I'm disgusted they would go and change something like this. It's just a way to get rid of old merchandise. I'm reminded of the way they used to sell that crappy ECC memory that wasn't ecc. Fake parity.
there is no hypocrisy. If you read the article/interview, they even say so. They never said that downloads were bad, they just wanted CONTROL over their own work.
Don't get me wrong, I hate their tactics, and they have damaged my fan relationship with them, but they aren't going against what they did earlier.
Production of 2003 Volkswagon Beetles is up infinity% from last year! Incredible!
Wireless is new. Since it didn't flop, of course they are going to manufacture more. Who cares if there was twice as much manufactured as last year? WHY IS THIS NEWSWORTHY??
I like the fact they use ID numbers rather than Nick's. I'd rather be acidrain than acidrain69 for my slashdot ID, and by the same token I'd ratehr have acidrain for my AIM ID than acid893215751297878912387231748291469823478. Stupid AOL. The whole point is, you don't NEED to remember the ID number, it's just for the system to index you. You can search for users by name and nick, and add accordingly. If you are indexing by nicks, you STILL have to remember a number, because half the time 100 people have that nick, so you have a number on the end.
Maybe you should just not lie to people, and you won't get in trouble for saying things. And as far as recording a phone call, you can damn well record a phone call, you just can't expect to use it for legal purposes without consent.
you can send a message to an offline user and they will get it when they login. You can't do that with AIM. AIM says it has that buddy bounce feature, but you still have to BE there to send a message when they get back. With ICQ you just send te message, leave your computer on, and even if you aren't there, ICQ will send the message to the recipient when they log in. I know my ICQ number. It's in the early 2 million range, I've been using it for a while. MOST of my friends are on AIM, but a sizeable minority are on ICQ.
AIM is just like any other stupid tech that won out. It won because people who didn't know better used it (because they have AOL). Except in this case there is no winner because AOL owns and operates them both:) Hopefully they will now take the best of both worlds and make a kickass client once and for all.
And this time I hope they clean up ICQ. Who the fuck thought up all those features!? Too many menus, too many stupid options. Emails, pagers, groups, retardedness. They should have just made it clean and simple.
I didn't write block letters until I got to college because no one could read my cursive. This is useless, who cares? I think they should continue to teach it, but it is completely a lost art. If you can suffer through a short note in handwriting, you can survive.
I'm not sure, but I think in that situation, since it is being filtered through one machine, that is for a really fat pipe but you can't handle the database queries. In that situation, the proxy would handle the net connections, but one machine would die under the DB load, so you distribute that over multiple machines. I don't think that would help here, because it's just a static page.
There is, but I don't quite understand how it works. And most of the time you only see it on huge servers, like Microsoft or Yahoo or Google. You get redirected to the appropriate IP to balance the load, I think it happens at the DNS level.
Well, actually they just slashdotted the host with the torrent file, not the actual distribution network. It's a small enough file, all they need to do it up the max links and put a REALLY simple HTML with a text link to the torrent file.
Wrong, because now that you are unemployed, you are competing against more people for fewer jobs, so IF you can get a job, then you'll be lucky enough to make less. And if you are the lucky one, then one other person who could have had that job is now the unlucky one. Before it was someone in another country, but now it is a lost american job.
Do you like the fact that your car gets 26 miles per gallon? Thank the Japanese for figuring out how to make fuel-efficient cars and hurting the American auto companies until they too learned how to adapt.
American cars can accomplish that. American carmakers are too busy hyping the SUV because they make more money off it. Go to Europe or Asia, you won't see roads or cars as big as they are here. There are american cars that get good gas mileage.
Like your Sony audio equipment? Like the fact that it's not twice as expensive? Again, thank Japan for finding out how to make stuff cheap.
I don't buy audio equipment.
And your ISP -- they're dirt cheap. If they had to use American workers for tech support, you'd better believe you wouldn't find access for $9.95 / month.
