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Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community Ready For Download
joestar writes "The new Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community has just showed up on Mandrake's FTP mirrors and through Bittorrent. MandrakeClub Members benefit from extra CDs downloads and even a DVD ISO for Corporate Memberships! Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days." Update: 03/11 06:23 GMT by T : Cheap ISOs are also available from merchants like OSDisc.com and CheapBytes.
This is good and all, but when's longhorn comming out? And more importantly, who's going to have the torrent for it?
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
This guy is way out there
My Torrent is SOOO much faster /.
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THANKYOU
kids, this is a Great example of the good side of the
It has KDE 3.2, which is worth an upgrade all in itself! KDE 3.2 is a worth while upgrade, for any distro, not just Mandrake. I have it on Gentoo, and it sure kicks the crap out of XP on the dark side of my pc.
"...Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days."
What in sam hell is he saying? timothy, could you do your job as editor and edit some correct grammar into this fragment of a sentence?
--You will rephrase your request for me to go to hell. Goto statements are not acceptable programming constructs
Mdk 10 is here but will miss these:
kernel 2.6.4 out soon (not as big a deal)
Gnome 2.6 out soon
OpenOffice 1.1.1 out soon
KDE 3.2.1 out now
Gimp 2.0 out soon
etc, etc, etc.
It's hard to make a "splash" when the code is so old!
Is posting a .torrent of it, by someone who got it legal?
I mean, great most of Linux is GNU but doesn't Mandrake include some proprietary pieces that would make distributing it to us random hackers illegal, or is the restriction just caused by bandwidth considerations?
Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
I definitely prefer that to an increase of -10.00%!
I presume this means something along the lines of: more good news for the Mandrake community is that this new release has caused Mandrakesoft's stock to resume trading and is up 10% in three days.
Could the editors at least make sure the posts are readible?
From their features page:
System overview
Mandrakelinux 10.0 features the following software:
Kernel 2.6.3
XFree86 4.3
Glibc 2.3.3 with Native POSIX Threads Library (NPTL) support
GCC 3.3.2
Apache 2.0.48, Samba 3.0.2, MySQL 4.0.18
ProFTPD 1.2.9, Postfix 2.0.18, OpenSSH 3.6.1p2
KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4.2, IceWM 1.2.13
OpenOffice.org 1.1, KOffice 1.3, Gnumeric 1.2.6
Mozilla 1.6, The GIMP 1.2.5, XMMS 1.2.9
Thank you buddy, I figured it would be funny because Linux distros make constant releases while microsoft delays and delays and delays.
What Mandrake does is great; they produce a very nice desktop distribution, but it's no secret that their product tends to be incredibly buggy out of the box.
Let's hope this helps them improve the quality of their releases!
apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
First I wanted to be a chef. Then I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambitions have continued to grow ever since.
README
I am waiting on a non-numberd version. I almos bit with OS-X. But at the last second I realized it was a roman # 10. Close.
I've been a big fan of Mandrake since 5.3. I stuck with them through a few x.0 fiascos and rarely been affected by whatever mistakes people have discovered. That being said, what Mandrake's done with 10.0 and the idea of the community release is to shorten the beta and RC cycle down, releasing a distro that's "mostly ready" so the final bugs can be worked out before the "official" version. I translate that to the community release being just another release candidate and have no plans to install it on my regular use home system (as opposed to the beta testing system I normally leave on Cooker) until they get the rest of the kinks worked out.
In the meantime, that former Cooker system is compiling the kernel for a LiveCD / i686 Stage 3 Gentoo 2004.0 install. I look forward to seeing just how different these 2 distros are to use on a daily basis. (Save any stage 1 for real performance comments. I did that back when 1.4 was released and didn't want to sit around so long again.)
Based on 2.6.3, I think that this is the first distro to use the 2.6 series by defult. I could be mistaken though. Debian has had sid packages for 2.6 for a while.
