The word "misappropiation" in the title of the bill is the key thing here.
Yes, was just thinking that labeling it a "Misappropriation Act" had to be the most accurate title I've seen on a bill in years. For an instant even entertained the thought that some congress-critter might finally be paying lip service to a truth-in-advertising law. Only real question, were they talking taxes, another IP law, or what?
Ancient memory, wasn't defending nor attacking. Iirc some of his notions were well out there, so no surprise if any such have since been proven wrong. Otoh among his "impossible wild radical crank" predictions was that Venus would be retrograde and much hotter than expected, since proven to be correct. Right or wrong, have seen him referred to as a 'Father of Catastrophism', which arguably includes the whole "meteors wiped out the dinosaurs" bit.
A hotly denied ongoing since forever he got dead right.. so-called "scientists" who discard data that doesn't fit their pet theories instead of changing the theory to fit the data. Some today term that junk science.
Side note, even if Velikovsky had been wrong in every particular, the treatment he received at the time was shameful, disgusting, roughly equivalent to modern political attack ads. Such has no valid place in any scientific discipline.
Immanuel Velikovsky. His first three books were published in the '50's. I ran across them in the late '70's. His basic thesis was that some ancient myths may be based on actual observed events. Result, he was widely reviled as a crank by defenders of the Holy Writ of both Organized Religion and Organized Science, and apparently still is today. Subsequent discoveries have proven he was wrong about a few things, right about a few others.
Iirc (from over 20 years ago), he never suggested the Noah's flood story as written was accurate. More like.. point out the widespread prevalence and similarities of flood stories in various cultures, plus something such as the existence of seashell bearing strata found high in the Andes, how that didn't fit current theory (Darwinian-type gradualism), suggest a possible explanation that included the anomalous data rather than ignoring it.
Well, not really. Most of the folks around me have developed the habit of reboot when they arrive, reboot again when they get back from lunch. Some don't; several times a day I hear 'unkind words', and soon after the startup sound.
(Not trying to be funny, not intended as flamebait, just how it is.)
Requiring admins to use XP and then not letting them have admin on their own boxes.. could be ignrance, could be insanity, could be you are being set up as scapegoats for when, not if, things fall apart. Expect y'all already have, update your resumes, immediately start looking for another job.
If possible set up a Linux box with plenty of ram on which you do have root as a vnc server. Insist the XP boxes have a vnc client such as tightvnc and a terminal client such as putty. Use the XP box as essentially an expensive dumb terminal to a vnc session, with the terminal as a backup in case of a problem. Do all of your email, web, etc on the server via vnc.
I set up our development teams this way. Productivity increase was such that several managers have since had me to help set up their teams the same way.
Curious, when will MS announce they are indemnifying IE users from Eolas? Or Windows users from SCO for that matter (eg. errno.h)? Ditto for.. expect there are lawsuits pending against Apple, Oracle, Adobe, Sun, HP, etc, etc. Not just picking on MS, any other software.
Point: Software normally has no indemnification and no warranty. Zero, zip, nada (read the EULA sometime). So why is it considered such a big issue in this case, but none of the others?
nessus needs a server (nessusd) running on the machine that is being checked.
Um, no, nessud runs on the machine that is doing the checking. Machine being checked doesn't need to be running anything special, just up and accessible.
Re g*parent, seems a public site like that would be a great thing, for the spammers. User enters an IP to scan, say 1 in 1000 with a vuln they report as "none found", then use. Now, a non-public web interface equivalent to the nessus client program, for use on an internal-only server, for eg SOHO use.. hmm. I see potential problems, but might not be such a bad idea at that.
Driving to work today, found myself in the middle lane behind a guy shaving with one hand, on a cell with the other. Refuse to speculate on what was manipulating the steering wheel. Decided to change way over to that lane. (yes, he was blonde.)
Stuck with one employer for 14+ years. Quit in '98. Four of the five jobs since were via the job boards named. None were jobs for which I had applied (100+). For each some headhunter searched the board for resumes to match a position that had not yet been posted, found mine, called me.
