The only problem with that interface is that it becomes tiresome after a short while. This is (one of) the reason for the failure of touchscreens as data input methods. People get tired of having their arms up in the air.
Finally? Brazil has had Conectiva Linux alive and well for a long time, using it on government infrastructure and beyond. I wish the US were as receptive of Open Source as Brazil is.
I myself am from Argentina, another country which should "get it" as much as Brazil does. I actually envy the guys.
No, actually it's pronounced like "Huarez", with the H as in "Hue" or "Huckleberry". The a is long as in "as", and the e is pronounced as in "essential". And yes, it is in Spanish (though I couldn't say where the guy is from).
So true. I was once on a train in Italy. This girl, seated 3 rows away, was organizing a birthday party. 15 people would attend. They would eat something that eludes me now. It was to be held at such and such restaurant. How do I know all of this? Because she was fucking shouting into her cellphone all the time. I swear, she was on the phone the entire trip.
Sorry, no. Not all the time. She spoke normally during those precious few milliseconds when she put down the phone and talked to her couple, so I couldn't hear that.
At some point, an old man (this is Italy, remember) got up and asked loudly: "Don't you realize you are busting everyone's balls with that damn little phone?
They got up, grabbed their stuff and moved to another wagon. She said "Bestie!" (Beasts).
does all the damage you could want. I can reinstall Mandrake in under an hour, and finish updating in under 5. I can't recover all my data, unless I had a backup. But i think the intersection between "people who open unknown attachments" and "people who do regular backup" is 0.
I get your point, but in this case this makes me doubt... These do not seem to be people who "don't know about computers". At least, the original poster doesn't make it clear:
"They knew the ip and the printer type, but they finally gave up and had to call IT for support."
I've read long and wide about hackers that love to code, that would give up their life or (involuntarily) sex for coding. Then I find such GUI nightmares as X-CD-Roaster. Things so clearly slapped onto a CLI interface you wonder why they bothered.
So my humble non coding advice is: if you think your code has to be clean and elegant, think the same of your UI. If you must have "code that just works", then do an UI that "just works". Be it CLI or GUI, Do your best..
To end this rant: If you do a GUI, please do study a bit about usability first. I know, it's cool to add another sub tab to make room for hte extra "frobnicate this file" option. Refrain from it. Paraphrasing Havoc Pennington "If your app eats your e-mail, you don't include a pref option just in case someone wants it to stop. You fix it".
Not to mention that with sentences such as "(Side note: parallel port? What year is it in the Raymond household?)" he's making fun of most of the Third World. You know, the ones that do not have all the money, and that think Open Source is a big advantage in terms of cost and narrowed "digital divide".
I'm not complaining at you, of course, I'm bitching at the author and at some people in the OS community (*Cough* Havoc "who needs transparent window moving? Everyone has a powerful CPU" Pennington *Cough*).
... And Google is my friend, yes. It was called the "water cure" or "extraordinary torment". Thirty pints of water forcibly administered to the victim.
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I once read a story by a Conan Doyle (do not know if it was Arthur or a relative) in which reference was made to a French torture that consisted in forcing the victim to drink (gulp actually, they used a funnel) great quantities of water until they confessed or died. Anybody can confirm this?
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I know... "supposably" is a word from a Friends episode. Joey thinks that the correct spelling is "supposably" and tries to convince himself and his friends.
Nevermind.
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Those hordes you talk about are hardly going to download and compile GNOME CVS in the first place. They'll get it from their $distro of choice, which will have packaged things according to their target (supposably, at least).
This presents the following problem: what about someone deliberately rigging a machine in a zone with a definite political preference (say, a county that always votes republicans)? This would eliminate all these votes, making it another way to tamper with the result.
Of course, no machine should be readied the day before the election, but still...
I've seen this argument (the parent's parent) and its rebuttal so many times, it's gotten oh so boring... How many times do people have to repeat Microsoft is _not_ just any common store, but a monopoly, and thus free market rules do not apply to them in exactly the same way before it sinks in?
RMS once said (or quoted, I don't know) "Your freedom to swing a punch ends at the tip of my nose". Nobody's "free" to do whatever he likes. Neither is or should be Microsoft.
Which is exactly the point he's trying to make in the article:
And a last big one: Sell a product people actually might need or want!
This, like the advice that came before it, is not really Linux-specific.
That's the point.
Linux users are like anyone else: If you have products they want and need; that work as promised; that have clear instructions provided; that are sold at a reasonable price and are marketed properly, they will buy from you.
But too many Linux products -- and computer products in general -- don't meet these basic expectations. It's no wonder most of the general public views all computer and computer-based product marketing with suspicion.
My native language is Spanish, but spending a lot of time being baby-sit by my grandparents made me learn Italian as a "mother-tongue" as well.
Growing up, it was much easier for me to take English and French classes because of this. I can now speak fluently in English, Italian and of course Spanish (sadly, I haven't had much practice of French, but what I knew did save my ass when traveling through France). Perhaps it's just me, but somehow I don't think so.
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The only problem with that interface is that it becomes tiresome after a short while. This is (one of) the reason for the failure of touchscreens as data input methods. People get tired of having their arms up in the air.
Finally, 3rd world countries are getting it!
