it is a super low frequency. Low frequency doesn't cycle very often, and makes it hard to press data...so it would be rather difficult to compress audio and then send it.
The navy's ELF is just that...ELF...it sends text only. This is no email system, this is exactly what needs to be sent, and thats it...and some messages take several minutes to send. Sending voice data would take an extremely long time...and transmitting for that long wears down batteries. Your LMR(land mobile radio) be it motorola, etc, MIGHT last an entire day or 8/12 hr workday...but it only gets keyed for about 20 minutes of that timeperiod, if that.
I think, even if it was VLF instead of ELF, they would be far better served to make a keypad, and force people to type short messages to transmit. That way it might actually last for 3 or 4 days if there were an emergency. Otherwise it simply wouldn't have the power to maintain sporadic communications for that kind of timeframe.
Who the hell cares about some nerds hauling a cannon over to supposedly disgruntle other students? This is news in some fashion? Who the hell keeps submitting these dopey campus newspaper articles? Ever wonder why they are in campus papers? Because nobody gives a damn outside of your little microcosm community.
No crap, there is a private religeous school in town here...they don't actually have real teachers. No crap. They don't teach, they don't lecture. They do worksheets. All day long. Oh yeah, and the King James Bible...its the only true and accurate Bible... which as far as translations of anything go...I wouldn't put it up there anywhere near even Microsoft's coding to be fully true to either the exact word or the exact thought/meaning.
This school sucks. I have a pair of kids that come and visit...sort of get tutoring out of my wife or I...but they don't really need any tutoring...they aren't stupid. Its just that the school sucks, and things don't get explained to them. If they aren't good at reading it for themselves and figuring it out (especially considering the poor worksheets) then they are screwed. No hands on experiential learning here, no visual learning, no social learning, just read from poor worksheets - there are no books at all by the way - only worksheets.
No pun intended - May God have mercy on those poor deprived children. They are growing up stupid...well meaning, but stupid.
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It's amazing what you can find if you have a preconception. Religious people do this every day of their lives, constantly finding proof of God being alive...and yet scientists constantly dismiss their evidence, because they were found by people who had a prior belief. And yet when scientists do this, looking for evidence in a theory they believe in, and miraculously finding it, the scientists hold it up as the greatest achievement of thier lives. They're just so hypocritical, and I am flabbergasted...
While the aussie_a poster was a bit more pro-creation than I would have liked...the idea of the post was the same as my parent post. When you go looking for something, chances are you'll find it. When I don't have a hammer available...and I am looking for that missing item...amazing what begins to fill that void. Shoe, screwdriver, old computer mouse, trophy from the last professional convention, indentured servant named Rita......doh...
If I may expand, as I seem to have attracted a throng of close minded evolutionists (of which I am, but not quite so close minded)
Why does the typical scientist assume they know it all? Why does a scientist in any field think they are right, and that there is no more to know? That somebody that has spent their entire life achieving a doctorate in some odd religeous program, and ministered to thousands of people...obviously doesn't know jack? How do scientists find the time to become experts at religeous teaching?
There was another post later on, mentioning how you can believe/disbelieve in a faith, and still believe in scientific evolution. Neither are mutually exclusive and bar restraint from eachother. This isn't Riyad...they aren't going to chop off your hands. I think the silent majority believe some/most of both...and that the more you argue the more you turn people off of whatever side you happen to be promoting.
April Fool's Day called. They want your post back.
Which of us is rhetorical in their posturing?
Dimensio said it best so far in this argument...that shouldn't be an argument if you actually read my first post:
Actually, nothing in science is "proven". Explanations can only be further supported as potentially valid through additional evidence, or they can be disproven through contradictory evidence.
Don't even get me started on education level. My own education aside...there are plenty of doctorates degree toting morons out there I wouldn't trust with my peanut butter jar.
You can support your claims about my pants as much as you like...I still say you believe them and can't prove it...since you aren't here to witness the unfolding of my posts.
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I am surprised that nobody else has taken issue with where the world's very first commercial fusion reactor will be built.
I envision some ill-informed, or just plain stupid, french person getting upset that it will be built in his backyard. He might be afraid of high voltage power lines or something.
I envision Spain folk complaining that they cannot differentiate between the sun coming up, and the ominous glow of their fusion brothers to the east.
