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Chinese Spies Used Fake Facebook Profile To Friend NATO Officials

An anonymous reader writes "Late last year, senior British military officers, Defense Ministry officials, and other government officials were tricked into becoming Facebook friends with someone masquerading as United States Navy admiral James Stavridis. By doing so, they exposed their own personal information (such as private e-mail addresses, phone numbers, pictures, the names of family members, and possibly even the details of their movements), to unknown hackers."

117 comments

  1. ASL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    oh hai, asl?

    1. Re:ASL? by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Atlantic Fleet/F&M/200+

  2. Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who knew that if you weren't friends with someone, they couldn't see your data. Hmm. Seriously though. Senior NATO officials have Facebook pages! Dumb! Their private information is on those Facebook pages? Dumber...

    1. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who knew that if you weren't friends with someone, they couldn't see your data. Hmm. Seriously though. Senior NATO officials have Facebook pages! Dumb! Their private information is on those Facebook pages? Dumber...

      Ah, no, Mr. Johnson happens to have a Facebook page. Mr. Johnson also happens to be married to Mrs. Johnson, and has two children and a dog. Mr. Johnson also happens to live in XYZ, America. Mr. Johnson also happens to have an email address, yes. And ALL of this information is probably public record and can be sourced from MANY different locations online anyway, so it's hardly "private information".

      The fact that Mr. Johnson also happens to be a "Senior NATO official" isn't a sign of being dumb or dumber, unless it explicitly is against Government regulation, and since Facebook has pretty much always been approved for use by Government employees, I seriously doubt it's against policy to have an account while serving.

      The only thing that would likely be an issue for OPSEC for certain personnel performing certain duties would be record of movement to develop pattern analysis. Now, if you're broadcasting that information like the average 13-year old girl (i.e. every 47 seconds), then yes, that is being dumb regardless of your job. If that's an issue, might as well ban Twitter and Facebook for damn near every Government employee who holds a security clearance.

    2. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by peragrin · · Score: 3, Informative

      The trick does he seperate work from personal. The current trend in OS's is to combine everything into one. See windows 8, iOS, andriod etc.

      So if you can hack one you have easy access to another. Also realize youhack a personal network. Then wait for a secure machine to join it( NATO laptop) and hack it, or at least monitor the VPN connection.

      You use ones personal life to inflintrate secure work networks.

      It is why i dont use facebook, etc.

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    3. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      NATO guide to Facebook:

      Using Facebook for personal use is perfectly acceptable, however do not use the system from work or make work related updates.

      Good status update: On my way home, looking forward to a nice home-cooked dinner.
      Bad status update: Just got out of a long meeting, looks like Spain is going to have some trade difficulties soon.

    4. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by alcmaeon · · Score: 1

      Remember, you need to pay trillions of dollars in taxes for defense, so the idiots we put in charge of defense can friend enemy spies on Facebook.

    5. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by TheLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And even if you are friends with someone it doesn't mean they can see your data.

      At one point of time Facebook in the "confirm friend request" step let you add friends straight to a friend list of your choice. You could lock down that friend list really tight, so that they couldn't see much, while you _might_ be able to see their data (and thus decide whether "Spongebob" is really someone you know). Doesn't seem possible now. You have to add them as friend first then move them to the restricted list. So there's a window of opportunity for them to get the data out. If I'm wrong about this do tell me how to do it.

      But no matter what privacy "controls" and "promises" Facebook provides, Facebook can see all the data and actions, so NATO officials shouldn't be exposing confidential data and actions to FB. Especially since some of that data may be passed to people outside the USA whether by apps/partners or by people who are paid to moderate stuff: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/9118778/The-dark-side-of-Facebook.html

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    6. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Somehow I don't think the Senior NATO officials are OS-based...

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    7. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by PenquinCoder · · Score: 2

      You don't know how social engineering works, do you?? Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to access the internet; you'll probably sleep better at night.

    8. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by fedos · · Score: 1

      "Going to Beijing again. looooooollll!!1"

    9. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Good status update: On my way home, looking forward to a nice home-cooked dinner.
      Bad status update: Just got out of a long meeting, looks like Spain is going to have some trade difficulties soon.

