Because we (the Linux community) should not be acting like Fox "news".
MSFT licenses code from SCO. Big honking deal. It doesn't prove a thing. If you have some sort of evidence that MSFT is involved somehow, we'd love to see it. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
Except for the fact that SCO pulled a profit this quarter. And the Novell news was probably released too early for anyone to really care, at least during the conference call. And the stock has tripled in value since this whole thing started.
In MA at least, that holds true officially. The person handling our unemployment class told us we didn't have to take the first job offer we got if it was a big departure from our previous position (Sys admin to garbageman... hmm... maybe a better analogy is in order??), or if the new position paid significantly less than our previous position.
Re:Spamming != bulk mailings
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Don't forget the cost for LL Bean to create the content for the catalog along with actually printing the catalog. I wouldn't suprise me if it costs $1/ea to actually make and mail the catalog.
Most catalog mailers will also remove you from their list automatically if you don't buy anything for a while (which is why they put a customer # and ask for it when you order something).
If Blockbuster wants to get CSS-encrypted movies, that's fine. But why does that mean that the movies I purchase also need to be CSS-ecrypted? Blockbuster already gets custom versions of some movies from the studios, so adding this should not be that hard.
It's not just that, of course. Will you ever have to type in all those, eh, "bits", as you call them? Yes you will. Sometimes you will have to do that. It takes 4 ("four") times as much typing to type in 128 (ehm) bits, as 32.
Whine whine. That's why we have DHCP, among other things. You seem to think that entering an IP address has to be done every day. It doesn't. You set it and leave it until you need to change.
Suppose postal codes had 35 digits. Do you think anyone would bother?
It already had 9 in the US. To dial a phone number, you typically need 10.
In summary: going to 128 bits was just plain stupid, given that the problems are real and the benefits imaginary.
Nice troll. You've proven nothing. Your only problem is that you can't remember 128 bits, which is not my concern.
Not just theoretical problems, but actual nasty, time wasting problems that get in your face. (And we didn't even talk about the way they dropped the ball on IPv4 address compatibility, or did we.)
You didn't enlighten me with your knowledge. But that's okay. IPv6 and IPv4 work just fine together and have for years.
IIRC, you could stun small woodland creatures with Snow Crash, but it was fun reading. Zodiac and Diamond Age were moderately-sized but also fun reading. I think Crypto is the size of all the rest of his works put together.
The biggest complaint of his books is he doesn't know how to end. You're reading along and then the book ends. It's far too sudden.
Waitaminute. The reason you say it's bad has to do with the fact you can't remember that many bits anymore. What's all the other reasons that 128 bits is bad? Too much bandwidth consumed to build the IPv6 header??
Excuse me for repeating myself, but we're not talking about memory, we're talking about public IP addresses. A byte of memory is not the same as an IP address. (And argument by analogy is just rhetoric.)
One thing about disk space, memory, bandwidth, and IP addresses will always be true: growth is going to increase.
It's your kind of short-sighted thinking that got us into the current address space shortage. It's not 128 bits for reasons we can think of now, it's 128 bits because of the reasons we can't think of. Once we go to 128 bits there is a very good chance that humanity will NEVER have to deal with this issue ever again.
Look at how long it has taken IPv6 to get to where it is now. It's been YEARS. Imagine doing that every 10 years or so. Go from 40 bits to 64...64 to 96, 96 to 128. Why bother taking baby steps?
MSFT was using release dates and pre-announcements like this for a while to harm their competitors.
Company A would come up with some new feature and announce it. MFST announces that the will also include the new feature in 6 months. Company A's sales go down the toilet as users wait for MSFT to release their product. Company A goes out of business. MSFT finally implements it 2 years later. Poorly.
Besides, MSFT has almost never been on time with their releases.
Sheesh. I'm making statements, and your only reaction is to say I'm clueless. You spend too much time here and not enough time thinking about what I'm saying.
