Actually, that is not true.
CHina is already above per capita that they need to be. Hell, they were above EU's average clear back in early 2010's, and continue to grow theirs. Yet, EU who is less than China, continues to work to drop theirs. Why? Because emissions are emissions.
The ONLY time that CHina flat lined was when their economy had crashed and they were lying about it (2014-6). But, they have NOT dropped emissions.
Now, for 2-3 years in a row, it is not only growing, but ACCELERATING. It is known that they will be at least 4.7%, and quite possibly over 7% growth this year. But, the problem is not due to their economy, but the growth in their COal plants. They are adding more coal plants from 2017-2020, than AMerica has.
As to India, thankfully, they ARE low. BUT, they need to remain low and can only do that by adding AE, nukes, geo-thermal, etc and not fossil fuel. But, last year, they went up up some 9%. Considering how low their total emission are, 9% is not huge. Still, India is working hard to move to AE and Nukes. For that, I applaud them.
But the only way that China is going to drop theirs is if we all say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
They do not have to drop emissions fast. They just have to head in the right direction. For 30 years, they have gone in the wrong direction.
Actually, it is easy to get them to take of the dead ones. While there is lumber to be made out of the timber, it can also be burned for electricity and heating. Colorado has several groups doing that now, and oddly, it is shipped to Europe and Mexico.
With that said, it is the Dems that are preventing the cutting of these trees. They say, it is not natural.
BIG mistake.
Trump is about to allow foresting through national forest, and Apparently, so is California. Apparently, this last fire that swept through dead pine and spruce killing ppl and destroying hollywood star's homes, has finally convinced dems to allow it. Sad.
uh, you really should be paying attention to our food. Have you wondered why our Apple Juice, honey, V8 juice now contains high levels of Lead, Mercury, Pesticides (even in ones that are marked organic ), fungicides, herbicides, etc, amongst other pollutants? Yeah. Got news for you. THis is the FASTEST way to figure out where our food is coming from.
Have you looked at our fish? It is not only mislabeled, but also loaded with all sorts of items that are not found in Alaska. That Salmon and 'Alaskan Cod' is showing up with a lot more mercury, and other pollutants than what the American ships pull in.
How about Dog/Cat food? Have you wondered why dogs are dying and it is being blamed on the food? It is because far too many ingredients come from CHina. We buy Merick since they promise to NEVER allow ingredients from China into their food.
DO NOT get me started on the FUCKING CHICKEN that KFC and Chick-fil-a sell. Yeah. These dirt bags are buying it processed in China while lying about it. So does Safeway. And that is just the ones that some of my microbio old classmates told me about.
Our food chain used to the the gem of the world back in the 40-70s. Come reagan, it started downwards because he gutted the inspectors, and with W and O, it went down even further . Our food chain has become a joke. It is above CHina's, but increasingly, not by much.
At least over there, they still shoot ppl for putting in poisons into their foods. In America, we call it entrepreneurial.
Fuck, Blue Buffalo still is adding ingredients from China, while lying through their fucking teeth.
As I pointed out to somebody else below, America, like most of the west, has gone down every year for the last 10, until this year.
China has grown every year ( or flattened for a couple of years ), for the last 30+ years.
And you think that planting a few trees is helping? Hmmm.
That is NOT true.
Until this year, America's emissions has gone down EACH YEAR. However, it did go up 3% this year. Yeah, China went up 4-7% (more likely 7-9, but whose counting).
The good news is that ours went up due to the economy, combined with our push for nat gas power plants unstead of nukes. We NEED to quit that and instead, push for SMRs like NuScale.
Not really.
I doubt that you have seen maps of America, let alone Europe. At one time, both areas were mostly forest. Even since I was born in 1959, the deforestation of America has been shocking.
Even now, pine beetles have destroyed our forests all through the west. BUT, rather than allow timber to be cut, and then re-start new plantings, the Dems have fought that. Horrible ideas.
We speak about the CO2 here, while at the same time, ignoring the vast quantities of forest that are dying. We need to re-plant these.
Hold on.
Look, you are correct to blast China for what they are doing to the air with coal.
BUT, by the same token, you have to give them credit for improving their forests.
These really will not help with CO2, but it WILL help absorb a lot of other pollution that CHina creates. For example, their SO2, lead, mercury, etc remains horrendous. This greening, if close to the cities, can help pull that out of the air and ground. And neither CHina's nor India's was natural. This was citizens planting.
OTOH, New England's was not. Basically, it was stripped of forests and now allowed time to re-grow. IOW, the reforesting actually has been natural, and man simply did not see economic reasons to rape/pillage at that time.
