For instance, in a grocery store line: if someone cut in, they'd be given to understand that their behavior was not ok.
This happened to me once. I was at a KMart that was going out of business, waiting in a HUGE line, only one register open. A guy and his wife try to go up to a clerk messing around in one of the register cubicles and ask if they are open. I open my big mouth and say that there are a ton of other people waiting in line. The guy yells at me to never talk to his wife like that. I am not a small man by any means, 245 lbs 6'3, but this guy was much bigger & wider than me.
"Understanding their behavior was not ok". Right. The only thing this made me do was go out and buy pepper spray so I can continue to run my mouth next time, instead of backing down.
I only think this would INCREASE road rage, and lead to fights.
I had this idea years ago, but it was limited to just wireless internet, not using it to report specific local conditions to the node.
I don't think it will catch on. Why is this any better than just putting some permanent fixtures in certain areas with some long distance optical/radio transmition? How is having 50 cars in a traffic jam going to give you any more information than one permanent camera with some robot vision?
Also, the permanent fixture gives you the option of knowing about things even when your fancy cars aren't around.
Do you really want to let Big Brother into your garage? It's bad enough that insurance companies may start monitoring speed to offer lower rates. I have a great driving record, no accidents, no tickets in quite a while, but I regularly drive 5-10 miles over the limit, more in some places (they have some antiquated speed limits in my city). I hope this fails miserably.
So then why can the New York Post copyright their stuff? Or Fox news?
Seriously, that is REALLY subjective, and I doubt it would hold up today. In practice, everyone copyrights first and asks questions later. Good luck to anyone who would try to pass it off as their own and sell it for money.
Um, porn is copyrighted too, they are just much less active in persuing perpetrators (of pernicious pictures! sorry).
Rampant speculation: prosecuting this would hurt the industry. Bringing people into the public eye for porn downloads would cause a huge sucking noise, being the vaccuum of people deleting images and purging their collections, and avoiding the industry in general.
Back in my home town, they used to put pictures of people who were busted in sting operations for propositioning undercover cops posing as prostitues.
It could be argued that the popularity of VHS was due to piracy.
Bittorrent accounts for a VERY LARGE percentage of all transfers on the internet. I would bet most of that is illegal.
The ONLY thing bittorrent has going for it against P2P like Grokster is that Grokster has some method of authority over the system. Anyone can run their own mini-P2P network that they are responsible for (seeders/trackers).
Say a politician wants to ban cars because they can be used to cause so much death and destruction. Someone wants a list of safe, legal applications for cars. Well, there's driving to work, driving to school, fetching groceries, etc.
You're opening up a can of worms with that argument. You have to be above a certain age and licensed to drive a vehicle, and their use is HEAVILY regulated.
Same goes with the gun argument. People kill people, not guns; but that doesn't mean you want to compare it to P2P use.
A better example is the classic MPAA vs Sony argument (I think it was sony. the VHS case). MPAA thought it would be the death of the film industry, that it would let massive piracy take place. It didn't. VHS had plenty of valid uses, and some not-so-legitimate.
And it will continue to live on because retailers are not going to stop selling that old equipment that still suffers from this problem. Unless they pull the "faulty" (read: it's a feature) units off the shelves, people are just going to be exposed to these units and their problems, and it tarnishes the new units.
Errr, the thought was complete in my head, but it didn't make it through to the keyboard.
I meant to say they wanted to improve on the PS2, and make it smaller. As a seperate sentence, the XBox is a monster, it's very large and heavy. Mildly cool looking.
I should expand on this. When I say something useful, I mean connect them to something they can't get in school. Embedded hardware. The poster mentioned robotics, that is a start. I know that my high school was a little behind the curve in the computer dept, and I skipped out on physics until I got to college, but some of this sounds a little above the head of a high schooler. So it will have to be simplified a little for some.
If you had tried to explain robot vision to me in High school, I would have developed a permanent dumb-look on my face.
