I respect rms for making a stand. He is an idealist. A utopian idealist. I socialist utopian idealist. I don't think his views fit in with reality, but I respect him for making a stand and his stance against DRM.
But as far as the article goes, if he "hasn't hacked any code in 10 years", and he decides to go with the crazy/draconian/save-us-from-drm v3, what is to stop anyone from just ignoring him? How is he relevant if he isn't contributing anymore? Who is likely to jump ship and stick with v3 as far as software goes? GCC? Obviously not the kernel itself. What about XOrg and X11? What other important packages (in the general sense) are out there that might suffer?
And I hate how the article says rms "attacks" companies to get them to open their proprietary code. They didn't have to use any GPL stuff. They are obligated to do it by the license that they agreed to.
Quite frankly, I think you need someone like rms in charge of something like this kind of a license. If you leave it to the corporations, it will not benefit anyone except that company. See Microsoft's "Shared Source" initiative.
Linux was not successful in *spite* of rms, but partially *because* of rms.
It really is GNU/Linux if it uses GNU components for a lot of the OS. Forbes author fails to realize that what he considers Linux is not just the Linux kernel, but an OS built of many tools.
Would be better spent lobbying on behalf of the public domain, to fix the insane amount of time that copyrights last. Lets see, you could try to fix the system, or maybe buy a few things, rewarding someone for a broken system.
Google HD Advance for a way to put PS2 games on a standard hard drive. It cuts down load times dramatically. I don't work for them (in fact I don't think they sell it anymore). You need either an older model PS2 (pre-slim), or a solder kit for the slim to attach an IDE connector.
As for metric, maybe if we had done it earlier last century, it would have been easy; but we are an arrogant bunch. I work in finance. It doesn't affect me either way. I know metric is sane. But there is a tremendous monetary cost involved in switching. May as well switch everyone to Dvorak while we're at it, for the amount of discomfort it would cause.
My only experience with buying air conditioners is in the US, for $100. I COULD go look up the conversion rate, but then I don't know anything about local freon laws, recycling pre-charges, etc. So I just gave MY experience and I will leave it up to the reader to find their own damn air conditioner.
As for Bush, TRUST me, we have been trying. I can't just "get rid of him". He's got Cheney. Darth Cheney! All he has to do is sneer at you, and you are forced to crawl under a rock for days. If you check the voting records, Bush didn't get more than half the votes in 2000 (should get rid of that Electoral College when we go metric), and he BARELY got more than half the votes in 2004. He has a crazy vocal minority that choose to overlook his many, many obvious faults. And they think they are martyrs and that the whole of mass media is a liberal freak show out to get them. And they want the government to raise their kids by forcing everyone else to live by their morals. I could go on and on.
Where do you live? What is it like there? Do they speak english? (I am horrible at learning new languages, I have tried) Are they taking escaping american immigrants, say, around 2008 if the re-thuglicans win again?
Even if the US didn't initiate MORE THAN HALF of the tests, it would STILL qualify as most, relatively speaking. When the next highest number is only 75% of the US total, and the 3rd place is 20%, I think that would easily qualify as "most" in normal conversation.
Where are the vast majority of Slashdot readers from? Vast majority of internet users for that matter?
It was tongue-in-cheek to ask him to use fahrenheit, don't get all bent out of shape, asshole.
Population wise we may be a small drop in the bucket, but we are a large part of the global economy (for better or worse, my opinion leads toward worse).
I don't see your dumb-ass coming up with any solution. My solution acknowledged his need to provide cooling to a server on the cheap. The cost of a window unit A/C is a tiny fraction of what you would pay for regular data center grade equipment, or full time use of air conditioning. The electricity cost would be low compared to the building's total electric usage.
But no, you shit on my idea and hide behind AC status.
Ok, this whole celcius thing, most of your audience is in the US. Write for your audience:)
So 95F, that's pretty warm.