The fifth? Personal reference from someone who knew my current contract was ending, for a position that had not yet been submitted to the headhunters. (He overheard HR discussing it, spoke up, they called.)
Ymmv. For me the job boards have been better than every other method.
Much good here throughout, positive and negative, even browsing at (-1). Might be the best 'Ask Slashdot' response I've ever read. Did not see explicitly mentioned (maybe they're too obvious)..
Qualities: Would you want yourself as a team lead? Answer from both viewpoints, team and manager. Rephrased, would you want to have yourself as a boss? As an employee? If you accept the position, don't agonize over it, but do repeat periodically. If the answer ever comes out 'no', deal with it, asap.
Experience: Team leads catch flak from both sides. Some gripes won't be your fault and there won't be squat you can do about it. You will still have to swallow it and, well, maybe not smile, but get on with the job anyway. If you can't accept that up front, don't take the carrot.
CAN-SPAM appears to be working much as designed and intended. Spam is now legal in the US. We get more, Congress-critters get less, they get to campaign that they took action, problem solved (hint: California law superseded).
What? You didn't honestly believe it would result in any less spam, did you?
.. without the rule of opt-in, you may as well not bother having an anti-spam law at all.... An anti-spam law ought to ensure that people do not receive spam. Period.
We agree. The Direct Marketing Ass. and some other businesses and groups do not. So, how many millions did you invest in bribes^w compaign contributions?
.. is it really so bad that you'd actually want to flog someone publicly?
Just hand me the whip.
Flogging will do for a mild sentence, suitable for first offense, for the major annoyance of getting an average of five spam messages per day. (Thousands? Where did I put that pocket nuke!).
Second offense? One day of hard prison time per spam message per recipient, with daily flogging. Yes, that means spamming the same 100 people with 10 different messages would result in 1,000 days of quality time with a "Big Bubba" roommate.
Third offense? Prison, life, daily flogging, plus spend one hour of each day locked in a small room, surrounded and bombarded by ads.
.. and I am merely annoyed. Try to imagine the thousands (or millions) who are seriously pissed.
Of course, you could set up your email server to detect this (mail coming from outside claiming to be from inside). Does Exchange Server provide this kind of functionality?
Don't know re Exchange, do know:
Postfix: default config
Sendmail: definitely, may be default config
Qmail, Exim: never tried, but probably
Guess: 80..95% of the email servers in use today can be easily config'd to reject this, and likely already are.
Some packages (like XFree) seem to take an eon or three; other responses give some why's. Otoh I've seen other packages appear in unstable timestamped within hours of being released, and days before being packaged for other dists. For the more adventurous there's generally something in
experimental.
Tomorrow's Darl quote, "Only a filthy Linux communist hippie terrorist could possibly interpret this as meaning something other than the next 90 business days, which is still several weeks away. And the unexpected Christmas vacation has set our plans back another 15 days." (hey, if they'll try it in court..)
The purpose of capitalism is to generate (suprise!) capital.
Sadly far too many equate the capital generation with accumulation. Both offer a larger slice of pie. The first attempts to grow the pie; my slice is bigger, don't much care that everyone else's is also. The second seems more concerned with having the largest slice, the "mine is bigger than yours" type. Then there are the truly spoiled brats determined to possess the entire pie at any cost.
Thank you for your spam. As one of the many Americans who believe that spammers are a somewhat lower life form than pedophiles, you can rest assured that the only vote you will receive from me is as a jury member in the felony trial you so clearly deserve.
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The word "misappropiation" in the title of the bill is the key thing here.
Yes, was just thinking that labeling it a "Misappropriation Act" had to be the most accurate title I've seen on a bill in years. For an instant even entertained the thought that some congress-critter might finally be paying lip service to a truth-in-advertising law. Only real question, were they talking taxes, another IP law, or what?
But that doesn't mean Velikovsky was right.
