they did bring in Bob Dole a lot during the coverage (I noticed him there more during the National Conventions). Actually that guy has a great sense of humor and a great personality. He was a good fit for the show, given the events that they were covering. --------
"Counting in octal is just like counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
...and then once the code is handed over to Alan Cox (a known member of the freemasons), all of the members will unite in the super secret base in Black Mesa Labs in New Mexico and fly to mars and live in the face that they carved there and be reunited with their leader, Jimmy Hoffa.
conspiracy theories, they're great --------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
that's fair enough, so I suppose that I should refine my statement to read: "[i am a person] who would rather place their trust in an open, common standard than in a hidden company that requires 'blind faith'."
I find that security through obscutiry falls into the category of blind faith since only a few people have full knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes. --------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
The only truly effective answer to the question "who watches the watchers" must be "the public themselves".
pardon my ignorance but is there an "open / free" (im using the terms loosely and not interchangebly) CA out there? I know that there was an Ask Slashdot about why SSL Certs are so expensive (here for the curious). I agree with the position that certs are issued typically for piece of mind, but would it be practical to implement an open standard of secure communication specifically for browser / server communications or is SSH adequate for this? Obviously Im not a security expert, but I am a concerned person who would rather place their trust in an open standard than in a hidden company that requires "blind faith"
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"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
not trying to sound flame-ish. Much software out in the great big world today is not fully owned by the person running that software. You may own the computer, but you can't do a whole lot with a computer which has no software (unless you really like coding). Think of it as a EULA-gy for your computer.
While I see your point, your visitor analogy has a lot of holes in it.
- the people that you invite into your house leave eventually, and when they do leave they dont' tear down the house in the process (unlike some browsers that I have uninstalled)
- it is expected that the people in your house don't fight over resources in the house and kill each other trying to get these resources
- i don't know about you, but I don't pick my visitors based upon who dresses the nicest (which software has the best box), sadly many people do. --------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
Personally, Im not going to comment. I think that it is too soon to tell. Once there is an actual product out and it has been reviewed thoroughly (meaning that either I sit down and give it a shot or a trusted source like Dr Dobbs Journal comments on it) I am not going to give an opinion.
I do agree that it is important to be a little leary of what has been said, but I don't feel that it is to early to proclaim victory or assume that Microsoft's strategy is purely selfish and they are going to make Linux look bad.
Right now the best thing that the community can do is to keep an eye on what they [Microsoft] are doing and be aware of the potential steps they could take in ANY direction. Then it will be fair to react accordingly. --------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
If they are truly targeting the casual copier, then I don't see this as a very productive approach. A casual copier would make an attepmt at copying the CD, notice that it failed and then move on to the next CD. I don't know if they are saying one thing and doing another under the guise of "casual" protection (ie: saying that they are trying to stop casual copying but actually implementing this to stop the high volume copiers).
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"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
As the above poster has mentioned it is important to understand the differences in the degrees. When I went away to school I started of as and ECE (Electrical Computer Engineer). I knew that I liked programming, but had little experience in it. I knew that I liked electronics, and likewise had little experience in them. ECE was a major that I chose knowing that I was going to pick one either Computer Science or Electrical Engineering, not both (that would be an XOR:).
The first year focused mainly on EE (Circuits I & II). The second year focused more on the software side (CompSci I & II and 8086 assembly). After two years of core classes and a taste of both sides, I decided to declare myself as a CompSci major. I found that the theroy and the "newness" of CompSci as a field of study really appealed to me. I have always enjoyed programming and applying the theory that has been taught to me. I found EE to be very limiting and very black and white (not literally as in gates).
Bottom line is that it depends on what you enjoy, I think that people should be able to explore more majors here in the US (don't know how schools work in other countries), but had I not chosen my major to be ECE then I would have ended up doing EE instead of CS and I would be in a job that I don't enjoy as much as I do now.
I wish you luck in your endeavors. --------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
Im with you on that one, after reading the responses to this article, I realized that some people recompile their kernels WAY too much. I like Linux (and I do my own kernel builds) - but DANG!!! I didn't even know (or care to know) that there were so many switches / options for the friggin kernel build. I feel old....
If Linux were a beer, it would be shipped in open barrels so that anybody could piss in it before delivery.
Nice sig, too bad it goes both ways. Try these analogies: If Windows was a beer... it would be sealed shut so that you have no idea what they put in your drink. On the side of the keg there is a warning saying that 1 in 5 kegs explode when you tap them. Some of the beers you pour will be flat forcing you to dump out your beer and pour another one. The beer tastes like shit, it makes you sick and lots of people laugh at you for drinking it, but you keep doing it (oh wait, that was my Budweiser analogy).