Subject: mod -1 OFFTOPIC (Score:-1, Offtopic)
Hahahah... looks like you got your wish.
Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days." Nice editing job!
Free your ecomony and enact the FairTax
While I use Fedora, and previously RedHat, I do love to see someone mking money (or at least loosing less) on a Linux Marketshare.
The more money linux makes, the more money will get poured into it. So long as Linus doesn't sell out this is a good thing, and I like it.
Maybey its time to give Mandrake a try, hows the support (ie, is there an up2date style thing thats free like in fedora?)?
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My girlfriend (spare me the usual comments thankyou) just installed this before this even made the news - pure luck I guess. Anyway, she started the Chromi-something shooter game and it's dead slow - have to kill -9 just to get rid of it.
System is a Duron 900, 512Mb RAM and an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro.
Anyone?
it's in my head
Thanks for your valuable, and on topic post.
I'm sure the story was about MANDRAKE linux..
The stock had a negative increase of -10% meaning that it didn't go up by a negative number instead it did not go down by a number that was not negative - a reverse positive increase of -10%.
Looks pretty good. But are speedtouch modems supported automagically? I know several people that want to switch to Linux, but this is holding them back.
-- Fuck Beta
That's exactly what I mean. The odds are that anybodies submission (in this case my own post) will have grammatical errors. And in the case of front page stuff, don't paying customers get to look over the content first and raise flags if there are problems?
The recently used programs links, if you're talking about the K menu, are disabled by default in Mandrake. To enable them:
- Right click on the Panel (bar across the bottom), select "Configure Panel"
- On the window that pops up, click the Menus tab
- Towards the bottom of the pane, see "QuickStart Menu Items" for your options.
- Click OK/Apply.
You know, I really think Mandrake is a nice distribution. I even considered paying for a membership, untill I saw what they offer.
One thing is the level system in general, giving special access to those who pay more, but when I see what they are trying to tempt me with:
Silver members can download (...) PowerPack along with its numerous proprietary drivers and plugins.
Their bold, not mine. Whoopeedoo, pay extra to ENCOURAGE prorietary drivers. They are also proud to present "commercial applications which are normally only available in retail packs", various other discounts, "Direct-trading program for MandrakeSoft stock, plus access to real-time trading information", and with a GOLD membership (600 Euros a year) you can even see their webpages WITHOUT BANNER ADS!
It is of course good they are able to make some money to PAY people for the good work they are doing, but it should be possible without turning the whole thing into something ugly.
I shall go and tell the indestructible man that someone plans to murder him.
I'll answer a lot of these...
> SuSE Linux installs more easily,
That's in the eye of the beholder, but I'm happy with the Mandrake 10.0 install process. The only problem I have with it is the configuration of wireless cards in that it's fairly complicated as compared to others.
> has a few nice mods to KDE (including recently used programs' links, ALA Windows XP style)
IIRC, that's standard in KDE 3.2+. The Mandrake 10.0 distro that I'm running right now has the "Most Used Applications" as well as "Recently Used Programs." I don't think that's a SuSE-only mod.
> and has YaST, a package installer GUI for rpms.
urpmi, and the gui of it, gurpmi, as well as rpmdrake and mandrakeupdate. IMHO, it doesn't get easier than clicking on it through the mandrake control center.
> YaST also functions to easily change configurations for NICs, displays, TV tuner cards, and more.
I've been able to change from my display on my laptop to my tv screen flawlessly. Also, Mandrake appears to be able to handle a change of my hardware without blinking, provided that it is of course, supported. I don't think that it's a distro thing, much more than a kernel/module thing.
Now, I'm not here to play the "My distro can beat up your distro" game, but let's not imply that SuSE can do all of these things, and Mandrake can't
It's really cool that Mandrake has it first.
Sweet!
I hope someone puts that DVD ISO on p2p or a nice bittorrent.
Jaysyn
There is a war going on for your mind.
I'd prefer a better increase of +10.00000000000%
I apologize. As I said, "last I checked".