When I was in High School (graduated in 96), I had very little real world experience with technology. We programmed on 286 PC's in Pascal, and I did personal research in C for my senior year. There was no realistic connection to outside technology and what was going on in the world. I found myself experimenting with using EMS/XMS memory, and interfacing with the PS2 mouse using pascal, and meanwhile out in the rest of the world, windows 95 was getting ready to be released. I was working closer to the hardware level and the industry was moving toward abstraction and API's. I had no understanding of this at the time.
This continued in college, btw. LOTS of theory (which I know is important), but not a lot of substance. Now I find myself with a CS degree and no real world experience. I answer phones for a living, at the moment.
Do something to inspire people. Something that can connect them to a project, to something useful.
Not to get into a console flame war, but after using HDLoader, I doubt that the Gamecube's DVD-style drive can keep up with the hard drive in the PS2.
There are load times on some of the larger Gamecube games. Mario Sunshine. Resident Evil Zero. They aren't as significant as on some of the PS2 games. Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex has like 40 second load times, it is horrendous. It went down to like 5-6 seconds once I put it on a HD.
Disclaimer: I own both systems, I am partial to the PS2 for the higher density of good games, but the small stack of games I own for the gamecube are very good.
Yes, the Dreamcast did have problems, and look what happened to Sega. (I know Sega had a laundry list of problems, but it is obvious that didn't help) As for the Nintendo and the cartridge based systems, they are cleanable as you stated, but that is irrelevant. It takes forever for one of those systems to get that dirty. These are problems on the release date of the PSP.
I don't know about the hype. This is slashdot, some pretty stupid stuff gets frontpage. As an avid gamer, I think the console wars are fairly significant, and for major design flaws to come out at release date, along with other problems (the Walkman), this is significant for sony.
But the original PS2 also has the expansion bay so you COULD put ethernet and a harddrive in it, so it was kind of redundant. Now, the new PSTwo has no fireware and no external add-on network adapter with the IDE port. You are HD-less.
My thoughts is that this is really just geared toward anyone on the planet who still doesn't have a recent-generation game system. They wanted to make it look sexy as well, and the XBox is a beast. The Gamecube doesn't fit well on a home theatre shelf either. Anyone who is going to buy a playstation at this point probably isn't going to be playing FFXI anyway. MMORPG's have a critical mass, and I think FFXI has reached it's peak. If someone really wants to play it, they can still get an old model PS2.
This sounds like crap people would spout off who don't even own one of the newer units. The only real issue I've come across, and it's one that I don't care about because I wouldn't have bought a hard drive anyway, is the lack of support for the hard drive. Supposedly Sony is working on a solution... possibly an external usb drive or something but I have no use for an hd so I don't care if they release one or not.
Possible solution? It has USB 1.1, they are pretty limited on bandwidth. I doubt they will do anything for a HD for the PSTwo. They will try again with PS3.
Personally, now that I have found HDLoader (HDAdvance after Sony crushed that one), I can't imagine going to a PS2 without a HD. The ability to smush a bunch of games into my PS2 AND reduce the load times is amazing. Sony will never back this though, because it gives you the ability to borrow/rent games and copy them.
How do you patch a firmware to fix dead pixels or keep the drive rails from allowing the disc to pop out?
These are engineering and production issues. If there is a real problem, Sony will have to just accept returns and fix them. Or they can deny it, like IBM does for the Deathstar hard drives, and continue to deny it till they sell off the unit to Hitachi. I don't forsee Sony selling this off though. It's not as much of a commodity business like hard drives are; sony is really trying for dominance of the handheld market.
My PS2 eventually started getting Disc Read errors. It is a simple matter of opening the unit and spending 10-15 minutes with the adjustment-wheel that regulates the height of the laser. My PS2 now loads games faster than it used to. For a while, the PS2 would turn on, then it would go straight to the screen where you can view the memory cards, because it was waiting for the disc to read, now it skips that screen and goes straight to the game like it did when it was new.
