Instead of seeing it jump directly to it, I would rather that the fleet be required to increase to that on a straight line yearly. IOW, it is better to require that the fleet average increases ~2mpg each year. If we wait until 2016 to increase it, then the incoming admin will destroy it as being bad for the economy. In addition, over the next 8 years, America will buy the OLD standard cars and they will remain for 10-20 years.
Hopefully, the dems will grow a pair and do what is right.
How is that anti-intellectual ? Perhaps you should visit a campus once. Note the large presence of, shall we say, people who exonerate people like massacrers like Che Guevara and blame all of society's ills on the military. Or whoever they are sure won't retaliate (note for example, the dead silence about Sri Lanka's misdeeds since that government sued and, shall we say, lightly persuaded, a BBC press team to leave).
That same garbage occurred in the 60's/70's. And it is normally, the the same kind of idiot as the original poster was. You ignore them, or call them the idiots and fools that they all are (including the original poster). In general, there were plenty of intellectuals that argue against the use of the military. Heck, Eisenhower HATED THE MILITARY. He viewed it as a needed evil, which it is. If we let our defense down, then we WILL be back in a world war. BTW, YOu ARE AWARE That the west has been giving aid to sri lanka's gov since we found out that Tamil Tigers aided AQ?
Can one please be allowed to articulate a displeasure between certain extremely hypocritical portions of society ? The part that's hiding behind the biggest guns of the world screaming about how evil their government is, knowing both that said government won't retaliate and knowing full well that there are real problems in the world. The government of, oh, say Sudan, is a much, much bigger problem than even the worst ever US government. But only one of those gets any action.
I find this interesting in light of the two VERY DIFFERENT WARS that we are in. America and the west WERE going after terrorism. W and the neo-cons in ALL OF AMERICA'S name, invaded Iraq. Worse, he loaded the top with total IDIOTS, that forced us to occupy it and allowed AQ in there.
How exactly is this worse than Sudan? Are THEY invading other countries around the world?
Look, I am about to submit more grant proposals to the DOD for some interesting items that I saw. If the idea has merit, That means that I will go to work on a DOD project, again. I have ZERO issues with that (since it is defense, I believe strongly in it). BUT, only an idiot can believe the phrase "YOu are either with us or against us" has an intelligence behind it. Worse, only a total idiot would believe that 100% of what the military AND ITS LEADERs does it right. There is plenty of GOOD CRITICISM to be found in both the university, the media AND even on/.. There was ZERO intelligence to be found in the original posting.
It would appear that the anti-intellectual knee jerk response posted first. I have worked for both DOD (via darpa grants) and NSA, and have to say that I like their response more than I like yours. Generally, they offer some form of insite that I might miss (but almost certainly do not agree with). OTH, your was just a waste of space and time.
THe fun part on this, is that most ppl miss the fact that W, Cheney, and Rove simply said; I do not remember. I suspect that scooter PROBABLY was the ONLY one that had little to nothing to do with that. Keep in mind that just because somebody else MAY have said something, does not mean thatthe others did not commit treason.
IIRC, Gartner was one of the first to say that all shops should move to Vista. Then, when it came out and had a poor reviews, Then and ONLY THEN, did they say, that MAYBE you might not want to move to it. Gartner is attached to the front of Bill's and Chuck's Pants.
Had no intention of marriage to her. She got pregnant. On the day that my daughter born, I did common law marriage (Colorado). I gave her a HECK of a deal. Basically, bought her a home, gave her money for her all of debt, gave her nearly everything of mine (I offered her choice cars, she got nearly all of my furniture, my top computer, even some of my tools; I literally walked away with my tools, books, clothes, my leather sofa set (she hated it), multiple older computers, and sold my most paid off house to pay for all her debt). I thought that it was MORE than fair. Her GD lawyer talked her into trying for a WHOLE LOT MORE (in addition, to what she got, another 100K, which was more than what I was making at the time and pay for her lawyer).
