Aah yeah. That was an awesome bug, totally "The Daily WTF" worthy.
One of the QA interns on the Dev side got tired of entering a password as he was testing and changed the code so any password would pass the check. He of course forgot to undo his change. I personally managed that incident since all the other adult supervision on both the Dev and Ops side was at an offsite. It was one of the most fun days in my time at Hotmail.
I thought it was lame of his manager (DB) to not renew his internship. Smart kid, rookie mistake. Wonder where he's at now.
I left in 2000 so missed the 2001 incident. (There was also an incident in '97 where a friendly hacker figured out how to see any file in the filesystem. The site was still Perl based at the time. My boss wanted to call the FBI, I convinced him to let me send him a computer as a "Thank you for telling us" present instead.)
Meanwhile, seeing you flail about as you're trying to prove God knows what is kinda cute. Hopefully everyone else is enjoying me share some of those memories.
He's not entirely wrong. The Hotmail purchase was a bit of an embarrassment at the time for MS. They bought a successful service that was using FreeBSD for everything, while telling all of their customers that UNIX on the server was old and crappy while NT 4 was the new shiny. Then they tried to switch Hotmail to NT4, failed miserably, saw a load of downtime, and reverted to FreeBSD... which would have been fine if they hadn't made such a big deal about the migration. Hotmail now runs Windows Server {some year} - they learned from this experience, improved their server OS offering, and didn't tell anyone about the second migration until after it was done and working.
Hotmail was FreeBSD on the user facing services and Solaris for data storage.
We never tried NT4. We did eventually move to W2K (which was part of why I left).
Hotmail was terrible before Microsoft took over. It could take several days for an email from one Hotmail address to reach the inbox of another Hotmail address.
Um, no. Hotmail to Hotmail email was directly delivered. It never touched a SMTP server. The process was to query the user database server, check the recipient's mailbox size, and then deliver directly to their mailbox.
I still have some of the original Perl source code on tape.
Yup, competition never works to the advantage of the consumer. That's why I'm typing this on a $500 computer that is 50 times faster than the one I had 10 years ago. That's why my car is more comfortable, gets better gas mileage, and has more power than the one I bought 6 years ago. And yes, that's why (even in a barely competitive market) I have a faster 25Mbps net connection for less than I paid for my 128Kbps ISDN connection 15 years ago.
My bread machine is a $12 Thrift Store special. It's been working great for us for the better part of a decade; the last 5 years making loaves about every other day.
Here's my favorite bread recipe- add in this order:
For a 2lb loaf:
2 tablespoons white or brown sugar or honey
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons canola or olive oil
12oz water
3 cups white flour (Costo 25lb bag - $8)
1 cup wheat flour (Walmart 'Hungarian' whole wheat flour 5lb bag - $3)
1 teaspoon dry yeast (Costco 2lb bag - $6? - around 300 loaves worth) - Don't use the packets.
I have a thrift store breadmaker. Just before the last rise cycle someone pulls the paddle at the bottom of the pan to not have a big hole at the bottom of the loaf.
It really does work out to between $0.25 and $0.50 per loaf. And that includes the amortized price of the bread machine. I make at least 4 loaves a week and we've been doing this for at least the last 5 years.
Did you not see the part where it took 35 minutes? I work full time and still can ensure that my family eats healthy meals.
Preheat oven to 325 (convection) or 350 (regular) Season Chicken Pour rice in rice cooker Wash rice Add water and seasonings Put chicken in oven Start rice Surf/. for 10 minutes Clean vegetables Put in steamer Surf/. for 20 minutes Serve food
Bullshit. People who can't feed their family well for less than the price of a pizza ($10-$20) are full of it.
Veggies are cheap, often under $1/lb. Rice is less than $0.25/lb Chicken Breasts can often be found for under $2.00/lb
The above is the core of a great meal that costs less than $6, will feed 4 people, and can be made in 35 minutes with only around 15 minutes of kitchen time. (2lbs of chicken, 1 dry cup of rice, and 1lb of veggies)
And instead of spending $3-$4 on a loaf of bread, bake your own loaf of light wheat bread for around $0.25. With a bread machine, the work is trivial and the bread is better than store bought.
I use Gentoo for this as well. I build binary packages on my master host, test it in our test environment, then install to production. It works great and I can turn off features I don't need.
The problem with this line of thinking is you're making the leap that those unemployed possess the same skills and motivation as those working 60 hour weeks. I work 60 hour weeks because my clients can't find others with my skill set. I love it as I can pretty much set my rate and other terms at what I deem to be excessively high and they're happy to pay it.
Personally, I'd love to be able to have IOS running as a separate VM. Then I could run the 3-4 IOS apps I like that just don't have a good Android equivalent.
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Aah yeah. That was an awesome bug, totally "The Daily WTF" worthy.
One of the QA interns on the Dev side got tired of entering a password as he was testing and changed the code so any password would pass the check. He of course forgot to undo his change. I personally managed that incident since all the other adult supervision on both the Dev and Ops side was at an offsite. It was one of the most fun days in my time at Hotmail.
I thought it was lame of his manager (DB) to not renew his internship. Smart kid, rookie mistake. Wonder where he's at now.
I left in 2000 so missed the 2001 incident. (There was also an incident in '97 where a friendly hacker figured out how to see any file in the filesystem. The site was still Perl based at the time. My boss wanted to call the FBI, I convinced him to let me send him a computer as a "Thank you for telling us" present instead.)
