France does industrial spying. Chinese firms are more interested in spying on industry AND western gov. There is a big difference. China is in a cold war with the west. France is not in a cold war.
Actually, it is an old one. Decades ago, I worked at Bell Labs/Avaya. We had to port one of our phones systems to Windows because the sales idiots SWORE that it would sell well. Well, we moved it at GREAT expense, and then sold less than 10 over the next 2 years. They had SOOOOO many outages. From what I heard later, It was actually more expensive to service those 10, then to service well over several hundred of our unix systems. So, we called it the 'blue screams of death'.
Windows suxed then, and it still does to this day.
They run Android. With them, we do not have to worry about blue screams of death. I mean between Found On Road Dead and MS, it is the LAST PLACE YOU WANT TO BE.
This really comes down to the fact that you have ALL nations not wanting to make economic sacrifices while at the same time, we have China in a cold war with the west via economic means. There are 2 solutions for this:
1) accept that we will have climage change and see where we go.
2) Do something that forces ALL NATIONS TO CHANGE AT THE SAME TIME.
Now, America is NOT going to change unless we see that nations like China, India, Brazil, etc. are going to change. China has already indicated that they will not change. They keep saying that this is about output / person, which is a false measure. So, how to change this? HAVE NATIONS PUT A TAX ON ALL MANUFACTURED GOODS PREDICATED ON CO2 FROM WHERE IT (and parts) CAME from. That tax should rise steadily to give nations time to adjust. OCO2 is about to go up. This sat measures CO2 in the atmosphere. This will give us a true measure of CO2 that is flowing in/out from a nation. That will make it possible for us to have true values to work with. That will almost certainly mean that many nations and even unexpected areas are going to show up as emitting far far more than what they expected. By doing a tax on ALL goods, we will see nations change quickly. The reason is because it is economically better to do that, then not.
The one issue is how to apply it. Many will argue for CO2 per capita. That is one of the WORST measures going. The reason is that nations will cheat in their reporting. In addition, it rewards nations that have not controlled their population. In addition, CO2 output is NOT correlated with populations. Far from it. I have argued that the fairest and sanest would be per sq km. The reason is that the size of land is fixed and can be seen from space. Likewise Ag is a major CO2 emitter. But probably the worst output is a correlation with economic output. Most of man's CO2 output is far more related to economics. As such, it makes sense to look at it in terms of CO2 per $ of GPD or CO2 per land rather than per capitia.
I think that if you are honest, you MUST agree that ppl have DIED from nukes. For starters, there are deaths occurring in Japan right now due to radiation and more will happen. A number of those ppl that were in the plant working were in their 60's because they KNEW that it was a death sentence (and it was).
How did you get modded up. EGS is PROVEN in that it works. Several small systems are operational and new ones are coming. The earthquake in EU has caused the idiots to repeat the current phrase: "when in danger or in doubt, run around in circles, scream and shout". What SHOULD have happened is that they should have said, lets move this away from populations and try this first away from ppl. For example, in the USA, we should be testing this in Colorado, Wyoming, NM, etc. The fact that you minor tremors out of this is ridiculous that ppl get upset about it. Of course, drilling and injecting on fault lines is not too bright either.
In a way, that is true. Look over in EU. They get one minor quake from some geo-thermal and scream bloody murder. They are busy shutting down their nuke plants rather than fixing them. So now they are going to import natural gas from Russia and the middle east, as well as increase coal on which to provide power. Quite honestly, we need a DIVERSITY of energy input, not fewer.
Let me point something. You are an engineer, you have to look over a patent and decide its viability. That basically means that one of them is, is it physically possible. I suspect that they still get perpetual motion machines to this day. Now, the other issue is PRIOR art. Most of the engineers that are making these decisions are in their 30-40s. That means that these ppl were born in the 70s and 80's. What was imports like in China or even India back then? Most of it was NOT from the west. It was from local or even USSR. Now, how can you KNOW about prior art, unless you have seen it at least once? The other choice is to go through search engines, but that takes time to figure out variations on it. Well, if you have limited time and you have not seen it, then you have no choice but to not worry about it. That is obviously part of why the USPTO has told these engineers to not worry about it. HOWEVER, it is creating a NIGHTMARE for all of us. It is better to have a backlog of patents and have ppl screaming at CONgress for not doing their jobs, then to allow shady patents through. I do not blame the engineers. Nor was it racists in any fashion. What I maintain is that foreign raised engineers are NOT the right ppl CURRENTLY for USPTO when considering prior art. Oddly, in another 15-20 years, they will make better ones than Americans since we have gutted our manufacturing since 1981.