I am since remarried to a women that I wished that I had known before my ex. We do not have an agreement, BUT, she is not the greedy or stupid type. She makes similar yearly to what I USED to make (6 figures). Thankfully, she is Indian and does not believe in divorce so works at the marriage. Love this one.
A big reason that America is in the shape we are, is because far too many idiots sue. And they sue, because some GD lawyer tells them that other party will settle. I went through a 4 year divorce because my ex was told that it would cost me 100K (on top of the money that I had already given her on a 1 year marriage) and that I would settle rather than fight it. It cost 60K+ (less than the 100K), but still, this was caused because the other lawyer pushed this crap.
Google, if you settle, it will keep coming at you and everybody else. The company owns the trademark. BUT, ALL OF US have the RIGHT to put up ads against it based on seeing the ad. DO NOT SETTLE.
Ahhh...the faithful. Even in the face of SCIENTIFIC evidence that the models are flawed and based on untested assumptions they cling to the conclusions. But we know that every OTHER factor used in the models are absolutely correct. It was just this one little thing we hadn't tested. Just like yesterday this was absolutely known.
Actually, the evidence is overwhelming that we are in global warming; Glaciers melting at a rate unknown. GLobal temp for 100+ years obviously climbing. Heck, I have been watching watching weather.com and comparing the actual to predicted daily temps and for the last 5 years, more than 98% of the time the actuals are ABOVE predicted. What I find interesting is that there are ppl that still claim that we are not undergoing global warming. Heck, just 10 years ago, nearly ALL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY said that it was not occurring. Now, the majority accept that it is occurring, but just not man made.
Now, as to the models, there are many factors in it. Things that are unknown have experiments being designed for it. This was one of them. There was underlying assumptions here that lead to others to design experiments to confirm it. And it did not. BUT, other aspects of the models have held up. I am sure that within a month, we will see what the models show.
In the end, does it really matter about the climate issues to you? Would you rather not be more concerned about the west depending on other ppl that want kill us (or at least control us)? WOuld it not make more sense to FINALLY get the F*&^ off of imported fossil fuel from countries that are actively working to control all other countries? And are you not concerned about the future for your kids if we continue to have massive economic deficits (trade deficits, not even counting fed. deficit)? This is in NOBODIES best interest. So skip all the garbage about climate and just look at this from a pure economic POV. It is in all of our best interest to quit burning fossil fuel, and use it for better items; Fertilizer; plastics; base chemicals; etc.
Do not put them everywhere. They really were not meant for it. 5 years ago, I moved many of my lights to CFL, but not all. The closet lights, the one in the crawl space are incandescent. Likewise, the ones over the mirrors are incandescents. I am using a single 40 W LED (only uses 2 watt of power) on the outside, as well as 3 LED hockey pucks to light a desk/hallway area. Finally, ALL of my Xmas lights are LED except for one in blow-up penguin as well as on a wreath that plugs into an X10 plug outside (need something to pull the power down, otherwise, I noticed that the LEDs are lit). Finally, I have incandescents in the fans and the garage door opener. In both cases, the motion will harm the lights.
The interesting thing, is that at the end of the ice age, the bogland was all around the great lakes. Now, it is SO FAR NORTH. And if warming continues, bog will continue to move further north.
First, we have plenty of nuke fuel in America to handle our needs for hundreds of years (and that would be if we move to 100% nukes, which would be a mistake). Secondly, Australia and Canada are major holders of Uranium as well. As to lithium, Bolivia does currently have the largest found deposits, but we have only recently started looking. I have little doubts that more and bigger will be found. OPECs can be created out of anything. BUT, energy generation is what is important to ALL COUNTRIES. Once the west no longer imports large amounts of fuel, then our economy comes back, the invasions/occupations stop, and political blackmail stops as well. You have noticed that the west DOES pay attention to what Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and even Russia wants and does. Russia is a major player in many areas, but if not for oil, both Saudi Arabia and Venezuela would have ZERO abilities to blackmail.
