While I think that we need to cut back on CO2 (and other pollution such as mercury) emissions, I think that the argument that we would have no food is beyond the pale. The fact is, that there will be plenty of land to grow on. It will need more water, but there are ways to bring that to them. I still like the idea of dumping water into the air when you know that a cold front is coming over the area that you want rain.
Likewise, if we would get past our new obsession about nuke plants, we could have plenty of fresh water for population since 90% is close to salt water.
So, a layer of decking that runs the steam through it would be a bad idea? I am not so certain. It actually might be interesting. In addition, you use salt water on the deck above so that helps to return the ice from fresh water into salt water which helps to keep it from freezing.
Yes, it is. However, SOME ideas have cropped here, been shot down, and then later on turned out to have validity.
IOW, some of those 'crackpots' actually have good ideas.
Oddly, most ppl with good ideas are regularly accused of being crackpots. That is until it is done and ppl see how useful it is.
Russia still has a VERY formidable military. Thank god that we do not have a cold war with them. That is not good for anybody.
Besides, why would you want to engage them? Russia is really not in a cold or hot war with anyone, other than former Soviet blocks and Al Qaeda. Yes, putnin likes to sound scary, but he is simply marketing (only we call it politicking).
Personally, I would like to see USA, Canada, and Greenland build some nuke powered ice-breakers and other ships. It makes little sense to use diesel, esp. since the drive is to have a FULLY electric ship even on weapons.
Wrong. If somebody has a weapon, then they are a soldier. If they do not, then they will be considered a civilian until shown otherwise. The advantage of this is that it will likely be used as a forward drone that moves through enemy troops, even those in superior position.
Contrast this to bombs dropped by drones. They will kill those in and around the blast zone. Yes, they have made this better and better, but the fact is innocents still die. OTH, if a killer cheetah(s) and sit on the edge, ready to run, you can have 1 or more of these run through a pack and kill those that are a threat.
Gee, I don't know why we love it.
Lets see:
1) first private human launcher to space 3 x in a month due to X-Prize.
2) first automated nut and fruit picker developed about 1 year ago, to replace the low costs of imports that use manipulated money and fixed labor costs, rather than succumb to using illegals (which would STILL leave the prices too high) due to X-Prize in California.
3) First none stop crossing over the atlantic via ortiz prize.
And that is just the first set that comes quickly to mind. So, I would say that it works when allowed to.
Now, the real question is, why are naysayers so short of realism as to avoid looking at facts?
You mean the way that we do with naval ships, and power plants? First off, having the nuke engine be designed and built by NASA and put in space as a space tug is not a big deal. And it would be NASA that controls these, not corporations. At least for some time.
Which is why I suggested doing thorium. Plenty of it on the moon and mars as well as on asteroid. And as far as the launch issue goes, we simply take a rocket with a great history and use that. Put the fuel in solid containers and launch it, making sure that it is from a place like Florida.
NERVA. Been there. Done it. Need to bring it back, but using thorium instead.
While It will not serve to launch here (too many idiots here), it can be used for solar system transport of humans and robots, as wells as launches on/off the moon and mars.
First off, he inherited a 3/4 T deficit from W. (the constant.5T / year deficit of W/neo-cons is what cratered our economy in the FIRST place). O cranked it up to 1.2T for the first year due the great depression that we were looking at. Then O did a 1T for the second, while the 3rd year should have been cut, but he did not (which is why I have issues with this last year).
BUT, he is the one that worked with Boehner to do cuts and then cantor came in and gutted it. Then when Cantor did his theatrics of saying that they would cut a deal with the dems, but that O was to be excluded, O simply insisted that if they failed, that automatic cuts happen THIS COMING YEAR. Well, the neo-cons FAILED (yeah, like that is new) and then blamed O for it all.
The fact is, that O has been being gutted by the neo-cons in an attempt to crater him. And THEY are the ones wasting money on building launcher that depend on using manufacturers in their areas wasting 3-5B / year, while screaming about less than 1B/year for a couple of years to get MULTIPLE cheap private space going. No doubt had McCain been in office, private space would have been gutted and the SLS would have been bumped up to 5B/year and still would not be ready until 2024.