Meanwhile, seeing you flail about as you're trying to prove God knows what is kinda cute. Hopefully everyone else is enjoying me share some of those memories.
-J
Dude, give me at least a link to the "deception" you think happened. Your paranoia and conspiracy mindedness is just plain silly.
-J
Hotmail absolutely -NEVER- ran Linux. We gave it a test at the end of '96 but it didn't do SMP as well as FreeBSD did and we never really tried again.
-J
He's not entirely wrong. The Hotmail purchase was a bit of an embarrassment at the time for MS. They bought a successful service that was using FreeBSD for everything, while telling all of their customers that UNIX on the server was old and crappy while NT 4 was the new shiny. Then they tried to switch Hotmail to NT4, failed miserably, saw a load of downtime, and reverted to FreeBSD... which would have been fine if they hadn't made such a big deal about the migration. Hotmail now runs Windows Server {some year} - they learned from this experience, improved their server OS offering, and didn't tell anyone about the second migration until after it was done and working.
Hotmail was FreeBSD on the user facing services and Solaris for data storage.
We never tried NT4. We did eventually move to W2K (which was part of why I left).
-J
Hotmail was great... before Microsoft bought it.
Hotmail was terrible before Microsoft took over. It could take several days for an email from one Hotmail address to reach the inbox of another Hotmail address.
Um, no. Hotmail to Hotmail email was directly delivered. It never touched a SMTP server. The process was to query the user database server, check the recipient's mailbox size, and then deliver directly to their mailbox.
I still have some of the original Perl source code on tape.
-J
Okay, that's funny! And a worthy post to respond to to remove an inadvertent mod.
Apple has always been a bully. From "Look and Feel" lawsuits, to creating then killing clone machines, and now patent trolling...
Wow. Hell of a post, thanks! This is the sort of discussion I want to see.
-J
Sad.
-J
Yup, competition never works to the advantage of the consumer. That's why I'm typing this on a $500 computer that is 50 times faster than the one I had 10 years ago. That's why my car is more comfortable, gets better gas mileage, and has more power than the one I bought 6 years ago. And yes, that's why (even in a barely competitive market) I have a faster 25Mbps net connection for less than I paid for my 128Kbps ISDN connection 15 years ago.
You're right, all the above suck.
-Josh
The seven deadly sins...
Nothing beats giving the sales guy a computer named "greed"
-J
My bread machine is a $12 Thrift Store special. It's been working great for us for the better part of a decade; the last 5 years making loaves about every other day.
-J
I buy the yeast in bulk from Costco.
Here's my favorite bread recipe- add in this order:
For a 2lb loaf:
2 tablespoons white or brown sugar or honey
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons canola or olive oil
12oz water
3 cups white flour (Costo 25lb bag - $8)
1 cup wheat flour (Walmart 'Hungarian' whole wheat flour 5lb bag - $3)
1 teaspoon dry yeast (Costco 2lb bag - $6? - around 300 loaves worth) - Don't use the packets.
I have a thrift store breadmaker. Just before the last rise cycle someone pulls the paddle at the bottom of the pan to not have a big hole at the bottom of the loaf.
It really does work out to between $0.25 and $0.50 per loaf. And that includes the amortized price of the bread machine. I make at least 4 loaves a week and we've been doing this for at least the last 5 years.
-J
Did you not see the part where it took 35 minutes? I work full time and still can ensure that my family eats healthy meals.
Preheat oven to 325 (convection) or 350 (regular) /. for 10 minutes /. for 20 minutes
Season Chicken
Pour rice in rice cooker
Wash rice
Add water and seasonings
Put chicken in oven
Start rice
Surf
Clean vegetables
Put in steamer
Surf
Serve food
Bullshit. People who can't feed their family well for less than the price of a pizza ($10-$20) are full of it.
Veggies are cheap, often under $1/lb.
Rice is less than $0.25/lb
Chicken Breasts can often be found for under $2.00/lb
The above is the core of a great meal that costs less than $6, will feed 4 people, and can be made in 35 minutes with only around 15 minutes of kitchen time.
(2lbs of chicken, 1 dry cup of rice, and 1lb of veggies)
And instead of spending $3-$4 on a loaf of bread, bake your own loaf of light wheat bread for around $0.25. With a bread machine, the work is trivial and the bread is better than store bought.
-J
Um...
"moron"
"irrational hate blind you"
How exactly do you plan on convincing anyone by insulting them?
-J
Your reply to my post indicates that you do not understand the concept of humor. Here, let me help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humor
Sheesh.
So do we like Issa today or is he still evil?
Slashdot effect is in order.
I use Gentoo for this as well. I build binary packages on my master host, test it in our test environment, then install to production. It works great and I can turn off features I don't need.
The problem with this line of thinking is you're making the leap that those unemployed possess the same skills and motivation as those working 60 hour weeks. I work 60 hour weeks because my clients can't find others with my skill set. I love it as I can pretty much set my rate and other terms at what I deem to be excessively high and they're happy to pay it.
It's a shame you posted this as an AC where it won't get the visibility it deserves. It's a very good explanation.
Personally, I'd love to be able to have IOS running as a separate VM. Then I could run the 3-4 IOS apps I like that just don't have a good Android equivalent.
Or worse case, run Android as a VM in IOS.
-J
Democracy is a political system.
Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are economic systems.
Why should they? They are oil companies. Their product is oil.