The ONLY problem here, is that some folks want to make trillion-dollar adjustments to industry all over the world based on these models which are still in such a preliminary state.
Really? What makes them preliminary state? The simple fact is, that the majority of data that feeds these models ARE known. In fact, it was because of these models that this experiment was done. Will it change the models? I would think so. Would it change them DRASTICALLY? I seriously doubt it. The simple fact is, that these models have been being developed for over a couple of decades. The real problem is that they do not appear to match what is going on. They all seem to indicate that we have MUCH longer time. Every time they make a prediction of things to occur in 20-30 years, it keeps happening NOW.
As to the trillion dollar adjustments, had America followed Nixon/Ford/Carters lead back in the 70's, and pushed for being off oil/coal, we would not be in Iraq, likely not be in afghanistan, and not have the exchange deficit that we have. The vast majority of the wests security and economic issues can be tied DIRECTLY to our being dependent on the same price fuel that other countries are on.
Actually, we pay more than most because we clean it up more. While China surpassed us in CO2 emissions several years ago, they surpassed us nearly a decade ago in major pollutants. The west MUST get off of importing fossil fuel and skip this garbage about Cap/Trade. Instead, we need to put in place a cap at TODAY's amount (i.e. no more), and then put in a time progressive co2 tax on all goods, esp. imported goods.
then Dengue does. The reason that I say that, is that I now suspect that there are MANY other virus that are transmitted with that bite. I am guessing that these are helping to transform us slowly across time. IOW, the virus that we have not detected at those that do not bring a symptom with them. We probably pick up new snip-its not just from other humans, but from other animals. What Gate's Foundation is looking to do, is wipe out the mosquitoes that bite humans. Any that learn to not bite humans, will instead survive. This may slow the evolution of man while other species continue.
Just thinking about it, SAP might be a target. BUT, in light of Oracle's buyout of Sun, I could see them going after several targets. Dell might be a better one to go after.
Odd. I can google it and find definitions for it. Kind of like ain't. I was taught that it was not a word and I was not to use it. BUT, you find it in ALL DICTIONARIES.
Likewise, before me, the word cool referred ONLY to temperature. Now, a new definition of "Very Good" has been added.
The reason is that SOCIETY outweighed word Nazi's like yourself. The short text ppl has been around since at least the 60's, which is most likely older than you. More importantly, EVERYBODY who hits this site KNOWS what it means. Lack of knowledge does not equate to lack of intelligence. Sadly, from your single sentence, you appear to lack any real intelligence. My sig IS for ppl like u. Coward.
Up until 9/11, the nation's top computer security ppl were NSA. They had responsibility for it, which is why they created and pushed SEL. In addion, they insisted on running SECURED *NIX on all of their important systems. But then W and his staff created DHS and put them in charge of computer security. So far, that group has been a total set of f-ups. I used to work with several of those guys, and they were worthless back in 2000. Absolutely little to no real knowledge.
it is the toolbag, nuts, insulation, and even paint coming in the OPPOSITE direction that you think about. Of course, not much to worry about. If it hits you at 34000 mph in the core or helmet, I doubt that you would even know it.
I am pretty certain that ACLU will be all over this. BUT, keep in mind that IANAL. But gads, I hope so. This is insane that some judge would say that it is ok for police to do this. At the least, I would think that they would be required to have probable cause (at which point, citizens would be precluded from doing said actions). Otherwise, I can see NO reason why we citizens should not have as much freedom as police in this.
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Instead of seeing it jump directly to it, I would rather that the fleet be required to increase to that on a straight line yearly. IOW, it is better to require that the fleet average increases ~2mpg each year. If we wait until 2016 to increase it, then the incoming admin will destroy it as being bad for the economy. In addition, over the next 8 years, America will buy the OLD standard cars and they will remain for 10-20 years.