Here is the SUPER cheap way. In the US, you can get a window unit air conditioner for under $100 US. Hook up some hoses and direct air directly into the server. Might have to open a panel or cut a hole in it. If you don't want to damage the server by cutting a whole in it, remove the panel and tape a piece of carboard over it to seal the air in (well, not seal, but at least allow the thermal design of the server to do it's job).
I didn't say it would look pretty, but it will work. Just have the A/C unit in a window.
If you need a server, part of the cost of a server is maintaining it. We have 4 2-post racks fulll of equipment at my workplace, and we use regular A/C and a free-standing APC unit in the server room.
Yeah, it's nice to be able to turn off the A/C, but maybe you should have factored equipment upkeep (power, cooling needs) into your server purchase, or just get it co-located if possible.
You can seal the site before detonation. It's not that difficult. The US has done it hundreds of times during the cold war and just before.
Also, the estimates (which vary according to which country you ask) are less than 1 kt. As far as nukes go, that is very tiny. How much rad would you expect from this? How deep was the explosion? I know that they registered seismic activity, which was how they knew it happened. How accurate can one guage depth using seismographic equipment?
For some perspective, the US 1954 Castle Bravo test was 15 MEGA tons, and it was a mistake, they were only expecting like 1/3rd of that. The "ruskies" detonated 50 Mt, the largest ever, in 1961. There has been over 2,000 nuclear tests by the world nuke powers since they began, most of them from the US.
I don't understand why prisons/prisoners aren't used for sorting and recycling, would it be done at a loss if you only pay pennies on the dollar for labor;) Nowdays they have them picking up litter for nothing and drop at a facility for someone to process at like $15+/hour
Oh sure, give them access to toxic materials and more sharp things. That might work for some community service or small-time stuff, but not a real prison.
"I'm not sure I agree with some of the conclusions here (you can buy iTunes cards at Walgreens), but it's an interesting discussion."
So you're saying that kids who (most of them) cannot drive a car, must go to a STORE, so they can go back home to buy things ONLINE. Why not just GO TO A LOCAL MUSIC STORE (while there are still some left).
No. Here's a better solution. Apple or somebody has to set up either prepaid accounts that parents can initiate for their kids, or quotas that their kids can't bypass.
I seem to remember a lot of probelms with early drives (not early as in when they started, but when they kind of took off for home use). Especially with Seagate drives. After they started getting into the several hundred meg range, up into the less than 100 gig range, I think those drives are more reliable than the 100+ gig drives.
Maybe not 100. Maybe 80, may 120, but somewhere right around there, I think desnity just got too high, and I'm afraid to replace my 80 gig drive before I get some kind of full backup system in place (aside from just backing up the irreplaceable stuff on CD/DVD)
If by the EXTREMELY slim chance they actually won, I vot ethat we next sue the US government over torture allegations, saying it lead to copycats in serial killers, child molesters, etc.
I don't think that San Andreas was dual layer. I'm pretty sure it was around the 4.3 gig limit for single discs. There wasn't any FMV in San Andreas, it was all polygons. Xenosaga was an example of a dual layer game for PS2, and I believe that size was mostly due to FMV (but I haven't played it, it's sitting on my shelf)
Or if you are in a situation where there are already un-labelled cables, use one of these. It's a tone generator and probe. Plug the generator in at your drop, and use the probe to find that cable on your panel. We have one of these that we paid $180 for, but the one on the link is cheaper. We also got a cable tester that also generates tones, so you can put the generator/tester at the drop, go to the panel, locate the cable with the probe, then plug in a receiver from the tester kit and it will tell you the status of the cable. It's just a tester, not a cable certifier. Those are crazy-expensive, and not necessary for my work.
(no affiliation with triangle cables, just the first link I googled)
If Sony deserved any of the credit, they would have made it themselves. Just because you have competition, doesn't mean they get credit for your success.