Nasa's concrete mission for the moon was to get there in case we needed to launch missles off of it at Russia, before ICBM's were developed. Now what exactly is this concrete mission involving Mars?
Survival of the species? I think we are better served in developing ways to protect the rock we are on NOW, by researching sustainable energy uses, and just going into space to test out new propulsion for the EVENTUALITY of leaving the solar system, and also to put up the occasional Satellite or blow up someone else's (yes, space war is making a comeback)
I think Bush will ask the governator, Arnold over in California to take over, due to his experiences on mars
But seriously folks, I weep for this country. People are dropping left and right from this administration, and Bush is trying to fill our CIA with yes-men. We are in serious trouble, won't somebody save us?
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question is, is there even an adult market for these things to begin with? I don't think so. I am a HUGE fan of games, but being an adult, I have a real job. I drive to work. Unless I took public transportation (which doesn't exist to the place I go), I don't have time for this. I have a PS2, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and various older platforms. I have a GBA (1st generation with front light installed), but I hardly EVER play it. On the rare occasions that I get to go somewhere and not drive, I have a laptop I would rather play with.
The interactivity of the DS is well known, the interactivity of the PSP not so much, why?
Because it is just a rehash of the Playstation. There is no innovation. I forsee a lot of re-releases of PSOne games, but for the most part nothing amazing.
Are audiences really going to want to buy their media on a proprietary format when a portable DVD player is so cheap these days, and works with your home disks? Saying that smaller is better was important in the 80s... I don't think that holds today.
And who is going to buy them when they can't bring them back home for the home theatre? On the ohter hand, proprietary works well for nintendo. I think the movie playing ability is going to be a flop. Maybe not in japan, because they are wierd like that.
-I am not really excited about a disk drive anything in my carry around equipment. It may be an unfounded fear these days, but still, it is there.
I wonder what the failure rate is going to be on this. The DS has the benefit of the clamshell design for protection, along with few/no moving parts (aside from the clamshell, and just inserting the games, which is pretty robust). The PSP on the other hand, has a high-performance DVD type drive internally. Coming from a company like sony, who has has problems in the past, like the 1st generation PS1's and the guide rail for the laser wearing out, also the Disc Read Errors for the PS2 (which is actually easy to fix if you know how), to the rumors of problems with the laser diodes on the new PSTwo V12 models.
After all, who uses their Xbox to play movies? Anyone? Who will use their PSP to play the ten songs that their memory stick can hold or look at digital pictures when the camera already has a screen, and shows them without running it through a PC? Picto-chat? Honestly Nintendo, if you are close enough to picto chat you are close enough to chat for real. That is more fun.
Agreed. Somewhat. Lots of people use their XBox and PS2 to play movies on. The picture function, not so useful. Picto-chat is mildly amusing, and yes, fairly useless. But I think the touch screen and dual nature of the DS will certainly open up a lot of doors for it. Nintendo has a way of creating really fun games.
I liken the PSP to the NGage. Expensive, and not as good as the cheaper competitors. Of course the NGage suffered from bad design decisions, and from what I have seen of the lineup, I am not impressed. Then again, I'm not that impressed with the DS lineup either.
Predictions: Nintendo will continue to rule the handheld market, Sony will be mildly succesful, NGage will continue to fail. Microsoft will become jealous and think of entering the market, thus losing even MORE money. I don't think Nintendo will survive as a hardware manufacturer of home consoles. I think this next system they are developing will be their Dreamcast; that is, their last chance at a home console; make or break time.
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For instance, in a grocery store line: if someone cut in, they'd be given to understand that their behavior was not ok.
This happened to me once. I was at a KMart that was going out of business, waiting in a HUGE line, only one register open. A guy and his wife try to go up to a clerk messing around in one of the register cubicles and ask if they are open. I open my big mouth and say that there are a ton of other people waiting in line. The guy yells at me to never talk to his wife like that. I am not a small man by any means, 245 lbs 6'3, but this guy was much bigger & wider than me.