Ancient memory, wasn't defending nor attacking. Iirc some of his notions were well out there, so no surprise if any such have since been proven wrong. Otoh among his "impossible wild radical crank" predictions was that Venus would be retrograde and much hotter than expected, since proven to be correct. Right or wrong, have seen him referred to as a 'Father of Catastrophism', which arguably includes the whole "meteors wiped out the dinosaurs" bit.
A hotly denied ongoing since forever he got dead right .. so-called "scientists" who discard data that doesn't fit their pet theories instead of changing the theory to fit the data. Some today term that junk science.
Side note, even if Velikovsky had been wrong in every particular, the treatment he received at the time was shameful, disgusting, roughly equivalent to modern political attack ads. Such has no valid place in any scientific discipline.
Not sure who Velikovsky is ..
Immanuel Velikovsky. His first three books were published in the '50's. I ran across them in the late '70's. His basic thesis was that some ancient myths may be based on actual observed events. Result, he was widely reviled as a crank by defenders of the Holy Writ of both Organized Religion and Organized Science, and apparently still is today. Subsequent discoveries have proven he was wrong about a few things, right about a few others.
Iirc (from over 20 years ago), he never suggested the Noah's flood story as written was accurate. More like .. point out the widespread prevalence and similarities of flood stories in various cultures, plus something such as the existence of seashell bearing strata found high in the Andes, how that didn't fit current theory (Darwinian-type gradualism), suggest a possible explanation that included the anomalous data rather than ignoring it.
Been decades, wasn't the worldwide commonality of stories of an unusual flood one of Velikovsky's data points?
you have to shut down your computer every night
Well, not really. Most of the folks around me have developed the habit of reboot when they arrive, reboot again when they get back from lunch. Some don't; several times a day I hear 'unkind words', and soon after the startup sound.
(Not trying to be funny, not intended as flamebait, just how it is.)
Requiring admins to use XP and then not letting them have admin on their own boxes .. could be ignrance, could be insanity, could be you are being set up as scapegoats for when, not if, things fall apart. Expect y'all already have, update your resumes, immediately start looking for another job.
If possible set up a Linux box with plenty of ram on which you do have root as a vnc server. Insist the XP boxes have a vnc client such as tightvnc and a terminal client such as putty. Use the XP box as essentially an expensive dumb terminal to a vnc session, with the terminal as a backup in case of a problem. Do all of your email, web, etc on the server via vnc.
I set up our development teams this way. Productivity increase was such that several managers have since had me to help set up their teams the same way.
If the president were found banging a dead 14-year-old hooker in the Vatican ..
You left out the group that would blame it all on Clinton. Also, understand Ballmer normally handles that part of the business now. :))
Curious, when will MS announce they are indemnifying IE users from Eolas? Or Windows users from SCO for that matter (eg. errno.h)? Ditto for .. expect there are lawsuits pending against Apple, Oracle, Adobe, Sun, HP, etc, etc. Not just picking on MS, any other software.
Point: Software normally has no indemnification and no warranty. Zero, zip, nada (read the EULA sometime). So why is it considered such a big issue in this case, but none of the others?
If they are working with spammers, then I agree, mere jail is much too lenient. At the very least rig the cell to be constantly bombarded with ads.
nessus needs a server (nessusd) running on the machine that is being checked.
Um, no, nessud runs on the machine that is doing the checking. Machine being checked doesn't need to be running anything special, just up and accessible.
Re g*parent, seems a public site like that would be a great thing, for the spammers. User enters an IP to scan, say 1 in 1000 with a vuln they report as "none found", then use. Now, a non-public web interface equivalent to the nessus client program, for use on an internal-only server, for eg SOHO use .. hmm. I see potential problems, but might not be such a bad idea at that.
Driving to work today, found myself in the middle lane behind a guy shaving with one hand, on a cell with the other. Refuse to speculate on what was manipulating the steering wheel. Decided to change way over to that lane. (yes, he was blonde.)