      They're both bad status updates. Information regarding the length of the meeting is still being leaked regardless of whether or not the meeting is explicitly mentioned.

      If you're "on your way home" at 3 in the mornig, odds are somebody is going to have some trade difficulties soon. (An adversary can draw similar conclusions - namely, that somebody isn't about to have trade difficulties - if that status report is timestamped 5:01 pm.)

    10. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Dr+Fro · · Score: 2

      I heard in my security class that during Gulf War I, some reporters correlated major strikes with the number of pizzas being ordered out late at night.

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    11. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Sir_Sri · · Score: 1

      Actually senior officials having facebook pages really doesn't matter. Once you get up high enough it's pretty hard to keep hidden who or what you are in peacetime. It's simply not practical, because you still have to drive your kids to school, and buy groceries.

      There's probably a middle level, people who are actively involved in doing direct work that you don't want being paraded around publicly. But if you get called into congressional meetings (or called before parliament), if you have a press officer who works for you etc. well guess what, they know who you are, and what you're up to. It may be marginally lowering the barrier to finding out where they live, but seriously, if you can't follow a guy home from work to find out where he lives, dig up his employment record etc. well then you're not a very good spy.

      Notice the name of the guy who had the fake profile. James Stavrdis. Do a google search for him. So right. How much is really practical to try and keep secret about who he is, or who he's friends with and what schools his children go to. The exact mission he's up to, sure, mildly problematic, but you now what he looks like, what books he wrote, when he was born etc. etc. etc. And that's in 5 seconds of google searching. He even has an official glog and website.

      When you're high enough up, you become part of the public face of an organization, and facebook is nothing if not a place for public facing.

    12. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check again. In response to G+'s circles, Facebook made its friends groups more visible. Not sure how obvious it is that you can set privacy settings by friends group, though.

      Also, assuming any intelligence agency can't read what you post on Facebook is ridiculous. I would like Facebook to not just randomly show my data to whoever, but protecting it from spies actively trying to get access to it? Sure, that would be nice, but really, expecting Facebook (or any company which hasn't signed an NDA of some sort) to keep important secrets? Huh?

    13. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      might as well ban Twitter and Facebook for damn near every Government employee who holds a security clearance.

      How little you know, dear innocent.

    14. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      I heard in my security class that during Gulf War I, some reporters correlated major strikes with the number of pizzas being ordered out late at night.

      Probably another post-hoc falacy.

    15. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

      That feature disappeared for a short while, but it's back now. Whenever I confirm a friend request or request friendship, it immediately lets me put them onto a list.

      It even does this on the limited mobile web version, too.

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    16. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by rHBa · · Score: 1

      Good status update: The president's fine, I'm just running a few software updates before I come home.

      Bad status update: I just ran over Bo! I think we might need to force a password update this month.

    17. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      I only see the option when I request. I don't get the option when I receive requests. I have to confirm those requests first then only set the lists after.

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    18. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

      If I recall correctly, I see the option immediately after accepting the request.

      It's a pull-down menu but I don't recall what it says. I think "Add to List" but I could be wrong.

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    19. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by execthis · · Score: 1

      I just ran over Bo! I think we might need to force a password update this month.

      LOL

    20. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      That's as I said:

      You have to add them as friend first then move them to the restricted list. So there's a window of opportunity for them to get the data out.

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    21. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

      Well sure, like 5 seconds. Okay.

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    22. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 seconds is a long time for computers.

    23. Re:Facebook is secure against hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's from Tom Clancy's first op center. I have a hard time believing I used to enjoy reading his crappy writing when I was younger. So yes, it's a post-hoc fallacy.

  3. I guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Admirals need friends too.

  4. People are dumb by Monoman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Social engineering FTW ... again.

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  5. Anyone else not comfortable by Bardwick · · Score: 1

    That senior government officials are posting things deemed sensative to facebook? I mean, really? Let's hope they don't share launch codes with thier "inner circle" of facebook friends.. /sarc

    1. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

      Agreed! I'm on FB, but I don't post anything even remotely sensitive. Other than finding out when my last bowel movement was, there would be little point for a spy to "friend" me.

