Re:Getting out of commodity hardware - Betamax!
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it is amazing they stick with that same old tired plan!
And it will continue to work as long as you have customers dumber than you are. All you've got to remember is what Job's says today, and take out your wallet again.
Isn't the real problem here that trackers are being posted that haven't been verified as valid first by the "moderators".
Or is it the new "trackerless" BT that has opened this door?
Re:Getting out of commodity hardware - Betamax!
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If you want a cheap bare bones PC, you get your wintel XP box.
Oh, this should work well. Didn't Sony keep prices high on Betamax boxes after VHS appeared on the theory that the American consumer would pay more for quality just like the Japanses consumer?
Of course, Apple hasn't seemed to learn from any other history lessons (e.g. Osborne) either.
Locking people into hardware from only one manufacturer. How 1984 of them. Kind of forgot about that famous Superbowl commercial I guess.
Having OS X would probably require a higher price point--this both Apple and Dell would probably like.
Hurray for them. Makes it sound like both of them can't wait to screw over the consumer (with more expensive machines than necessary), which is hardly the "friendly" pro-consumer image they like to project.
Until it will reliably and easily send a double-click on a single tap without false positives, I won't be a convert. Using my middle mouse button for the double-click has been my most favorite setting ever since five minutes after I got my first pre-scroll wheel 3-button mouse many years ago. I will not give this productivity enhancement up easily.
Hey, it's all about the drivers, man. Apple doesn't want to have to support a zillion different drivers. And if they opened it up to white box generic PCs, they couldn't cost effectively support them all. And the moment that got out, they'd be unfavorably compared to MS who does support every device.
Consider that OSX driver support would approximate Linux driver support -- and for the same reasons!
Once upon a time not too many decades ago the U.S. Government attempted to impose price controls on meat to combat perceived gouging. Cuts of meat were all itemized, and maximum prices allowed for each determined.
What did the butchers do? They created new cuts of meat with new names that weren't on the price-controlled list. In short, they worked around the problem faster than the government could respond.
Gun manufacturers did similar things when so-called (so-called, because they're not really) "Assault Rifles" were banned by manufacture and model. Make a cosmetic change and slap on a new model number.
How can this be applicable here? The Utah AG is going ban sites by name. How fast can he update the list? How fast can he distribute it? Answer: not fast enough!
Consider this example of a workaround. A page with absolutely no infringing content that can't be legally banned. On it a link stating "Utah residents click here to access our site". Link changes daily -- even hourly. How do you put the target site on a ban list and distribute it fast enough? Won't happen.
This law is a feel good farce that won't stop anyone with an ounce of inventiveness on the web. End of comment.
Consider this before you ask for a paper trail. A secret ballot means no one can determine how you voted. In a current voting booth with a paper ballot this is true. However, if you have a cash register type record of the votes, all you have to do is keep track of the order that voters entered each booth to know their votes. Not good!
Now if you have some way to randomize this paper trail so that it can't be referenced back to any individual voter, then I might feel better about it.
While the rest of our hardware is well ahead of the PC curve, the CPU does not.
Oh really? Now that sounds like the dying gasp of another zelot. Having had Steve Jobs finally tell you it's okay to condem the processor, you still claim everything else Mac is better than the PC.
What exactly is ahead hardware wise? PCI slots? Nvidia video cards? AGP slot (oops). USB keyboards and mice? Audio? Just what other everything are you talking about? The power switch?
And how much of that will make the transition to an Intel Mac? Jobs is going to be using Intel chipsets in conjunction with his Intel CPU's. Same thing Dell uses.
You, Sir, are still a zelot, and one grasping at crumbs. Mac hasn't even gotten to an onboard RAID controller, although they'll get one with Intel finally.
I'm guessing you can't sell Intel-based Macs until they are demonstrably faster than the fastest PPC Mac being sold. The way to accomplish this is to screw the Mac community by:
1: No speed increases in PPC Macs for the next year, unless they are very expensive models that won't compete with mainstream Intel boxes when they're introduced.
2: Give Intel a year to catch up, which is a generation in computer processor years.
Conclusion: It's going to be a tough year to be a Mac owner.
Second Conclusion: I wonder how well OSX will run on an AMD?