"Understanding their behavior was not ok". Right. The only thing this made me do was go out and buy pepper spray so I can continue to run my mouth next time, instead of backing down.
I only think this would INCREASE road rage, and lead to fights.
I got it. I don't remember what movie it was. Manhattan Project perhaps? I feel old.
I had this idea years ago, but it was limited to just wireless internet, not using it to report specific local conditions to the node.
I don't think it will catch on. Why is this any better than just putting some permanent fixtures in certain areas with some long distance optical/radio transmition? How is having 50 cars in a traffic jam going to give you any more information than one permanent camera with some robot vision?
Also, the permanent fixture gives you the option of knowing about things even when your fancy cars aren't around.
Do you really want to let Big Brother into your garage? It's bad enough that insurance companies may start monitoring speed to offer lower rates. I have a great driving record, no accidents, no tickets in quite a while, but I regularly drive 5-10 miles over the limit, more in some places (they have some antiquated speed limits in my city). I hope this fails miserably.
So then why can the New York Post copyright their stuff? Or Fox news?
Seriously, that is REALLY subjective, and I doubt it would hold up today. In practice, everyone copyrights first and asks questions later. Good luck to anyone who would try to pass it off as their own and sell it for money.
Oops, in the newspaper. Little local rag.
Posted their name and age, along with the pretty mug shot.
Not exactly. Authority over the system doesn't automatically assign blame. I think that is really part of the whole argument in the courts.
Um, porn is copyrighted too, they are just much less active in persuing perpetrators (of pernicious pictures! sorry).
Rampant speculation: prosecuting this would hurt the industry. Bringing people into the public eye for porn downloads would cause a huge sucking noise, being the vaccuum of people deleting images and purging their collections, and avoiding the industry in general.
Back in my home town, they used to put pictures of people who were busted in sting operations for propositioning undercover cops posing as prostitues.
BZZZZT! Wrong.
It could be argued that the popularity of VHS was due to piracy.
Bittorrent accounts for a VERY LARGE percentage of all transfers on the internet. I would bet most of that is illegal.
The ONLY thing bittorrent has going for it against P2P like Grokster is that Grokster has some method of authority over the system. Anyone can run their own mini-P2P network that they are responsible for (seeders/trackers).
Say a politician wants to ban cars because they can be used to cause so much death and destruction. Someone wants a list of safe, legal applications for cars. Well, there's driving to work, driving to school, fetching groceries, etc.
You're opening up a can of worms with that argument. You have to be above a certain age and licensed to drive a vehicle, and their use is HEAVILY regulated.
Same goes with the gun argument. People kill people, not guns; but that doesn't mean you want to compare it to P2P use.
A better example is the classic MPAA vs Sony argument (I think it was sony. the VHS case). MPAA thought it would be the death of the film industry, that it would let massive piracy take place. It didn't. VHS had plenty of valid uses, and some not-so-legitimate.
the stigma lives on
And it will continue to live on because retailers are not going to stop selling that old equipment that still suffers from this problem. Unless they pull the "faulty" (read: it's a feature) units off the shelves, people are just going to be exposed to these units and their problems, and it tarnishes the new units.
Errr, the thought was complete in my head, but it didn't make it through to the keyboard.
I meant to say they wanted to improve on the PS2, and make it smaller. As a seperate sentence, the XBox is a monster, it's very large and heavy. Mildly cool looking.
I should expand on this. When I say something useful, I mean connect them to something they can't get in school. Embedded hardware. The poster mentioned robotics, that is a start. I know that my high school was a little behind the curve in the computer dept, and I skipped out on physics until I got to college, but some of this sounds a little above the head of a high schooler. So it will have to be simplified a little for some.
If you had tried to explain robot vision to me in High school, I would have developed a permanent dumb-look on my face.