The fixes are in cooker (the development version, but frozzen at this time; so, basically, a 10.0 with bugfixes being tested).
...SNIP...
The mail:
Re: [Cooker] what about updates ?
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 13:16,
> > Here we go. kde 3.2.1 is out. Lots of fixes. Packages on the way ?
Cooker is frozen.
so we can't upload kde3.2.1.
But I added all critical fix into kde3.2.0 p ackage for cooker (look at all
changelogs)
For those not in the know, you can find more information on Fedora at their official website at Fedora.org
http://www.rayn.net . Funny. Stuff.
Well, KDE 3.2.0 is much faster than Windows XP. It is less laggy. This might be because of the pre-emptible kernel, though. (I never used previous versions of KDE.) KDE is also more customizable in its GUI behavior and the taskbar is movable. However, it is the little things that make this release better. The helper apps work. (Such as KLaptop.) The icons are neater.
And for a long while, XP was just cuter as an OS. Not anymore. KDE takes the crown. Little popping icons following the cursor. KDE has more options and behaviors, and also transparency on its taskbar. These are all configurable quite easily. You can't do these things with Windows XP.
Of course, you are running linux, so when you read about Windows vulnerabilities, you go to windowsupdate.com and remember that you are running linux.
Even after all this, you have to be careful setting it up. This is the greatest weakness with linux, in my opinion; it takes forever to set up. My system was really slow. And then I enabled DMA. Then I installed the nvidia drivers. And then I edited XF86Config-4 to make it actually use nvidia. (You have to disable "dri" under Modules.) Then you have to steal the windows fonts from your dual-boot partition and emerge the bitstream fonts. Then you have to edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file to set the default fonts so everything is just right.
However, these configuration problems are probably gentoo-specific, though. Someone should install Mandrake 10 and see if the configuration is better. (In my experience with Mandrake 9.2, it should be. The package manager is strong, too.) But gentoo is much better because everything you install on your system is up-to-date. Simply emerge sync, and emerge -u system. Ease of use is balanced against up-to-dateness. Hmm....
A NYC lawyer blogs. http://www.chuangblog.com/
In short, this is a final beta.
This sig no verb.
I really don't want to install 10.0 right now, since I'm happy with my 9.1 and 9.2 systems. But I've been trying various live cds (Knoppix for linux, and 3 or 4 FreeBSD or NetBSDs) on a PIII 650 that I need to switch over to a better OS than Win98. I'd sure like to try 10.0, but see no notice of a live version like they have for 9.2. Anyone know of any plans to release a bootable-doesn't-touch-the-hard-drive cd?
i get them all the time.
Now, I'm not here to play the "My distro can beat up your distro" game :) I am running Redhat 9 and have just tried SuSE on my desktop and was impressed by the hardware configuration functions compared to Redhat. Only problem I had was I could not get it to run other refresh rates than 60Hz on my monitor. Even when it claimed to do so, the info menu in my monitor still said 60, and that annoying flicker was painfull to look at.
No let's not.
When I read this I wanted to skip the rest of class for the day so I could rush home and get Mandrake 10.0. Honestly I'm a die hard Linux supporter but out of laziness I'm still only a newbie, Mandrake is easy for me to set everything I need to, the Internet connection sharing makes my tiny home network a breeze to run and I feel much more secure with the knowledge that I am impervious to script kiddies.
IMO Mandrake is going to become the desktop solution for windows migrators who need to have ease of use as much as anything else.
If Mandrake 10.0 has been advanced as much as 9.2 did from 9.1 then this dist should be getting damn near perfect for what I want. Not that 9.2 is all that far from it.
Sigh....if only I had a hill close enough by for me to shout from.
He was looking for the DVD instead..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Linux alone has so many distros to try on, while I welcome such variety and swift updates, I also find myself grasping for breath after a couple of such releases.
