Your post's validity and any semblance of maturity was nullified by the usage of the dollar sign in Microsoft and the childish epithets for HP and Compaq.
Aside from that, you're right. HP and Compaq divided don't hold much to the volume Dell moves, but together they have the power to crush them, especially if Dell falls from Microsoft's favor.
Put down the crackpipe buddy and take a long step back. All @home providers cap uploads at 128Kbps, including comcast.. who, by the way, has one of the worst customer satisfaction ratings as far as broadband goes. But I digress. Roadrunner is also capped, I believe, but the majority of Time Warner cable modems cap at 384Kbps. I know, I have one. That 10Mbps number is just funny, no cable modem in existence even downloads at 10Mbps and the majority only reach 1.5Mbps download speed.
This isn't part of the processor. The processor will *NOT* change.
The L3 cache is built into the motherboard. Specifically the Northbridge which interfaces the CPU to the memory, among other things. Previously the Micron chipset, designed to use DDR SDRAM, did just that. And apparently they found a lot of empty space on the Northbridge design and decided to put some extra cache on it to reduce the memory latency.
A good thing. And likely at little to no cost.
Because. The silicon was going to be used anyway, now its just actually going to have DRAM cache etched onto it now. read: no extra materials.
It's already happening. Almost all, if not all, of the enthusiast market has acknowledged the power and performance of the Athlon. Intel has lost major face in this community. And what the techies and geeks know slowly trickles down. Many of the people buying high performance may not know name, but they know price. When you see at $400-$500 disparity, they will almost enquire as to the difference. And who do they ask? A techie or geek.
That's likely because those with broadband are likely to play more and get better, since they are likely frustrated less. Dialups take one look at their 300 ping and being abused by the LPBs, they give up.
It's what I did, I started out on Counterstrike with a 350 ping and I would get absolutely battered on every server. So I gave up. I started college in August, and we have an oncampus Counterstrike server, so I tend to play there a lot. I ping at 30-40 most of the time. When I started playing, I still sucked really bad. But I would get an occasional kill by sheer virtue of my ping. So I had a little motivation to continue playing. I've been playing for a little over two months, and now I mostly place within the top two of my team, often doubling my kills to my deaths. Which is rather good in Counterstrike.
I started with the same level of skill with both connections, but the fast connections are more likely to develop good playing skills.
That's his style. He's a twelve year old script kiddie trapped in a webmaster's body who does all kinds of funny things. He runs a hardware review site and writes articles all in that style. It's hilarious.
My upgrade theory is to hold onto my system, the board and the CPU, until someone releases a CPU that is three times faster. At which point, I will buy a CPU that is twice as fast as my current one. It keeps you well within the price/performance curve. In between the CPU upgrades, you can focus on other parts of the system, the video card, the hard drive, etc.
It's worked for me for the last 10 years.
My first computer. A 16 Mhz 386.
Intel releases the 50 Mhz Pentiums.
I buy a 40 Mhz 486.
Intel releases the 166 Mhz PPros.
(I was a bit behind here)
I buy a 150 Mhz Cyrix.
Intel releases the 450 Mhz P2's.
I buy a 333Mhz Celeron.
AMD/Intel release their 1Ghz parts.
I buy an 800Mhz Tbird.
(I got a bit ahead here, but they were so cheap!)
The government gets involved because these type of business practices discourage competition, which is one of the fundamentals that capitalism operates on. Without the government involvement, the basis for a self regulating economy breaks down.
This isn't invasive government, this is the government doing what they are supposed to. Protect the people.
"How would you achieve this? without being caught and hated that is? and without government protection... "
Same way the robber barons did in the 1920's. Which is why we have the anti-trust laws today. Standard Oil would start selling their products at a huge loss. But because of their available capital, they could do it. And once their incredibly low prices drove everyone else out of business, they raised prices and gouged everyone on their monopoly.
Same way the steamboat companies of the Mississippi did business. One company, the name slips my mind at the moment, would run their lines at such a low rate to drive everyone else out of business, unless the other lines paid them money to not run in their areas. It got to such an extreme, that this company had an income in the millions without ever running a boat.
Business does not have the consumer's interests in mind, no matter what the libertarians will tell you.
If I want to listen to Band X's music. Name on alternative I have.
I have none.
If I want to buy a microwave. I look at one company's microwave. It's too expensive. So I vote with my dollars.
I have alternatives.
Other companies, other models, other options. etc.
The music industry has the market right where it wants us, you have to buy from the one source of Band X's music, or you are SOL. There are no options, no other companies, no other avenues.