Hopefully, the dems will grow a pair and do what is right.
How is that anti-intellectual ? Perhaps you should visit a campus once. Note the large presence of, shall we say, people who exonerate people like massacrers like Che Guevara and blame all of society's ills on the military. Or whoever they are sure won't retaliate (note for example, the dead silence about Sri Lanka's misdeeds since that government sued and, shall we say, lightly persuaded, a BBC press team to leave).
/.. There was ZERO intelligence to be found in the original posting.
That same garbage occurred in the 60's/70's. And it is normally, the the same kind of idiot as the original poster was. You ignore them, or call them the idiots and fools that they all are (including the original poster).
In general, there were plenty of intellectuals that argue against the use of the military. Heck, Eisenhower HATED THE MILITARY. He viewed it as a needed evil, which it is. If we let our defense down, then we WILL be back in a world war. BTW, YOu ARE AWARE That the west has been giving aid to sri lanka's gov since we found out that Tamil Tigers aided AQ? Can one please be allowed to articulate a displeasure between certain extremely hypocritical portions of society ? The part that's hiding behind the biggest guns of the world screaming about how evil their government is, knowing both that said government won't retaliate and knowing full well that there are real problems in the world. The government of, oh, say Sudan, is a much, much bigger problem than even the worst ever US government. But only one of those gets any action.
I find this interesting in light of the two VERY DIFFERENT WARS that we are in. America and the west WERE going after terrorism. W and the neo-cons in ALL OF AMERICA'S name, invaded Iraq. Worse, he loaded the top with total IDIOTS, that forced us to occupy it and allowed AQ in there. How exactly is this worse than Sudan? Are THEY invading other countries around the world?
Look, I am about to submit more grant proposals to the DOD for some interesting items that I saw. If the idea has merit, That means that I will go to work on a DOD project, again. I have ZERO issues with that (since it is defense, I believe strongly in it). BUT, only an idiot can believe the phrase "YOu are either with us or against us" has an intelligence behind it. Worse, only a total idiot would believe that 100% of what the military AND ITS LEADERs does it right. There is plenty of GOOD CRITICISM to be found in both the university, the media AND even on
It would appear that the anti-intellectual knee jerk response posted first. I have worked for both DOD (via darpa grants) and NSA, and have to say that I like their response more than I like yours. Generally, they offer some form of insite that I might miss (but almost certainly do not agree with). OTH, your was just a waste of space and time.
THe fun part on this, is that most ppl miss the fact that W, Cheney, and Rove simply said; I do not remember. I suspect that scooter PROBABLY was the ONLY one that had little to nothing to do with that. Keep in mind that just because somebody else MAY have said something, does not mean thatthe others did not commit treason.
Hmmm. Was duracell used on that electric wrench?
IIRC, Gartner was one of the first to say that all shops should move to Vista. Then, when it came out and had a poor reviews, Then and ONLY THEN, did they say, that MAYBE you might not want to move to it. Gartner is attached to the front of Bill's and Chuck's Pants.
Had no intention of marriage to her. She got pregnant. On the day that my daughter born, I did common law marriage (Colorado). I gave her a HECK of a deal. Basically, bought her a home, gave her money for her all of debt, gave her nearly everything of mine (I offered her choice cars, she got nearly all of my furniture, my top computer, even some of my tools; I literally walked away with my tools, books, clothes, my leather sofa set (she hated it), multiple older computers, and sold my most paid off house to pay for all her debt). I thought that it was MORE than fair. Her GD lawyer talked her into trying for a WHOLE LOT MORE (in addition, to what she got, another 100K, which was more than what I was making at the time and pay for her lawyer).
I am since remarried to a women that I wished that I had known before my ex. We do not have an agreement, BUT, she is not the greedy or stupid type. She makes similar yearly to what I USED to make (6 figures). Thankfully, she is Indian and does not believe in divorce so works at the marriage. Love this one.