Yes, unlike most people, I'm still on a 56K dial-up connection.
so sometimes I find myself waiting for so-and-so releases to be available on a magazine CD before I do the 'upgrades', and we're talking about weeks if not months.
I'm wondering if there are others who are in the similar 56K boat like myself, and feel that another group is slowly pulling away from me.
I find it interesting that Mandrake has choosen to use such an old version. 3.8p1 was just released 2 weeks ago.
Perhaps the September 2003 string of 3.7 exploits scared them off.
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More importantly, what does "Community" mean in this Mandrake release? Is this a pre 10.0 release of some sort - made available to everyone for testing? Will there be a new 10.0 final after this made available only to club members for the first X number of weeks (like 9.2 was). I remember seeing that 10.0 Community as available only to club members just last week.
They should have called it Mandrake 100.0.
I got impatient and installed 9.2 last night.
Yes, and I got broadband. Had that till it got too expensive (and I lost my job). But before all that I ordered CD's from CheapBytes, or other distributors, and then Upgraded what was need.
with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days
...as opposed to an increase of -10.00%?
Wow maybe I'm just not a fan of Mandrake, the first time someone gave me a CD to help them install it I literally thought it was a prank someone was playing. I laugh at AOL commercials who have 9.0 version out with 'hundreds of new features' and just now realized how quickly linux versions jump numbers. Looked at an old Slackware disc I got from cheapbytes think it was 3.6 and now they're up to 9.0+ now, and have to ask myself have there really been that many huge changes to their distrobution to have it be a major release each time? I'm a big SuSE advocate and even with them wonder why it's 9.0 all of a sudden. Many of my machines are still running SuSE 7.2 and upgraded to that from 5.3 and 6.3.
10 years from now will we have SuSE 24.2?
I guess numbers mean squat to me anymore.
*DrugCheese rants*
was found by Geoff Harrison of enlightenment fame. We can all thank him for his wonderful work
I'm presently a Fedora user. I used to be a Mandrake user. I look at Mandrake as a distro that strives to be simple enough for a newbie/former-Windows user, but seems to lack good QA processes. I've followed Mandrake's releases enthusiastically for years (I think version 5(?) was the first one I tried) until I found that version 9 *still* took forever to automount data CDs. I'd put in a data CD, and Konqueror would freeze for several seconds (30+) when I would try to access it. And you know what this equates to for the average computer user? "Linux is slow," that's what. And that doesn't help anyone. Heck, I even gave Mandrake Move a try, and the problem's STILL there! Knoppix doesn't do it, so what gives?
Don't get me wrong; my whole world doesn't revolve around automount; it's just a good example of Mandrake's operations. I'm of the mind that if you're going to put a convenience feature in the software, for God's sake make it work right, or just leave it out! Like it or not, if you're trying to get Windows users to switch, you'll need a working automount for CDs--forcing them to learn to use mount on the command-line when they shouldn't have to is not an option if you're serious about user-friendliness.
Oh, and another thing that bugged me--they included this autorun program on the CD that would supposedly allow one to begin the Mandrake installation from Windows, but clicking the "install" button never did anything. Good way to persuade Windows users to use your product! Why even include it? Typical Mandrake. I posted this to the bug tracker (and found I wasn't the first), but even as of version 9--and I think 9.1--they still didn't fix it. So I never joined the Mandrake Club (I came close), and just stopped using Mandrake altogether, because it seemed to me they would probably never get their act together completely. Maybe now that they're trying to emulate Red Hat's business model they will be able to limp along a while longer. Right now I've got a Fedora Core 1 install that works great, and Mandrake is just something I'd rather forget.
I'm sorry if this info is of no use to anyone; mod me down as you see fit. Who knows, maybe all the stuff I mentioned is fixed in this new Community release? Maybe, but given Mandrake's track record, I doubt it.
Still wish we were allowed to use the bt network here. Times like these made me wish I went to a tech school. At least my chances of being understood might rise to 1% from 0.