As I said, I am not wild about O, but compared to the vampire republicans and the zombies dems, he is at least alive and mostly useful. I really hate the fact that he is pushing for cuts in our nuke warheads as well as that insane cap/trade, not dealing effectively with our lack of nuclear power (we should spend money on thorium power), and the issues with China.
However, even romney has said that the economy is MUCH better off then it was 4 years ago, which is a good sign.
The republicans have continued to gut over and over the private space. In addition, they were the ones that gutted NASA back in the late 90's and stopping them from doing the original COTS program that was suggested in 1994. Worse, they have continued to fight against funding for private space while pushing multiple (3-5 Billion PER YEAR) to their key programs such as Constellation and now the god foresaken SLS.
yes, some dems have joined these dark creatures of the night, but the neo-cons that control the republican party are far more interested in helping themselves and their friends rather than the nation. Even now, I am fully aware that MY representative, Mark Coffman, takes money from a company that he KNOWS is owned by the Chinese gov. The fuck who screams patriotism would rather take money from China than help America. GD pricks.
Sadly, other than O, the dems are absolutely USELESS. They have no sense of loyalty to either nation or party. Instead, they are bunch of fuck-ups. The only reason why they do not sux worse then the neo-cons is that the neo-cons are pretty much committing treason against the nation and have been actively working to destroy unions, etc. IOW, they consider it a higher priority to destroy unions (which they could have self-destructed on their own) then to help the nation.
We need 2 answers: a third party of social moderate/fiscal conservative (nixon was the last time that a republican was a fiscal conservative), and RootStrikers to get amendments on the constitution. We need to kill off all of the dark creatures of the night within the republicans party (or simply stake them all), and re-bury the zombies in the dem party, while creating a new party.
Think the moon AND Mars. You will need heat to survive unless you have a perfect insulation. And with all of the radiation, you have little choice but to surround yourself with some moderator that will happily give off heat. In addition, You will have loses coming and going. The list goes on and on. So, yeah, you will need it.
In addition, on mars, if we send ppl to colonize it, we will likely engineer plants to withstand the low pressures on the mars. By doing that, we can then simply put it under a cover and then apply heat. Issue solved.
But what I really like about thorium reactors is all of the abilities to do chemical/industrial actions. That high temp of 800C enables a LARGE number of things that we will need off world. In fact, to be honest, we could use it here. A single small reactor would be capable of running a refinery, or a smelter, or lithium battery processing (though a bit of that needs to run at 1200C, which is simple enough to add that little bit of heat).
Basically, 800C safe reactor on the ground is perhaps one of the best things to have for any extra-terrestrial trip.
Use a thorium reactor. Ability to have high temps (800C) for chemical/industrial reactions, minimal shielding (just bury it), and you need heat for living with anyways. Easy to ship Thorium (few ppl will scream about sending it up in a rocket), and very efficient in terms of amount of heat generated.
What is the input for it? One item that will probably be 'manufactured' will be meat, but plants themselves can not be done. So even algae will need light.
The DOD is looking at some thorium reactors. By having small ones (10 MWe) they can bring these in via chopper, put them in a hole, and then provide power for bases, esp. FOB. These would then be easy to destroy if being overrun. Now, what is the advantage of this for the moon and mars? Ppl do not get too upset about thorium being sent up to space. The amount of uranium that would be needed to power it would be minimum. And one of the nice advantages is that the thorium reactor in sodium would have little to no chance of water in either locations. In addition, the 800C can be used not just to provide power, but also a number of chemical reactions and industrial operations (i.e. metal smelting for casting purposes). In addition, it provides the heat for the base without needing any real shielding.
What they should be doing is random monitoring of packets looking for malware coming across. Once they locate one of the systems as having malware, they could simply give the PC a local address and re-direct all output to a master system that will then notify the system on HTTP request that it is infected.
By taking such an action, they simply bump off infected systems until they clean it up, or call the ISP's help desk and prove that it is NOT malware.