People were sick of it, and voted with their Napsters.:)
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I may point out that there are no SMP athlon boards. So the other one is just taped to the power supply, eh?
The cash registers at our local grocery store lock up rather often and you get to see them POST and boot right into OS/2 when the employees have to reboot them. I've actually helped them fix them, they are just gutted IBM boxes with PR166 Cyrix's in them.
Heh. OS/2. The OS is actually quite stable, it appears that the program they use to interface with the scanner/scale is rather flaky.
The Napster transfer protocol is already public. There are already several networks with thousands of users and terabytes of files. MyNapster and OpenNAP are the two big ones. And these networks are already able to communicate with each other. with MyNapster, not only can I search the server I'm on, but I can search all the ones on the network I'm on and all the networks connected to that one.
And you can connect to these servers using the old Napster software, with Napigator: www.napigator.com, or with new clients such as MyNapster: www.mynapster.com. There are also several other clients for other platforms.
So now we have a viable Napster replacement, but the opening of the protocol has brought a few improvements.
more decentralized more connectivity more choice in clients or GUIs
Unfortunately the RIAA is playing a game of Whack-The-Mole. It can sue all the file sharing services it wants, but another will always pop up. Soon, it's only choice is going to be to embrace digital music and to give consumers alternatives.
If everyone used Napster, both Fred Durst AND Lars Ulrich would be working at McDonalds, probably together, bitching about how they wish they could make money off of their music, instead of having to distribute it for free. </bribecka>
If everyone used Napster, both Fred Durst AND Lars Ulrich would be forced to make a CD with 16 *good* songs. Metallica does. And consequently, I own all their CDs. Now as for Fred Durst, Limp Bizkit is crap. (sorry to all the LB fans) I wouldn't pay $16 for their CD. However I do like one or two songs contained on said CD, and I would pay for those. If the industry would embrace this technology they'd be able to sell those songs to me.
mp3s ripped from CDs bought of bands I like. mp3s downloaded from albums that I wouldn't pay $16 for the entire CD.
mp3s have encouraged me to buy more CDs, if I download enough songs from a CD that it becomes worth $16 of my hard earned money then it becomes bought and ripped back to mp3.
so you could say Napster has actually *increased* my CD buying habits. I've always been hesitant to spend $16 on a CD I've heard only a few songs from, Napster changed this.
this being said, the music industry could still squeeze more money out of me if they were to embrace this concept instead of fighting it. if I don't think the CD is worth $16 for the whole album, I could have the option of purchasing the songs at 75 cents or a buck a pop. then I could buy the good songs. no one wants crappy music.
I much more enjoy listening to mp3s than CDs. just the physical presence of CDs has become cumbersome. they can be stolen, damaged, broken, lost, and take up too much space. and you have to spend inane amounts of money for a CD changer with a capacity greater than maybe 6 CDs. 6 hours of music. I have 34 hours of music on my playlist, I can play them in any order I please. if I want to listen to a new artist, instead of flipping CDs, I click it. much simpler. and with my mptrip cd player, I can burn a CD-RW with mp3s and have 10 hours of music, portable. in my car, I have a rig with a 4.8 gig hard drive in it, that was built for a little more than the cost of a regular car cd player. I don't own 40 hours of mp3 music, but the 34 on there now suits me just fine. and it never skips. I will never go back to CDs. digital music has me spoiled.
I think the music industry and the consumers, as well as the judicial system, need to take a good look at the potential for this technology, it is there. Everyone involved is going to have to make some concessions to make it work, but if everyone makes small ones, then no one has to give up a great deal. I'll be the first one in line for micropayments for single songs, as long as the price fits.
Depends how much padding you like to have when shit goes wrong. I'd rather have the seatbelt, airbags, etc. on a car between me and the road when I lose control at 180 mph. You could have a small piece of glass and a helmet to protect you when you fly off said bike at 190.
I could really use an ATA/66 transporter room controller card with 128MB of DDR Molecular Pattern Buffers. I'm planning on building a low-middle end intergalatic starship on a budget.
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Your post's validity and any semblance of maturity was nullified by the usage of the dollar sign in Microsoft and the childish epithets for HP and Compaq.
Aside from that, you're right. HP and Compaq divided don't hold much to the volume Dell moves, but together they have the power to crush them, especially if Dell falls from Microsoft's favor.
10Mbps UP WITH @HOME?!
;p
Put down the crackpipe buddy and take a long step back. All @home providers cap uploads at 128Kbps, including comcast.. who, by the way, has one of the worst customer satisfaction ratings as far as broadband goes. But I digress. Roadrunner is also capped, I believe, but the majority of Time Warner cable modems cap at 384Kbps. I know, I have one. That 10Mbps number is just funny, no cable modem in existence even downloads at 10Mbps and the majority only reach 1.5Mbps download speed.
so there.