SecondPageMedia - Wha
urpmi, and the gui of it, gurpmi, as well as rpmdrake and mandrakeupdate. IMHO, it doesn't get easier than clicking on it through the mandrake control center.
;-)
/etc/bashrc
/usr/sbin/urpmi.update -a
/usr/sbin/urpmi --auto-select --auto
/usr/sbin/urpmi and /usr/sbin/urpmi.update with appropriate exec rights.
;-)
yes, it does get easier
put in
function apt-me
{
}
add your user to the sudoers for
then do sudo apt-me and dare the Debian users
You, sir(?), are a Troll.
ok, then download all these components seperately, compile them, program an installer, hardware configuration utility and all the other mandrake-specific software developed to make it easy for the newbie to use and administer. prepare 3 to 4 iso images with a plethora of software, and you will have a modern distro of your own, and it won't cost you a dime.
I cannot you begrudge paying for all the work that the avarage distribution does to actually make all these peices of software work together and be easy to install and use.
you suck!
go steal yourself a copy of windowsxp and go away.
"- KDE-wide spell check .. very nice when typing in browser windows, etc.."
So can we expect good spelling from Slashdotters that post with Konqueror?
Anyway this has been true for quite some time (months).
Free upgrades. At least with Mandrake, why not release frequently? The upgrade is free and generally does include nice new features (and fancy KDE updates and such). This one inculdes the new kernel. If you like Mandrake and didn't wan't to do the full disk download I'd suggest doing an internet *upgrade* (ie point in to an active mirror and let it download only the updated files). If you'd like your system to simply do package updates try Mandrake cooker, bleeding edge with new software packages released continuously (I'm too chicken but have heard from at least one person who uses it).
;-)
And remember, before Windows XP (is that a numeral?) Windows was at 2000! WOW!
Anyhow, in all seriousness I think its just a Linux culture thing. Linux (and the family of accociated applications) has been under heavy development for year with exciting new changes coming out regulary. This isn't a conservative OS (yet). Look at BSD.
Quack, quack.
You don't pay for those software, you pay to have someone put it together for you. Hack, if you are willing to wait, you don't even have to pay or you can go with Linux from Scratch project and put it together yourself.
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You cannot delay forever software releases are hardly ever accurate, KDE 3.2 was originally on track to be released more than 3 months ago, should the distros have waited so long or was it better that they continued with their predictable release cycle? Furthermore, there are no worries, the rock solid version of 10.0 is sure to include these packages, it will probably be released in May with more packages than you have mentioned.
I just signed up last week after the announcement
of 10.0 being available to club members. So
I signed up and they charged my credit card
and haven't sent me my account/password. They
are also ignoring my emails. The FAQ states
they will send a login and password within
an hour if order via credit card. Am I missing
something here? Their site is horrible IMHO, to
difficult to find anything useful.
It's free, you moron.
3. accused of using bizarre, grey market, very old or very new hardware (none of that is true)
Well, if you're certain that all of the hardware you are working with is supposed to be supported, then I guess you just have bad luck. (Or maybe bad karma?)
Sucks to be you.
why was it stopped from trading before that?
I *just* finished downloading the MandrakeClub members-only version.
So much for that $60...
Or even browse eBay. That's how I got SuSE 8.1 and 8.2 when they came out. It's how I'd get Debian or Slackware if I wanted all 7 discs. It only costs a couple bucks and you don't need to spend hours downloading. No need to feel separated from the broadband folks :)
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For those people getting very low speed with torrents, you may want to visit laodux.com . They have Mandrake 10 Mirrors to download as fast as you can!
I tried Mandrake torrents many times and the speed was very slow. I finaly give up and had to pay $ to download it from loadux.com. The speed was better, I got arround 120KB/s but my DSL suppose to be 1MB down and 256KB/s up.
I like the idea, I would even be tempted to join if the fees were a little more reasonable. For example, $120 per year for Silver membership. That's more than I spend on MS OSes. I'm not going to pay through the nose for free software.