I made a statement that GIFs can be made that most readers will accept and yet is patent free. If you don't like it, use PNG or JPG which are perfectly fine replacements. Those are your options, unless you want to pay to license LZW.
Giving 'what if' scenarios makes you lose your credibility.
My contention (which has yet to be disproven) is that coders can work and do work around crappy patents already. In some cases (GIF and MP3) the patents are just plain ignored as alternatives are developed. It's far too costly for Unisys to go after EVERY violator of their patents.
In the case of patents like those covering SSL, the patents are also ignored with development going on in countries where such patents are not valid. The patent owner in this case (RSA) graciously expired their patent a few months early.
Austin Powers (the first one anyway) Hudson Hawk (the director ass kissing everyone except Bruce Willis) Red Dwarf (this was one of the best, had all the actors in the same room) Snatch ('the suits outside are passing us notes asking us to talk about blah')
Now you're nitpicking. What if my head turns into a block of gouda?
The standards change. Look at what happened when Unisys did pull their stunt with LZW. PNG and JPG suddenly became the 'in' thing, and there was a big public backlash. Enough so that Unisys pretty much backed down. I don't use GIFs for my graphics and it doesn't bother me in the least.
For patents covering standards that are already in place (say someone patents hyperlinks?), then it's up to the standards body or some other organization to defend itself against the patent.
The patents cover the LZW compression algorithm, not the GIF file spec itself. Thus, there are other ways to make GIF files that do not use LZW.
Let's face it. We're already in a world where there are software patents, and much like the Internet, Open Source (Free Software) has found a way to block it off, and route around it. We have PNGs and JPGs, OGG Vorbis and Theora.
What we really need to be worried about are patents that try to cover more than what they should. For example, a patent that covers any form of video compression.
First computer bug. You will need to scroll down to the bottom to see the it. The rest of the page talks about Grace Hopper, who helped coin the phrase.
Sorry, my childhood died when I watched Bugs Bunny years later and noticed that explosions, gun shots, and a bunch of other bits that were funny had been taken out. Not many things funnier than Wile E. Coyote or Elmer Fudd burnt to a crisp with their hair blown back after the TNT went off too soon.
I heard the same thing from a pilot years ago. Not sure if it's still true or not.
One thing I did notice was the first cell phone I got (~1994) had the strange side effect that just before the cell phone would ring, the power on my computer speakers would cut out. That's one heck of an EM pulse to cause that, and it's not hard to imagine what a plane full of phones about to ring would do to fun electrics like the GPS/radio/etc.
Re:Anybody checked out Neuros?
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Neuros rocks. About the same cost as an ipod, but includes FM receive and FM broadcast that actually works.
Expansion is via backpacks, so as technology changes you only need to buy new backpacks instead of an entire new unit.
Bose makes good stuff. I've worked directly with the engineers at Bose, some of the best physicists on the planet work in Bose labs. I've installed some of their commerical grade stuff in churches and other facilities, and it's pretty impressive. Unless you can tell me why Bose sucks, I have to believe you're just lashing out and can't think of anything better to say.
Less lashing out, more comments from friends who used to work at ADS/Orion who got good views of the stuff Bose put out. Then again, Bose is still around....
For the most part, the comments surrounded the need for Bose speakers to be connected to Bose amps to get the best performance, otherwise the frequency range gets screwed.
Exactly. Don't forget MyFI (broadcast MP3s over FM to nearby stereos). The quality of the FM broadcast is really good, and uses an internal antenna so you don't have to play with the location of the headphones.
I bought the 20G Neuros and have been playing with it for the past week. This thing rocks on toast. OGG and Linux client support is due out soon. Now if only they could get some USB2.0 support...*sigh*
$1000 for cables? For Bose speakers? After paying that much, no wonder you consider yourself an audio snob. Buy some cheaper cables and better speakers.
Because we (the Linux community) should not be acting like Fox "news".