When I was in High School (graduated in 96), I had very little real world experience with technology. We programmed on 286 PC's in Pascal, and I did personal research in C for my senior year. There was no realistic connection to outside technology and what was going on in the world. I found myself experimenting with using EMS/XMS memory, and interfacing with the PS2 mouse using pascal, and meanwhile out in the rest of the world, windows 95 was getting ready to be released. I was working closer to the hardware level and the industry was moving toward abstraction and API's. I had no understanding of this at the time.
This continued in college, btw. LOTS of theory (which I know is important), but not a lot of substance. Now I find myself with a CS degree and no real world experience. I answer phones for a living, at the moment.
Do something to inspire people. Something that can connect them to a project, to something useful.
Not to get into a console flame war, but after using HDLoader, I doubt that the Gamecube's DVD-style drive can keep up with the hard drive in the PS2.
There are load times on some of the larger Gamecube games. Mario Sunshine. Resident Evil Zero. They aren't as significant as on some of the PS2 games. Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex has like 40 second load times, it is horrendous. It went down to like 5-6 seconds once I put it on a HD.
Disclaimer: I own both systems, I am partial to the PS2 for the higher density of good games, but the small stack of games I own for the gamecube are very good.
Yes, the Dreamcast did have problems, and look what happened to Sega. (I know Sega had a laundry list of problems, but it is obvious that didn't help) As for the Nintendo and the cartridge based systems, they are cleanable as you stated, but that is irrelevant. It takes forever for one of those systems to get that dirty. These are problems on the release date of the PSP.
I don't know about the hype. This is slashdot, some pretty stupid stuff gets frontpage. As an avid gamer, I think the console wars are fairly significant, and for major design flaws to come out at release date, along with other problems (the Walkman), this is significant for sony.
But the original PS2 also has the expansion bay so you COULD put ethernet and a harddrive in it, so it was kind of redundant. Now, the new PSTwo has no fireware and no external add-on network adapter with the IDE port. You are HD-less.
My thoughts is that this is really just geared toward anyone on the planet who still doesn't have a recent-generation game system. They wanted to make it look sexy as well, and the XBox is a beast. The Gamecube doesn't fit well on a home theatre shelf either. Anyone who is going to buy a playstation at this point probably isn't going to be playing FFXI anyway. MMORPG's have a critical mass, and I think FFXI has reached it's peak. If someone really wants to play it, they can still get an old model PS2.
This sounds like crap people would spout off who don't even own one of the newer units. The only real issue I've come across, and it's one that I don't care about because I wouldn't have bought a hard drive anyway, is the lack of support for the hard drive. Supposedly Sony is working on a solution... possibly an external usb drive or something but I have no use for an hd so I don't care if they release one or not.
Possible solution? It has USB 1.1, they are pretty limited on bandwidth. I doubt they will do anything for a HD for the PSTwo. They will try again with PS3.
Personally, now that I have found HDLoader (HDAdvance after Sony crushed that one), I can't imagine going to a PS2 without a HD. The ability to smush a bunch of games into my PS2 AND reduce the load times is amazing. Sony will never back this though, because it gives you the ability to borrow/rent games and copy them.
Someone has to be the first adopter so I can go buy it a few months/years later, pay less, and get a better product!
How do you patch a firmware to fix dead pixels or keep the drive rails from allowing the disc to pop out?
These are engineering and production issues. If there is a real problem, Sony will have to just accept returns and fix them. Or they can deny it, like IBM does for the Deathstar hard drives, and continue to deny it till they sell off the unit to Hitachi. I don't forsee Sony selling this off though. It's not as much of a commodity business like hard drives are; sony is really trying for dominance of the handheld market.
My PS2 eventually started getting Disc Read errors. It is a simple matter of opening the unit and spending 10-15 minutes with the adjustment-wheel that regulates the height of the laser. My PS2 now loads games faster than it used to. For a while, the PS2 would turn on, then it would go straight to the screen where you can view the memory cards, because it was waiting for the disc to read, now it skips that screen and goes straight to the game like it did when it was new.