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    2. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Baloroth · · Score: 0

      I don't think personal details like these are considered "sensitive", exactly. It's pretty basic information that any spy (and most citizens, if so inclined) can find out with a few days worth of work. Facebook just makes it a lot easier, and also allows them to get more personal stuff they couldn't easily find, like pictures, which could be used to influence (bribe, extort, blackmail) them later. Which is why Facebook is pretty stupid overall: you never know what is going to come back and bite you in the arse later on.

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    3. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by PIBM · · Score: 3, Funny

      And you post that to facebook ? No wonder you don't have any friends!

    4. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The launch code is probably 1-2-3-4-5

    5. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1-1-1-1-1 actually. Yay.

    6. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      That senior government officials are posting things deemed sensative to facebook?

      Most of things mentioned aren't particularly sensitive, they are things that are public, or at least not security-sensitive though private-for-efficiency information that would usually take a little more effort for spies to compile.

    7. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That senior government officials are posting things deemed sensative to facebook? I mean, really? Let's hope they don't share launch codes with thier "inner circle" of facebook friends.. /sarc

      There are established rules about whether and how US government officials can use Facebook, just as there are for using email, or phones, or telegraphs or smoke signals. Nothing sensitive is suppose to be handled over any of these channels.

      The guy whose profile was faked has apparently used his real Facebook profile to make announcements he was cleared to make publicly in the past.

      It sounds like the people snared by the Chinese in this case were British officials.

    8. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by travdaddy · · Score: 3, Funny

      They mostly post battle plans for the next week. They say they're looking for suggestions but all they really want is compliments.

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    9. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually 4-4-4-4-4 but don't tell anyone.

    10. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by s.petry · · Score: 1

      The code some idiot puts on their luggage

      Gratuitous Spaceballs reference I take it?

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    11. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by s.petry · · Score: 4, Informative

      You obviously know little about how Social Engineering works if you believe that to be true. When I worked DOD it was recommended that we never post information to any Social network about where we worked, what we did for a living, who our co-workers were, etc.. This was not just for the protection of the Government, but also protection of your own family and friends.

      I no longer work DOD, but when I did I did not post on anything including /. with my credentials.

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    12. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      And you post that to facebook ? No wonder you don't have any friends!

      Exactly, that is the kind of thing you tweet, so they can call ytou and get that great echo effect provided by public restrooms.

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    13. Re:Anyone else not comfortable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that is what Twitter is for!

  6. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please dont misrepresent this. These government people are at fault here for being stupid.

  7. Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There is no other way to communicate online other than facebook for government officials???

    1. Re:Really by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows Facebook is the new internet communications channel, gah!

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    2. Re:Really by drkim · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, all secret government posting are done on MySpace now, because nobody ever goes there...

  8. Seriously, why? by Dynamoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, why do these people use Facebook anyway? It's just a massive security risk for people in that position, and presumably the only upside is they can post "Just nuked Tehran lol" on their wall when the balloon goes up..

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    1. Re:Seriously, why? by Racemaniac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because they are just people too. Who also want to stay in touch with friends & family?

    2. Re:Seriously, why? by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      if only. they're not just people. there is a world of difference between joe six-pack and a NATO officer in terms of privacy.

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    3. Re:Seriously, why? by Dynamoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because people in these high-profile and sensitive positions cannot expect life to be exactly normal. When the nature of the job means that you are advised to check under your car for bombs before you get in it, then a certain degree of caution is needed.

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    4. Re:Seriously, why? by Canazza · · Score: 2

      There's keeping in touch with friends and family and then there's checking in using 4Square when meeting with the President. A FB Page, in regards to a high-ranking official, should be kept separate from their working lives. No posting of your movements, no friending your colleagues unless you've met them and agreed to before hand (infact, that's common sense when it comes to FB normally).
      The fact that this Admiral, out of the blue, adds them to FB and they don't bat an eyelid or even think to pick up the phone to ask him if it's genuine...

