Come on, what was it you were trying to do with those Office Documents that was so simple, yet wasted your time? Let's have some facts along with your pathetic opinion.
So me and my team use Office, MSSQL and Exchange all day every day - most of the time without even thinking about it - to format our letters, tally our spreadsheets, keep our database alive, accessible and consistent, and we're just "mesmerised" that it's working huh? I'm a Linux advocate, you are a zealot. I have never and can't forsee running Windows at home, but I'm not going to delude myself, as you have, that everything I don't use has so suck, to make my choice better.
Look mate, I'm an intellegent person. Don't waste my time with your fucking pathetic drivel. So you tried to lay out your school magazine with MS Word and it bit you in the ass. Good job. I use Office as a business tool. Not, it's not free, but we feel we get our money's worth out of it. No, it's not perfect either, but if you know of a Linux distro that's more office-ready than MS Office itself, why the fuck haven't I heard of it?
You'll need to do more than just shit on Office whenever you get the chance to destroy its stronghold. You just make yourself look stupid when you say how much time you've wasted trying to do things in office. Me, I've saved time with it.
I asked if anyone could "show me", not how anybody feels. And you say it's an "order of magnitude" faster than Ruby. While I can't be bothered verifying it, I can be certain that you don't know what you're talking about, and that you're a python programmer who only replied to me because you didn't have mod points.
Simple rule (of business):
If someone wants something of me, they'll be paying for it. If we have to go to a teensy bit more trouble (and come on, we're not talking much) more than our competitor to do it, we'll "suck it up".
Customer: Can you print these flyers right now!? I'm in a hurry.
You: Ugh, icky, MSPublisher doc!
Me: Who's yo daddy?
and you are letting folk email you MS Office documents instead of open format documents because... ? Holy putting words in my mouth, batman.
You seemed to be proposing not letting "folk" (that's the guys who send us those cheques each month) "email" MS Office documents, no? I bit, because it seemed like a stupid idea. Because it is a stupid idea. Way to represent Open Source. You don't really think you're going to convince everyone you deal with that they shouldn't send Word docs around do you? I don't have a single Windows box at home either, but I'm not about to screw up my job by trying to talk my bosses into dropping a system that's working fine for them, and always has. And they're certainly not going to remember to send you attachments in.RTF or whatever you want, nevermind why.
There's a wide range of labels you can put on my behaviour: zealot, obstinate, firm, not easily swayed, resolute, steadfast. And I, for one, don't block it at the mail filter. I didn't put one label on your behaviour, and you just listed six. You accuse me for putting words in your mouth for making a perfectly reasonable assumption, that you seem to block office docs being emailed to you, therefore 'A Mail Filter'.
Sure, FastCGI is great, I agree. But, even after all these years "Fast" and "Python" still aren't allowed to be used in the same sentence, hence CherryPy. Mark me Troll, that's fine, but please tell me: Am I the only one that thinks CGI in python is insane because it's the all round slowest-to-run programming language about? Sure it's nice to write and easier to read than most, but for any program you end up running 100 times more often than you write it, choose somthing else.
Can anybody show me that Python is a realistic contender for CGI - or for that matter - any programming?
I used to subject myself to a Linux distribution called Gentoo whose package mismanagement system, Portage, is mostly if not entirely done in Python. I found that for compiles of many small packages, we spent about as many CPU seconds on 'emerge' itself than we did building. Running 'emerge' on something old and spluttery like a sparc32 is just not the done thing. You've got probably 30 seconds before you've got any indication that the program has validated your input and started processing at which point you find something else to do.
...because customers never give up and go somewhere else because you refuse to accept Word documents!
They'll be completely understanding and comply when you tell them to export their spreadsheet as a CSV, and that they support illegal monopolies and slavery by using Excel.
Get real. I egde away from Microsoft wherever our business will tolerate it, but I will not do anything that will lessen our abilities, that includes the types of files we can accept and use.
