because Apple is reparing them, just not telling people untill the hole is repaired unless it is a major vulnerability (the password one a year ago comes to mind) That way WHILE they are making a patch people arnt codeing to exploit the hole.
Microsofts policy is the holes dont exist, Apples is they exist and when we find them we fix them.
ahh IC so your one of those people who justify Apples charging 130 for it... YOU STEAL IT from them and contribute nothing to the many coders who worked on it...
I mean shit, this isnt adobe who charges 300 for a shitty update for a application, your paying 130 dollars for the code THAT RUNS YOUR MACHINE. I think in comparison to that Apple is much more justified in charging 130 bucks than Adobe is in charging 300.
you know Im tired of these "Apple owes me cause I stuck by them" rants cause you know what, they dont owe you SHIT, They are a company and are in it to make money by making our lives a little easier. I have been by the company just as long too,
I lived through the clone years even buying a power computing clone. I bought my B/W G3 and iBook 500 and 900 mhz out of my haerd earn money that I really didnt have cause I am a college student, and even payed out 200 for the multipack OS cause I needed it for 3 computers and I dont cheat and load it into multiple computers.
And I never lived with one regret doing it, why. CAUSE I DIDNT HAVE TO DO IT! My usability was not hampered by NOT having the latest OS. I waited till Jan, almost Feb to get Panther... did it hurt me No, hell we are still using Jag at work on our iMacs cause I dont need to upgrade them unlike the PC's where we had to upgrade to XP to get 2 programs to run cause 98 wasnt cutting it anymore.
Stop with the cry baby I just dont care antics, If you didnt care you wouldnt have posted.
PS there are well over 3% marketshare for Macs btw.. I suggest you read up a few good articles from some of the PC magz out there that show there is more likely 12-17 % mac users out there, just that like me they all are using older machines for much longer. My B/W G3's run Jag and Panther fine even with the stock 300mhz prossesors... cant say the same thing with XP
eh not true, they support 9.2.2 still... heck they still sell 9.2.2 boot systems (G4 mirror dirves)
In fact I remeber them releasing a update for 8.6 well after 9.1 was out and OS X was waiting in the wings, both Apple and microsoft have been pretty good at supporting much older systems.... I mean come on there are machines still running 98 or 8.1 respectivly out there (in fact I just got rid of two rooms of 5500's running 8.6 this year)
My iBook was too, you cant really blame something on the OS if it might be a model specific fault (as is well know all those shoehorned G3 powerbooks had their faults here and there even with OS 9)
hence 10.1 would be a full version and 10.1.5 would be the full version wit hthe 5th service pack.
the current os would then be 10.3.3
the 4th version of OS X (if you count 10.0 as the first one which I do since I had no problems running it as my defult unlike most people) with the third service pack
and funny I had no issues iwth safari, none at all, it was still my browser of choice before i moved to Panther 6 months later.
Infact I havent had the problems people say they have period, I use Java all the time and the only java that seems broken is shmucks using the bastardize windows java.
and if we want to get to the nitty gritty apple might have started it but they did it in responce to a threat... Microsoft. And since I am running 2 G3s that are running PC branded cards, I dont see how Apple is trapping customers, its not like the Apple of old where you couldnt buy off the shelf parts that worked unless it was a power computing computer
but as been pointed out its 129 dollars, under 100 if your a student.
and I have full iMac 400 mhxz slot load support, as well as my two (one upgraded the other stock 300mhz) B/W G3's which work great, better than they ever did with OS 9.
well having installed XP this weekend on a machine cause I couldnt get 98 to work anymore on my GF's parents computer, I can honestly say that I can see that in the windows world added usability does include patch upgrades.
um no, they are charging for added usability patches and addons have always been free, just look at software update. they are charging for things the previous software did NOT have like Rendevouz.
ummm no one said you HAD to upgrade the software... they are still supporting Jag in system updates. This is just ment for those of us who like to have the most up to date system possible, for the last 3 upgrades the major upgrades have offered at least 40 improvments and additions over the previous OS, and we are not talking bug fixes but ACTUAL software.