If Mandrake Club membership cost like $20 or $30 per year I'd probably join, but F no at the current pricing structure.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
Well after 15 minutes, I've downloaded 1.6M, uploaded 5.8M and I've only got 157 Hours to go....
My download rate is 7 kiB/s, my upload is 15.
I like the idea of Torrent, but it simply doesn't work.
The question is, what version will Mandrake be at in 10 years?
http://suprnova.festy.org/torrents/1355/Microsoft_ Windows_Longhorn_4053_crack_included_by_Torrent-Hi spania%5Bwww.torrent-hispania.cjb.net%5D.ISO.torre nt
enjoy...heh ;^)
Roses are red, violets are blue, most poems rhyme, but this one doesn't...
"I cannot you begrudge paying for all the work that the avarage distribution does to actually make all these peices of software work together and be easy to install and use."
You shouldn't look in the alt.binaries.warez.linux group then. The pay parts are there. Shock and horror.
That's what contrib is for
Forget thrust, drag, lift and weight. Airplanes fly because of money.
http://www.loadux.com
[100% ISO 646 Compliant]
SVM, ERGO MONSTRO.
Uh oh, some of those packages are getting close to my Gentoo box! Time to move to ~x86, I guess.
I don't like the 3 CD distros now a days. Is it really necessary to include the entire opensource library of apps? The CDs should give you the base OS and the major apps. The rest can be installed over the net. An OS installation shouldn't be more than 1 CD.
It will be nice when DVD-ROMS are as common as CD-ROMS, then this won't be a problem. Unless by then the OS is 2 or 3 DVDs. =)
WURD!!
I mean seriously 3 CDs is insane for this. Only reason why im bothering is because i want an easy install on my new Serial ATA box (and i hope this is easy). Other than that i'll be back to Slackware the second they release one that i can easily install it on my new machine.
I have installed too many distros in the time I have been using linux. Mandrake 9.1 w/ texstar's additions was one of my favorites. I was interested in trying out Mandrake's newest, and get some use out of my membership, so I downloaded the set.
/home partition.
Here are some of the nice things about it:
-I had to boot with cd 2, then put in cd 1.Cd 1 isn't bootable for me. Not a huge problem, but not good for a "newbie friendly" install.
-It would freeze unless I wiped out my
-After wiping 30 gigs of media, it froze randomly during "install system". Sometimes at 13 minutes, sometimes at 9 minutes, sometimes at 20 seconds. This is with four different sets of burned discs, from two different bittorrent downloads.
-It made me long for the ease of a gentoo install.
I have pretty basic hardware, nothing fancy. Anything else installs easily on it.
It is an embarassment to the linux community to have such a lousy installer unleashed on the public. I hope they publicly acknowledge the failings with this release, and get the isos fixed. It is a big disappointment. I should have known better than to try and leave wonderful Slackware.
Anyone here having these problems? I see in different Mandrake forums that people are.
Thanks,
Rich
Why ?
Because Mandrakesoft is running a more and more weird policy to force us to suscribe to their "club" - for which we'd have to pay $5 or $10 a month - and to systematically buy their product rather than downloading it.
For example, the new "release scheme" they're running for 10.0 is just a PR-disguise of something that actually amounts to
1) First, Community=Beta=Buggy version available in stores (only for brain-dead fanboys)
2) Then, Community=Beta=Buggy version available on BT/FTP
3) Then, Official=Stable version available in stores
4) Then, Download Edition = Castrated Edition on BT/FTP (but will you really want that ?)
Moreover, don't forget that *even* if you buy it, you don't get access to the upgrades. For this, you *have* to join the "club". Now this is getting more and more difficult to work around. I mean, as Mandrake adds more and more layers between the user and plain old UNIX, it's being more and more difficult to upgrade important pieces of software for a Mandrake system. If you want to update your kernel or your qt+kde system or (when the licences issues will be over...) your X server, unless you're very skilled, you'll have more and more problems to do it directly from the plain sources. Joining the club tends to be necessary. So here's an algorithm to help you choose your distro
War doesn't prove who's right, just who's left.