A big reason that America is in the shape we are, is because far too many idiots sue. And they sue, because some GD lawyer tells them that other party will settle. I went through a 4 year divorce because my ex was told that it would cost me 100K (on top of the money that I had already given her on a 1 year marriage) and that I would settle rather than fight it. It cost 60K+ (less than the 100K), but still, this was caused because the other lawyer pushed this crap.
Google, if you settle, it will keep coming at you and everybody else. The company owns the trademark. BUT, ALL OF US have the RIGHT to put up ads against it based on seeing the ad. DO NOT SETTLE.
Ahhh...the faithful. Even in the face of SCIENTIFIC evidence that the models are flawed and based on untested assumptions they cling to the conclusions. But we know that every OTHER factor used in the models are absolutely correct. It was just this one little thing we hadn't tested. Just like yesterday this was absolutely known.
Actually, the evidence is overwhelming that we are in global warming; Glaciers melting at a rate unknown. GLobal temp for 100+ years obviously climbing. Heck, I have been watching watching weather.com and comparing the actual to predicted daily temps and for the last 5 years, more than 98% of the time the actuals are ABOVE predicted. What I find interesting is that there are ppl that still claim that we are not undergoing global warming. Heck, just 10 years ago, nearly ALL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY said that it was not occurring. Now, the majority accept that it is occurring, but just not man made.
Now, as to the models, there are many factors in it. Things that are unknown have experiments being designed for it. This was one of them. There was underlying assumptions here that lead to others to design experiments to confirm it. And it did not. BUT, other aspects of the models have held up. I am sure that within a month, we will see what the models show.
In the end, does it really matter about the climate issues to you? Would you rather not be more concerned about the west depending on other ppl that want kill us (or at least control us)? WOuld it not make more sense to FINALLY get the F*&^ off of imported fossil fuel from countries that are actively working to control all other countries? And are you not concerned about the future for your kids if we continue to have massive economic deficits (trade deficits, not even counting fed. deficit)? This is in NOBODIES best interest. So skip all the garbage about climate and just look at this from a pure economic POV. It is in all of our best interest to quit burning fossil fuel, and use it for better items; Fertilizer; plastics; base chemicals; etc.
Do not put them everywhere. They really were not meant for it. 5 years ago, I moved many of my lights to CFL, but not all. The closet lights, the one in the crawl space are incandescent. Likewise, the ones over the mirrors are incandescents. I am using a single 40 W LED (only uses 2 watt of power) on the outside, as well as 3 LED hockey pucks to light a desk/hallway area. Finally, ALL of my Xmas lights are LED except for one in blow-up penguin as well as on a wreath that plugs into an X10 plug outside (need something to pull the power down, otherwise, I noticed that the LEDs are lit). Finally, I have incandescents in the fans and the garage door opener. In both cases, the motion will harm the lights.
Basically, use what is appropriate.
The interesting thing, is that at the end of the ice age, the bogland was all around the great lakes. Now, it is SO FAR NORTH. And if warming continues, bog will continue to move further north.
First, we have plenty of nuke fuel in America to handle our needs for hundreds of years (and that would be if we move to 100% nukes, which would be a mistake). Secondly, Australia and Canada are major holders of Uranium as well. As to lithium, Bolivia does currently have the largest found deposits, but we have only recently started looking. I have little doubts that more and bigger will be found. OPECs can be created out of anything. BUT, energy generation is what is important to ALL COUNTRIES. Once the west no longer imports large amounts of fuel, then our economy comes back, the invasions/occupations stop, and political blackmail stops as well. You have noticed that the west DOES pay attention to what Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and even Russia wants and does. Russia is a major player in many areas, but if not for oil, both Saudi Arabia and Venezuela would have ZERO abilities to blackmail.
The ONLY problem here, is that some folks want to make trillion-dollar adjustments to industry all over the world based on these models which are still in such a preliminary state.