And BOTH capitalism and socialism work. America, and EVERY western nation has a mixture of both.
China's a mixture of Capitalism and Communism (in spite of what idiots claim).
We have Brazil clear cutting their forest so as to supply Europe with Beef, and CHina with exotic woods.
Then we have the west which has already done a number on our forest and are not replanting fast enough.
So, it is good to actually see both China and India showing the rest of the world what needs to happen.
It will not help that much with the CO2, but it will help absorb pollution, etc.
There is a place and time for anonymity. Having discussion like the above is not it. When anonymity is lost, ppl act nicer towards each other. Likewise, the lying and belligerent attitudes stop. Basically, when somebody values their ID, then and only then, do we see civility.
There are plenty of conversations where anonymity is needed. In fact, that tweet thread should have ppl requiring vetted certificate OR an upgraded by a number of vetted certificates of an anonymous posting. Finally, the vetting of ppl today is a joke. It really needs to be done in person, such as at the USPO, similar to obtaining a passport.
California have it in their grasp to be able to put in a TRUE high-speed with hyperloop. It would bring jobs, provide the fastest land transportation, and yet, these idiots are playing within tinker toys from other nations.
What a bunch of maroons.
shhhh. Few here have ever worked in intelligence (and it shows). This way, you can avoid dealing with total idiots.
As it is, there are many here that think that Putin is a communist, and that China is not.
As one that grew up with NASA (mercury, gemini, Apollo, & Skylab) and worked on the mars global surveyor, I can tell you that these men are doing this right. Congress has been worthless since the mid 90s. As such, NASA will not get us anywhere. But these men, combined with Bigelow, will get us there.
The reason is that if you set up a station on mars, you have to assume that you can have as much as 3-6 months outage due to dust storms.
As such, Amundsen–Scott offers the REAL extreme needed for testing (other than maybe putting a station on top of Everest or K2). Need real external power, so a SMALL 1MW nuclear power station really needs to be developed. In fact, that would be ideal for south pole so as to quit bringing diesel fuel for electricity.
Likewise, the ppl would have to explore in space suits and gear in 0-40 C. This would give a decent testing of the equipment.
Of course, doing similar in high planes desert would be smart as well, but that will only test a worn out dust.
relax bill. We will be hitting all of the above. We have to. Asteroids will be used for mining and ultimately for way stations. However, we still need to go to the moon and then mars. Both of these make sense.
Seriously, anybody that thought that this had a chance does not understand what is involved in space travel.
Right now, only 2 private ventures, Spacex and Blue Origin, are doing what is needed.
actually, it may create a reverse DDoS attack. After all, all the bots may go seeking to connected to the main server and since they can not, start tapping other servers as well.
As I mentioned below, there is near zero chance of Russia being 100% isolated. There will certainly be other lines that will connect from hidden points in the west, and then ran back to Russian SVR.
The interesting issue will be if some of the malware continues to work. That would say that the server is either outside of Russia, OR the aforementioned hidden points are running, and considered secured.
It is a near certainty that Russia has at least 100% more that connected quietly to the internet (probably follows large gas pipelines), that are for military use only.
Russia and China are working together. It makes sense to have similar first strike capabilities. And yes, this is a first strike type capability. Protecting your communications.
This is not about America selling goods. Apparently, not a one of our telephony companies produces 5G equipment, except the spec, and base chips. As such, you would be buying only EU and Japanese equipment. If produced in your nations, I'm sure it will be secured. This equipment is used by NATO. I suspect that NATO will refuse to use your lines, if they are rewarded as unsecured.
Seriously, I am amazed at some of the comments here.
Look, I buy a thing. It is mine. We own a Tesla. It is ours. We extended our warranty and even when it expires, we will continue with Tesla service. Why? Because they are excellent.
Obviously, if you root your car, then Tesla no longer has any responsibility to your. At that point, Tesla can, and should, shut down all communications to the car. That means that the telephony connection should be stopped. No more tracking. But, also no more internet/ip radio. Unless of course, they buy that from elsewhere.
All in all, it should be our choice to decide whether to root, and by the same token, it is then Tesla's freedom of choice as well, as to whether to support the vehicle or not.
Simple as that.
BTW, for those of you speaking of the dangers, I have seen more issues from mechanics than I have from Computer issues. I lost an entire wheel at the axle because the Honda mechanic did not put back the shear pin. In fact, it was because of that, that we ended up with a Tesla.
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Actually, that is not true.
CHina is already above per capita that they need to be. Hell, they were above EU's average clear back in early 2010's, and continue to grow theirs. Yet, EU who is less than China, continues to work to drop theirs. Why? Because emissions are emissions. The ONLY time that CHina flat lined was when their economy had crashed and they were lying about it (2014-6). But, they have NOT dropped emissions.