I envision German politicians wondering if any funny gasses will head their way in the atmosphere.
I envision china, russia, and americans getting kind of upset that they have put so much time, research, and money towards GIVING AWAY the worlds first non-poluting energy source. Limitless power, research, knowledge, and experience...given to the french to control.
I just see a lot of people complaining.
I also envision the french complaining again...when after another 15 years Germany, Portugal, England, Russia, China, India, Sudan, USA, and Mexico all have significantly larger, and more efficient fusion reactors available to them. Then France will be jealous that they ended up being the guinnee pig and have this old fashioned albatross as an energy and administrative nightmare.
odd.
What I take from this is the following:
Even WITH the source code microsoft cannot figure out how their code works and issue patches...so how would they be able to tell if some 'hacker' is really hacking their ultra secure corporate network? What do they do when third parties issue unofficial patches for IE? Are they going to start filing lawsuits against the white hats too as they might have figured something out on their own?
I am neither for or against hacking DRM and such, but honestly, assuming somebody hacked their way in and stole source code is a little bit harder to believe than simply figuring out a way around what I'm sure is an elementary DRM code. Poking and testing is easy to do, hacking, finding, downloading, and analysing source code is probably adding a bit more effort to the process than most guys trying to beat DRM are willing to go through.
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. If he just plain figured it out by trying several different things, I'm inclined to believe him.
This is a shell like the Great Wall of China is simply a wall.
I little bit bigger than it needs to be?
Yes.
A little bit cool and worthy of inspection and use?
Yes.
Cool?
I guess that remains to be seen.
It is however, not like any other shell.
Who in the world moderated my post redundant?
There were at least 3 ideas presented in it that I did not read previously in the discussion.
We need to tighten up the moderator system, this is stupid. Perhaps we need to give posting points instead of moderator points. People can only post 3 or 4 times per week. Perhaps it will clear out the juvenile morons that post simply to post.
What happens in 25-30 years when all the baby-boomers are dying? Sure, right now all the WWII vets are dying...and unfortunately they are the ones that gave birth to the baby-boomers...which means they are only 25-30 years behind.
What happens to a country as it becomes more apparent they they have a severely overbuilt industry with no demand anymore? Not to mention the eternal hope that one day, going to the doctor will actually cure you instead of send you back every 2 weeks for treatment.
I am afraid of what will happen when I am older, and the health care industry is again in the news, but now for vast layoffs like the current auto industry. Will all the good doctors get paid more money to leave than work and retire early? Will this leave all the losers that amputate the wrong leg....
I wonder about the economy then. I am very afraid that it may tank, and along with our wonderful global stain...that the Good old US of A is not going to be so good anymore. I am actually a bit concerned that there might be some sort of revolt and the country will break up or reorganize. Seriously. I wonder.
This makes me wonder about the future new techniques this could be used for. Never mind the obvious inter-chip communication...how about visual systems?
Could this, with another 10 years of evolution and the advancement of color coordination and multi-colored laser chips, provide incredibly high contrast and accurate projections? This is like DLP projectors on steroids. They don't simply reflect light one pixel at at time, they actually create the laser one pixel at a time.
I also was wondering what the 3D applications would be like. Perhaps an R2D2 unit fitted with one of these would have a much sharper and sexier image of the princess asking for OB1's help.
Also, how about a laser weapon targeting system that can lase 100 targets at once for all the bomblets?
Great things are going on in my mind.
Using the same logic, one could sentence a man to prison/death for throwing away the gun used to commit the crime. Evidence destroyed/unavailable, you must be guilty.
No need to prove anything, just prove that they were paranoid.
I know this is a bit extreme, but really, applying the same rules to any other investigation would never be allowed.
The orion project with directed nuclear propulsion is well...sort of over. If we maintained such religious dedication and respect for all names, then we wouldn't really be able to name anything at all.
This is a troll response I admit. Seriously, we need to name it something. Orion sounds just fine to me, it has a nice ring to it.
What about the video game series: Masters of Orion. I loved MOO3 for quite a while, despite it's debilitating and stupid AI that made the game unplayable. After a few hundred turns...it got to be a bit stupid as you simply could not avoid war.
I disagree. I believe that is partially the point of that third prong on the wall plug.