Sony has just specialized in trying to force crappy formats on people. I guess Memory Stick is kind-of, sort-of OK. It takes a decent 2nd or 3rd under Sandisk and possibly CF.
Oh yeah, and on the subject of memory stick, I can't leave out Magicgate. The crappy protection that makes it so you can't use 3rd party memory cards on the PS2.
"The latter two problems were solved with the slim PS2; the DVD player is WORLDS better, although the new remote is still PURE CRAP (try finding anything in the dark on that fucker) and it doesn't make that same horrible seeking noise, it makes a new, somewhat less horrible seeking noise:)"
Um, no, sorry. When the PSTwo came out there were issues with laser diodes frying or something. SONY quality has gone completely downhill, IMO.
In addition to the 2 PS2's I have with bad lasers (v4 and V7), and the one I repaired for my G/F (thank you, HDLoader!), and the several PS1's I've gone through, I also own a 5.1 head unit that decided to stop accepting commands from the remote just short of 1 year after purchase. The remote still controls the TV and VCR (which is like, 8 years old, GE brand), it just doesn't do anything to the Sony receiver. Lets see. Sony Discman: still works. But that was old-sony. New Sony makes junk that breaks when you look at it funny. I'm staring at a 20" Sony Trinitron CRT that periodically has color-smears, but that may be the cable, I'm not sure yet.
Rootkit-fiasco ATRAC Betamax MiniDisc MemoryStick
I just don't understand why they are still around. And I am a HUGE PS2 fan.
I wouldn't say they are headed down the toilet, but I expect they are in for a major shakeup and reoganization. Of course, they are a japanese company, and the Japanese are not so quick to replace management as the US, so we will see. If they were a completely american company, they would have gone through several CEOs by now.
"Can it be observed? Can you repeat it and document the results of the repetition?
Seriously. It's not testable. If it's not testable, it's not science."
Can you prove that you were born? That you are a human? No one had to be there to prove that you were born and are human. So the answer is yes, you can repeat and document the results.
"What theoretical physics is doing is gathering data, speculating about what *might* have happened, and calling it science. This is not the stuff of science. For that matter, creationists have the same data as naturalists and have a different, non-testable explanation. To me, it's the same thing, with just as much religious fervor. I don't claim that creationism is scientific in nature, although I do lend great credence to the ID argument - "look, all of the stuff around you is so complex it certainly appears to have been designed."
Actually, I'd say that IS science. You gather data and make a hypothesis, and test it. Or maybe I have my steps backwards and you make the hypothesis first, but regardless, it works either way. Previous information may lead you to propose a hypothesis, which may require more data-gathering. I don't see any evidence that says life is so complex it has to have been designed. There are simple systems that are easy to explain, there are hugely complex systems such as humans which ID people may want to believe are beyond explation, but that is just being short sighted. Just because something is complex doesn't automatically lead to design. If we don't destroy ourselves first, I think the human race will figure out all the secrets of life in the next century or two. Computers are getting to the point where it may be possible to model part or all of a complex system.
"My view is that God created the universe from nothing. Perhaps you don't find that believeable.
I can honestly say that I find the whole god-creation a possibility, but I can't help but look at how religion keeps trying to push the line in the sand back. Religion has done nothing in thousands of years to reveal the secrets of the world and the universe. "Oh, you proved that wrong? Well, maybe god is really here, and you just can't see him". Push the line back. The bible is full of so many ridiculous inconsistencies, it makes even the worst science book look like the irrefutable truth of everything. If there really is a god, I don't think it is even REMOTELY resembles anything in the bible/torah/koran etc.
"I find the idea that it all came from nothing by natural processes to be ridiculous. If matter is "all there is, all there ever was, and all that ever will be" then the universe should have equilibrated an eternity ago. All heat and motion and should have stopped virtually an infinite amount of time before you and I existed."
But you can demonstrate the distance between things and compute movement in the universe. If there was a big bang, why should it have equilibrated? Infinite time before we existed? What are you talking about? Every once in a while they come up with a new age for the universe. Can't say I understand any of it though.
