You may wish to re-read what I wrote. I said that NEW ICE sales will be destroyed. That means that they will drop a great deal when Model 3 hits the market. That does not mean that it will stop all sales. Nor does it mean that everybody will instantly stop driving ICE vehicles.
However, I would be shocked if ICE sales are not down by 25% before end of 2018. In addition, by that time, all of the major car makers will be screaming bloody murder about how much sales are down and that they need new money from their govs to move to electric (though German car makers are currently being forced by their crimes combined with their gov forcing them).
And if you do not think that M3 will make a splash, then simply watch what happens in the next 10 days.
Seriously, this is smart for Rockefeller's fund, because oil and coal will really plummet in another 5-10 years. Keep in mind that while EVs in 2 years are likely to destroy new ICE vehicle sales, current cars/trucks will be around for a LONG TIME. In addition, oil's greatest and best use was never for energy, but for chemistry. As such, it will never go to zero, but close.
Exxon's value is going to go way down, but oil use will simply continue a slow downward spiral to about 1/3-1/4 of current usage.
Against solar city? Seriously, China invests far far more into coal plants and mines each year. Heck, China is around 1100-1300 GW of coal plants ( Chinese gov numbers do not agree with what locals claim and what the plants are ). And this is growing at ~52 GW/ yr. Solar will not make a dent in their coal unless they stop building new plants and stop their old ones.
skip the gen 3 1 GW reactors.
We need the gen 4 reactors that can be built in factories, do 100-200 MWe and can be installed in 1-2 years. In addition, they can use nuclear waste, which is the smart thing to do.
solar and wind can not do the job by themselves. Even if we add geo-thermal (and we should), it will still not be enough. We need to add new nukes, but not the 1GW gen 3 reactors. Instead, we need to add gen IV reactors and burn up the vast majority of the 'waste' that we have. Most importantly, by adding new reactors, these can replace old ones, and go into replacing the majority of coal plants.
and yet, when the top scientists of the anti climate change group, dr. muller, got funding from the kock bros and looked into this, they changed their opinion. Basically, they showed that there can be little doubt that Climate change is occurring and that it is man-made. And yet, you far right wing nut jobs continue to ignore real scientists doing real work and showing it to be true.
So, fools like you can make wild claims, but the smart man says that if this is killing all of us, and if the current solutions are putting all the blame on the west (who all together is doing less than 1/3 of the emissions), should instead push to have ALL nations cutting their emissions TOGETHER.
Oddly, America is the ONLY nation that can force this. Why? Because we import more than all other nations.
I wish that I had read a few of these and had kept my points going. U should be marked down to a troll. Dr Hansen suffers the same issue that Obama does: far right wingers like you call them polarizing for doing their jobs. Neither Obama nor Hansen have been polarizing. It is you far right wing nut jobs that turn it into such because you refuse to simply look at the data and then you claim that they are the problem.
say that china gets a pass. In addition, the far left will continue to fight against the use of nuclear power, even though it could replace coal quickly.
I applaud Dr. Hansen and his work, but hate his followers are just as unscientific as the far right.
Depends on whose X-ray it is. If somebody important and shows say cancer, China can use info to put said person in position, with one of own backing em. If person does not have family, but is old, it can be used to find healthy duplicate that then is modified with plastic surgery. Information is power.
We already did. We voted obama in as president.
However, if the gop is unwilling to do their jobs, not a problem. The Senate will likely switch to dem control and the next president is also likely Clinton. She will simply put a young liberal in place. In addition, I would not be surprised if 3 more scotus positions open up in the next 4 years, with 1 being Kennedy. As such, scotus will become liberal for 40+ years. And today's GOP can be blamed for that.
nah, that is just total BS. if you are going to compare TOTAL subsidy in relation to how much energy was generated, then it should be looked at WRT how long that has been going on. Subsidies for oil/gas/coal has been going on since the 1800s.
Time to stop it.
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so China is sending loads of spies to get our military tech so that they can put us under their thumb. Should we stop Chinese immigrants as well?
You may wish to re-read what I wrote. I said that NEW ICE sales will be destroyed. That means that they will drop a great deal when Model 3 hits the market. That does not mean that it will stop all sales. Nor does it mean that everybody will instantly stop driving ICE vehicles.
However, I would be shocked if ICE sales are not down by 25% before end of 2018. In addition, by that time, all of the major car makers will be screaming bloody murder about how much sales are down and that they need new money from their govs to move to electric (though German car makers are currently being forced by their crimes combined with their gov forcing them).
And if you do not think that M3 will make a splash, then simply watch what happens in the next 10 days.
Seriously, this is smart for Rockefeller's fund, because oil and coal will really plummet in another 5-10 years. Keep in mind that while EVs in 2 years are likely to destroy new ICE vehicle sales, current cars/trucks will be around for a LONG TIME. In addition, oil's greatest and best use was never for energy, but for chemistry. As such, it will never go to zero, but close.