Really? What makes them preliminary state? The simple fact is, that the majority of data that feeds these models ARE known. In fact, it was because of these models that this experiment was done. Will it change the models? I would think so. Would it change them DRASTICALLY? I seriously doubt it. The simple fact is, that these models have been being developed for over a couple of decades. The real problem is that they do not appear to match what is going on. They all seem to indicate that we have MUCH longer time. Every time they make a prediction of things to occur in 20-30 years, it keeps happening NOW.
As to the trillion dollar adjustments, had America followed Nixon/Ford/Carters lead back in the 70's, and pushed for being off oil/coal, we would not be in Iraq, likely not be in afghanistan, and not have the exchange deficit that we have. The vast majority of the wests security and economic issues can be tied DIRECTLY to our being dependent on the same price fuel that other countries are on.
Actually, we pay more than most because we clean it up more. While China surpassed us in CO2 emissions several years ago, they surpassed us nearly a decade ago in major pollutants. The west MUST get off of importing fossil fuel and skip this garbage about Cap/Trade. Instead, we need to put in place a cap at TODAY's amount (i.e. no more), and then put in a time progressive co2 tax on all goods, esp. imported goods.
Actually, I think that redhat AND Novell/SUSE would have the capability to sue them. Gartner can not really afford to have their reputation destroyed.
then Dengue does. The reason that I say that, is that I now suspect that there are MANY other virus that are transmitted with that bite. I am guessing that these are helping to transform us slowly across time. IOW, the virus that we have not detected at those that do not bring a symptom with them. We probably pick up new snip-its not just from other humans, but from other animals. What Gate's Foundation is looking to do, is wipe out the mosquitoes that bite humans. Any that learn to not bite humans, will instead survive. This may slow the evolution of man while other species continue.
have to say, I would be SHOCKED if TW would unload either MovieFone or Cable. And for just a couple of billions? Not a chance.
I doubt that it would take .38B to acquire AOL, let alone 3.8B.
Just thinking about it, SAP might be a target. BUT, in light of Oracle's buyout of Sun, I could see them going after several targets. Dell might be a better one to go after.
Odd. I can google it and find definitions for it. Kind of like ain't. I was taught that it was not a word and I was not to use it. BUT, you find it in ALL DICTIONARIES.
Likewise, before me, the word cool referred ONLY to temperature. Now, a new definition of "Very Good" has been added.
The reason is that SOCIETY outweighed word Nazi's like yourself. The short text ppl has been around since at least the 60's, which is most likely older than you. More importantly, EVERYBODY who hits this site KNOWS what it means. Lack of knowledge does not equate to lack of intelligence. Sadly, from your single sentence, you appear to lack any real intelligence. My sig IS for ppl like u. Coward.
Up until 9/11, the nation's top computer security ppl were NSA. They had responsibility for it, which is why they created and pushed SEL. In addion, they insisted on running SECURED *NIX on all of their important systems. But then W and his staff created DHS and put them in charge of computer security. So far, that group has been a total set of f-ups. I used to work with several of those guys, and they were worthless back in 2000. Absolutely little to no real knowledge.
It is time to put the NSA back in charge of this.
Because AT&T, Apple, Intel and MS pay LOTS of money to congressmen, as well as hire lots of ppl that worked in DOJ later on.
ok; thanx for the update. not a physicist.
You are talking about LAUNCHING a sat in retrograde. I am talking about parts coming off other launches, explosions, detonations, etc.
it is the toolbag, nuts, insulation, and even paint coming in the OPPOSITE direction that you think about. Of course, not much to worry about. If it hits you at 34000 mph in the core or helmet, I doubt that you would even know it.
I am pretty certain that ACLU will be all over this. BUT, keep in mind that IANAL. But gads, I hope so. This is insane that some judge would say that it is ok for police to do this. At the least, I would think that they would be required to have probable cause (at which point, citizens would be precluded from doing said actions). Otherwise, I can see NO reason why we citizens should not have as much freedom as police in this.