"-- get your stickers out of my science book. I don't paste crap in your bible. Witty, but content-free."
It's called a 120 character limit. I couldn't explain all the ways the right wing is ruining the US in 1,000,000,000 characters.
"If you're saying that your science book reflects the same theological content as my Bible, then you're absolutely right and I'll keep my stickers off as long as you keep your theological tome out of the SCIENCE classroom."
I'm not saying a science book reflects any theological content. That is the point. I don't paste crap in your bible, there was enough in there to begin with; along with every other religious text written by people hallucinating in the desert. Nothing personal. It's just that aside from the whole "treat people as you want to be treated", there is nothing worthwhile in it. What theological tome am I trying to put in the classroom? Are you implying evolution is really theological in nature?
"Get your materialistic philosophy out of my science books and I'll stop trying to restrict that content. You think that the universe came from nothing via the Big Bang? You're free to believe that but since the scientific method can't be used to test that concept, it's not science and does not belong in science books. Evolution as a means of speciation? Perhaps that is current thinking in science, but I expect that to change in the next 50 years. This theory will be the 19th and 20th century's equivalent of "stone knives and bearskins" to quote Star Trek."
Do I believe it? No. I'm not convinced. But it's infinitely more believeable than the supernatural "you can't see me" explanation. Personally, I prefer the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory. And please explain why the scientific method can't be used to probe the origins of the universe? And what exactly do you expect to fill the role of evolution? I'm not denying it couldn't happen, but your statement wasn't witty, and it was definately content free. But you get +1 geek points for the star trek reference.
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I respect rms for making a stand. He is an idealist. A utopian idealist. I socialist utopian idealist. I don't think his views fit in with reality, but I respect him for making a stand and his stance against DRM.
But as far as the article goes, if he "hasn't hacked any code in 10 years", and he decides to go with the crazy/draconian/save-us-from-drm v3, what is to stop anyone from just ignoring him? How is he relevant if he isn't contributing anymore? Who is likely to jump ship and stick with v3 as far as software goes? GCC? Obviously not the kernel itself. What about XOrg and X11? What other important packages (in the general sense) are out there that might suffer?
And I hate how the article says rms "attacks" companies to get them to open their proprietary code. They didn't have to use any GPL stuff. They are obligated to do it by the license that they agreed to.
Quite frankly, I think you need someone like rms in charge of something like this kind of a license. If you leave it to the corporations, it will not benefit anyone except that company. See Microsoft's "Shared Source" initiative.
Linux was not successful in *spite* of rms, but partially *because* of rms.
It really is GNU/Linux if it uses GNU components for a lot of the OS. Forbes author fails to realize that what he considers Linux is not just the Linux kernel, but an OS built of many tools.
Don't eat it!
I remember a certain scene from a movie. There is a picture of the IE team farting on the cake at the bottom.
Would be better spent lobbying on behalf of the public domain, to fix the insane amount of time that copyrights last. Lets see, you could try to fix the system, or maybe buy a few things, rewarding someone for a broken system.
Google HD Advance for a way to put PS2 games on a standard hard drive. It cuts down load times dramatically. I don't work for them (in fact I don't think they sell it anymore). You need either an older model PS2 (pre-slim), or a solder kit for the slim to attach an IDE connector.
Sigh.
As for metric, maybe if we had done it earlier last century, it would have been easy; but we are an arrogant bunch. I work in finance. It doesn't affect me either way. I know metric is sane. But there is a tremendous monetary cost involved in switching. May as well switch everyone to Dvorak while we're at it, for the amount of discomfort it would cause.
My only experience with buying air conditioners is in the US, for $100. I COULD go look up the conversion rate, but then I don't know anything about local freon laws, recycling pre-charges, etc. So I just gave MY experience and I will leave it up to the reader to find their own damn air conditioner.