Hate to burst your bubble, but they're not using more machinery - they've just enabled teleoperation of the normal machinery that the mine has always been using
You mean that miners are telecomuting? What IS this world coming to.
It is unfortunate to see the BSD users shoot themselves in the foot. The spread of Free Operating Systems has been successful recently through two avenues: word of mouth, and free exposure. TuCows is a great site that gets a significant number of hits with great regularity. This kind of free exposure doesn't come by everyday, and to have the overly excitable few go out and ruin it for a larger majority is truly sad.
It is one thing to be critical, it is another to ruin a good cause through over criticism.
My suggestion is to switch to decaf, it helps cut down on the knee-jerk reactions that seem to be so typical of the Free Software crowd. It also tastes just as good as regular with none of the zealot side effects.
why would CA build more plants when they can just leach off of the rest of us. California uses almost 56% of the electricity produced from Hoover Dam (which sits on the Nevada / Arizona border). Since they can't ruin their environment, they'll let the other states suffer for them. Oh and for those of you who bitch about sources, yor can see for yourself at the Hoover Dam FAQ
and if you look at the NASDAQ as a whole, every company on there will be at or below 7 bucks by the end of next week. The market is doing a lot of things right now, it is weeding out the companies that IPO'd within the last 2-3 years that have no product and no revenue model. It is also overcompensating for the companies that do have a revenue models that are not doing as phenominally well as some of the fooish "get rich quick" investors had hoped.
Red Hat is not a multi-trillion dollar company, odds are that it won't be - but that doesn't mean that it is not a successful company. Just because a company doesn't completely dominate a market by ruling with a strangle hold doesn't mean that it is not a successful company.
the people in my office see me using netscape 6 mail client (one of the few things in NS6 that actually works for me) and they say to me...."this is the mail for netscape??? _I_ could use this."
once you show people that there is another way other than Microsoft, they usually are pretty receptive to it. Have the patience to sit and explain to them (the PHBs) and hope that they will listen.
it is a double edged sword, and I openly admit to not fully understanding every possible consequence (that is my little disclaimer).
I look at owning a domain name like owning a piece of real estate. It should remain on the public record. I recently (within the last 2 months) bought a condo here in the states and was overwhelmed, appalled and annoyed at the fact that I reveived SOOOO much junk mail from people offering me their services as a "new neighbor." However this is a consequence that I have to live with.
Oh the flip side, I bought the property as an investment and have since been contacted by several realtors who have expressed interest in a client of theirs purchasing the property. I have not marketed this property, but they have access to this information through public records.
Domain names are (IMHO) like real estate, and the information of their owners should remain as public domain. It truly is a double edged sword, but it is just a price that we all pay for information being free.
actually the surplus of the letter 'E' that existed aproximately 10 years ago due to our education system has been compensated for by the presence of the internet and its trendy e-commerce businesses.
"I can't wait for the day when the letter 'E' resumes its rightful place as the fifth letter in the alphabet" (this isn't the exact quote and I don't know who said it, but it wasn't me) --------------------------------------------
you might want to go see a doctor before you infect us all with your nasty cough. That is 2 posts that you have put here that indicate you have a cold...and it appears to be getting worse, your second post has much more coughing in it.
before you mod this down, just laugh...its funny.
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Was it just me or did the writer of this article sound just a little like a baptist minister?
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some of the things in this artivle actually have other applications to people who aren't necessarily concerned with prolongint their lives also. Myself being a diabetic, hearing that they have found new ways to attach islet cells to the pancrease is personally VERY exciting to me.
It means many things, no more injections, no more monitoring of diet, no more blood tests....even if these events aren't applied to prolonging the lives of the rich, the research could help the lives of those like me who weren't born with good parts. --------------------------------------------
Great first post This is a pretty much OT, but this story really isn't one to take too seriously (as far as the LINUX relation to it goes)... but this morning I was watching the Today Show on NBC as I was having my morning cup of coffee (I don't think this is an international show...I could easily be wrong) I noticed that they had their usual gathering of people outside the studio holding up banners and waving "hi." Except this morning was different, there was a guy in the back holding up a banner that said "LINUX RULES." That really made my morning. --------------------------------------------
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they did bring in Bob Dole a lot during the coverage (I noticed him there more during the National Conventions). Actually that guy has a great sense of humor and a great personality. He was a good fit for the show, given the events that they were covering.