Ooops! You fucked up. I happen to work for one of the largest DSL providers in America, and I just HAPPEN to be tech support. Try again.
I try to avoid the "Everyone knows..." play in an argument unless it's really the case, and this is one such time: Any economist will tell you that free trade between nations is better, economically, for everyone involved. Adam Smith wrote long ago in Wealth of Nations that the only reasons to restrict trade were diplomatic and military; economically, it is always bad to "Buy American."
We have moved most of our manufacturing industry offshore. Now we are moving our tech offshore. Where do the workers go? Tell me how we benefit from massive unemployment? Don't give me the "any economist" bullshit. Tell me how they would answer that. Tell me who benefits, and who doesn't. Think for yourself, don't trust some idiot who is getting paid by said evil corp's to say things.
In what way does this benefit the US? Your neighbors are now out of work because they have been undercut by a third world country. The only thing this does to Americans is make corporate fatheads rich, and ruin the lives of everyone below. I don't give a shit about third world countries if we have to ruin our own to help them.
Um, your argument is totally retarded. I can understand that people make similar decisions. I'm fine with that. But people are still ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, and you seem to totally IGNORE that. If I go murder someone, I can't say "oh, anyone would have done it, just let me go, buh bye". It doesn't work that way. When these corp boards decide to fire their american workers and go offshore, those are AMERICAN LIVES they are ruining, and I want them held accountable for it. I recently read a story about Kevin Flanagan's suicide after being forced to train his foreign replacement at Bank of America. I only wish he could have taken out the people responsible for that decision. Well, FIRST I wish they never had MADE that decision, but since they went and did the evil thing, I wish they were dead too.
Here's a link to the story about Kevin Flanagan http://www.cwalocal4250.org/outsourcing/ binarydata/template%3Dcontent.pdf
these are the people you need to contact to get rid of your phone/email spam problems. why does your phone company sell your phone number, why do your credit card companies sell your telephone number? why does microcenter ask for my phone number for each purchase? does your isp sell your email address? aol does. mine doesn't.
As far as the phone goes, teh government is finally doing something about it on a national scale. I don't have a credit card anymore. As far as stores asking for mailing info, I decline that whenever possible. I don't know wether adelphia sells my email address, I don't use the acct that came with the service. I know my university acct doesn't sell my email, they have enough internal spam to send me, and people who are in the system still manage to log into the shell and leech directory listings.
how does my point fall apart? i don't claim that other non-consitutional laws are a good thing for our society. most of those laws you point to stem from protecting valid constitutional rights
By saying that capitalism works if left to itself. Harassment is illegal. If I want to be removed from a mailing list, and said entity manages to spam me some more, that is harassment.
the moment you came out of the womb you most likely became a part of our massive marketing society. the moment you started to watch semame street, barney or what ever else you parents put on the tube to shut up that damn crying baby (trust me, those shows certainly come in handy quite often).
I realize I became a part of it, but I never asked for spam in my inbox, in fact, I don't mind the spam, but at least give me a chance to opt-out. For me it was transformers, sessame st and some 80's anime.
i don't like spam, but this is not governement terrotory. their job is to protect the borders and to protect the rights of the citizens. no human rights have been violated.
Actually, this is perfect territory for the FTC or FCC. Telemarketters aren't supposed to call you back if you ask to be put on a Do-not-call list, email should work similarly.
capitalism does work in practice if left to work. this freaking governement interference in the market just wacks everything up and gives the public the impression that the gov't does really do something for them while raping all other rights and freedoms outlined in the constiution.
You had barely started talking and already your point falls apart. Monopoly practices? Indentured Servitude? Anti-union practices? Environmental laws? These are all things that are in place because of government.
guess what, if you don't give people a channel to contact you, they won't. go home and stay inside. stay off the internet and don't get the mail. disconnect your phone and get rid of the cable tv. hell dig a hole in the ground and crawl inside. it's your land you s/b free to do that. people won't come knocking on the entrance of your underground hole to "bother" you or steal your precious resources.
no, i don't like spam either, but people are going to contact you however you expose your self for contact. email, annoying phone calls, door visits, time share sharks while on vacations. they're all after you and your precious dollar and everything you do to thwart them away will make them find another way to come after your precious dollar.