better yet I would rather fork out 120 (I actually pay the student fee so its less) than pay 50 here for something and 50 there for another package just to buy third party products because it takes 6 years for Windows to develop a new OS or update its current one (critical patches DONT count as adding usability)
maybe you are since none of apples upgrades have cost 200 dollars and just about ever upgrade had the support Apple promiced, they might have beta tested other things in the OS that people leaked, but apple never said it was going to do those things in the revision of the OS.
better yet lets take it one step further, at what point is driver support not factored into it... see Both me (a mac guy) and two PC guys where talking before we left work and we where saying how no matter how good ATI supposedly is, we would rather wait for NVIDIA's cards to come out because the drivers are more polished and unlike ATI's tech support, NVIDIA's doesnt suck and try to blame your computer as the problem but actually looks to see if it is indeed the computer or the card.
Honestly I thought it was just the mac side cause tech support for most companies loath us mac guys because they refuse to have one mac tech on call. But hearing it from two PC guys who homebuild their systems I felt a little better.
I think the poster was making a bad breaks programs Apple doesnt want you to run joke...
Like how iTunes got rid of the programs that bypassed fairplay protected files
As for REALLY braking things, the only one that ever kicked my ass was the infamous iTunes 2 download that destroyed some macs that got pulled in the first 10 minutes
thats right, they are standing up for the right to steal... wait thats not a right, im sorry.
Dude, its not like they are going after people indesciminatly like the RIAA did, they are asking you to stop and explain why you did it, if you even knew it was wrong. They are basically saying, "we know you might have known, or might not have, so lie to us and we will forget it even happened"
And before any punk says backup, viewing movies that JUST came out is NOT backup which is what is usually the case here.
so THATS what all those hits on my Router where!, I have been trying to figure out what they where for a week since I last checked the log....cause they just randomly started happening recently
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a REAL comparison based on current models
PowerBook 1.5GHz (17" TFT)
1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory
800mhz FSB
80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200rpm
SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
AirPort Extreme Card
1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 2 SO-DIMMs
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
$3,149.00
And as everyone knows, while it might be more money out front, Macs typically are cheaper to maintain in the long run acourding to many published articles in IT trade magazines
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right cause if it was a mac it would be working instead of defragging
specially since I have never head of the damn thing...
I think people who make up these "techie" terms should be shot, they make no sense and dissapear as fast as they appear sometimes
Slashdot Mirror
Microsofts policy is the holes dont exist, Apples is they exist and when we find them we fix them.
I am getting sick and tired of so called "Tech Security" companies who create FUD just to sell their products.
I mean shit, this isnt adobe who charges 300 for a shitty update for a application, your paying 130 dollars for the code THAT RUNS YOUR MACHINE. I think in comparison to that Apple is much more justified in charging 130 bucks than Adobe is in charging 300.
you know Im tired of these "Apple owes me cause I stuck by them" rants cause you know what, they dont owe you SHIT, They are a company and are in it to make money by making our lives a little easier. I have been by the company just as long too,
I lived through the clone years even buying a power computing clone. I bought my B/W G3 and iBook 500 and 900 mhz out of my haerd earn money that I really didnt have cause I am a college student, and even payed out 200 for the multipack OS cause I needed it for 3 computers and I dont cheat and load it into multiple computers.
And I never lived with one regret doing it, why. CAUSE I DIDNT HAVE TO DO IT! My usability was not hampered by NOT having the latest OS. I waited till Jan, almost Feb to get Panther... did it hurt me No, hell we are still using Jag at work on our iMacs cause I dont need to upgrade them unlike the PC's where we had to upgrade to XP to get 2 programs to run cause 98 wasnt cutting it anymore.
Stop with the cry baby I just dont care antics, If you didnt care you wouldnt have posted.