Face it: We've all got valid problems with Microsoft, but you can't deny that MS Office is the most complete and well-integrated suite available for any OS at this point.
My hat goes off to those that put effort into OpenOffice, but I'm not going to like it just because it's not Microsoft.
Way to change the world, blocking office documents at your mail filter.
I think 10% is a pretty conservative estimate. Say you're ray-tracing, being very cpu-bound and not very io-bound. You'll still get few context switches because drivers for IO aren't being called very often. If you do something heavy on the disks, like `find/', you'll probably use more CPU due to lots of context switches, but still leave plenty of idle time due to always waiting on the disk. So in either of those (admittedly specific) situations, I don't believe we'll notice any penalty.
In addition, maybe processors of the future will have new instructions for things like context switches and interrupt handling. Hell, they may already, I've seen more sparc asm than x86.
Oh thanks! I've got the exact cartoon on my office wall, but had no idea how to find it on the net to link to without sifting through lots of cartoons, so I didn't bother and quoted it best I could.
PHB: I think we should build an SQL database.
Dilbert (thinking):Does he know what he's talking about, or did he read it in a trade magazine ad?
Dilbert (speaking):What color would you like that database?
PHB: I think mauve has the most RAM.
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LOL, only on Slashdot. The userbase of an application slips by some miniscule amount that actually can be attributed to much more than just "statistical noise" (User agent plugin, anyone?), and we get fifty posts by folks splitting hairs over whether it's 7.4, 7.5, 8.0 or 9.1 percent of their total usership.
Set your comment threshold to 5, and all you see is the token "I for one welcome," post, and some goatse link purporting to be an article mirror.
Yes, but as another insightful folk pointed out up the page, because you're centralising the emissions to one place, you can handle them more efficiently there. And it makes sense - easier to keep on huge powerstation in tune, so to speak, than a million cars.
Getting the same performance out of hydrogen as we get with petrol will probably be quite some problem, however. I imagine modification will be impossible, a complete redesign stroke and bore in the engine block will be necessary due to the explosiveness off Hydroge.
Not really. Macs only ran 68000 series up into the LC range, until PowerPC came out. I think the first PPC chip to be used was Motorola 601 but it might have been 603, not sure. The G3 - G5 range is another implementation again.
So no, they dropped those CPUs like, more than a decade ago.
I'd say to sue the bank for defamation of character or suchlike, but I imagine there's probably a protective law against that somewhere.
Um, yeah. You actually have to have been _defamed_ in the first place. She could sue the bank for assault and battery, but there's probably a "protective law" in the way of that, too.
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So me and my team use Office, MSSQL and Exchange all day every day - most of the time without even thinking about it - to format our letters, tally our spreadsheets, keep our database alive, accessible and consistent, and we're just "mesmerised" that it's working huh? I'm a Linux advocate, you are a zealot. I have never and can't forsee running Windows at home, but I'm not going to delude myself, as you have, that everything I don't use has so suck, to make my choice better.
Look mate, I'm an intellegent person. Don't waste my time with your fucking pathetic drivel. So you tried to lay out your school magazine with MS Word and it bit you in the ass. Good job. I use Office as a business tool. Not, it's not free, but we feel we get our money's worth out of it. No, it's not perfect either, but if you know of a Linux distro that's more office-ready than MS Office itself, why the fuck haven't I heard of it?
You'll need to do more than just shit on Office whenever you get the chance to destroy its stronghold. You just make yourself look stupid when you say how much time you've wasted trying to do things in office. Me, I've saved time with it.
I asked if anyone could "show me", not how anybody feels. And you say it's an "order of magnitude" faster than Ruby. While I can't be bothered verifying it, I can be certain that you don't know what you're talking about, and that you're a python programmer who only replied to me because you didn't have mod points.
I see, just a misunderstanding, sorry. Hi from Northland NZ.
If someone wants something of me, they'll be paying for it. If we have to go to a teensy bit more trouble (and come on, we're not talking much) more than our competitor to do it, we'll "suck it up".