I don't pay $35 a month for phone service so I can have a way for people to spam me acoustically. I don't pay $60 for net service so I can get even MORE advertisements for penis enlarging. It's like going in to a store to browse. Maybe I don't want to buy anything, or I'm looking for something specific that they don't have. I don't continuously walk IN and OUT of the store browsing, I do it ONCE and leave. I don't need 50 emails for home mortgages or penis enlarging, or 20 emails for the SAME DAMN PORN SITE, in the SAME DAMN LAYOUT. They could at LEAST try to change the format of the email the next time around.
when it's a p2p network it's ok to allow unregulated use, some of which might be ok, some might not. when it's a phone network, or an email communication channel, we want to the gov't to protect our rights all to hell? if you don't want spam; don't use email.
Since when did I agree to be a marketting target? It would be one thing if remove-me-from-further-emails links actually WORKED, because I would just remove myself.
You had a good argument until you brought this one up. How can the movie industry trust people watching a film when they are going to record it on a hani-cam and then release it on the WEB? Why should an 'organisation' have complete trust in users when this happens?
They can trust us because the VAST majority of the moviegoing population doesn't bring in handi-cams. They have more to worry about than the handi-cam toting society. Most of the time it comes from EMPLOYEES of the movie theatre, or a review copy, or someone internal to the project itself. I couldn't begin to give you statistics on how many movies are handi-cam to how many are employee theft related, but I'd say it's at least half either way. Maybe they should start with their OWN security before they think of pissing off their customers by invading their privacy.
Having metal detectors at theaters is really quite subtle these days (go through them boarding planes and to go to school in certain places), and stops it at the source, but off course only inital showings currently. Sure they should be targetting the people doing the illegal distrubtion, however this requires help and collaboration from law enforcement accross the globe... something that isn't going to happen anytime soon for 'bootleg' films.
There is no comparison here. Schools instituted this because kids are KILLING EACH OTHER AT ALARMING RATES. Not like it is an every day occurance, but it is still happening a lot more than it used to, especially with guns. As far as airports, those have been targets for hijackings and terrorism for decades. People put up with the hassle at airports and schools. Going to see a movie and being scanned because the paranoid corporation is afraid someone may buy a bootleg is out of line. I just hope no idiot terrorist decides to try to pull something at a movie theatre. The industry will jump at the chance to impose crap like this all in the name of security.
Well not everyone is a pirate, so my point is valid. They don't trust ANYONE if they have to resort to measures like that. People DO actually pay for the movies and music they use. Millions of people make a living in the entertainment industry.
Bottom line, if this ultimately makes the Internet a more secure place to do business, then I'm all for it. Digital signatures would be very cool once they are implemented on a global scale. No more paper filing, the trees would be happier:), and best of all, if this is implemented well, that bond of trust between businesses and consumers can be strengthened.
Bond of trust? What fairytale world are you living in? Is copyprotection a bond of trust? How come there are all these shitty CD's being released that won't play on computers? Is that the bond of trust you are talking about? How about the news that moviegoers are going to be metal-detected when going to see Finding Nemo? Is that trust?
Obviously what people do with Bittorrent is outside your control, but what do you think will happen in the coming months/years regarding the growing control methods of the **AA industries, and consumers needs for a flexible product? Do you have any suggestions on what should be done against piracy? As someone who created a product that provides a valuable service, where do you see bittorrent in all this?
Haven't they figured out yet that the people that download this crap will NEVER EVER actually buy the DVD release. If you're going to spend DAYS downloading some crappy copy over a P2P network rather than spend a lousy $10 to see it, then that's sad. My time is worth more than a $10 movie ticket. I'll see it in the theater and buy the DVD when it comes out.