By the same token, if an ISP notices that a system is coming from an ISP that has an infected system, they might want to say that once a certain percentage of systems are infected that they will cut off ALL of their systems. This would actually pressure ISPs to clean up.
He released the minimum. OTOH, since we had such corruption under Nixon esp. Agnew, all candidates starting with George Romney, have released 10-20 years back, EXCEPT for John McCain and now Mitt.
I suspect that it will not matter. It is obvious that the dems have had access to these and KNOW that something incriminating is in them.
I think that these will appear in Europe, Mexican, or other press that will not censor it around late sept time frame.
Normally, I am opposed to doing the moon as a 'test-bed' for mars. They are totally different areas. Small atmosphere vs. next to none. Likewise, the moon has some of the wildest temp extremes going in the solar system. So, normally, the moon is NOT a good testbed. But caves are a different issue. Deep caves on the moon will have a much higher and more constant temperature due to the moderation of the ground. As such, it makes good sense to start this on the moon first. This will allow communication, temperature and even chemical analysis to be tested before sending it out.
Interestingly, this approach might even allow for multiple robots to go in a cave. It would be useful to have multiple walkers with different capabilities running around in one. It would also be nice to be able to seal one and see what happens.
Several groups are working on that. In fact, one of them is here in Colorado. But, I am not certain that they will get the prices down low. IIRC, they are using Algae, which is just not efficient.
Joule's real strength is that they are using mostly cyanobacteria. As such, it can be fed crap, and still makes use of the sun. What I love about it is that it gives us diesel or ethanol as a waste product. Ethanol is a mistake since it is harder to pull from water. But the diesel will simply float to the surface, which makes a simple skimming operation trivial. Then you run it through a very simple and cheap cleaning operation.
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While I think that we need to cut back on CO2 (and other pollution such as mercury) emissions, I think that the argument that we would have no food is beyond the pale. The fact is, that there will be plenty of land to grow on. It will need more water, but there are ways to bring that to them. I still like the idea of dumping water into the air when you know that a cold front is coming over the area that you want rain.
Likewise, if we would get past our new obsession about nuke plants, we could have plenty of fresh water for population since 90% is close to salt water.
So, a layer of decking that runs the steam through it would be a bad idea? I am not so certain. It actually might be interesting. In addition, you use salt water on the deck above so that helps to return the ice from fresh water into salt water which helps to keep it from freezing.
Yes, it is. However, SOME ideas have cropped here, been shot down, and then later on turned out to have validity.
IOW, some of those 'crackpots' actually have good ideas.
Oddly, most ppl with good ideas are regularly accused of being crackpots. That is until it is done and ppl see how useful it is.
No you would not.
Russia still has a VERY formidable military. Thank god that we do not have a cold war with them. That is not good for anybody.
Besides, why would you want to engage them? Russia is really not in a cold or hot war with anyone, other than former Soviet blocks and Al Qaeda. Yes, putnin likes to sound scary, but he is simply marketing (only we call it politicking).
Personally, I would like to see USA, Canada, and Greenland build some nuke powered ice-breakers and other ships. It makes little sense to use diesel, esp. since the drive is to have a FULLY electric ship even on weapons.
Face? Heck no. Wrong side of the body.
Actually, if you add a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, they are pretty good.
Otherwise, I agree with you.
Wrong. If somebody has a weapon, then they are a soldier. If they do not, then they will be considered a civilian until shown otherwise. The advantage of this is that it will likely be used as a forward drone that moves through enemy troops, even those in superior position.
Contrast this to bombs dropped by drones. They will kill those in and around the blast zone. Yes, they have made this better and better, but the fact is innocents still die. OTH, if a killer cheetah(s) and sit on the edge, ready to run, you can have 1 or more of these run through a pack and kill those that are a threat.
Nobel prize comes quickly to mind.
However, let me help you.
And that leads to all sorts of cool things.
Oh, here is some more for you.
There now, was that so hard?
Even a new one that comes to mind is the Google lunar prize.
Why do unrealistic ppl have such pessimism when you ignore so many facts?
Gee, I don't know why we love it.