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    5. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are aware that one can "stay in touch with friends & family" on the internet without using Facebook, correct?

      News flash: people were communicating on the internet for decades before Facebook came along.

    6. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No posting of your movements, no friending your colleagues unless you've met them and agreed to before hand (infact, that's common sense when it comes to FB normally).

      The former yes, the latter not really. If I see a friend on FB I'll send him a friend invite. That's what the system is for. Why ask him beforehand if he wants to accept? He can just press decline like an intelligent human being.

    7. Re:Seriously, why? by Real_Reddox · · Score: 0

      Its not a massive security risk to use facebook. It all depends on what you post there. They probably use FB for the same reasons everyone else does.

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    8. Re:Seriously, why? by DarkOx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It all depends on what you post there.

      No that is the problem it depends on what YOU post there and what everyone you are FRIENDS with post there.

      Maybe you don't post your going on vacation for week because you don't would be crooks to know for sure you are not at your house. Your girlfriend however is not so careful and or does not much care about her apartment. She posts she is out of town for the week and than tags you in some photos at the beech from her mobile.

      Now anyone in either of your circles has a pretty good idea YOU are out of town. This is problem. Someone with an 'in' could be at the friend of friend level, depending on not just YOURS but your FRIENDS privacy settings and some time to pick through the site and workout relationships (even if the info is not shared, they could do it through pictures etc, odds are the girl with your arm around her waste is wife or girlfriend not a sister, etc) can derive lots of information based on what others post that YOU never shared.

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    9. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because this thing called "phone" doesn't allow you to communicated directly with your friends and family.

    10. Re:Seriously, why? by Real_Reddox · · Score: 1

      Depending on your privacy settings you can limit tagging.

      I would also hope none of my colleagues are dumb enough to post "On super secret recce-mission with *name*, lol. Location: Afghanistan"

      You have a point though, that facebook can be used to collect quite a lot of information, thats why its important to be aware of these issues, to keep sensitive stuff off it. And/or use a fake surname.

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    11. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use FB as a personal phonebook more than anything. People change their phone numbers from time to time, and their email addresses as well. If they have a FB account, though, I can send them a personal message, or I can even chat with them directly. I NEVER post status updates, photos, write on walls, or do any of the other stupid things FB wants us to do. I can imagine that a NATO official would like to do the same. Now, if they're posting status updates or photos, then that's a bit worrisome, depending on the context. "OMG, found red sock in washer, ruined my whites," is fairly innocuous. "OMG, Putin is such a !@#$, I can't wait until he gets overthrown so I don't have to deal with him ," would have me concerned. If they added coworkers or business associates to their contact list, which these people are obviously doing, then I'd be VERY concerned.

    12. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Depending on your privacy settings you can limit tagging.
      You are a fool if you actually believe that works.

    13. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two corrections:

      The third sentence should be "FB accounts are much more static, so if they have a FB account..."

      The sentence about Putin was intended to have a "wink" emote at the end, but /. removes any text within angle brackets, and treats them as HTML. This changes the meaning of the sentence to imply that the official may be supporting any opposition groups to undermine Putin.

    14. Re:Seriously, why? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      You have a point though, that facebook can be used to collect quite a lot of information, thats why its important to be aware of these issues, to keep sensitive stuff off it. And/or use a fake surname.

      Or, even easier...just don't have any FaceBook accounts.

      :)

      I've never had one, never will....and my social life and communication with my friends hasn't suffered a bit.

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    15. Re:Seriously, why? by Real_Reddox · · Score: 1

      It makes it a LOT easier to keep in touch with friends, both local and friends in other countries. Its a useful tool, at least for me.

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    16. Re:Seriously, why? by Real_Reddox · · Score: 1

      > Depending on your privacy settings you can limit tagging. You are a fool if you actually believe that works.

      How? If I turn off location tagging, how can I possibly be tagged at a location?

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    17. Re:Seriously, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never considered putting my arm around a girl's waste. If you're into that sort of thing you might want to reconsider posting that information on the public internet.