Exxon's value is going to go way down, but oil use will simply continue a slow downward spiral to about 1/3-1/4 of current usage.
I will see your gov lie and raise you more.
nope.
First off, the old plants that are retiring are a fraction of the SIZE and NUMBER. They retire 1 every month OR 2.
Secondly, their load capacity is over 50%. The table shows that 2014 capacity was 907 GW, with production of 3959,000 twh. If you assume that the number for plants was around 850 gw (907 was 2014, not 2013), then you have an average capacity of 52%.
AND only a FEW are ran at 30%. These are the ones in which the gov built at what are now ghost cities. The vast majority of China's coal plants ran at 60% or more. That is also why the Chinese air is SOOOO dirty.
Against solar city? Seriously, China invests far far more into coal plants and mines each year. Heck, China is around 1100-1300 GW of coal plants ( Chinese gov numbers do not agree with what locals claim and what the plants are ). And this is growing at ~52 GW/ yr. Solar will not make a dent in their coal unless they stop building new plants and stop their old ones.
skip the gen 3 1 GW reactors.
We need the gen 4 reactors that can be built in factories, do 100-200 MWe and can be installed in 1-2 years. In addition, they can use nuclear waste, which is the smart thing to do.
no, you are looking at gen III reactors that are economic disasters. We need manufactured gen IV reactors that can be ramped up quickly and safely.
solar and wind can not do the job by themselves. Even if we add geo-thermal (and we should), it will still not be enough. We need to add new nukes, but not the 1GW gen 3 reactors. Instead, we need to add gen IV reactors and burn up the vast majority of the 'waste' that we have. Most importantly, by adding new reactors, these can replace old ones, and go into replacing the majority of coal plants.
Yes, but obviously, yours did not.
and yet, when the top scientists of the anti climate change group, dr. muller, got funding from the kock bros and looked into this, they changed their opinion. Basically, they showed that there can be little doubt that Climate change is occurring and that it is man-made. And yet, you far right wing nut jobs continue to ignore real scientists doing real work and showing it to be true.
So, fools like you can make wild claims, but the smart man says that if this is killing all of us, and if the current solutions are putting all the blame on the west (who all together is doing less than 1/3 of the emissions), should instead push to have ALL nations cutting their emissions TOGETHER.
Oddly, America is the ONLY nation that can force this. Why? Because we import more than all other nations.
Wrong. Adding extra money does nothing. Increasing taxes & spending to fix roads, schools, etc, while making it visible, solves a lot.
I wish that I had read a few of these and had kept my points going. U should be marked down to a troll. Dr Hansen suffers the same issue that Obama does: far right wingers like you call them polarizing for doing their jobs. Neither Obama nor Hansen have been polarizing. It is you far right wing nut jobs that turn it into such because you refuse to simply look at the data and then you claim that they are the problem.
say that china gets a pass. In addition, the far left will continue to fight against the use of nuclear power, even though it could replace coal quickly.
I applaud Dr. Hansen and his work, but hate his followers are just as unscientific as the far right.
At least so far, no Tesla. This id interesting Considering that in 1.5 years they are expected to make a huge impact.
Which is exactly why I continue to believe that America will do nothing to him. We have nothing on him. OTOH, Sweden does and may go after him.
Seriously, it is far more important to know WHERE your food comes from, then if it is GMO.
This is why we should not be giving general amnesty to all illegals. Otherwise, there will be lots of unemployment to pay.
This is their opportunity to get into the game and produce manufacturing equipment. In addition, BD is ideal for the moon and mars.
Depends on whose X-ray it is. If somebody important and shows say cancer, China can use info to put said person in position, with one of own backing em. If person does not have family, but is old, it can be used to find healthy duplicate that then is modified with plastic surgery. Information is power.
Gill, why do you claim that the world was pissed. Much of the govs did not know, and the ones that knew were split due to cold war?
These days Porsche carrera are preferred. Fast and blow up.
Seriously, Bigelow should do this as well. They have a cloth structure, so it be good to see how it can withstand a fire.
We already did. We voted obama in as president. However, if the gop is unwilling to do their jobs, not a problem. The Senate will likely switch to dem control and the next president is also likely Clinton. She will simply put a young liberal in place. In addition, I would not be surprised if 3 more scotus positions open up in the next 4 years, with 1 being Kennedy. As such, scotus will become liberal for 40+ years. And today's GOP can be blamed for that.
nah, that is just total BS. if you are going to compare TOTAL subsidy in relation to how much energy was generated, then it should be looked at WRT how long that has been going on. Subsidies for oil/gas/coal has been going on since the 1800s.
Time to stop it.