1: Intel hates Microsoft because after MS made a 64-bit Windows for Itantium, then made a second 64-bit Windows for AMD64, Intel wanted another 64-bit Windows for their own incompatible x86-64 extensions that would have marginlized out AMD completely. Microsoft said no. Told Intel, you got a 64-bit Windows, AMD got a 64-bit Windows, and anything else you build had better be compatible with one of those two ISA's.
2: A year from now Intel will have boatloads of VT (Virtualization Technology nee Vanderpool) enabled chips available. So unless there's an SSE4 instruction set hiding somewhere, expect Apple to make use of this feature which, coincidentally will prevent OSX from running on all the old Pentium 4's out there, as well as AMD chips since Pacifica does the same things, but with different instructions.
1: Office Politics in education are an absolute bitch! And while any smart person would want to stay out of them entirely, you can get easily fired for not playing the game if you do.
2: If you're a conservative, keep it to yourself ALWAYS! If you're a liberal (somewhere to the left of Howard Dean) then it's okay to speak carefully and discreetly -- and after everyone else has had their say first.
3: You are in the absolute bastion of Political Correctness. A lot of it will be abysmally stupid. Don't ever point that out to ANYONE! Just nod silently and move along. There's nothing you can do about it anyway.
4: You are in the breeding ground for sexually harassed females in training. Be as respectful to any female -- especially any unattractive female -- as you are to the cop who just pulled you over for doing 50mph in the school zone just as the last points were about to drop off your license.
5: Diversity good! Affirmative Action good! Repeat this loud and often. And never forget that "Diversity" doesn't really mean true diversity. It means their one and only single definition of diversity.
6: Try not to have a job that anyone in the university with power will want to take away from you and give to their best friend/drinking buddy/lazy son who needs a job.
7: If someone tells you that you should be part of the Union, just say yes and hand over your money.
8: Understand that your lower pay should be offset by better medical coverage, retirement (if you stay that long) benefits, and low cost or free educational benefits (which you should take maximum advantage of).
9: If there's a probation period, be ESPECIALLY CAREFUL until you've passed it.
WinMX??? Who the heck is this and where did they come from? I thought BitTorrent was the most popular, and Kazaa came next - based on lawsuits from the **AA mad dogs.
Oh, gee, really? You can't get any of the other major promised features into Longhorn, but you're going to put this in now. How much sense does this make?
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And it will continue to work as long as you have customers dumber than you are. All you've got to remember is what Job's says today, and take out your wallet again.
Or is it the new "trackerless" BT that has opened this door?
Oh, this should work well. Didn't Sony keep prices high on Betamax boxes after VHS appeared on the theory that the American consumer would pay more for quality just like the Japanses consumer?
Of course, Apple hasn't seemed to learn from any other history lessons (e.g. Osborne) either.
Locking people into hardware from only one manufacturer. How 1984 of them. Kind of forgot about that famous Superbowl commercial I guess.
Hurray for them. Makes it sound like both of them can't wait to screw over the consumer (with more expensive machines than necessary), which is hardly the "friendly" pro-consumer image they like to project.
Is this before -- or after -- you've shipped it across the Internet?
Until it will reliably and easily send a double-click on a single tap without false positives, I won't be a convert. Using my middle mouse button for the double-click has been my most favorite setting ever since five minutes after I got my first pre-scroll wheel 3-button mouse many years ago. I will not give this productivity enhancement up easily.
Hey, it's all about the drivers, man. Apple doesn't want to have to support a zillion different drivers. And if they opened it up to white box generic PCs, they couldn't cost effectively support them all. And the moment that got out, they'd be unfavorably compared to MS who does support every device.
Consider that OSX driver support would approximate Linux driver support -- and for the same reasons!
We know what China does. They firewall the whole country and beat even the big corporations (Google, Microsoft) into enforcing their censorship.
And people there keep connecting to an ever shifting network of proxy servers.
Gee, I'll be able to make gaming tokens just like the guy did on "Breaking Vegas" (The History Channel).
You mean like my right as an indivdual to own a gun? That right?
Your Constitutional right to self-defense is worthless the moment you become unable to exercise it.