As for Bush, TRUST me, we have been trying. I can't just "get rid of him". He's got Cheney. Darth Cheney! All he has to do is sneer at you, and you are forced to crawl under a rock for days. If you check the voting records, Bush didn't get more than half the votes in 2000 (should get rid of that Electoral College when we go metric), and he BARELY got more than half the votes in 2004. He has a crazy vocal minority that choose to overlook his many, many obvious faults. And they think they are martyrs and that the whole of mass media is a liberal freak show out to get them. And they want the government to raise their kids by forcing everyone else to live by their morals. I could go on and on.
Where do you live? What is it like there? Do they speak english? (I am horrible at learning new languages, I have tried) Are they taking escaping american immigrants, say, around 2008 if the re-thuglicans win again?
Even if the US didn't initiate MORE THAN HALF of the tests, it would STILL qualify as most, relatively speaking. When the next highest number is only 75% of the US total, and the 3rd place is 20%, I think that would easily qualify as "most" in normal conversation.
What about my idea was "Made in the USA"?
Where are the vast majority of Slashdot readers from? Vast majority of internet users for that matter?
It was tongue-in-cheek to ask him to use fahrenheit, don't get all bent out of shape, asshole.
Population wise we may be a small drop in the bucket, but we are a large part of the global economy (for better or worse, my opinion leads toward worse).
I don't see your dumb-ass coming up with any solution. My solution acknowledged his need to provide cooling to a server on the cheap. The cost of a window unit A/C is a tiny fraction of what you would pay for regular data center grade equipment, or full time use of air conditioning. The electricity cost would be low compared to the building's total electric usage.
But no, you shit on my idea and hide behind AC status.
Ok, this whole celcius thing, most of your audience is in the US. Write for your audience :)
So 95F, that's pretty warm.
Here is the SUPER cheap way. In the US, you can get a window unit air conditioner for under $100 US. Hook up some hoses and direct air directly into the server. Might have to open a panel or cut a hole in it. If you don't want to damage the server by cutting a whole in it, remove the panel and tape a piece of carboard over it to seal the air in (well, not seal, but at least allow the thermal design of the server to do it's job).
I didn't say it would look pretty, but it will work. Just have the A/C unit in a window.
If you need a server, part of the cost of a server is maintaining it. We have 4 2-post racks fulll of equipment at my workplace, and we use regular A/C and a free-standing APC unit in the server room.
Yeah, it's nice to be able to turn off the A/C, but maybe you should have factored equipment upkeep (power, cooling needs) into your server purchase, or just get it co-located if possible.
And to expand on this, why do an underground test as opposed to atmospheric or underwater?
That would explain the planes from US/Japan in the area.
But at what distance would you expect to detect that? How has the weather played a factor in spreading it?
Obviously you seal it because of the radiation. Better to keep as much of it underground as you can.
You can seal the site before detonation. It's not that difficult. The US has done it hundreds of times during the cold war and just before.
Also, the estimates (which vary according to which country you ask) are less than 1 kt. As far as nukes go, that is very tiny. How much rad would you expect from this? How deep was the explosion? I know that they registered seismic activity, which was how they knew it happened. How accurate can one guage depth using seismographic equipment?
For some perspective, the US 1954 Castle Bravo test was 15 MEGA tons, and it was a mistake, they were only expecting like 1/3rd of that. The "ruskies" detonated 50 Mt, the largest ever, in 1961. There has been over 2,000 nuclear tests by the world nuke powers since they began, most of them from the US.
I don't understand why prisons/prisoners aren't used for sorting and recycling, would it be done at a loss if you only pay pennies on the dollar for labor ;) Nowdays they have them picking up litter for nothing and drop at a facility for someone to process at like $15+/hour
Oh sure, give them access to toxic materials and more sharp things. That might work for some community service or small-time stuff, but not a real prison.
"I'm not sure I agree with some of the conclusions here (you can buy iTunes cards at Walgreens), but it's an interesting discussion."