Yes, there are instances with the laser or some kind fo laser diode (whatever that is) burning out.
It has no HD, and it still uses USB 1.1 ports. Not very good. But at least you can pick up an older version cheap!
Nasa's concrete mission for the moon was to get there in case we needed to launch missles off of it at Russia, before ICBM's were developed. Now what exactly is this concrete mission involving Mars?
Survival of the species? I think we are better served in developing ways to protect the rock we are on NOW, by researching sustainable energy uses, and just going into space to test out new propulsion for the EVENTUALITY of leaving the solar system, and also to put up the occasional Satellite or blow up someone else's (yes, space war is making a comeback)
Earth sized Minibar? Where do I get one of those?
I think Bush will ask the governator, Arnold over in California to take over, due to his experiences on mars
But seriously folks, I weep for this country. People are dropping left and right from this administration, and Bush is trying to fill our CIA with yes-men. We are in serious trouble, won't somebody save us?
question is, is there even an adult market for these things to begin with?
I don't think so. I am a HUGE fan of games, but being an adult, I have a real job. I drive to work. Unless I took public transportation (which doesn't exist to the place I go), I don't have time for this. I have a PS2, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and various older platforms. I have a GBA (1st generation with front light installed), but I hardly EVER play it. On the rare occasions that I get to go somewhere and not drive, I have a laptop I would rather play with.
The interactivity of the DS is well known, the interactivity of the PSP not so much, why?
Because it is just a rehash of the Playstation. There is no innovation. I forsee a lot of re-releases of PSOne games, but for the most part nothing amazing.
Are audiences really going to want to buy their media on a proprietary format when a portable DVD player is so cheap these days, and works with your home disks? Saying that smaller is better was important in the 80s... I don't think that holds today.
And who is going to buy them when they can't bring them back home for the home theatre? On the ohter hand, proprietary works well for nintendo. I think the movie playing ability is going to be a flop. Maybe not in japan, because they are wierd like that.
-I am not really excited about a disk drive anything in my carry around equipment. It may be an unfounded fear these days, but still, it is there.
I wonder what the failure rate is going to be on this. The DS has the benefit of the clamshell design for protection, along with few/no moving parts (aside from the clamshell, and just inserting the games, which is pretty robust). The PSP on the other hand, has a high-performance DVD type drive internally. Coming from a company like sony, who has has problems in the past, like the 1st generation PS1's and the guide rail for the laser wearing out, also the Disc Read Errors for the PS2 (which is actually easy to fix if you know how), to the rumors of problems with the laser diodes on the new PSTwo V12 models.
After all, who uses their Xbox to play movies? Anyone? Who will use their PSP to play the ten songs that their memory stick can hold or look at digital pictures when the camera already has a screen, and shows them without running it through a PC? Picto-chat? Honestly Nintendo, if you are close enough to picto chat you are close enough to chat for real. That is more fun.
Agreed. Somewhat. Lots of people use their XBox and PS2 to play movies on. The picture function, not so useful. Picto-chat is mildly amusing, and yes, fairly useless. But I think the touch screen and dual nature of the DS will certainly open up a lot of doors for it. Nintendo has a way of creating really fun games.
I liken the PSP to the NGage. Expensive, and not as good as the cheaper competitors. Of course the NGage suffered from bad design decisions, and from what I have seen of the lineup, I am not impressed. Then again, I'm not that impressed with the DS lineup either.
Predictions: Nintendo will continue to rule the handheld market, Sony will be mildly succesful, NGage will continue to fail. Microsoft will become jealous and think of entering the market, thus losing even MORE money. I don't think Nintendo will survive as a hardware manufacturer of home consoles. I think this next system they are developing will be their Dreamcast; that is, their last chance at a home console; make or break time.