That was Denis Leary.
He also said: "i didn't quit drugs because they were bad for me, its because i didn't want to build anything."
Or something like that.
And the Intel 400 Mhz FSB is QDR and the actual frequency is 100 Mhz.
Your point?
The Athlon core is not an Intel clone.
It's not based off any Intel designs.
Being x86 hardly qualifies it to be called Intel clone.
The special thing about this that many people don't seem to grasp.
The L3 is *not* buffering the CPU to core logic. It's buffering core logic to main memory.
Very cool. Makes bandwidth go boom and latencies go flop.
This isn't part of the processor. The processor will *NOT* change.
The L3 cache is built into the motherboard. Specifically the Northbridge which interfaces the CPU to the memory, among other things. Previously the Micron chipset, designed to use DDR SDRAM, did just that. And apparently they found a lot of empty space on the Northbridge design and decided to put some extra cache on it to reduce the memory latency.
A good thing. And likely at little to no cost.
Because. The silicon was going to be used anyway, now its just actually going to have DRAM cache etched onto it now. read: no extra materials.
It's already happening. Almost all, if not all, of the enthusiast market has acknowledged the power and performance of the Athlon. Intel has lost major face in this community. And what the techies and geeks know slowly trickles down. Many of the people buying high performance may not know name, but they know price. When you see at $400-$500 disparity, they will almost enquire as to the difference. And who do they ask? A techie or geek.
That's likely because those with broadband are likely to play more and get better, since they are likely frustrated less. Dialups take one look at their 300 ping and being abused by the LPBs, they give up.
It's what I did, I started out on Counterstrike with a 350 ping and I would get absolutely battered on every server. So I gave up. I started college in August, and we have an oncampus Counterstrike server, so I tend to play there a lot. I ping at 30-40 most of the time. When I started playing, I still sucked really bad. But I would get an occasional kill by sheer virtue of my ping. So I had a little motivation to continue playing. I've been playing for a little over two months, and now I mostly place within the top two of my team, often doubling my kills to my deaths. Which is rather good in Counterstrike.
I started with the same level of skill with both connections, but the fast connections are more likely to develop good playing skills.
I'll shut up now.
That's his style. He's a twelve year old script kiddie trapped in a webmaster's body who does all kinds of funny things. He runs a hardware review site and writes articles all in that style. It's hilarious.
http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk
And one of them has already been written by Anonymous Cowards.
My upgrade theory is to hold onto my system, the board and the CPU, until someone releases a CPU that is three times faster. At which point, I will buy a CPU that is twice as fast as my current one. It keeps you well within the price/performance curve. In between the CPU upgrades, you can focus on other parts of the system, the video card, the hard drive, etc.
It's worked for me for the last 10 years.
My first computer. A 16 Mhz 386.
Intel releases the 50 Mhz Pentiums.
I buy a 40 Mhz 486.
Intel releases the 166 Mhz PPros.
(I was a bit behind here)
I buy a 150 Mhz Cyrix.
Intel releases the 450 Mhz P2's.
I buy a 333Mhz Celeron.
AMD/Intel release their 1Ghz parts.
I buy an 800Mhz Tbird.
(I got a bit ahead here, but they were so cheap!)
:)
The government gets involved because these type of business practices discourage competition, which is one of the fundamentals that capitalism operates on. Without the government involvement, the basis for a self regulating economy breaks down.
This isn't invasive government, this is the government doing what they are supposed to. Protect the people.
And I quote:
"How would you achieve this? without being caught and hated that is? and without government protection... "
Same way the robber barons did in the 1920's. Which is why we have the anti-trust laws today. Standard Oil would start selling their products at a huge loss. But because of their available capital, they could do it. And once their incredibly low prices drove everyone else out of business, they raised prices and gouged everyone on their monopoly.
Same way the steamboat companies of the Mississippi did business. One company, the name slips my mind at the moment, would run their lines at such a low rate to drive everyone else out of business, unless the other lines paid them money to not run in their areas. It got to such an extreme, that this company had an income in the millions without ever running a boat.
Business does not have the consumer's interests in mind, no matter what the libertarians will tell you.
If I want to listen to Band X's music. Name on alternative I have.
:)
I have none.
If I want to buy a microwave. I look at one company's microwave. It's too expensive. So I vote with my dollars.
I have alternatives.
Other companies, other models, other options. etc.
The music industry has the market right where it wants us, you have to buy from the one source of Band X's music, or you are SOL. There are no options, no other companies, no other avenues.