Lets see:
1) first private human launcher to space 3 x in a month due to X-Prize.
2) first automated nut and fruit picker developed about 1 year ago, to replace the low costs of imports that use manipulated money and fixed labor costs, rather than succumb to using illegals (which would STILL leave the prices too high) due to X-Prize in California.
3) First none stop crossing over the atlantic via ortiz prize.
And that is just the first set that comes quickly to mind. So, I would say that it works when allowed to.
Now, the real question is, why are naysayers so short of realism as to avoid looking at facts?
Yeah, it is amazing what X-Prizes can do for you.
In the mean time, I will fill my half full glass with beer, while you are busy crying that your glass is half empty.
You mean the way that we do with naval ships, and power plants? First off, having the nuke engine be designed and built by NASA and put in space as a space tug is not a big deal. And it would be NASA that controls these, not corporations. At least for some time.
Which is why I suggested doing thorium. Plenty of it on the moon and mars as well as on asteroid. And as far as the launch issue goes, we simply take a rocket with a great history and use that. Put the fuel in solid containers and launch it, making sure that it is from a place like Florida.
NERVA. Been there. Done it. Need to bring it back, but using thorium instead.
While It will not serve to launch here (too many idiots here), it can be used for solar system transport of humans and robots, as wells as launches on/off the moon and mars.
First off, he inherited a 3/4 T deficit from W. (the constant .5T / year deficit of W/neo-cons is what cratered our economy in the FIRST place). O cranked it up to 1.2T for the first year due the great depression that we were looking at. Then O did a 1T for the second, while the 3rd year should have been cut, but he did not (which is why I have issues with this last year).
BUT, he is the one that worked with Boehner to do cuts and then cantor came in and gutted it. Then when Cantor did his theatrics of saying that they would cut a deal with the dems, but that O was to be excluded, O simply insisted that if they failed, that automatic cuts happen THIS COMING YEAR. Well, the neo-cons FAILED (yeah, like that is new) and then blamed O for it all.
The fact is, that O has been being gutted by the neo-cons in an attempt to crater him. And THEY are the ones wasting money on building launcher that depend on using manufacturers in their areas wasting 3-5B / year, while screaming about less than 1B/year for a couple of years to get MULTIPLE cheap private space going. No doubt had McCain been in office, private space would have been gutted and the SLS would have been bumped up to 5B/year and still would not be ready until 2024.
As I said, I am not wild about O, but compared to the vampire republicans and the zombies dems, he is at least alive and mostly useful. I really hate the fact that he is pushing for cuts in our nuke warheads as well as that insane cap/trade, not dealing effectively with our lack of nuclear power (we should spend money on thorium power), and the issues with China.
However, even romney has said that the economy is MUCH better off then it was 4 years ago, which is a good sign.
The republicans have continued to gut over and over the private space. In addition, they were the ones that gutted NASA back in the late 90's and stopping them from doing the original COTS program that was suggested in 1994. Worse, they have continued to fight against funding for private space while pushing multiple (3-5 Billion PER YEAR) to their key programs such as Constellation and now the god foresaken SLS.
yes, some dems have joined these dark creatures of the night, but the neo-cons that control the republican party are far more interested in helping themselves and their friends rather than the nation. Even now, I am fully aware that MY representative, Mark Coffman, takes money from a company that he KNOWS is owned by the Chinese gov. The fuck who screams patriotism would rather take money from China than help America. GD pricks.
Sadly, other than O, the dems are absolutely USELESS. They have no sense of loyalty to either nation or party. Instead, they are bunch of fuck-ups. The only reason why they do not sux worse then the neo-cons is that the neo-cons are pretty much committing treason against the nation and have been actively working to destroy unions, etc. IOW, they consider it a higher priority to destroy unions (which they could have self-destructed on their own) then to help the nation.
We need 2 answers: a third party of social moderate/fiscal conservative (nixon was the last time that a republican was a fiscal conservative), and RootStrikers to get amendments on the constitution. We need to kill off all of the dark creatures of the night within the republicans party (or simply stake them all), and re-bury the zombies in the dem party, while creating a new party.