ACLU has everthing but Ammendment #2
That would be fine, if they would just stay out of Amentment #2 and say we protect most of your rights. But they don't.
What did the butchers do? They created new cuts of meat with new names that weren't on the price-controlled list. In short, they worked around the problem faster than the government could respond.
Gun manufacturers did similar things when so-called (so-called, because they're not really) "Assault Rifles" were banned by manufacture and model. Make a cosmetic change and slap on a new model number.
How can this be applicable here? The Utah AG is going ban sites by name. How fast can he update the list? How fast can he distribute it? Answer: not fast enough!
Consider this example of a workaround. A page with absolutely no infringing content that can't be legally banned. On it a link stating "Utah residents click here to access our site". Link changes daily -- even hourly. How do you put the target site on a ban list and distribute it fast enough? Won't happen.
This law is a feel good farce that won't stop anyone with an ounce of inventiveness on the web. End of comment.
Now if you have some way to randomize this paper trail so that it can't be referenced back to any individual voter, then I might feel better about it.
Oh really? Now that sounds like the dying gasp of another zelot. Having had Steve Jobs finally tell you it's okay to condem the processor, you still claim everything else Mac is better than the PC.
What exactly is ahead hardware wise? PCI slots? Nvidia video cards? AGP slot (oops). USB keyboards and mice? Audio? Just what other everything are you talking about? The power switch?
And how much of that will make the transition to an Intel Mac? Jobs is going to be using Intel chipsets in conjunction with his Intel CPU's. Same thing Dell uses.
You, Sir, are still a zelot, and one grasping at crumbs. Mac hasn't even gotten to an onboard RAID controller, although they'll get one with Intel finally.
1: No speed increases in PPC Macs for the next year, unless they are very expensive models that won't compete with mainstream Intel boxes when they're introduced.
2: Give Intel a year to catch up, which is a generation in computer processor years.
Conclusion: It's going to be a tough year to be a Mac owner.
Second Conclusion: I wonder how well OSX will run on an AMD?
Now who are the Real Pirates?
2: A year from now Intel will have boatloads of VT (Virtualization Technology nee Vanderpool) enabled chips available. So unless there's an SSE4 instruction set hiding somewhere, expect Apple to make use of this feature which, coincidentally will prevent OSX from running on all the old Pentium 4's out there, as well as AMD chips since Pacifica does the same things, but with different instructions.
That sounds like a Scott Adams pesudonym if I ever read one.
Because without a doubt you will quickly become someone else's fallguy.
2: If you're a conservative, keep it to yourself ALWAYS! If you're a liberal (somewhere to the left of Howard Dean) then it's okay to speak carefully and discreetly -- and after everyone else has had their say first.
3: You are in the absolute bastion of Political Correctness. A lot of it will be abysmally stupid. Don't ever point that out to ANYONE! Just nod silently and move along. There's nothing you can do about it anyway.
4: You are in the breeding ground for sexually harassed females in training. Be as respectful to any female -- especially any unattractive female -- as you are to the cop who just pulled you over for doing 50mph in the school zone just as the last points were about to drop off your license.
5: Diversity good! Affirmative Action good! Repeat this loud and often. And never forget that "Diversity" doesn't really mean true diversity. It means their one and only single definition of diversity.
6: Try not to have a job that anyone in the university with power will want to take away from you and give to their best friend/drinking buddy/lazy son who needs a job.
7: If someone tells you that you should be part of the Union, just say yes and hand over your money.
8: Understand that your lower pay should be offset by better medical coverage, retirement (if you stay that long) benefits, and low cost or free educational benefits (which you should take maximum advantage of).
9: If there's a probation period, be ESPECIALLY CAREFUL until you've passed it.
That should get you through the first week.
Dealing with the Slashdot Effect[tm] is something else entirely.
Having your story told on Slashdot: PRICELESS!
Which would then require about a zillion additional hardware drivers for OSX.
Now if he'd put it into a Cube, that would have been interesting!
Allow me to rephrase: Some people think it's worth more than Time Warner.
What does WinMX bring to the table?
Oh, gee, really? You can't get any of the other major promised features into Longhorn, but you're going to put this in now. How much sense does this make?