People were sick of it, and voted with their Napsters.
I may point out that there are no SMP athlon boards. So the other one is just taped to the power supply, eh?
The cash registers at our local grocery store lock up rather often and you get to see them POST and boot right into OS/2 when the employees have to reboot them. I've actually helped them fix them, they are just gutted IBM boxes with PR166 Cyrix's in them.
Heh. OS/2. The OS is actually quite stable, it appears that the program they use to interface with the scanner/scale is rather flaky.
The Napster transfer protocol is already public. There are already several networks with thousands of users and terabytes of files. MyNapster and OpenNAP are the two big ones. And these networks are already able to communicate with each other. with MyNapster, not only can I search the server I'm on, but I can search all the ones on the network I'm on and all the networks connected to that one.
And you can connect to these servers using the old Napster software, with Napigator: www.napigator.com, or with new clients such as MyNapster: www.mynapster.com. There are also several other clients for other platforms.
So now we have a viable Napster replacement, but the opening of the protocol has brought a few improvements.
more decentralized
more connectivity
more choice in clients or GUIs
Unfortunately the RIAA is playing a game of Whack-The-Mole. It can sue all the file sharing services it wants, but another will always pop up. Soon, it's only choice is going to be to embrace digital music and to give consumers alternatives.
If everyone used Napster, both Fred Durst AND Lars Ulrich would be working at McDonalds, probably together, bitching about how they wish they could make money off of their music, instead of having to distribute it for free.
</bribecka>
If everyone used Napster, both Fred Durst AND Lars Ulrich would be forced to make a CD with 16 *good* songs. Metallica does. And consequently, I own all their CDs. Now as for Fred Durst, Limp Bizkit is crap. (sorry to all the LB fans) I wouldn't pay $16 for their CD. However I do like one or two songs contained on said CD, and I would pay for those. If the industry would embrace this technology they'd be able to sell those songs to me.
Hey, look! A new revenue stream. Whaddya know.
There are two categories of mp3s that I own.
mp3s ripped from CDs bought of bands I like.
mp3s downloaded from albums that I wouldn't pay $16 for the entire CD.
mp3s have encouraged me to buy more CDs, if I download enough songs from a CD that it becomes worth $16 of my hard earned money then it becomes bought and ripped back to mp3.
so you could say Napster has actually *increased* my CD buying habits. I've always been hesitant to spend $16 on a CD I've heard only a few songs from, Napster changed this.
this being said, the music industry could still squeeze more money out of me if they were to embrace this concept instead of fighting it. if I don't think the CD is worth $16 for the whole album, I could have the option of purchasing the songs at 75 cents or a buck a pop. then I could buy the good songs. no one wants crappy music.
I much more enjoy listening to mp3s than CDs. just the physical presence of CDs has become cumbersome. they can be stolen, damaged, broken, lost, and take up too much space. and you have to spend inane amounts of money for a CD changer with a capacity greater than maybe 6 CDs. 6 hours of music. I have 34 hours of music on my playlist, I can play them in any order I please. if I want to listen to a new artist, instead of flipping CDs, I click it. much simpler. and with my mptrip cd player, I can burn a CD-RW with mp3s and have 10 hours of music, portable. in my car, I have a rig with a 4.8 gig hard drive in it, that was built for a little more than the cost of a regular car cd player. I don't own 40 hours of mp3 music, but the 34 on there now suits me just fine. and it never skips. I will never go back to CDs. digital music has me spoiled.
I think the music industry and the consumers, as well as the judicial system, need to take a good look at the potential for this technology, it is there. Everyone involved is going to have to make some concessions to make it work, but if everyone makes small ones, then no one has to give up a great deal. I'll be the first one in line for micropayments for single songs, as long as the price fits.
"But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
So why don't we nuke the United States.
"Would you really miss it?"
Just to see what would happen, you know.. if many of the DNS servers were gone.
Depends how much padding you like to have when shit goes wrong. I'd rather have the seatbelt, airbags, etc. on a car between me and the road when I lose control at 180 mph. You could have a small piece of glass and a helmet to protect you when you fly off said bike at 190.
"But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
Do you know someone manufacturing one of these?
I could really use an ATA/66 transporter room controller card with 128MB of DDR Molecular Pattern Buffers. I'm planning on building a low-middle end intergalatic starship on a budget.
Or do I need to buy a special motherboard?
Blast.
Aw lay off. If we wanted serious, we'd go to Tom's or Ars. This is just too good an opportunity to poke fun.
Heh, I said poke.
*snicker*
"Make the internet come alive."
From an Intel commercial. How amusingly.. er, amusing.