Customer: Can you print these flyers right now!? I'm in a hurry.
You: Ugh, icky, MSPublisher doc!
Me: Who's yo daddy?
Holy putting words in my mouth, batman.
You seemed to be proposing not letting "folk" (that's the guys who send us those cheques each month) "email" MS Office documents, no? I bit, because it seemed like a stupid idea. Because it is a stupid idea. Way to represent Open Source. You don't really think you're going to convince everyone you deal with that they shouldn't send Word docs around do you? I don't have a single Windows box at home either, but I'm not about to screw up my job by trying to talk my bosses into dropping a system that's working fine for them, and always has. And they're certainly not going to remember to send you attachments in .RTF or whatever you want, nevermind why.
There's a wide range of labels you can put on my behaviour: zealot, obstinate, firm, not easily swayed, resolute, steadfast.
And I, for one, don't block it at the mail filter.
I didn't put one label on your behaviour, and you just listed six. You accuse me for putting words in your mouth for making a perfectly reasonable assumption, that you seem to block office docs being emailed to you, therefore 'A Mail Filter'.
Finally, I will label you. "Fucking Spinner"
Can anybody show me that Python is a realistic contender for CGI - or for that matter - any programming? I used to subject myself to a Linux distribution called Gentoo whose package mismanagement system, Portage, is mostly if not entirely done in Python. I found that for compiles of many small packages, we spent about as many CPU seconds on 'emerge' itself than we did building. Running 'emerge' on something old and spluttery like a sparc32 is just not the done thing. You've got probably 30 seconds before you've got any indication that the program has validated your input and started processing at which point you find something else to do.
They'll be completely understanding and comply when you tell them to export their spreadsheet as a CSV, and that they support illegal monopolies and slavery by using Excel.
Get real. I egde away from Microsoft wherever our business will tolerate it, but I will not do anything that will lessen our abilities, that includes the types of files we can accept and use.
Face it: We've all got valid problems with Microsoft, but you can't deny that MS Office is the most complete and well-integrated suite available for any OS at this point.
My hat goes off to those that put effort into OpenOffice, but I'm not going to like it just because it's not Microsoft.
Way to change the world, blocking office documents at your mail filter.
Nah they're too hard to catch.
Our chicks are much hotter, though.
In addition, maybe processors of the future will have new instructions for things like context switches and interrupt handling. Hell, they may already, I've seen more sparc asm than x86.
Oh thanks! I've got the exact cartoon on my office wall, but had no idea how to find it on the net to link to without sifting through lots of cartoons, so I didn't bother and quoted it best I could.
PHB: I think we should build an SQL database.
Dilbert (thinking):Does he know what he's talking about, or did he read it in a trade magazine ad?
Dilbert (speaking):What color would you like that database?
PHB: I think mauve has the most RAM. -
If it doesn't, it sucks.
Just randomly abort the CGI scripts and throw out an HTTP/503. That's how slashdot does it, and he did "ask slashdot".
And I have another excuse to drink beer!
Set your comment threshold to 5, and all you see is the token "I for one welcome," post, and some goatse link purporting to be an article mirror.
Oh slashdot, how do I love thee...
Just one of those jokes that's _really_ hard to spot. Read: a joke of a joke.
How about you give me a dollar, and I'll give you back a quarter? Repeat every day.
Getting the same performance out of hydrogen as we get with petrol will probably be quite some problem, however. I imagine modification will be impossible, a complete redesign stroke and bore in the engine block will be necessary due to the explosiveness off Hydroge.
So no, they dropped those CPUs like, more than a decade ago.
Um, yeah. You actually have to have been _defamed_ in the first place. She could sue the bank for assault and battery, but there's probably a "protective law" in the way of that, too.
Agreed, fair enough. I retract my comment and stand corrected.
Where I come from, unless there's a sign on the door saying "OPEN" or "ENTER", thou shalt not.
When the article came up for me, it was already Saturday!
Just my two cents.