Really? Then why did I spend over $180 on the Neon Genesis Evangelion DVD discs when I already owned bootleg copies of the subbed VCDS? Also, no one chained you to a chair and made you count bits while it downloaded. Normally you set something to download, put it in the background, and go DO SOMETHING ELSE.
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I'm disgusted they would go and change something like this. It's just a way to get rid of old merchandise. I'm reminded of the way they used to sell that crappy ECC memory that wasn't ecc. Fake parity.
there is no hypocrisy. If you read the article/interview, they even say so. They never said that downloads were bad, they just wanted CONTROL over their own work.
Don't get me wrong, I hate their tactics, and they have damaged my fan relationship with them, but they aren't going against what they did earlier.
Production of 2003 Volkswagon Beetles is up infinity% from last year! Incredible!
Wireless is new. Since it didn't flop, of course they are going to manufacture more. Who cares if there was twice as much manufactured as last year? WHY IS THIS NEWSWORTHY??
I like the fact they use ID numbers rather than Nick's. I'd rather be acidrain than acidrain69 for my slashdot ID, and by the same token I'd ratehr have acidrain for my AIM ID than acid893215751297878912387231748291469823478. Stupid AOL. The whole point is, you don't NEED to remember the ID number, it's just for the system to index you. You can search for users by name and nick, and add accordingly. If you are indexing by nicks, you STILL have to remember a number, because half the time 100 people have that nick, so you have a number on the end.
Maybe you should just not lie to people, and you won't get in trouble for saying things. And as far as recording a phone call, you can damn well record a phone call, you just can't expect to use it for legal purposes without consent.
Just hit CTRL-Enter, that will send the message, no tabbing around.
you can send a message to an offline user and they will get it when they login. You can't do that with AIM. AIM says it has that buddy bounce feature, but you still have to BE there to send a message when they get back. With ICQ you just send te message, leave your computer on, and even if you aren't there, ICQ will send the message to the recipient when they log in. I know my ICQ number. It's in the early 2 million range, I've been using it for a while. MOST of my friends are on AIM, but a sizeable minority are on ICQ.
:) Hopefully they will now take the best of both worlds and make a kickass client once and for all.
AIM is just like any other stupid tech that won out. It won because people who didn't know better used it (because they have AOL). Except in this case there is no winner because AOL owns and operates them both
And this time I hope they clean up ICQ. Who the fuck thought up all those features!? Too many menus, too many stupid options. Emails, pagers, groups, retardedness. They should have just made it clean and simple.
I didn't write block letters until I got to college because no one could read my cursive. This is useless, who cares? I think they should continue to teach it, but it is completely a lost art. If you can suffer through a short note in handwriting, you can survive.
I'm not sure, but I think in that situation, since it is being filtered through one machine, that is for a really fat pipe but you can't handle the database queries. In that situation, the proxy would handle the net connections, but one machine would die under the DB load, so you distribute that over multiple machines. I don't think that would help here, because it's just a static page.
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There is, but I don't quite understand how it works. And most of the time you only see it on huge servers, like Microsoft or Yahoo or Google. You get redirected to the appropriate IP to balance the load, I think it happens at the DNS level.
Well, actually they just slashdotted the host with the torrent file, not the actual distribution network. It's a small enough file, all they need to do it up the max links and put a REALLY simple HTML with a text link to the torrent file.
Wrong, because now that you are unemployed, you are competing against more people for fewer jobs, so IF you can get a job, then you'll be lucky enough to make less. And if you are the lucky one, then one other person who could have had that job is now the unlucky one. Before it was someone in another country, but now it is a lost american job.
I don't buy audio equipment.
Ooops! You fucked up. I happen to work for one of the largest DSL providers in America, and I just HAPPEN to be tech support. Try again.
We have moved most of our manufacturing industry offshore. Now we are moving our tech offshore. Where do the workers go? Tell me how we benefit from massive unemployment? Don't give me the "any economist" bullshit. Tell me how they would answer that. Tell me who benefits, and who doesn't. Think for yourself, don't trust some idiot who is getting paid by said evil corp's to say things.