Stuck with one employer for 14+ years. Quit in '98. Four of the five jobs since were via the job boards named. None were jobs for which I had applied (100+). For each some headhunter searched the board for resumes to match a position that had not yet been posted, found mine, called me.
The fifth? Personal reference from someone who knew my current contract was ending, for a position that had not yet been submitted to the headhunters. (He overheard HR discussing it, spoke up, they called.)
Ymmv. For me the job boards have been better than every other method.
Much good here throughout, positive and negative, even browsing at (-1). Might be the best 'Ask Slashdot' response I've ever read. Did not see explicitly mentioned (maybe they're too obvious) ..
Qualities: Would you want yourself as a team lead? Answer from both viewpoints, team and manager. Rephrased, would you want to have yourself as a boss? As an employee? If you accept the position, don't agonize over it, but do repeat periodically. If the answer ever comes out 'no', deal with it, asap.
Experience: Team leads catch flak from both sides. Some gripes won't be your fault and there won't be squat you can do about it. You will still have to swallow it and, well, maybe not smile, but get on with the job anyway. If you can't accept that up front, don't take the carrot.
CAN-SPAM appears to be working much as designed and intended. Spam is now legal in the US. We get more, Congress-critters get less, they get to campaign that they took action, problem solved (hint: California law superseded).
What? You didn't honestly believe it would result in any less spam, did you?
We agree. The Direct Marketing Ass. and some other businesses and groups do not. So, how many millions did you invest in bribes^w compaign contributions?
Just hand me the whip.
Flogging will do for a mild sentence, suitable for first offense, for the major annoyance of getting an average of five spam messages per day. (Thousands? Where did I put that pocket nuke!).
Second offense? One day of hard prison time per spam message per recipient, with daily flogging. Yes, that means spamming the same 100 people with 10 different messages would result in 1,000 days of quality time with a "Big Bubba" roommate.
Third offense? Prison, life, daily flogging, plus spend one hour of each day locked in a small room, surrounded and bombarded by ads.
.. and I am merely annoyed. Try to imagine the thousands (or millions) who are seriously pissed.
Of course, you could set up your email server to detect this (mail coming from outside claiming to be from inside). Does Exchange Server provide this kind of functionality?
Don't know re Exchange, do know:
Postfix: default config
Sendmail: definitely, may be default config
Qmail, Exim: never tried, but probably
Guess: 80..95% of the email servers in use today can be easily config'd to reject this, and likely already are.
Um, because some people actually like their daily viruses, random crashes, hourly reboots, scads of ads, ... ?
+ $0.02
Some packages (like XFree) seem to take an eon or three; other responses give some why's. Otoh I've seen other packages appear in unstable timestamped within hours of being released, and days before being packaged for other dists. For the more adventurous there's generally something in experimental.
Specifically, Daniel Stone's backport of 4.3, since June, on a laptop.
Finding more recent but unofficial packages for Debian isn't any more difficult than finding ones for Redhat.
Short answer, yes, for binary distribution it is that bad. For more than you want to know ..
Tomorrow's Darl quote, "Only a filthy Linux communist hippie terrorist could possibly interpret this as meaning something other than the next 90 business days, which is still several weeks away. And the unexpected Christmas vacation has set our plans back another 15 days." (hey, if they'll try it in court..)
The purpose of capitalism is to generate (suprise!) capital.
Sadly far too many equate the capital generation with accumulation. Both offer a larger slice of pie. The first attempts to grow the pie; my slice is bigger, don't much care that everyone else's is also. The second seems more concerned with having the largest slice, the "mine is bigger than yours" type. Then there are the truly spoiled brats determined to possess the entire pie at any cost.
Dear Candidate,
Thank you for your spam. As one of the many Americans who believe that spammers are a somewhat lower life form than pedophiles, you can rest assured that the only vote you will receive from me is as a jury member in the felony trial you so clearly deserve.
Regards,
Er, spelling? Clearly there is less practical difference than exists between ketchup and catsup.