Now, for 2-3 years in a row, it is not only growing, but ACCELERATING. It is known that they will be at least 4.7%, and quite possibly over 7% growth this year. But, the problem is not due to their economy, but the growth in their COal plants. They are adding more coal plants from 2017-2020, than AMerica has.
As to India, thankfully, they ARE low. BUT, they need to remain low and can only do that by adding AE, nukes, geo-thermal, etc and not fossil fuel. But, last year, they went up up some 9%. Considering how low their total emission are, 9% is not huge. Still, India is working hard to move to AE and Nukes. For that, I applaud them.
But the only way that China is going to drop theirs is if we all say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. They do not have to drop emissions fast. They just have to head in the right direction. For 30 years, they have gone in the wrong direction.
Actually, it is easy to get them to take of the dead ones. While there is lumber to be made out of the timber, it can also be burned for electricity and heating. Colorado has several groups doing that now, and oddly, it is shipped to Europe and Mexico.
I am not GOP. I am GDI.
With that said, it is the Dems that are preventing the cutting of these trees. They say, it is not natural.
BIG mistake.
Trump is about to allow foresting through national forest, and Apparently, so is California. Apparently, this last fire that swept through dead pine and spruce killing ppl and destroying hollywood star's homes, has finally convinced dems to allow it. Sad.
uh, you really should be paying attention to our food. Have you wondered why our Apple Juice, honey, V8 juice now contains high levels of Lead, Mercury, Pesticides (even in ones that are marked organic ), fungicides, herbicides, etc, amongst other pollutants? Yeah. Got news for you. THis is the FASTEST way to figure out where our food is coming from.
Have you looked at our fish? It is not only mislabeled, but also loaded with all sorts of items that are not found in Alaska. That Salmon and 'Alaskan Cod' is showing up with a lot more mercury, and other pollutants than what the American ships pull in.
How about Dog/Cat food? Have you wondered why dogs are dying and it is being blamed on the food? It is because far too many ingredients come from CHina. We buy Merick since they promise to NEVER allow ingredients from China into their food.
DO NOT get me started on the FUCKING CHICKEN that KFC and Chick-fil-a sell. Yeah. These dirt bags are buying it processed in China while lying about it. So does Safeway. And that is just the ones that some of my microbio old classmates told me about.
Our food chain used to the the gem of the world back in the 40-70s. Come reagan, it started downwards because he gutted the inspectors, and with W and O, it went down even further . Our food chain has become a joke. It is above CHina's, but increasingly, not by much.
At least over there, they still shoot ppl for putting in poisons into their foods. In America, we call it entrepreneurial.
Fuck, Blue Buffalo still is adding ingredients from China, while lying through their fucking teeth.
As I pointed out to somebody else below, America, like most of the west, has gone down every year for the last 10, until this year.
China has grown every year ( or flattened for a couple of years ), for the last 30+ years.
And you think that planting a few trees is helping? Hmmm.
That is NOT true.
Until this year, America's emissions has gone down EACH YEAR. However, it did go up 3% this year. Yeah, China went up 4-7% (more likely 7-9, but whose counting).
The good news is that ours went up due to the economy, combined with our push for nat gas power plants unstead of nukes. We NEED to quit that and instead, push for SMRs like NuScale.
BTW, here are some interesting articles and maps.
Not really.
I doubt that you have seen maps of America, let alone Europe. At one time, both areas were mostly forest. Even since I was born in 1959, the deforestation of America has been shocking.
Even now, pine beetles have destroyed our forests all through the west. BUT, rather than allow timber to be cut, and then re-start new plantings, the Dems have fought that. Horrible ideas.
We speak about the CO2 here, while at the same time, ignoring the vast quantities of forest that are dying. We need to re-plant these.
Hold on.
Look, you are correct to blast China for what they are doing to the air with coal.
BUT, by the same token, you have to give them credit for improving their forests.
These really will not help with CO2, but it WILL help absorb a lot of other pollution that CHina creates. For example, their SO2, lead, mercury, etc remains horrendous. This greening, if close to the cities, can help pull that out of the air and ground. And neither CHina's nor India's was natural. This was citizens planting.
OTOH, New England's was not. Basically, it was stripped of forests and now allowed time to re-grow. IOW, the reforesting actually has been natural, and man simply did not see economic reasons to rape/pillage at that time.
And BOTH capitalism and socialism work. America, and EVERY western nation has a mixture of both.
China's a mixture of Capitalism and Communism (in spite of what idiots claim).