So you're saying that kids who (most of them) cannot drive a car, must go to a STORE, so they can go back home to buy things ONLINE. Why not just GO TO A LOCAL MUSIC STORE (while there are still some left).
No. Here's a better solution. Apple or somebody has to set up either prepaid accounts that parents can initiate for their kids, or quotas that their kids can't bypass.
Just build your own, maybe a few small ones or one larger one.
1 000_watt_wind_turbine.html
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/06/diy_
I seem to remember a lot of probelms with early drives (not early as in when they started, but when they kind of took off for home use). Especially with Seagate drives. After they started getting into the several hundred meg range, up into the less than 100 gig range, I think those drives are more reliable than the 100+ gig drives.
Maybe not 100. Maybe 80, may 120, but somewhere right around there, I think desnity just got too high, and I'm afraid to replace my 80 gig drive before I get some kind of full backup system in place (aside from just backing up the irreplaceable stuff on CD/DVD)
If by the EXTREMELY slim chance they actually won, I vot ethat we next sue the US government over torture allegations, saying it lead to copycats in serial killers, child molesters, etc.
I don't think that San Andreas was dual layer. I'm pretty sure it was around the 4.3 gig limit for single discs. There wasn't any FMV in San Andreas, it was all polygons. Xenosaga was an example of a dual layer game for PS2, and I believe that size was mostly due to FMV (but I haven't played it, it's sitting on my shelf)
Or if you are in a situation where there are already un-labelled cables, use one of these. It's a tone generator and probe. Plug the generator in at your drop, and use the probe to find that cable on your panel. We have one of these that we paid $180 for, but the one on the link is cheaper. We also got a cable tester that also generates tones, so you can put the generator/tester at the drop, go to the panel, locate the cable with the probe, then plug in a receiver from the tester kit and it will tell you the status of the cable. It's just a tester, not a cable certifier. Those are crazy-expensive, and not necessary for my work.
(no affiliation with triangle cables, just the first link I googled)
If Sony deserved any of the credit, they would have made it themselves. Just because you have competition, doesn't mean they get credit for your success.
Oops! Forgot to add UMD to that list.
Sony has just specialized in trying to force crappy formats on people. I guess Memory Stick is kind-of, sort-of OK. It takes a decent 2nd or 3rd under Sandisk and possibly CF.
Oh yeah, and on the subject of memory stick, I can't leave out Magicgate. The crappy protection that makes it so you can't use 3rd party memory cards on the PS2.
"The latter two problems were solved with the slim PS2; the DVD player is WORLDS better, although the new remote is still PURE CRAP (try finding anything in the dark on that fucker) and it doesn't make that same horrible seeking noise, it makes a new, somewhat less horrible seeking noise :)"
Um, no, sorry. When the PSTwo came out there were issues with laser diodes frying or something. SONY quality has gone completely downhill, IMO.
In addition to the 2 PS2's I have with bad lasers (v4 and V7), and the one I repaired for my G/F (thank you, HDLoader!), and the several PS1's I've gone through, I also own a 5.1 head unit that decided to stop accepting commands from the remote just short of 1 year after purchase. The remote still controls the TV and VCR (which is like, 8 years old, GE brand), it just doesn't do anything to the Sony receiver. Lets see. Sony Discman: still works. But that was old-sony. New Sony makes junk that breaks when you look at it funny. I'm staring at a 20" Sony Trinitron CRT that periodically has color-smears, but that may be the cable, I'm not sure yet.
Rootkit-fiasco
ATRAC
Betamax
MiniDisc
MemoryStick
I just don't understand why they are still around. And I am a HUGE PS2 fan.
I wouldn't say they are headed down the toilet, but I expect they are in for a major shakeup and reoganization. Of course, they are a japanese company, and the Japanese are not so quick to replace management as the US, so we will see. If they were a completely american company, they would have gone through several CEOs by now.