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"Counting in octal is just like counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
...and then once the code is handed over to Alan Cox (a known member of the freemasons), all of the members will unite in the super secret base in Black Mesa Labs in New Mexico and fly to mars and live in the face that they carved there and be reunited with their leader, Jimmy Hoffa.
conspiracy theories, they're great
--------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
that's fair enough, so I suppose that I should refine my statement to read: "[i am a person] who would rather place their trust in an open, common standard than in a hidden company that requires 'blind faith'."
I find that security through obscutiry falls into the category of blind faith since only a few people have full knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes.
--------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
The only truly effective answer to the question "who watches the watchers" must be "the public themselves".
pardon my ignorance but is there an "open / free" (im using the terms loosely and not interchangebly) CA out there? I know that there was an Ask Slashdot about why SSL Certs are so expensive (here for the curious). I agree with the position that certs are issued typically for piece of mind, but would it be practical to implement an open standard of secure communication specifically for browser / server communications or is SSH adequate for this? Obviously Im not a security expert, but I am a concerned person who would rather place their trust in an open standard than in a hidden company that requires "blind faith"
--------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
not trying to sound flame-ish. Much software out in the great big world today is not fully owned by the person running that software. You may own the computer, but you can't do a whole lot with a computer which has no software (unless you really like coding). Think of it as a EULA-gy for your computer.
While I see your point, your visitor analogy has a lot of holes in it.
- the people that you invite into your house leave eventually, and when they do leave they dont' tear down the house in the process (unlike some browsers that I have uninstalled)
- it is expected that the people in your house don't fight over resources in the house and kill each other trying to get these resources
- i don't know about you, but I don't pick my visitors based upon who dresses the nicest (which software has the best box), sadly many people do.
--------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
Personally, Im not going to comment. I think that it is too soon to tell. Once there is an actual product out and it has been reviewed thoroughly (meaning that either I sit down and give it a shot or a trusted source like Dr Dobbs Journal comments on it) I am not going to give an opinion.
I do agree that it is important to be a little leary of what has been said, but I don't feel that it is to early to proclaim victory or assume that Microsoft's strategy is purely selfish and they are going to make Linux look bad.
Right now the best thing that the community can do is to keep an eye on what they [Microsoft] are doing and be aware of the potential steps they could take in ANY direction. Then it will be fair to react accordingly.
--------
"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
If they are truly targeting the casual copier, then I don't see this as a very productive approach. A casual copier would make an attepmt at copying the CD, notice that it failed and then move on to the next CD. I don't know if they are saying one thing and doing another under the guise of "casual" protection (ie: saying that they are trying to stop casual copying but actually implementing this to stop the high volume copiers).
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"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
As the above poster has mentioned it is important to understand the differences in the degrees. When I went away to school I started of as and ECE (Electrical Computer Engineer). I knew that I liked programming, but had little experience in it. I knew that I liked electronics, and likewise had little experience in them. ECE was a major that I chose knowing that I was going to pick one either Computer Science or Electrical Engineering, not both (that would be an XOR :).
The first year focused mainly on EE (Circuits I & II). The second year focused more on the software side (CompSci I & II and 8086 assembly). After two years of core classes and a taste of both sides, I decided to declare myself as a CompSci major. I found that the theroy and the "newness" of CompSci as a field of study really appealed to me. I have always enjoyed programming and applying the theory that has been taught to me. I found EE to be very limiting and very black and white (not literally as in gates).
Bottom line is that it depends on what you enjoy, I think that people should be able to explore more majors here in the US (don't know how schools work in other countries), but had I not chosen my major to be ECE then I would have ended up doing EE instead of CS and I would be in a job that I don't enjoy as much as I do now.
I wish you luck in your endeavors.
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"Counting in octal is just likst counting in decimal--if you don't use your thumbs."
just a little note:
Albert Einstein didn't even remember his own phone number. He said it was in the book, so it would be a waste of his mind to remember it.
quote taken from here (a goatse.cx free link, I promise).
Im with you on that one, after reading the responses to this article, I realized that some people recompile their kernels WAY too much. I like Linux (and I do my own kernel builds) - but DANG!!! I didn't even know (or care to know) that there were so many switches / options for the friggin kernel build. I feel old....
he took the red pill...
If Linux were a beer, it would be shipped in open barrels so that anybody could piss in it before delivery.
Nice sig, too bad it goes both ways. Try these analogies:
If Windows was a beer...
it would be sealed shut so that you have no idea what they put in your drink.
On the side of the keg there is a warning saying that 1 in 5 kegs explode when you tap them.
Some of the beers you pour will be flat forcing you to dump out your beer and pour another one.