  9. Seriously? by Flipstylee · · Score: 1

    I thought in this day and age, people (especially, ya know, important, educated people) would realize that doing things online is
    the same as doing them in public... except there's always a fly on the wall...
    a very smart fly... that never goes anywhere... and is a chatty cathy.

    1. Re:Seriously? by Flipstylee · · Score: 1

      sorry for the double post, couldn't edit the previous, YES i know he was "tricked", my point was
      what are they doing putting anything useful on social networking sites to begin with?
      I would think with the way OUR military likes to do things, facebook would be a big no no.

  10. Unknown Hackers? by JustinFreid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Registering for Facebook with a fake name hardly qualifies as hacking.
    Surprisingly, the headline is more accurate than the story.

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    1. Re:Unknown Hackers? by sootman · · Score: 3, Informative

      > Surprisingly, the headline is more accurate than the story.

      More accurate than the submission, you mean. TFA (I'm new here) actually addresses that point:

      This type of compromising attempts are called 'Social Engineering' and has nothing to do with 'hacking' or 'espionage', a SHAPE spokesperson said in a statement.

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    2. Re:Unknown Hackers? by JustinFreid · · Score: 1

      Story was meant to refer to the submitter's description, not the source article.
      I can see how you could have taken it to mean the article.

      Welcome to Slashdot. I'm old here.

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    3. Re:Unknown Hackers? by Ambitwistor · · Score: 1
    4. Re:Unknown Hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you heard? Violating the TOS of a website is considered hacking now. And yes, providing false information to Facebook violates their TOS, and is grounds for the account to be disabled, possibly deleted.

  11. I deleted my FB account 3 months ago by jerryjnormandin · · Score: 1, Interesting

    As I'm getting older I'm starting to value my privacy more and more. So... I deleted all my friends, posts, and pictures on facebook and renamed my name to a fictitious character. As I'm getting older I value my privacy. If I want to talk about something I'll wait until I see them. I don't need everyone knowing my business. I think all of us here should do the same. Too many people are addicted to facebook. It's an illness. Do you have any idea how many work colleagues hit facebook during work hours or on the phone hitting fb during the commute home ?

  12. You are the weakest link... by DontBlameCanada · · Score: 2

    Too bad you won't say "goodbye!". This is another example of s*** floats to the top in government, military and business.

  13. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who doesn't have a fake facebook to friend pornstars and sluts? Chinese just get their jollies by looking at US officials private lives... *shrugs*

  14. You keep using that word... by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 2

    ...I do not think it means what you think it means. Fake Facebook profile == "hacker"?

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  15. Both Ways ... by Grindalf · · Score: 0

    You can play this both ways! Set up honey Pot NATO "special palls" fake accounts with "too good to be true" details attached. This will keep everyone typing and uploading fake contrived pictures happily for weeks. Think of the lies they could feed each other, and how big the final facebook agency will become in terms of budget and company cars. It's the war of the future! :0)

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  16. goodbye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad you won't say "goodbye!
    http://noithatducduong.com/.

  17. I'd fire them by rs1n · · Score: 2

    While hindsight is 20/20, common sense should have prevailed when it comes to Facebook and security. Social networks should, on a general basis, be banned from all parts of the government in which security _could_ be an issue.

    1. Re:I'd fire them by PPH · · Score: 1

      banned from all parts of the government in which security _could_ be an issue.

      Its not an issue of NATO officials using social networks at work vs home. Its one of revealing personal or family movements to foreign intelligence agents. Someone being deployed overseas, or attending a secret meeting can inadvertently reveal this when they post changing contact details. Or when their kids start posting photos of their friends at the new expatriate school.

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    2. Re:I'd fire them by rs1n · · Score: 1

      banned from all parts of the government in which security _could_ be an issue.

      Its not an issue of NATO officials using social networks at work vs home. Its one of revealing personal or family movements to foreign intelligence agents. Someone being deployed overseas, or attending a secret meeting can inadvertently reveal this when they post changing contact details. Or when their kids start posting photos of their friends at the new expatriate school.