A properly configured kiosk PC would not allow you to download anything.
"Can it be observed? Can you repeat it and document the results of the repetition?
Seriously. It's not testable. If it's not testable, it's not science."
Can you prove that you were born? That you are a human? No one had to be there to prove that you were born and are human. So the answer is yes, you can repeat and document the results.
"What theoretical physics is doing is gathering data, speculating about what *might* have happened, and calling it science. This is not the stuff of science. For that matter, creationists have the same data as naturalists and have a different, non-testable explanation. To me, it's the same thing, with just as much religious fervor. I don't claim that creationism is scientific in nature, although I do lend great credence to the ID argument - "look, all of the stuff around you is so complex it certainly appears to have been designed."
Actually, I'd say that IS science. You gather data and make a hypothesis, and test it. Or maybe I have my steps backwards and you make the hypothesis first, but regardless, it works either way. Previous information may lead you to propose a hypothesis, which may require more data-gathering. I don't see any evidence that says life is so complex it has to have been designed. There are simple systems that are easy to explain, there are hugely complex systems such as humans which ID people may want to believe are beyond explation, but that is just being short sighted. Just because something is complex doesn't automatically lead to design. If we don't destroy ourselves first, I think the human race will figure out all the secrets of life in the next century or two. Computers are getting to the point where it may be possible to model part or all of a complex system.
"My view is that God created the universe from nothing. Perhaps you don't find that believeable.
I can honestly say that I find the whole god-creation a possibility, but I can't help but look at how religion keeps trying to push the line in the sand back. Religion has done nothing in thousands of years to reveal the secrets of the world and the universe. "Oh, you proved that wrong? Well, maybe god is really here, and you just can't see him". Push the line back. The bible is full of so many ridiculous inconsistencies, it makes even the worst science book look like the irrefutable truth of everything. If there really is a god, I don't think it is even REMOTELY resembles anything in the bible/torah/koran etc.
"I find the idea that it all came from nothing by natural processes to be ridiculous. If matter is "all there is, all there ever was, and all that ever will be" then the universe should have equilibrated an eternity ago. All heat and motion and should have stopped virtually an infinite amount of time before you and I existed."
But you can demonstrate the distance between things and compute movement in the universe. If there was a big bang, why should it have equilibrated? Infinite time before we existed? What are you talking about? Every once in a while they come up with a new age for the universe. Can't say I understand any of it though.
"-- get your stickers out of my science book. I don't paste crap in your bible.
Witty, but content-free."
It's called a 120 character limit. I couldn't explain all the ways the right wing is ruining the US in 1,000,000,000 characters.
"If you're saying that your science book reflects the same theological content as my Bible, then you're absolutely right and I'll keep my stickers off as long as you keep your theological tome out of the SCIENCE classroom."
I'm not saying a science book reflects any theological content. That is the point. I don't paste crap in your bible, there was enough in there to begin with; along with every other religious text written by people hallucinating in the desert. Nothing personal. It's just that aside from the whole "treat people as you want to be treated", there is nothing worthwhile in it. What theological tome am I trying to put in the classroom? Are you implying evolution is really theological in nature?
"Get your materialistic philosophy out of my science books and I'll stop trying to restrict that content. You think that the universe came from nothing via the Big Bang? You're free to believe that but since the scientific method can't be used to test that concept, it's not science and does not belong in science books. Evolution as a means of speciation? Perhaps that is current thinking in science, but I expect that to change in the next 50 years. This theory will be the 19th and 20th century's equivalent of "stone knives and bearskins" to quote Star Trek."
Do I believe it? No. I'm not convinced. But it's infinitely more believeable than the supernatural "you can't see me" explanation. Personally, I prefer the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory. And please explain why the scientific method can't be used to probe the origins of the universe? And what exactly do you expect to fill the role of evolution? I'm not denying it couldn't happen, but your statement wasn't witty, and it was definately content free. But you get +1 geek points for the star trek reference.