If you were opening up the computer and working on it, then you would need higher humidity or other ESD prevention mechanisms. However, just sitting there minding its own busines...as long as you and the other workers mind your own business, it will be fine. That big metal/plastic case is there for a reason - touch that part and you'll be fine. Don't touch the insides.
Low humidity is perfectly fine for a computer to sit in.
Low temperature is usualy perfectly fine for a computer to sit in. Aircraft experience extreme cold also during every flight. A very slight amount of insulation should suffice. Other than that, normal installation practices should save you just fine. If you don't know what you are doing with a professional installation, you'll probably have trouble...but I would imagine bidding on this will be ok.
"ancient relative of the penis worm"
"The results are truly orgasmic," Donoghue said.
I am definitely not old enough to read this. In fact, I don't think I ever will be. Penis worm, and Orgasmic. They should never be together.
The obvious solution to people going around and surfing myspace etc, is content filtering I believe. Honestly, unless there is a proxy out there that will take naughty requests and format them into a flash animation page for you no matter what...then the text is still there. It is still filterable.
The other way around it is encryption...but I'd imagine most of the proxy's are not encrypted. Perhaps I'm wrong though, as I haven't searched for a proxy for a while. But even then, the proxy site may have the word 'proxy' in it...and you could simply score the word 'proxy' when used in conjuction with 'web' or 'internet' or 'free' add up to be over the threshold for blocking.
SmoothWall Firewall does a fine job of being a firewall, and the DansGuardian Content Filter with Antivirus mod will allow such things very easily.
Domain block lists and white lists have their place, so does true content filtering. There are free versions that work well for home users including smoothwall firewall, and there are also better featured versions of different content filtering products for enterprise users.
While obviously content filtering intruduces some delay into your web transactions, don't underestimate the utility of the machine also serving as a cache - out of 5000 people, do they really need to download 'google.com' 1000 times a day? or maybe only 100 due to caching... I know google is light on the load and bandwidth, but other sites also get cached. Its a pretty good deal.
I stand corrected! 50 ohm it is.
Thats why it sucks in the home.
High quality cable? RG-58?? He is kidding right? I know it is 'Radio-Grade' and balanced at 75ohm...but it is definitely not high quality. RG-6 is the bare minimum I would use for this...and that is if I was hacking it to pieces. Seriously...he could have spent $10 (or pounds or whatever) on a decent length of cable.
Toms Hardware has a review of the New Intel Chips. I know, the page came out a few days ago, but the information is the same, and much of it has been available for many months.
Toms also has the AMD AM2 Socket and the incremental upgrades on the other side of the house.
I believe you will find an extremely large differential in the cost of maintaining 1 mile of road in Nevada compared to say...Minnesota (and the Scandinavian countries). Heat in nevada is nothing. Snow and ice, potholes, and the army of men to clean the roads of said ice and snow is a whole different ball of wax. Also, any and all road construction must be done during only half the year. There are two seasons in Minnesota: Winter, and Road Construction. Both are quite costly for the Dept. of Transporation.
Taxation issues do exist and road improvements are chalked up to your property and frontage and such...but that really isn't my point.
Point: Don't ever compare road maintenance and building costs in temperate climates to those that aren't. You have no idea.
I second the healthcare problem as top on my list.
My data has been lost 3 times in as many years...all by the wonderful work of healthcare related companies. Seriously...how hard is it. Just don't lose it. Better yet...don't store it in the first place.
I've had to put watches on 'my accounts' with the credit reporting agencies myself for each one too. You know how irritating it is that I have to take a couple of hours out of my day to fix some other nimrod's stupidity induced problem? Makes me want to shoot somebody. And supposedly I'm on of the people in the psych evals that proves 'more stable than most'. If I want to shoot somebody then that must mean lots of other people ARE shooting somebody over this stupidity.
I'm a little bit pissed that they can't allow a normal download manager to pause the download. Firefox 'pause' does indeed pause it, but if you try to restart it, then it just finishes up the file and says that its done. All 30Megs of it. Tried it 3 times.
Why would I want Akamai downloader or whatever it is they are offering? Every other download in the world is just fine with 'pause'....irritating.
I'll start looking for a torrent of the damn thing. Just plain stupid to not have a standard pause enabled download of a 3.2Gig file.
Yes This is a Flame. No, you shouldn't mod me that way. Mod me insightful...hopefully make more people seek other download options.
Once again, we'll go over this again. Call me Mr. Obvious.
