The WTO actually allows and even ENCOURAGES tariffs once you have more than 10% trade imbalance. By putting on tariffs on Chinese goods, then it encourages companies to change their habits. Ideally, we do this at the same time that we drop taxes on local manufacturing to 0%, with it increasing 5% a year to 25%. IOW, give a 5 year discount,
None that I am allowed to give you. The reason is that China hides that information (just like they do their CO2; when OCO2 goes up, the world is going to be SHOCKED). Molycorp has no intention of releasing this information yet. They will do so at WTO so that China is surprised.
no. because since WWII, japan has worked hard to avoid war. If they get into a war, it will be with China. USA WILL Protect them. It will be a quick nuke exchange.
The whole concept of WTO is that you have a FREE AND FAIR MARKET place. When China signed up with WTO, they were required to make certain that all goods, INCLUDING RESOURCES, are available to ALL. This is more true since China used illegal means to acquire their monopoly. Considering that China claims that they are doing this for the environment, yet, they have actually INCREASED mining of it, it is a certainty that WTO is going to say that China MUST allow it on the open market.
China has a long history of cheating at everything that they do. This is almost certainly a shot over the bow. My guess is that CHina will not release the goods, so the west will use this as a means to putting up massive tariffs against Chinese goods.
Sorry, taco, but you have ZERO clue of what you are talking about this. Not only is california pass re-opened, but molycorp is working hard to bring back magnet manufacturing. They just bought a canadian company to grab some of the market that China stole by dumping on the market and then once they owned it, restricting exports ILLEGALLY.
This is not about posturing. In fact, I am guessing that it was EU and Japan that dragged us into this. Though I am also guessing that more will pop up. In particular, I suspect that we will see some unified action against China.
USA had the number 1 production and exporting. That is, until reagan convinced the company to share the tech with China. Once they did, then China dumped REE on the global markets esp. on America. Once we shut down California mountain pass, then China suddenly got interested in their environment. The problem though, is that China is producing more REE than EVER before. It is just that they do not export it.
Thankfully, a company is ramping up with this. Molycorp. I am actually surprised that USA/EU/Japan are gripping over this. However, my guess is that they are prepping to run up tariffs against China unless China starts acting honest.
Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. should all stop indexing things from Germany right away. If they ALL stop, that might make Germany and other nations re-think things through.
Go ask for docs on NSA and MS partnership, or NSA and Apple, or NSA and Yahoo, or NSA and even Bull. You will find that many companies, even those not based here have something going on.
Now, go ask Apple, MS and Yahoo there involvement with China. If you get an honest answer, you would be shocked and PISSED.
I have bought those before. They last less than 1 year. Absolutely WORTHLESS. The reason is that they are made in China with Chinese parts with Chinese engineering. The LEDs are not desgined to last. However, that is not the real issue. HEAT is the issue. Everything says that LEDs do not emit heat and they are right. BUT, leds do not run on 120 VAC (or 240 VAC, etc). So, inside each bulb, is a voltage and type converter. The Chinese designs are cheap because they were built cheap. The better ones have a fan inside, but those give out. And when they do, the bulb can catch fire.
Instead, the bulb that you want, is the SWITCH bulb. It is coming shortly, but what they do is immerse the electronics in fluid and then allow passive heat flow. Efficient.
Oh, I forgot. It appears possible- that China has some 3000 nuke missiles, that they have not admited to.
Seriously, China is not to be taken lightly. The above is probably why they are so edgy about our spying on them. USSR never was that edgy. Nor were we. In fact, we WANTED them to know roughly what we had, just not how to do it.
USSR was the same way.
China does not want us to know what they are up to. That is the actions of a nation that is planning a surprise attack.
Yes, they have exactly one Aircraft carrier. HOWEVER, they have 4 keels laid already. In addition, it is though that the last one is nuclear powered. Add to that some 20 boomers and 15 attack subs, with 1-2 new booms/1-2 new attack subs going to sea EACH YEAR, well, I doubt that you will consider them piss poor in about 5 years.
What else you are missing is that their space program is part of their military. All of this man flight and their new space station is actually a military base.
While I point the fingers at all of those neo-cons (and a dem or two), the fact is, that the SLS is actually designed by Boeing, Ball, etc. IOW, all of the folks involved in the shuttle. Now few think about this, or admit it, but you have businesses telling our pols how to vote.
That is the very definition of fascism. I mean we all scream about it, but there is no better example of fascism in effect here in America, then the SLS.
Really? Please show us one nation that launches into space that has a 100% gov. operation that does their own R&D and building of all of their launch systems?
And it has to be cheaper than SpaceX is to launch.
If you do not have an example, of that, well,.....