What is interesting, is that this is actually an opportunity for AI work. Google and USPTO are digitizing everything. By making it available, it should be possible for an AI engine to look at various designs and compare to previous patents. What is interesting about that, is that it would make a great X-prize.
LOL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So much truth in that damn statement. I would say that those that control the politicians are the ones that get to re-write history. Sadly, that is the ones that control the gold.
That is pretty much what I was thinking. In fact, another play on that, is by burning out the equipment early, then they get more sales. However, I suspect that it was what you were saying. That is why I think that finding this is actually an opportunity to fix things.
That is possibly just a kid playing, however, it could be somebody learning. The nice thing is that it has now been detected. Perhaps it is time to push not just security, but to insist that the parts be western or better yet, American made. Seriously, this is infrastructure that should be local to friendly nations. China is hard at work to make sure that they have the ability to import zero food as well as all of their equipment is from local sources. In doing that, they claim national security. Makes sense. But we should be doing the same.
Yeah, except workers at the patent office have been explicitly told that it is not their job to look at prior art, that it is up to the courts to decide. This was largely in an effort to get through their enormous backlog more quickly, but any idiot could have seen that it was going to lead to abuse.
Holy crap. That explains what I am seeing. In one patent that I will have to fight against, the diagrams were of something that was sold back in the 60-70's. You could tell that she had seen it and simply put it down as a patent. For the life of me, I could not image how ANYBODY would pass that, unless they had never seen it themselves (which was impossible since many homes had this). And in each of these cases, I saw that the engineers were likely foreign raised (china specifically). But an order like that, would make as much sense as well.
Thank you for the information. But what a fucking PITA. Now, I will have to deal with GD lawyers and courts. That is in NOBODY best interest.
It is not fraud on MS's part if they mention the prior art and the inspectors did not have enough knowledge to decide intelligently. That is a fact. My point is that many of the engineers that USPTO hire are foreign raised and have no real knowledge of prior art. At this time, the bulk of prior art remains in the west. Over the course of the next 30 years, is when we need to have foreign raised engineers. But at THIS time, the majority should be Westerners, or even more so, Americans.
Well, gates has a false legacy all around him. For starters, he was not the one that picked DOS. IBM did. Later on, Gates bought the rights to Unix, merged it with DOS and then sold Xenix on 286s. When it had zero performance, it was others that pointed out how foolish he was. ANother set of employees had to convince him to stick with DOS and skip Xenix. Then gates ran around screaming that 640K was more than enough. The net we all know about. I mean it continues on and on and on. The man was NOT that bright. Just in the right places at the right time, with the right ppl.
Sadly, since MS has such a dearth of talent (esp. with that idiot balmer), they have to resort to illegal tactics.
Don't you think that the fact that they entered into these agreements speaks loudly about the ppl that run these companies and kind of shoots down your argument?
The problem is that USPTO has been hiring foreign born engineers that come over here, finish a PhD, get their citizenship and then get on with USPTO. They have little knowledge of state of the art, and more importantly, little to none of the PRIOR ART.
I wish that I had mod points. Yeah, method patents have ZERO value. What amazes me is that with the recent patent changes, that these were not wiped out.
This will sound dumb, but what about the other companies that cut deals with MS? Can they back out of it and sue MS? It would be interesting to see law suits started against MS again, but this time, make it in multiple nations.
Actually, their one-child rule is supported by more than 2/3 of the chinese population. They KNOW that they are overpopulated. It will not hurt them to have that policy. The problem that they have is that they have been doing sex-selective abortions. As such, they have far too many males vs. women. That is also why Chinese gov. tolerates prostitution. BTW, India has the same issue. The difference is that now, dowrys are starting to go the other way (to the woman's family) and women are considered desirable. As such, they have slowed the sex-selection abortions.
As to economics, it is NORMALLY not a zero-sum game. That is when all play fair. The core of that, is that money MUST freely change, subsidies must be dropped, trade barriers must be dropped, and no dumping. The problem is that China employs ALL OF THESE. In addition, they are doing more and more. EU currently has trade barriers to many items from China. Clinton did that accord which dropped ours, but it was predicated on China honoring their part. They have not done so. At this point, we should slowly raise trade barriers to Chinese imports. By raising them slowly, we give them a chance to do the right things, while giving companies the chance to bring back manufacturing to here.
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France does industrial spying. Chinese firms are more interested in spying on industry AND western gov. There is a big difference. China is in a cold war with the west. France is not in a cold war.