MSFT licenses code from SCO. Big honking deal. It doesn't prove a thing. If you have some sort of evidence that MSFT is involved somehow, we'd love to see it. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
Except for the fact that SCO pulled a profit this quarter. And the Novell news was probably released too early for anyone to really care, at least during the conference call. And the stock has tripled in value since this whole thing started.
Where did the X come from in the first playstation?
In MA at least, that holds true officially. The person handling our unemployment class told us we didn't have to take the first job offer we got if it was a big departure from our previous position (Sys admin to garbageman... hmm... maybe a better analogy is in order??), or if the new position paid significantly less than our previous position.
Don't forget the cost for LL Bean to create the content for the catalog along with actually printing the catalog. I wouldn't suprise me if it costs $1/ea to actually make and mail the catalog.
Most catalog mailers will also remove you from their list automatically if you don't buy anything for a while (which is why they put a customer # and ask for it when you order something).
That's not my problem.
If Blockbuster wants to get CSS-encrypted movies, that's fine. But why does that mean that the movies I purchase also need to be CSS-ecrypted? Blockbuster already gets custom versions of some movies from the studios, so adding this should not be that hard.
You never saw how many UNIX man pages I printed out in 1989 on my KXP-1180(?). It was a stack a good 6-8 inches high.
But on the bright side, I learned a lot from it.
It's not just that, of course. Will you ever have to type in all those, eh, "bits", as you call them? Yes you will. Sometimes you will have to do that. It takes 4 ("four") times as much typing to type in 128 (ehm) bits, as 32.
Whine whine. That's why we have DHCP, among other things. You seem to think that entering an IP address has to be done every day. It doesn't. You set it and leave it until you need to change.
Suppose postal codes had 35 digits. Do you think anyone would bother?
It already had 9 in the US. To dial a phone number, you typically need 10.
In summary: going to 128 bits was just plain stupid, given that the problems are real and the benefits imaginary.
Nice troll. You've proven nothing. Your only problem is that you can't remember 128 bits, which is not my concern.
Not just theoretical problems, but actual nasty, time wasting problems that get in your face. (And we didn't even talk about the way they dropped the ball on IPv4 address compatibility, or did we.)
You didn't enlighten me with your knowledge. But that's okay. IPv6 and IPv4 work just fine together and have for years.
IIRC, you could stun small woodland creatures with Snow Crash, but it was fun reading. Zodiac and Diamond Age were moderately-sized but also fun reading. I think Crypto is the size of all the rest of his works put together.
The biggest complaint of his books is he doesn't know how to end. You're reading along and then the book ends. It's far too sudden.
Waitaminute. The reason you say it's bad has to do with the fact you can't remember that many bits anymore. What's all the other reasons that 128 bits is bad? Too much bandwidth consumed to build the IPv6 header??
Excuse me for repeating myself, but we're not talking about memory, we're talking about public IP addresses. A byte of memory is not the same as an IP address. (And argument by analogy is just rhetoric.)
One thing about disk space, memory, bandwidth, and IP addresses will always be true: growth is going to increase.
It's your kind of short-sighted thinking that got us into the current address space shortage. It's not 128 bits for reasons we can think of now, it's 128 bits because of the reasons we can't think of. Once we go to 128 bits there is a very good chance that humanity will NEVER have to deal with this issue ever again.
Look at how long it has taken IPv6 to get to where it is now. It's been YEARS. Imagine doing that every 10 years or so. Go from 40 bits to 64...64 to 96, 96 to 128. Why bother taking baby steps?
MSFT was using release dates and pre-announcements like this for a while to harm their competitors.
Company A would come up with some new feature and announce it. MFST announces that the will also include the new feature in 6 months. Company A's sales go down the toilet as users wait for MSFT to release their product. Company A goes out of business. MSFT finally implements it 2 years later. Poorly.
Besides, MSFT has almost never been on time with their releases.
What, did I whiz in your wheaties this morning?
Sheesh. I'm making statements, and your only reaction is to say I'm clueless. You spend too much time here and not enough time thinking about what I'm saying.