Finally? Brazil has had Conectiva Linux alive and well for a long time, using it on government infrastructure and beyond. I wish the US were as receptive of Open Source as Brazil is.
I myself am from Argentina, another country which should "get it" as much as Brazil does. I actually envy the guys.
Three words for you: Duke Nukem Forever
Another three: The Phantom Console
Last three: The SCO trial (sure, it ain't a product, but still...)
No, actually it's pronounced like "Huarez", with the H as in "Hue" or "Huckleberry". The a is long as in "as", and the e is pronounced as in "essential". And yes, it is in Spanish (though I couldn't say where the guy is from).
So now you know.
You mean something like kimdaba, which you can get for free and comes included in your good ol' Mandrake 10 distro?
No need to go to best buy, fork over your money, etc.
Don't try to bend the thread to your whim. That's impossible. Instead, realize the truth: there is no thread.
So true. I was once on a train in Italy. This girl, seated 3 rows away, was organizing a birthday party. 15 people would attend. They would eat something that eludes me now. It was to be held at such and such restaurant. How do I know all of this? Because she was fucking shouting into her cellphone all the time. I swear, she was on the phone the entire trip.
Sorry, no. Not all the time. She spoke normally during those precious few milliseconds when she put down the phone and talked to her couple, so I couldn't hear that.
At some point, an old man (this is Italy, remember) got up and asked loudly: "Don't you realize you are busting everyone's balls with that damn little phone?
They got up, grabbed their stuff and moved to another wagon. She said "Bestie!" (Beasts).
As the other poster said:
does all the damage you could want. I can reinstall Mandrake in under an hour, and finish updating in under 5. I can't recover all my data, unless I had a backup. But i think the intersection between "people who open unknown attachments" and "people who do regular backup" is 0.
I get your point, but in this case this makes me doubt... These do not seem to be people who "don't know about computers". At least, the original poster doesn't make it clear:
"They knew the ip and the printer type, but they finally gave up and had to call IT for support."
I've read long and wide about hackers that love to code, that would give up their life or (involuntarily) sex for coding. Then I find such GUI nightmares as X-CD-Roaster. Things so clearly slapped onto a CLI interface you wonder why they bothered.
So my humble non coding advice is: if you think your code has to be clean and elegant, think the same of your UI. If you must have "code that just works", then do an UI that "just works". Be it CLI or GUI, Do your best..
To end this rant: If you do a GUI, please do study a bit about usability first. I know, it's cool to add another sub tab to make room for hte extra "frobnicate this file" option. Refrain from it. Paraphrasing Havoc Pennington "If your app eats your e-mail, you don't include a pref option just in case someone wants it to stop. You fix it".
Not to mention that with sentences such as "(Side note: parallel port? What year is it in the Raymond household?)" he's making fun of most of the Third World. You know, the ones that do not have all the money, and that think Open Source is a big advantage in terms of cost and narrowed "digital divide".
I'm not complaining at you, of course, I'm bitching at the author and at some people in the OS community (*Cough* Havoc "who needs transparent window moving? Everyone has a powerful CPU" Pennington *Cough*).
"Today, I saw three Mac OS X gurus" [...] "The problem isn't interface...its the inability of some people to understand how computers work"
So, were they "gurus" or "people who couldn't understand how computers work?"
You seem to be talking about different people in each paragraph...
It's called "not browsing /. on 01/04".
Yes, I'm not from the USA.
... And Google is my friend, yes. It was called the "water cure" or "extraordinary torment". Thirty pints of water forcibly administered to the victim.
I once read a story by a Conan Doyle (do not know if it was Arthur or a relative) in which reference was made to a French torture that consisted in forcing the victim to drink (gulp actually, they used a funnel) great quantities of water until they confessed or died. Anybody can confirm this?
I know... "supposably" is a word from a Friends episode. Joey thinks that the correct spelling is "supposably" and tries to convince himself and his friends.
Nevermind.
Those hordes you talk about are hardly going to download and compile GNOME CVS in the first place. They'll get it from their $distro of choice, which will have packaged things according to their target (supposably, at least).
This presents the following problem: what about someone deliberately rigging a machine in a zone with a definite political preference (say, a county that always votes republicans)? This would eliminate all these votes, making it another way to tamper with the result.
Of course, no machine should be readied the day before the election, but still...
I've seen this argument (the parent's parent) and its rebuttal so many times, it's gotten oh so boring... How many times do people have to repeat Microsoft is _not_ just any common store, but a monopoly, and thus free market rules do not apply to them in exactly the same way before it sinks in?
RMS once said (or quoted, I don't know) "Your freedom to swing a punch ends at the tip of my nose". Nobody's "free" to do whatever he likes. Neither is or should be Microsoft.
Bluefish?
Totem? (the gnomification of Xine)
Slowly pulling foot out of mouth "This ham newspaper is so readible!"
Just to fan the war:
Does that.
readible (adj.): from read + edible. Used by hungry readers to describe printed commestibles.
"This ham newspaper is so edible!
My native language is Spanish, but spending a lot of time being baby-sit by my grandparents made me learn Italian as a "mother-tongue" as well.
Growing up, it was much easier for me to take English and French classes because of this. I can now speak fluently in English, Italian and of course Spanish (sadly, I haven't had much practice of French, but what I knew did save my ass when traveling through France). Perhaps it's just me, but somehow I don't think so.