The beer tastes like shit, it makes you sick and lots of people laugh at you for drinking it, but you keep doing it (oh wait, that was my Budweiser analogy).
Hate to burst your bubble, but they're not using more machinery - they've just enabled teleoperation of the normal machinery that the mine has always been using
You mean that miners are telecomuting? What IS this world coming to.
It is unfortunate to see the BSD users shoot themselves in the foot. The spread of Free Operating Systems has been successful recently through two avenues: word of mouth, and free exposure. TuCows is a great site that gets a significant number of hits with great regularity. This kind of free exposure doesn't come by everyday, and to have the overly excitable few go out and ruin it for a larger majority is truly sad.
It is one thing to be critical, it is another to ruin a good cause through over criticism.
My suggestion is to switch to decaf, it helps cut down on the knee-jerk reactions that seem to be so typical of the Free Software crowd. It also tastes just as good as regular with none of the zealot side effects.
why would CA build more plants when they can just leach off of the rest of us. California uses almost 56% of the electricity produced from Hoover Dam (which sits on the Nevada / Arizona border). Since they can't ruin their environment, they'll let the other states suffer for them. Oh and for those of you who bitch about sources, yor can see for yourself at the Hoover Dam FAQ
Id like to start the bidding at five dollars (US).
and if you look at the NASDAQ as a whole, every company on there will be at or below 7 bucks by the end of next week. The market is doing a lot of things right now, it is weeding out the companies that IPO'd within the last 2-3 years that have no product and no revenue model. It is also overcompensating for the companies that do have a revenue models that are not doing as phenominally well as some of the fooish "get rich quick" investors had hoped.
Red Hat is not a multi-trillion dollar company, odds are that it won't be - but that doesn't mean that it is not a successful company. Just because a company doesn't completely dominate a market by ruling with a strangle hold doesn't mean that it is not a successful company.
Linux kernel fork....Torvalds family fork...I think that I see a correlation forming here.
Congrats to Linus and the entire Torvalds family
the people in my office see me using netscape 6 mail client (one of the few things in NS6 that actually works for me) and they say to me...."this is the mail for netscape??? _I_ could use this." once you show people that there is another way other than Microsoft, they usually are pretty receptive to it. Have the patience to sit and explain to them (the PHBs) and hope that they will listen.
it is a double edged sword, and I openly admit to not fully understanding every possible consequence (that is my little disclaimer).
I look at owning a domain name like owning a piece of real estate. It should remain on the public record. I recently (within the last 2 months) bought a condo here in the states and was overwhelmed, appalled and annoyed at the fact that I reveived SOOOO much junk mail from people offering me their services as a "new neighbor." However this is a consequence that I have to live with.
Oh the flip side, I bought the property as an investment and have since been contacted by several realtors who have expressed interest in a client of theirs purchasing the property. I have not marketed this property, but they have access to this information through public records.
Domain names are (IMHO) like real estate, and the information of their owners should remain as public domain. It truly is a double edged sword, but it is just a price that we all pay for information being free.
actually the surplus of the letter 'E' that existed aproximately 10 years ago due to our education system has been compensated for by the presence of the internet and its trendy e-commerce businesses.
"I can't wait for the day when the letter 'E' resumes its rightful place as the fifth letter in the alphabet"
(this isn't the exact quote and I don't know who said it, but it wasn't me)
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you might want to go see a doctor before you infect us all with your nasty cough. That is 2 posts that you have put here that indicate you have a cold...and it appears to be getting worse, your second post has much more coughing in it.
before you mod this down, just laugh...its funny.
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Was it just me or did the writer of this article sound just a little like a baptist minister?
- -
[VOICE STYLE="minister from Simpsons]
I have SEEN-ah the light, and it is-ah the X-box
[/VOICE]
Thank Jehovah for impartial media
------------------------------------------
some of the things in this artivle actually have other applications to people who aren't necessarily concerned with prolongint their lives also. Myself being a diabetic, hearing that they have found new ways to attach islet cells to the pancrease is personally VERY exciting to me.
It means many things, no more injections, no more monitoring of diet, no more blood tests....even if these events aren't applied to prolonging the lives of the rich, the research could help the lives of those like me who weren't born with good parts.
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Great first post
This is a pretty much OT, but this story really isn't one to take too seriously (as far as the LINUX relation to it goes)... but this morning I was watching the Today Show on NBC as I was having my morning cup of coffee (I don't think this is an international show...I could easily be wrong) I noticed that they had their usual gathering of people outside the studio holding up banners and waving "hi." Except this morning was different, there was a guy in the back holding up a banner that said "LINUX RULES." That really made my morning.
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