/bin and get rid of /etc /sbin /root and the whole bit...but it would be silly, confusing, and just plain stupid.
Repeat after me:
Firewalls are not general purpose servers.
Firewalls are not general purpose servers.
Firewalls are not general purpose servers.
Yes, of course it 'could' be done. But it shouldn't be done. The entire *Nix filesystem could put everything under
You either have a need for a firewall or you don't. If you don't give a damn, then use a general purpose server distro...not one that is stripped to the bone such as smoothwall and try to add functionality to it. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, clarkconnect is a good choice, allowing noobish PHBs to look at pretty web controls.
Have a firewall and keep it that way.
Have a general purpose server (or more) and keep them that way.
Don't mix.
Any jackass with a degree or urge to learn does not a sysadmin make. Learn and internalize these simple philosphical rules...and watch yourself be better.
I second this STRONGLY.
Seriously. The current setup of enter only going one row down...in the same column...this is not a feature to make life easier.
A simple config tick mark or something to enable 'smart return key' or something would be nice.
It seems you do not understand VLF/ELF ideas. The entire point is that it is a super low frequency. Low frequency doesn't cycle very often, and makes it hard to press data...so it would be rather difficult to compress audio and then send it.
The navy's ELF is just that...ELF...it sends text only. This is no email system, this is exactly what needs to be sent, and thats it...and some messages take several minutes to send. Sending voice data would take an extremely long time...and transmitting for that long wears down batteries. Your LMR(land mobile radio) be it motorola, etc, MIGHT last an entire day or 8/12 hr workday...but it only gets keyed for about 20 minutes of that timeperiod, if that.
I think, even if it was VLF instead of ELF, they would be far better served to make a keypad, and force people to type short messages to transmit. That way it might actually last for 3 or 4 days if there were an emergency. Otherwise it simply wouldn't have the power to maintain sporadic communications for that kind of timeframe.
Who the hell cares about some nerds hauling a cannon over to supposedly disgruntle other students? This is news in some fashion? Who the hell keeps submitting these dopey campus newspaper articles? Ever wonder why they are in campus papers? Because nobody gives a damn outside of your little microcosm community.
No crap, there is a private religeous school in town here...they don't actually have real teachers. No crap. They don't teach, they don't lecture. They do worksheets. All day long. Oh yeah, and the King James Bible...its the only true and accurate Bible
This school sucks. I have a pair of kids that come and visit...sort of get tutoring out of my wife or I...but they don't really need any tutoring...they aren't stupid. Its just that the school sucks, and things don't get explained to them. If they aren't good at reading it for themselves and figuring it out (especially considering the poor worksheets) then they are screwed. No hands on experiential learning here, no visual learning, no social learning, just read from poor worksheets - there are no books at all by the way - only worksheets.
No pun intended - May God have mercy on those poor deprived children. They are growing up stupid...well meaning, but stupid.
While the aussie_a poster was a bit more pro-creation than I would have liked...the idea of the post was the same as my parent post. When you go looking for something, chances are you'll find it. When I don't have a hammer available...and I am looking for that missing item...amazing what begins to fill that void. Shoe, screwdriver, old computer mouse, trophy from the last professional convention, indentured servant named Rita... ...doh...
If I may expand, as I seem to have attracted a throng of close minded evolutionists (of which I am, but not quite so close minded) Why does the typical scientist assume they know it all? Why does a scientist in any field think they are right, and that there is no more to know? That somebody that has spent their entire life achieving a doctorate in some odd religeous program, and ministered to thousands of people...obviously doesn't know jack? How do scientists find the time to become experts at religeous teaching?
There was another post later on, mentioning how you can believe/disbelieve in a faith, and still believe in scientific evolution. Neither are mutually exclusive and bar restraint from eachother. This isn't Riyad...they aren't going to chop off your hands. I think the silent majority believe some/most of both...and that the more you argue the more you turn people off of whatever side you happen to be promoting.
Which of us is rhetorical in their posturing?
Dimensio said it best so far in this argument...that shouldn't be an argument if you actually read my first post:
Don't even get me started on education level. My own education aside...there are plenty of doctorates degree toting morons out there I wouldn't trust with my peanut butter jar.
You can support your claims about my pants as much as you like...I still say you believe them and can't prove it...since you aren't here to witness the unfolding of my posts.