We need off this rock. We need to put ppl around. We need to find out what is on the moon and mars. No where, did I suggest that space was about bringing things back. The ability to launch humans CHEAPLY, put up stations in orbit, put colonies on the moon or mars, will lead to other nations buying the services. And as prices drop, at some point, we WILL bring back various things.
Bigelow Aerospace has more than 12 nations that want to use their private LEO based space station. Nations like Sweden, Canada, Australia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc. How many of them can afford to put up a cheap human launch system within 5 years, let alone a space station? How many of them want to go to the moon like US will do via private space within 9 years (assuming that the wankers in CONgress stop what they are doing)? All of these nations want to put astronauts in space. They can not afford to build their own launch systems, let alone space stations in 10 years, let alone 4. As it is, SpaceX will be able to launch humans for 20 million / seat in 4 years, if we can stop idiots like Coffman, hatch, Hutchinson, Wolfe, Shelby, and nelson. In each of those cases, these politicans are putting their pocket ahead of the nation's needs. And it is PURE politics that is interfering, not poor economics.
As to budgets, if you prefer, we can become like China. China's space program is part of their military. The new space station that they have up there will not be allowing any none chinese up there (though I would not be surprised to see North Koreans, Iranians, or even Venezuelans go up there). It is considered a base by them. Why? Because their space program is 100% military.
And NOTHING about space is PURE research. It is mostly about economics and national pride.
Sending water or any easily mined item from the moon to LEO is MUCH MUCH cheaper then sending it from anyplace on earth to LEO.
MUCH cheaper, once the initial investment. That is exactly why there are more than 3 companies that being put together to go to the moon to do just that.
The reason is the moon is ~1/6 G.
In fact, we may actually find that getting water from CERES (an asteroid further out than Mars) is MUCH MUCH cheaper than the moon. Why? Because it is 1/5 G of the moon. IOW, 1/22 G of the earth. Getting anything into LEO is all about the ability to get anything into space. As to Ceres, an inexpensive mass driver can actually break off ice and throw it at earth. Even on the moon, we have the ability to launch cargo cheaply, after the initial investment.
No where did I suggest that mars to earth is profitable. The only possible thing that can be transported from Mars to Earth would be something that is only found on mars and could not be produced here. The reason? 1/3 G.
Finally, exploration is wonderful. BUT, it has to be balanced. We need to get off this fucking rock. Likewise, if we are going to do exploration, we need CHEAP access to space. How do you get that? You have rockets launch once a week or even once a day. Then you have CHEAP access. For that, you want business and other reasons to go to space. We do not need the GD SLS. We need cheap rockets like F9, F Heavy, and even FXX.
Not really. With out fast transport and no good ways to block nearly all radiation, an outbound trip will be 2/3 of a year. But a RETURN trip will be several years. As such, a return trip vastly increases the amount of radiation that a person gets and shortens a life by 10-20 years. OTOH, if you send ppl on what they expect to be a one-way mission and lets say that in 10 years, we finally start NERVA drives. At that point, it is feasible to do a several month trip back. Then these ppl can be offered a trip back, IFF they want it. My belief is that anybody that travels to mars and is there for minimum of 5-10 years, will want to stay there and build out their legacy. IOW, they will want to be settlers.
Nope. Nations will back this just to be part of it. My guess is that the first team will include about 6 ppl on a one-way mission with 3 to 6 nations being represented.
That is not certain. If NASA is allowed to get private space going, then it is a certainty that by 2020, that NASA via private space will be on the moon. And likewise, within 5 years later, private space will go to Mars. Why? Profits. By building multiple private space stations in orbit, multiple nations will want to use them. From there, if companies like SpaceX, ULA, Bigelow will want to get to the moon. Why again? Profits. They KNOW that nations will pay much more to go to the moon and explore. So will other companies. The ability to mine for water and send it back to the ISS and private space stations much cheaper than from earth would be a big deal. Likewise, the ability to mine Uranium, breed it, and then fuel rocket engines with it to go to Mars will be a strong demand.
America DOES have a problem. We have to get past politicians like Hatch, Coffman, Hutchinson, Shelby, Wolfe, Nelson, etc., but I know that even Coffman is already being called on his destructive actions against NASA. The others will be looked at as well.
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The WTO actually allows and even ENCOURAGES tariffs once you have more than 10% trade imbalance. By putting on tariffs on Chinese goods, then it encourages companies to change their habits. Ideally, we do this at the same time that we drop taxes on local manufacturing to 0%, with it increasing 5% a year to 25%. IOW, give a 5 year discount,
if 500 rockets are all incoming on a ship, then the ship is sunk no matter the defense system.