Think the moon AND Mars. You will need heat to survive unless you have a perfect insulation. And with all of the radiation, you have little choice but to surround yourself with some moderator that will happily give off heat. In addition, You will have loses coming and going. The list goes on and on. So, yeah, you will need it.
In addition, on mars, if we send ppl to colonize it, we will likely engineer plants to withstand the low pressures on the mars. By doing that, we can then simply put it under a cover and then apply heat. Issue solved.
But what I really like about thorium reactors is all of the abilities to do chemical/industrial actions. That high temp of 800C enables a LARGE number of things that we will need off world. In fact, to be honest, we could use it here. A single small reactor would be capable of running a refinery, or a smelter, or lithium battery processing (though a bit of that needs to run at 1200C, which is simple enough to add that little bit of heat).
Basically, 800C safe reactor on the ground is perhaps one of the best things to have for any extra-terrestrial trip.
Use a thorium reactor. Ability to have high temps (800C) for chemical/industrial reactions, minimal shielding (just bury it), and you need heat for living with anyways. Easy to ship Thorium (few ppl will scream about sending it up in a rocket), and very efficient in terms of amount of heat generated.
What is the input for it? One item that will probably be 'manufactured' will be meat, but plants themselves can not be done. So even algae will need light.
The DOD is looking at some thorium reactors. By having small ones (10 MWe) they can bring these in via chopper, put them in a hole, and then provide power for bases, esp. FOB. These would then be easy to destroy if being overrun. Now, what is the advantage of this for the moon and mars? Ppl do not get too upset about thorium being sent up to space. The amount of uranium that would be needed to power it would be minimum. And one of the nice advantages is that the thorium reactor in sodium would have little to no chance of water in either locations. In addition, the 800C can be used not just to provide power, but also a number of chemical reactions and industrial operations (i.e. metal smelting for casting purposes). In addition, it provides the heat for the base without needing any real shielding.
What they should be doing is random monitoring of packets looking for malware coming across. Once they locate one of the systems as having malware, they could simply give the PC a local address and re-direct all output to a master system that will then notify the system on HTTP request that it is infected.
By taking such an action, they simply bump off infected systems until they clean it up, or call the ISP's help desk and prove that it is NOT malware.
By the same token, if an ISP notices that a system is coming from an ISP that has an infected system, they might want to say that once a certain percentage of systems are infected that they will cut off ALL of their systems. This would actually pressure ISPs to clean up.
He released the minimum. OTOH, since we had such corruption under Nixon esp. Agnew, all candidates starting with George Romney, have released 10-20 years back, EXCEPT for John McCain and now Mitt.
I suspect that it will not matter.
It is obvious that the dems have had access to these and KNOW that something incriminating is in them.
I think that these will appear in Europe, Mexican, or other press that will not censor it around late sept time frame.
romney to release his tax forms. Then we can find out who is patriotic and who is not.
I wonder if Mars was subjected to more radiation if its core would spin more?
Normally, I am opposed to doing the moon as a 'test-bed' for mars. They are totally different areas. Small atmosphere vs. next to none. Likewise, the moon has some of the wildest temp extremes going in the solar system. So, normally, the moon is NOT a good testbed. But caves are a different issue. Deep caves on the moon will have a much higher and more constant temperature due to the moderation of the ground. As such, it makes good sense to start this on the moon first. This will allow communication, temperature and even chemical analysis to be tested before sending it out.
Interestingly, this approach might even allow for multiple robots to go in a cave. It would be useful to have multiple walkers with different capabilities running around in one. It would also be nice to be able to seal one and see what happens.
Several groups are working on that. In fact, one of them is here in Colorado. But, I am not certain that they will get the prices down low. IIRC, they are using Algae, which is just not efficient.
Joule's real strength is that they are using mostly cyanobacteria. As such, it can be fed crap, and still makes use of the sun. What I love about it is that it gives us diesel or ethanol as a waste product. Ethanol is a mistake since it is harder to pull from water. But the diesel will simply float to the surface, which makes a simple skimming operation trivial. Then you run it through a very simple and cheap cleaning operation.