      The emphasis on _could_ was intentional, and in fact was meant to include what you've described.

  18. spies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Are you sure they are spies but not some spammers?

    I guess anyone talking to one of these official would very well be labeled as spies.

  19. Spies use tricks everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That does it.

    I want the Internet closed before 11.

  20. Big Deal by travdaddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Email addresses, phone numbers, family members? Those officials probably give out the same information when they sign up for customer appreciation cards.

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  21. Twitter: by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Tweet: I am accessing hi-security government documents right now.
    Tweet: I am posting them online - please no-one look at them
    Tweet: They are located at xafdsfd.fdsfdsfds.com please do not go there.
    Tweet: They are not password protected so please don't open them.

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    1. Re:Twitter: by SumterLiving · · Score: 1

      I'd like to follow you on Twitter. My name is "Not_a_Spy" so obviously I'm a good guy. And I promise I won't look at those documents...scouts honor.

  22. No damage by Hentes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Their personal information is their property, and they are free to share with with the rest of the world. As long as they don't post sensitive military information on Facebook, there is no damage done.

    1. Re:No damage by rs1n · · Score: 1

      This is disputable. Your personal information may be considered a security risk and need to be kept private -- possibly even for your own safety. For example, your spouse may work for the CIA, and your spouse may not even have a Facebook account. However, the "enemy" tracking your spouse would find some very useful information about your address should they happen to know that their target is also married to you. Then you post something like "*sigh* my husband/wife will be gone again, and I'll miss him/her so much" and suddenly they know he/she is on a mission.

  23. Better at spying by OldGunner · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if the Chinese are better at spying, or just get caught more often.

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    1. Re:Better at spying by RogueLeaderX · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if the Chinese are better at spying, or just get caught more often.

      That would suggest they're worse at spying, not better.

      Alternately, Western media reports on Chinese spys getting caught but not Western spies.

  24. Chinese? by eternaldoctorwho · · Score: 2

    The article's headline and teaser lines mention Chinese spies, but the article itself provides nothing to back up this claim. Where are they getting this information from?

    1. Re:Chinese? by Sechr+Nibw · · Score: 2
      FTA:

      NATO officials are reluctant to publicly state who was behind the attack, but The Telegraph says China is to blame. The publication quotes classified briefings in which military officers and diplomats were told the evidence pointed to “state-sponsored individuals in China.” The Guardian agrees, quoting a security source who says “the belief is that China is behind this.”

  25. Hu Jintao likes this by Ambitwistor · · Score: 2

    +1 thumb up

  26. Even CIA officers have families... by SwedishChef · · Score: 5, Informative

    A friend of mine who retired from CIA after 26 years once told me that his family was only happy for six of those years... and not six consecutive years. Cut off from family and friends back home and in contact only by letters and the occasional "home leave" of a month or two, he was trying to fit back in to the country he spent his life trying to serve (back in the days when the Agency was less of an operational force and more of an intelligence gathering organization). I can see how Facebook would have made their lives more enjoyable with all the family and friends news (and even minutia). I'm sure it's a security risk par excellance but I can certainly understand why they'd do it. And I can especially understand why a wife, stuck inside an apartment in Djibouti trying to order six months of canned food from Denmark, might.

    I don't expect Slashdot readers to grok it, though.

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    1. Re:Even CIA officers have families... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I apologize if this is a personal question, but, just out of curiosity, why did you friend serve for 26 years if it made his family unhappy?

    2. Re:Even CIA officers have families... by SwedishChef · · Score: 1

      I apologize if this is a personal question, but, just out of curiosity, why did you friend serve for 26 years if it made his family unhappy?

      First of all, it's difficult to look for a job when you're in Djibouti (I don't think he was... but he did serve in some seriously nasty places). It's also not easy to leave if you are, like most CIA staffers, overseas most of the time... you don't have a lot of US contacts (because you don't live in the USA) and you don't have a base of operations. Thirdly, you might not find it surprising to discover that there is not much of a one-to-one mapping of job requirements for a former CIA officer moving into the job market in the USA.