None that I am allowed to give you. The reason is that China hides that information (just like they do their CO2; when OCO2 goes up, the world is going to be SHOCKED). Molycorp has no intention of releasing this information yet. They will do so at WTO so that China is surprised.
no. because since WWII, japan has worked hard to avoid war. If they get into a war, it will be with China. USA WILL Protect them. It will be a quick nuke exchange.
The whole concept of WTO is that you have a FREE AND FAIR MARKET place. When China signed up with WTO, they were required to make certain that all goods, INCLUDING RESOURCES, are available to ALL. This is more true since China used illegal means to acquire their monopoly. Considering that China claims that they are doing this for the environment, yet, they have actually INCREASED mining of it, it is a certainty that WTO is going to say that China MUST allow it on the open market.
China has a long history of cheating at everything that they do. This is almost certainly a shot over the bow. My guess is that CHina will not release the goods, so the west will use this as a means to putting up massive tariffs against Chinese goods.
Yes, but this time, it is likely that they would be backed by USA, Canada, and EU.
However, it does not matter. Any war that Japan gets in, will not be sustained. It will be over in under a day.
And yet, China is mining more than what they did 5 years ago. IOW, they lied.
Sorry, taco, but you have ZERO clue of what you are talking about this. Not only is california pass re-opened, but molycorp is working hard to bring back magnet manufacturing. They just bought a canadian company to grab some of the market that China stole by dumping on the market and then once they owned it, restricting exports ILLEGALLY.
This is not about posturing. In fact, I am guessing that it was EU and Japan that dragged us into this. Though I am also guessing that more will pop up. In particular, I suspect that we will see some unified action against China.
USA had the number 1 production and exporting. That is, until reagan convinced the company to share the tech with China. Once they did, then China dumped REE on the global markets esp. on America. Once we shut down California mountain pass, then China suddenly got interested in their environment. The problem though, is that China is producing more REE than EVER before. It is just that they do not export it.
Thankfully, a company is ramping up with this. Molycorp. I am actually surprised that USA/EU/Japan are gripping over this. However, my guess is that they are prepping to run up tariffs against China unless China starts acting honest.
Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. should all stop indexing things from Germany right away. If they ALL stop, that might make Germany and other nations re-think things through.
Go ask for docs on NSA and MS partnership, or NSA and Apple, or NSA and Yahoo, or NSA and even Bull. You will find that many companies, even those not based here have something going on.
Now, go ask Apple, MS and Yahoo there involvement with China. If you get an honest answer, you would be shocked and PISSED.
That is coming VERY soon. Like less than 6 months.
I have bought those before. They last less than 1 year. Absolutely WORTHLESS. The reason is that they are made in China with Chinese parts with Chinese engineering. The LEDs are not desgined to last. However, that is not the real issue. HEAT is the issue. Everything says that LEDs do not emit heat and they are right. BUT, leds do not run on 120 VAC (or 240 VAC, etc). So, inside each bulb, is a voltage and type converter. The Chinese designs are cheap because they were built cheap. The better ones have a fan inside, but those give out. And when they do, the bulb can catch fire.
Instead, the bulb that you want, is the SWITCH bulb. It is coming shortly, but what they do is immerse the electronics in fluid and then allow passive heat flow. Efficient.
Kind of like saying that women that are raped are stupid for having been in their homes at the time. Right?
Hence the reason why the USN is hard at work on railguns and lasers. Even the railgun could be used against IDed water threats.
Oh, I forgot. It appears possible- that China has some 3000 nuke missiles, that they have not admited to.
Seriously, China is not to be taken lightly. The above is probably why they are so edgy about our spying on them. USSR never was that edgy. Nor were we. In fact, we WANTED them to know roughly what we had, just not how to do it. USSR was the same way.
China does not want us to know what they are up to. That is the actions of a nation that is planning a surprise attack.
Yes, they have exactly one Aircraft carrier. HOWEVER, they have 4 keels laid already. In addition, it is though that the last one is nuclear powered. Add to that some 20 boomers and 15 attack subs, with 1-2 new booms/1-2 new attack subs going to sea EACH YEAR, well, I doubt that you will consider them piss poor in about 5 years.
What else you are missing is that their space program is part of their military. All of this man flight and their new space station is actually a military base.
Then add to that the fact that they spend more of their GDP on military than does even America and that was 5 years ago. Since that time, the American DOD budget has been steady or dropped, while China's has increased 5-10% EACH year.
Quite honestly, you should consider a bit of humility.
While I point the fingers at all of those neo-cons (and a dem or two), the fact is, that the SLS is actually designed by Boeing, Ball, etc. IOW, all of the folks involved in the shuttle. Now few think about this, or admit it, but you have businesses telling our pols how to vote.