PS there are well over 3% marketshare for Macs btw.. I suggest you read up a few good articles from some of the PC magz out there that show there is more likely 12-17 % mac users out there, just that like me they all are using older machines for much longer. My B/W G3's run Jag and Panther fine even with the stock 300mhz prossesors... cant say the same thing with XP
In fact I remeber them releasing a update for 8.6 well after 9.1 was out and OS X was waiting in the wings, both Apple and microsoft have been pretty good at supporting much older systems.... I mean come on there are machines still running 98 or 8.1 respectivly out there (in fact I just got rid of two rooms of 5500's running 8.6 this year)
I think they are trying to sweep that disaster from everyones minds
My iBook was too, you cant really blame something on the OS if it might be a model specific fault (as is well know all those shoehorned G3 powerbooks had their faults here and there even with OS 9)
kinda refreshing in a way :-D
those would be the .1.1 or trhe current .3.3
hence 10.1 would be a full version and 10.1.5 would be the full version wit hthe 5th service pack.
the current os would then be 10.3.3 the 4th version of OS X (if you count 10.0 as the first one which I do since I had no problems running it as my defult unlike most people) with the third service pack
Infact I havent had the problems people say they have period, I use Java all the time and the only java that seems broken is shmucks using the bastardize windows java.
and if we want to get to the nitty gritty apple might have started it but they did it in responce to a threat... Microsoft. And since I am running 2 G3s that are running PC branded cards, I dont see how Apple is trapping customers, its not like the Apple of old where you couldnt buy off the shelf parts that worked unless it was a power computing computer
nope doesnt because it never was spread, it was said to be possible, but was never tried really.
and I have full iMac 400 mhxz slot load support, as well as my two (one upgraded the other stock 300mhz) B/W G3's which work great, better than they ever did with OS 9.
well having installed XP this weekend on a machine cause I couldnt get 98 to work anymore on my GF's parents computer, I can honestly say that I can see that in the windows world added usability does include patch upgrades.
um no, they are charging for added usability patches and addons have always been free, just look at software update. they are charging for things the previous software did NOT have like Rendevouz.
better yet I would rather fork out 120 (I actually pay the student fee so its less) than pay 50 here for something and 50 there for another package just to buy third party products because it takes 6 years for Windows to develop a new OS or update its current one (critical patches DONT count as adding usability)
maybe you are since none of apples upgrades have cost 200 dollars and just about ever upgrade had the support Apple promiced, they might have beta tested other things in the OS that people leaked, but apple never said it was going to do those things in the revision of the OS.
Honestly I thought it was just the mac side cause tech support for most companies loath us mac guys because they refuse to have one mac tech on call. But hearing it from two PC guys who homebuild their systems I felt a little better.
Like how iTunes got rid of the programs that bypassed fairplay protected files
As for REALLY braking things, the only one that ever kicked my ass was the infamous iTunes 2 download that destroyed some macs that got pulled in the first 10 minutes
Dude, its not like they are going after people indesciminatly like the RIAA did, they are asking you to stop and explain why you did it, if you even knew it was wrong. They are basically saying, "we know you might have known, or might not have, so lie to us and we will forget it even happened"
And before any punk says backup, viewing movies that JUST came out is NOT backup which is what is usually the case here.
so THATS what all those hits on my Router where!, I have been trying to figure out what they where for a week since I last checked the log....cause they just randomly started happening recently
READ THE FAQ
that will answer your question on why there is no mirrors...
at a dead stop cause it was slashdotted!
a REAL comparison based on current models PowerBook 1.5GHz (17" TFT) 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 800mhz FSB 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200rpm SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) AirPort Extreme Card 1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 2 SO-DIMMs Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English $3,149.00 And as everyone knows, while it might be more money out front, Macs typically are cheaper to maintain in the long run acourding to many published articles in IT trade magazines
right cause if it was a mac it would be working instead of defragging
I wont consider what I said a techie term untill Wired prints it in the jargon section
specially since I have never head of the damn thing... I think people who make up these "techie" terms should be shot, they make no sense and dissapear as fast as they appear sometimes