      But I think the biggest reason is that, like many people, hope springs eternal and most assignments are just 2 or 3 years long. And while they weren't always "happy" they were not always unhappy; if that makes any sense. Also, the longer you stay with the Agency the easier it is to adapt to a new area and it's a small cadre of staff officers (most of the Afghanistan and Iraq "CIA" people are contractors not staffers); every station you go to you find old friends. And everyone hopes for that dream job in Paris or Rio or Buenos Aires. The Agency knows all this so they dish out a plum assignment now and then so you get to live in a house and not an apartment for a couple of years. And even get rotated back to the USA where the HQ types are all getting promoted to division chief spots.

      And the life wears on you, for sure. Kids come home from school and say, "Daddy.... Bobby says you'rr a CIA agent... are you?" And your college pals (and in-laws, often) think you're a flake who can't keep a job. Plus the possible dangers your family face. The Soviet KGB and the CIA maintained a clear "family is off-limits" policy but modern terrorists have no such scruples.

      It's not like the movies.

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  27. Proof that NATO is run by IDIOTS by na1led · · Score: 1

    This just shows that the top 1% who run this world are a bunch of idiots. No wonder the world is such a mess!

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    1. Re:Proof that NATO is run by IDIOTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am glad NATO doesn't rule the world. They're just the muscle for those blatant morons actually running the world..

  28. Clearly Facebook's Fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Citizens of all nations shouldn't have to live in fear that Facebook will publish the most sensitive and private information of government officials and military secrets to their country's enemies. Facebook should be punished for revealing sensitive and private information entrusted to it to others.

    Nothing like a good laugh to lift the irritation of having to futz with all the clocks again.

  29. That's nothing... by sidthegeek · · Score: 1

    I was once friends with General Marriott Suites.

  30. Chinese Spies == Unknown Hackers by RobCull · · Score: 1

    Well, obviously.

  31. We've identified the problem by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    ==> NATO officials... with Facebook accounts...

    Oh. My. God.

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  32. Why would people in the military even be on it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, does it take half a brain to realize that a social-networking site is something they should be avoiding? Ok, so half a brain isn't necessary to be an official of any kind, just being a whole asshole, but still, there should be a class.

    Then again, I don't have any such accounts at all. What do I feel about that? Great, since I know the benefits are not worth the price. It's the same reason I'd never hold a party at my house. Minor affair for major hassle.

  33. So interesting. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . but seriously, does anyone know where I can find some launch codes?

    1. Re:So interesting. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . . . but seriously, does anyone know where I can find some launch codes?

      You should probably Google that.

  34. This is hilarious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, it just is. I'll start feeling bad when the bodies show up, but until then, I'm going to laugh.

  35. facebook is evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    didn't they get the memo?

    1. Re:facebook is evil by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

      Close, but not quite. Facebook is evil and stupid; but so is NATO, and that's why they signed up ^^

  36. Re:oh boy by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Who doesn't have a fake facebook to friend pornstars and sluts?

    I don't.

    I don't have any FB accounts at all...fake or real.

    Keeps things neater that way....

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  37. Re:oh boy by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Kind of like saying that women that are raped are stupid for having been in their homes at the time. Right?

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  38. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe if she had a neon sign on the roof that said "Good Rapin' inside".

  39. Whatever happened to the good old days by deodiaus2 · · Score: 1

    When the other side used prostitutes, drugs, money, and various other ways of extracting secrets!

  40. Didn't you learn in high school by deodiaus2 · · Score: 1

    that not everyone who claims to be your friend is really your friend! Shit, and it took some Chinese chicks offering blow jobs before he spilled his secrets. Also, there is a huge tendency in many of these agencies to over classify everything. Good thing he really didn't know any!!
    I heard that the security team at Los Alamos wanted to classify a Soviet scientist's presentation! I guess someone had to point out that it had already been leaked to the USA.

  41. Re:oh boy by KramberryKoncerto · · Score: 1

    No. It's more like turning off the radar and shutting down artillery at a front-line base.