Have you tried contacting them? Email webmaster [at] mandrakeclub [dot] com and it's more like to be resolved. Seriously don't hang around on this (I know from experience). If you just complain on Slashdot your account may never be activated...
Just grab CD 1 and do a minimal install. Assuming you know the nams of the packages you want, you can (after configuring it) use yum to network install the rest once your system is up.
I'm fairly sure it is possible to do such minimal installs with Mandrake too (I've never tried) - just make sure you install only the minimum and be prepared for more hastle.
You clearly don't understand anything about Mandrake Linux.
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/. ???
You don't need to subscribe to the Club (there are benefits though).
You don't need to subscribe to an udpates service, all security and bugfix updates are free (ie they don't hold the security of your box to ransom).
You don't need to pay for upgrades if you don't want to (but there are some advantages
You don't need to be "very skilled" to update anything.
Have you heard of urpmi? Cooker? rpmdrake?
Do you know anything about Mandrake besides what you read on
I just wanted to get an FTP server going and in the end gave up and ran it on a copy of Win2K. Mandrake 7.2 was OK but 8 and 10 have been very flaky IME. Example behaviour - the installer asks you if you want the servers installing but doesn't install the configuration applet needed to set them up. And after the fourth reboot, KDE decided to use miniscule fonts for everything and didn't respond to any changes. No thanks.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
I've followed Mandrake's releases enthusiastically for years (I think version 5(?) was the first one I tried) until I found that version 9 *still* took forever to automount data CDs.
9.0 yes. 9.1 was better, 9.2 was excellent in this regard.
Of course, now many other distros (who you would not dare to criticise) use supermount-ng like Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 did.
And, maybe you missed the options in the Mandrake Control Center to disable supermount (for those people whose CD-ROM drives can't distinguish between an open tray and an empty drive).
Ahh, if you were having problems with MandrakeMove, then your CD-ROM drive *is* one of those that can't tell the difference. In Mandrake 10.0, the default has been changed. Supermount still works, but it won't try and close the tray on access (which is what was causing you problems) by default. And you should have been able to set this on 9.x anyway.
In the ISOs that were just released?
On the cooker mirrors?
On the stable mirrors that have just been updated?
Oh. Then tell me how you compile a new kernel on a system like mdk that has its own *modified* kernel.
# urpmi kernel-source
# less
(which will tell you to become root, change to
Sure, if you want to compile a vanilla kernel, you may have to be careful how you configure your system or look for patches for functionality you can't live without, but that's the same with any distro.
And for that you have to be a club member.
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If you aren't a club member, you don't get the rpm's, so urpmi doesn't help. Cooker is the development version. I want a stable version. The pretendingly stable version is already buggy enough.
I don't see where your misconception about RPMS only being available to Club members comes from. This whole thread is about the public release of the ISOs that were available to the Club members last week. There is a lag for "freeloaders", but that's not the same as being unavailable.
...down modded my last 5 posts for no good reason.
Well I'm glad you finally used all of your mod points up you prick.
Jaysyn
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How well does Linux 2.6.3, which distro builds on, support Serial ATA drives?
I'm using a Maxtor DiamondMax 9 Plus @ 160 GB. The mainboard is a Abit IS7 and I *think* the SATA controller is from SiliconImage.
When I recently tried out Knoppix, the entire OS (or at least the GUI) froze whenever I tried to access the auto-detected hard drive. However, it's based on 2.4.x and I have a feeling it was due to my SATA drive and lack of controller support.
I'm relatively new to Linux after a longish break, but was thinking about picking up on it again. But I don't really want to start by messing around with SATA drivers, as it seems to be both a rather complex task for a newbie and a risky task too, as I'm dealing with low-level stuff that I fear could corrupt data if done wrong.
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