I made a statement that GIFs can be made that most readers will accept and yet is patent free. If you don't like it, use PNG or JPG which are perfectly fine replacements. Those are your options, unless you want to pay to license LZW.
Here, I'll save you the time to reply:
If you don't like it...
You're clueless!
Giving 'what if' scenarios makes you lose your credibility.
My contention (which has yet to be disproven) is that coders can work and do work around crappy patents already. In some cases (GIF and MP3) the patents are just plain ignored as alternatives are developed. It's far too costly for Unisys to go after EVERY violator of their patents.
In the case of patents like those covering SSL, the patents are also ignored with development going on in countries where such patents are not valid. The patent owner in this case (RSA) graciously expired their patent a few months early.
Other good commentaries:
Austin Powers (the first one anyway)
Hudson Hawk (the director ass kissing everyone except Bruce Willis)
Red Dwarf (this was one of the best, had all the
actors in the same room)
Snatch ('the suits outside are passing us notes asking us to talk about blah')
So what you're saying is software patents aren't bad, but mathematical patents are?
Now you're nitpicking. What if my head turns into a block of gouda?
The standards change. Look at what happened when Unisys did pull their stunt with LZW. PNG and JPG suddenly became the 'in' thing, and there was a big public backlash. Enough so that Unisys pretty much backed down. I don't use GIFs for my graphics and it doesn't bother me in the least.
For patents covering standards that are already in place (say someone patents hyperlinks?), then it's up to the standards body or some other organization to defend itself against the patent.
The patents cover the LZW compression algorithm, not the GIF file spec itself. Thus, there are other ways to make GIF files that do not use LZW.
Let's face it. We're already in a world where there are software patents, and much like the Internet, Open Source (Free Software) has found a way to block it off, and route around it. We have PNGs and JPGs, OGG Vorbis and Theora.
What we really need to be worried about are patents that try to cover more than what they should. For example, a patent that covers any form of video compression.
First computer bug. You will need to scroll down to the bottom to see the it. The rest of the page talks about Grace Hopper, who helped coin the phrase.
Sorry, my childhood died when I watched Bugs Bunny years later and noticed that explosions, gun shots, and a bunch of other bits that were funny had been taken out. Not many things funnier than Wile E. Coyote or Elmer Fudd burnt to a crisp with their hair blown back after the TNT went off too soon.
I heard the same thing from a pilot years ago. Not sure if it's still true or not.
One thing I did notice was the first cell phone I got (~1994) had the strange side effect that just before the cell phone would ring, the power on my computer speakers would cut out. That's one heck of an EM pulse to cause that, and it's not hard to imagine what a plane full of phones about to ring would do to fun electrics like the GPS/radio/etc.
Neuros rocks. About the same cost as an ipod, but includes FM receive and FM broadcast that actually works.
Expansion is via backpacks, so as technology changes you only need to buy new backpacks instead of an entire new unit.
Bose makes good stuff. I've worked directly with the engineers at Bose, some of the best physicists on the planet work in Bose labs. I've installed some of their commerical grade stuff in churches and other facilities, and it's pretty impressive. Unless you can tell me why Bose sucks, I have to believe you're just lashing out and can't think of anything better to say.
Less lashing out, more comments from friends who used to work at ADS/Orion who got good views of the stuff Bose put out. Then again, Bose is still around....
For the most part, the comments surrounded the need for Bose speakers to be connected to Bose amps to get the best performance, otherwise the frequency range gets screwed.
Exactly. Don't forget MyFI (broadcast MP3s over FM to nearby stereos). The quality of the FM broadcast is really good, and uses an internal antenna so you don't have to play with the location of the headphones.
I bought the 20G Neuros and have been playing with it for the past week. This thing rocks on toast. OGG and Linux client support is due out soon. Now if only they could get some USB2.0 support...*sigh*
$1000 for cables? For Bose speakers? After paying that much, no wonder you consider yourself an audio snob. Buy some cheaper cables and better speakers.