Actually, it is an old one. Decades ago, I worked at Bell Labs/Avaya. We had to port one of our phones systems to Windows because the sales idiots SWORE that it would sell well. Well, we moved it at GREAT expense, and then sold less than 10 over the next 2 years. They had SOOOOO many outages. From what I heard later, It was actually more expensive to service those 10, then to service well over several hundred of our unix systems. So, we called it the 'blue screams of death'.
Windows suxed then, and it still does to this day.
They run Android. With them, we do not have to worry about blue screams of death. I mean between Found On Road Dead and MS, it is the LAST PLACE YOU WANT TO BE.
This really comes down to the fact that you have ALL nations not wanting to make economic sacrifices while at the same time, we have China in a cold war with the west via economic means. There are 2 solutions for this:
1) accept that we will have climage change and see where we go.
2) Do something that forces ALL NATIONS TO CHANGE AT THE SAME TIME.
Now, America is NOT going to change unless we see that nations like China, India, Brazil, etc. are going to change. China has already indicated that they will not change. They keep saying that this is about output / person, which is a false measure. So, how to change this? HAVE NATIONS PUT A TAX ON ALL MANUFACTURED GOODS PREDICATED ON CO2 FROM WHERE IT (and parts) CAME from. That tax should rise steadily to give nations time to adjust. OCO2 is about to go up. This sat measures CO2 in the atmosphere. This will give us a true measure of CO2 that is flowing in/out from a nation. That will make it possible for us to have true values to work with. That will almost certainly mean that many nations and even unexpected areas are going to show up as emitting far far more than what they expected. By doing a tax on ALL goods, we will see nations change quickly. The reason is because it is economically better to do that, then not.
The one issue is how to apply it. Many will argue for CO2 per capita. That is one of the WORST measures going. The reason is that nations will cheat in their reporting. In addition, it rewards nations that have not controlled their population. In addition, CO2 output is NOT correlated with populations. Far from it.
I have argued that the fairest and sanest would be per sq km. The reason is that the size of land is fixed and can be seen from space. Likewise Ag is a major CO2 emitter. But probably the worst output is a correlation with economic output. Most of man's CO2 output is far more related to economics.
As such, it makes sense to look at it in terms of CO2 per $ of GPD or CO2 per land rather than per capitia.
Geothermal is downright dangerous when used too much (read on geothermal depletion for example).
Uh, no. Just because you use up too much of the heat too quickly is NOT dangerous, just foolish. The reason is that you must wait for future use.
OTH, depleting water/steam from inside OR injecting too much, CAN be dangerous. But that is a different issue.
I think that if you are honest, you MUST agree that ppl have DIED from nukes. For starters, there are deaths occurring in Japan right now due to radiation and more will happen. A number of those ppl that were in the plant working were in their 60's because they KNEW that it was a death sentence (and it was).
However, coal has done a lot more damage.
How did you get modded up. EGS is PROVEN in that it works. Several small systems are operational and new ones are coming. The earthquake in EU has caused the idiots to repeat the current phrase: "when in danger or in doubt, run around in circles, scream and shout". What SHOULD have happened is that they should have said, lets move this away from populations and try this first away from ppl. For example, in the USA, we should be testing this in Colorado, Wyoming, NM, etc. The fact that you minor tremors out of this is ridiculous that ppl get upset about it. Of course, drilling and injecting on fault lines is not too bright either.
In a way, that is true. Look over in EU. They get one minor quake from some geo-thermal and scream bloody murder. They are busy shutting down their nuke plants rather than fixing them. So now they are going to import natural gas from Russia and the middle east, as well as increase coal on which to provide power. Quite honestly, we need a DIVERSITY of energy input, not fewer.
Let me point something. You are an engineer, you have to look over a patent and decide its viability. That basically means that one of them is, is it physically possible. I suspect that they still get perpetual motion machines to this day. Now, the other issue is PRIOR art. Most of the engineers that are making these decisions are in their 30-40s. That means that these ppl were born in the 70s and 80's. What was imports like in China or even India back then? Most of it was NOT from the west. It was from local or even USSR. Now, how can you KNOW about prior art, unless you have seen it at least once? The other choice is to go through search engines, but that takes time to figure out variations on it. Well, if you have limited time and you have not seen it, then you have no choice but to not worry about it. That is obviously part of why the USPTO has told these engineers to not worry about it. HOWEVER, it is creating a NIGHTMARE for all of us. It is better to have a backlog of patents and have ppl screaming at CONgress for not doing their jobs, then to allow shady patents through. I do not blame the engineers. Nor was it racists in any fashion. What I maintain is that foreign raised engineers are NOT the right ppl CURRENTLY for USPTO when considering prior art. Oddly, in another 15-20 years, they will make better ones than Americans since we have gutted our manufacturing since 1981.