That is the very definition of fascism. I mean we all scream about it, but there is no better example of fascism in effect here in America, then the SLS.
Really? Please show us one nation that launches into space that has a 100% gov. operation that does their own R&D and building of all of their launch systems? And it has to be cheaper than SpaceX is to launch.
.....
If you do not have an example, of that, well,
We need off this rock. We need to put ppl around. We need to find out what is on the moon and mars. No where, did I suggest that space was about bringing things back. The ability to launch humans CHEAPLY, put up stations in orbit, put colonies on the moon or mars, will lead to other nations buying the services. And as prices drop, at some point, we WILL bring back various things.
Bigelow Aerospace has more than 12 nations that want to use their private LEO based space station. Nations like Sweden, Canada, Australia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc. How many of them can afford to put up a cheap human launch system within 5 years, let alone a space station? How many of them want to go to the moon like US will do via private space within 9 years (assuming that the wankers in CONgress stop what they are doing)? All of these nations want to put astronauts in space. They can not afford to build their own launch systems, let alone space stations in 10 years, let alone 4. As it is, SpaceX will be able to launch humans for 20 million / seat in 4 years, if we can stop idiots like Coffman, hatch, Hutchinson, Wolfe, Shelby, and nelson. In each of those cases, these politicans are putting their pocket ahead of the nation's needs. And it is PURE politics that is interfering, not poor economics.
As to budgets, if you prefer, we can become like China. China's space program is part of their military. The new space station that they have up there will not be allowing any none chinese up there (though I would not be surprised to see North Koreans, Iranians, or even Venezuelans go up there). It is considered a base by them. Why? Because their space program is 100% military.
And NOTHING about space is PURE research. It is mostly about economics and national pride.
Sending water or any easily mined item from the moon to LEO is MUCH MUCH cheaper then sending it from anyplace on earth to LEO.
MUCH cheaper, once the initial investment. That is exactly why there are more than 3 companies that being put together to go to the moon to do just that.
The reason is the moon is ~1/6 G.
In fact, we may actually find that getting water from CERES (an asteroid further out than Mars) is MUCH MUCH cheaper than the moon. Why? Because it is 1/5 G of the moon. IOW, 1/22 G of the earth. Getting anything into LEO is all about the ability to get anything into space. As to Ceres, an inexpensive mass driver can actually break off ice and throw it at earth. Even on the moon, we have the ability to launch cargo cheaply, after the initial investment.
No where did I suggest that mars to earth is profitable. The only possible thing that can be transported from Mars to Earth would be something that is only found on mars and could not be produced here. The reason? 1/3 G.
Finally, exploration is wonderful. BUT, it has to be balanced. We need to get off this fucking rock. Likewise, if we are going to do exploration, we need CHEAP access to space. How do you get that? You have rockets launch once a week or even once a day. Then you have CHEAP access. For that, you want business and other reasons to go to space. We do not need the GD SLS. We need cheap rockets like F9, F Heavy, and even FXX.
Not really. With out fast transport and no good ways to block nearly all radiation, an outbound trip will be 2/3 of a year. But a RETURN trip will be several years. As such, a return trip vastly increases the amount of radiation that a person gets and shortens a life by 10-20 years. OTOH, if you send ppl on what they expect to be a one-way mission and lets say that in 10 years, we finally start NERVA drives. At that point, it is feasible to do a several month trip back. Then these ppl can be offered a trip back, IFF they want it. My belief is that anybody that travels to mars and is there for minimum of 5-10 years, will want to stay there and build out their legacy. IOW, they will want to be settlers.
Nope. Nations will back this just to be part of it. My guess is that the first team will include about 6 ppl on a one-way mission with 3 to 6 nations being represented.
That is not certain. If NASA is allowed to get private space going, then it is a certainty that by 2020, that NASA via private space will be on the moon. And likewise, within 5 years later, private space will go to Mars. Why? Profits. By building multiple private space stations in orbit, multiple nations will want to use them. From there, if companies like SpaceX, ULA, Bigelow will want to get to the moon. Why again? Profits. They KNOW that nations will pay much more to go to the moon and explore. So will other companies. The ability to mine for water and send it back to the ISS and private space stations much cheaper than from earth would be a big deal. Likewise, the ability to mine Uranium, breed it, and then fuel rocket engines with it to go to Mars will be a strong demand.
America DOES have a problem. We have to get past politicians like Hatch, Coffman, Hutchinson, Shelby, Wolfe, Nelson, etc., but I know that even Coffman is already being called on his destructive actions against NASA. The others will be looked at as well.