We have Brazil clear cutting their forest so as to supply Europe with Beef, and CHina with exotic woods.
Then we have the west which has already done a number on our forest and are not replanting fast enough.
So, it is good to actually see both China and India showing the rest of the world what needs to happen.
It will not help that much with the CO2, but it will help absorb pollution, etc.
There is a place and time for anonymity. Having discussion like the above is not it. When anonymity is lost, ppl act nicer towards each other. Likewise, the lying and belligerent attitudes stop. Basically, when somebody values their ID, then and only then, do we see civility. There are plenty of conversations where anonymity is needed. In fact, that tweet thread should have ppl requiring vetted certificate OR an upgraded by a number of vetted certificates of an anonymous posting. Finally, the vetting of ppl today is a joke. It really needs to be done in person, such as at the USPO, similar to obtaining a passport.
California have it in their grasp to be able to put in a TRUE high-speed with hyperloop. It would bring jobs, provide the fastest land transportation, and yet, these idiots are playing within tinker toys from other nations.
What a bunch of maroons.
Health care is about insurance and competition. No R&D will help there.
Infrastructure is about funding that the GOP is afraid to do, and the dems are too stupid to figure out their golden opportunities are NOW.
And what is needed is CLEAN energy. Germany has shown that LOTS of renewable is financially foolish.
So, nope. Robotics, AI and Space (and maybe proper funding for Nuclear and Geothermal).
shhhh. Few here have ever worked in intelligence (and it shows). This way, you can avoid dealing with total idiots.
As it is, there are many here that think that Putin is a communist, and that China is not.
As one that grew up with NASA (mercury, gemini, Apollo, & Skylab) and worked on the mars global surveyor, I can tell you that these men are doing this right. Congress has been worthless since the mid 90s. As such, NASA will not get us anywhere. But these men, combined with Bigelow, will get us there.
The reason is that if you set up a station on mars, you have to assume that you can have as much as 3-6 months outage due to dust storms.
As such, Amundsen–Scott offers the REAL extreme needed for testing (other than maybe putting a station on top of Everest or K2). Need real external power, so a SMALL 1MW nuclear power station really needs to be developed. In fact, that would be ideal for south pole so as to quit bringing diesel fuel for electricity.
Likewise, the ppl would have to explore in space suits and gear in 0-40 C. This would give a decent testing of the equipment.
Of course, doing similar in high planes desert would be smart as well, but that will only test a worn out dust.
relax bill. We will be hitting all of the above. We have to. Asteroids will be used for mining and ultimately for way stations. However, we still need to go to the moon and then mars. Both of these make sense.
Seriously, anybody that thought that this had a chance does not understand what is involved in space travel.
Right now, only 2 private ventures, Spacex and Blue Origin, are doing what is needed.
Seriously, Robotics, AI, and Space are exactly where we need major pushes.
actually, it may create a reverse DDoS attack. After all, all the bots may go seeking to connected to the main server and since they can not, start tapping other servers as well.
As I mentioned below, there is near zero chance of Russia being 100% isolated. There will certainly be other lines that will connect from hidden points in the west, and then ran back to Russian SVR.
The interesting issue will be if some of the malware continues to work. That would say that the server is either outside of Russia, OR the aforementioned hidden points are running, and considered secured.
It is a near certainty that Russia has at least 100% more that connected quietly to the internet (probably follows large gas pipelines), that are for military use only.
Russia and China are working together. It makes sense to have similar first strike capabilities. And yes, this is a first strike type capability. Protecting your communications.
This is not about America selling goods. Apparently, not a one of our telephony companies produces 5G equipment, except the spec, and base chips. As such, you would be buying only EU and Japanese equipment. If produced in your nations, I'm sure it will be secured. This equipment is used by NATO. I suspect that NATO will refuse to use your lines, if they are rewarded as unsecured.
Seriously, I am amazed at some of the comments here.
Look, I buy a thing. It is mine. We own a Tesla. It is ours. We extended our warranty and even when it expires, we will continue with Tesla service. Why? Because they are excellent.
Obviously, if you root your car, then Tesla no longer has any responsibility to your. At that point, Tesla can, and should, shut down all communications to the car. That means that the telephony connection should be stopped. No more tracking. But, also no more internet/ip radio. Unless of course, they buy that from elsewhere. All in all, it should be our choice to decide whether to root, and by the same token, it is then Tesla's freedom of choice as well, as to whether to support the vehicle or not.
Simple as that.
BTW, for those of you speaking of the dangers, I have seen more issues from mechanics than I have from Computer issues. I lost an entire wheel at the axle because the Honda mechanic did not put back the shear pin. In fact, it was because of that, that we ended up with a Tesla.