In what way does this benefit the US? Your neighbors are now out of work because they have been undercut by a third world country. The only thing this does to Americans is make corporate fatheads rich, and ruin the lives of everyone below. I don't give a shit about third world countries if we have to ruin our own to help them.
Um, your argument is totally retarded. I can understand that people make similar decisions. I'm fine with that. But people are still ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, and you seem to totally IGNORE that. If I go murder someone, I can't say "oh, anyone would have done it, just let me go, buh bye". It doesn't work that way. When these corp boards decide to fire their american workers and go offshore, those are AMERICAN LIVES they are ruining, and I want them held accountable for it. I recently read a story about Kevin Flanagan's suicide after being forced to train his foreign replacement at Bank of America. I only wish he could have taken out the people responsible for that decision. Well, FIRST I wish they never had MADE that decision, but since they went and did the evil thing, I wish they were dead too.
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Here's a link to the story about Kevin Flanagan
http://www.cwalocal4250.org/outsourcing
By saying that capitalism works if left to itself. Harassment is illegal. If I want to be removed from a mailing list, and said entity manages to spam me some more, that is harassment.
I realize I became a part of it, but I never asked for spam in my inbox, in fact, I don't mind the spam, but at least give me a chance to opt-out. For me it was transformers, sessame st and some 80's anime.
Actually, this is perfect territory for the FTC or FCC. Telemarketters aren't supposed to call you back if you ask to be put on a Do-not-call list, email should work similarly.
I don't pay $35 a month for phone service so I can have a way for people to spam me acoustically. I don't pay $60 for net service so I can get even MORE advertisements for penis enlarging. It's like going in to a store to browse. Maybe I don't want to buy anything, or I'm looking for something specific that they don't have. I don't continuously walk IN and OUT of the store browsing, I do it ONCE and leave. I don't need 50 emails for home mortgages or penis enlarging, or 20 emails for the SAME DAMN PORN SITE, in the SAME DAMN LAYOUT. They could at LEAST try to change the format of the email the next time around.
Since when did I agree to be a marketting target? It would be one thing if remove-me-from-further-emails links actually WORKED, because I would just remove myself.
There is no comparison here. Schools instituted this because kids are KILLING EACH OTHER AT ALARMING RATES. Not like it is an every day occurance, but it is still happening a lot more than it used to, especially with guns. As far as airports, those have been targets for hijackings and terrorism for decades. People put up with the hassle at airports and schools. Going to see a movie and being scanned because the paranoid corporation is afraid someone may buy a bootleg is out of line. I just hope no idiot terrorist decides to try to pull something at a movie theatre. The industry will jump at the chance to impose crap like this all in the name of security.
Well not everyone is a pirate, so my point is valid. They don't trust ANYONE if they have to resort to measures like that. People DO actually pay for the movies and music they use. Millions of people make a living in the entertainment industry.
Um, I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but what did they have to do with the antitrust case and MS's current evil plots?
Bond of trust? What fairytale world are you living in? Is copyprotection a bond of trust? How come there are all these shitty CD's being released that won't play on computers? Is that the bond of trust you are talking about? How about the news that moviegoers are going to be metal-detected when going to see Finding Nemo? Is that trust?
Obviously what people do with Bittorrent is outside your control, but what do you think will happen in the coming months/years regarding the growing control methods of the **AA industries, and consumers needs for a flexible product? Do you have any suggestions on what should be done against piracy? As someone who created a product that provides a valuable service, where do you see bittorrent in all this?
Not true, PC's have had this for a while with CD & DVD drives. It's called CAV and CLV drives. Constant Linear Velocity or Constant Angular Velocity.
Really? Then why did I spend over $180 on the Neon Genesis Evangelion DVD discs when I already owned bootleg copies of the subbed VCDS? Also, no one chained you to a chair and made you count bits while it downloaded. Normally you set something to download, put it in the background, and go DO SOMETHING ELSE.