What is interesting, is that this is actually an opportunity for AI work. Google and USPTO are digitizing everything. By making it available, it should be possible for an AI engine to look at various designs and compare to previous patents. What is interesting about that, is that it would make a great X-prize.
LOL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So much truth in that damn statement. I would say that those that control the politicians are the ones that get to re-write history. Sadly, that is the ones that control the gold.
That is pretty much what I was thinking. In fact, another play on that, is by burning out the equipment early, then they get more sales. However, I suspect that it was what you were saying. That is why I think that finding this is actually an opportunity to fix things.
And yet, I know others that still do protective prescriptions.
That is possibly just a kid playing, however, it could be somebody learning. The nice thing is that it has now been detected. Perhaps it is time to push not just security, but to insist that the parts be western or better yet, American made. Seriously, this is infrastructure that should be local to friendly nations. China is hard at work to make sure that they have the ability to import zero food as well as all of their equipment is from local sources. In doing that, they claim national security. Makes sense. But we should be doing the same.
Yeah, except workers at the patent office have been explicitly told that it is not their job to look at prior art, that it is up to the courts to decide. This was largely in an effort to get through their enormous backlog more quickly, but any idiot could have seen that it was going to lead to abuse.
Holy crap. That explains what I am seeing. In one patent that I will have to fight against, the diagrams were of something that was sold back in the 60-70's. You could tell that she had seen it and simply put it down as a patent. For the life of me, I could not image how ANYBODY would pass that, unless they had never seen it themselves (which was impossible since many homes had this). And in each of these cases, I saw that the engineers were likely foreign raised (china specifically). But an order like that, would make as much sense as well.
Thank you for the information. But what a fucking PITA. Now, I will have to deal with GD lawyers and courts. That is in NOBODY best interest.
It is not fraud on MS's part if they mention the prior art and the inspectors did not have enough knowledge to decide intelligently. That is a fact. My point is that many of the engineers that USPTO hire are foreign raised and have no real knowledge of prior art. At this time, the bulk of prior art remains in the west. Over the course of the next 30 years, is when we need to have foreign raised engineers. But at THIS time, the majority should be Westerners, or even more so, Americans.
Well, gates has a false legacy all around him. For starters, he was not the one that picked DOS. IBM did. Later on, Gates bought the rights to Unix, merged it with DOS and then sold Xenix on 286s. When it had zero performance, it was others that pointed out how foolish he was. ANother set of employees had to convince him to stick with DOS and skip Xenix. Then gates ran around screaming that 640K was more than enough. The net we all know about. I mean it continues on and on and on. The man was NOT that bright. Just in the right places at the right time, with the right ppl.
Sadly, since MS has such a dearth of talent (esp. with that idiot balmer), they have to resort to illegal tactics.
No. But I am guessing that you are a highschooler or somebody from China.
Why not? By allowing their population to fall, they can move to sustainability. Growth is not sustainable.
Don't you think that the fact that they entered into these agreements speaks loudly about the ppl that run these companies and kind of shoots down your argument?
First off, not for another year. However, prior art STILL matters. You can not patent what you did not invent.
The problem is that USPTO has been hiring foreign born engineers that come over here, finish a PhD, get their citizenship and then get on with USPTO. They have little knowledge of state of the art, and more importantly, little to none of the PRIOR ART.
I wish that I had mod points. Yeah, method patents have ZERO value. What amazes me is that with the recent patent changes, that these were not wiped out.
This will sound dumb, but what about the other companies that cut deals with MS? Can they back out of it and sue MS? It would be interesting to see law suits started against MS again, but this time, make it in multiple nations.
I am sorry, but what laws are being pushed to 'centralize control' of the net?
Actually, their one-child rule is supported by more than 2/3 of the chinese population. They KNOW that they are overpopulated. It will not hurt them to have that policy. The problem that they have is that they have been doing sex-selective abortions. As such, they have far too many males vs. women. That is also why Chinese gov. tolerates prostitution. BTW, India has the same issue. The difference is that now, dowrys are starting to go the other way (to the woman's family) and women are considered desirable. As such, they have slowed the sex-selection abortions.
As to economics, it is NORMALLY not a zero-sum game. That is when all play fair. The core of that, is that money MUST freely change, subsidies must be dropped, trade barriers must be dropped, and no dumping. The problem is that China employs ALL OF THESE. In addition, they are doing more and more. EU currently has trade barriers to many items from China. Clinton did that accord which dropped ours, but it was predicated on China honoring their part. They have not done so. At this point, we should slowly raise trade barriers to Chinese imports. By raising them slowly, we give them a chance to do the right things, while giving companies the chance to bring back manufacturing to here.