I never had that problem, both in ubuntu and contemporary debian (lenny, etc.)
But another major aspect is there are many thousands of packages, all accessible after a default installation. No need to enable additional or dubious repositories yourself and for a few occurrences using a ppa is easy enough. You can look for all sorts of unusual, cool or useful software with a few apt-cache search|sort commands, even software you would never have found about or didn't know you needed (or have a use for).
There was one surprise with the package manager, "apt-get remove plymouth". Let's get rid of that splashcreen with uses CPU and hides stuff. The result : "this very long list of every package installed is the sum of what will be removed, do you want to destroy your whole system for no reason? [y/n]" (wording mine) Ummm... a good thing I wasn't tempted to say "yes".
Ubuntu 15.10 is likely precisely what's needed - linux 4.2 feels bleeding edge. Should work with recent Intel graphics (never buy anything with PowerVR unless it's strictly for Windows or Android..) and acts as a stop gap to Ubuntu 16.04 or Mint 18. Then everything will be great - in a very small window before new hardware is released again.
I tried LMDE Cinnamon, and the fact it comes with some "new style" Gnome 3 apps was the feature I disliked. (or you get them when installing them, such as the gnome minesweeper). I don't feel like caring for the "proper" version of gtk3 : the applications feel more out of place than Windows, Java or Qt ones.
Cinnamon's "fallback" is very crude : you get a good looking desktop but window management is disabled. "Survival mode" really (where the best thing you can do is to switch graphics driver back to run the 3D desktop, or sudo apt-get install lxde)
Mint Mate has applications that fit with it (like pdf reader etc.) and the Mint tools like update manager etc. fit well on all desktops, I can't tell without checking or trying hard if they're running gtk2 or gtk3. The panels are fully working with drag'n'drop too. Applets are not plentiful or are old but what's there is useful. Perhaps on straight Ubuntu (or even on something like Red Hat and Fedora) you feel more "integrated" with Gnome fallback and thus there's more of a rationale for it.
See the Roche limit, this term describes the boundary where you are at risk of disintegrating. A small moon around a gas giant would end up as big Saturnian rings. Yes ocean tides would be a very tiny version, or Jupiter melting Io is more dramatic but not quite disintegrating.
If the moon came much closer I'm sure we'd have no danger of the Earth disintegrating but perhaps we would all be dead from earthquakes and tsunamis (or worse)
If your laptop is really old, or with an old desktop graphics card - including early PCI Express ones - you may have an S-Video output, and converting that to RCA is done by a really dumb adapter (I think the two signals from S-Video become composite video when electrically mixed) For instance I have a radeon X1550 here (overheating but low power piece of junk, would need a fan added) with TV output. Geforce 7600GT with TV out too. Thus desktop junk can connect to the TV.
VGA to video converters existed in the 90s. Thus shopping for an antique item is one option. European TV may have it better : SCART connector allows RGB, and VGA can be set to the right 15.6KHz scan rate and options (but accidentally send 1024x768 or 1366x768 etc. to the old TV and perhaps that will fry the output.)
Without javascript I believe you can't log in to many websites, including some major webmail. Perhaps you use a mail client. Maybe have some free mail service you subscribed to before they closed it off because they can't manage 1 million+ accounts. I want to do like you do, but I would end up with a monthly email bill and reloading the whole page to load or display slashdot comments.
Getting infected before installing updates was real, I had it happen back then. Even without running Internet Explorer to get firefox and drivers, yes.
You are fairly wrong here, Intel has had the 4790K which is 4GHz base and 4.4GHz turbo clock, it is slightly more power hungry than the 3.x ones. 6700K is more of the same. Or get a Pentium 3258 on H81 motherboard and set the clock at 4.4GHz, use its integrated video on linux. It's a dog bone they threw at us.
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These have Mate forks, perhaps unsurprisingly. Gedit becomes pluma, evince is atril, and then mate-terminal. There is also the evince 2.32 build for Windows, useful as it just works with a clean UI and is really free.
I happen to like these tools but it's simply what I'm used to. I use mate-terminal with the menu bar disabled (really gnome-terminal 2.x), one amongst the family of libvte terminals (xfce4-terminal, lxterminal, roxterm...) that feels very slightly better than the others. Here a screenshot of pluma. It's mostly a glorified notepad or paste buffer for me. Very fine for that, tabs and a UI not fucked up. http://pix.toile-libre.org/?im...
Not shown is the low contrast scrollbar without arrow buttons. That sucks sometimes (e.g. on a laptop with touchpad I might want to click the arrow like it's Windows 3.1 times, because the other ways to scroll suck too) but looks out of the way. Yes the gtk3 file open dialog sucks ball next to the gtk2 one ; my system has both depending on the app. Windows (at least 95 to 7) gets them right for damn's sake. Yep if we had to decide choice of OS or environment on that I would choose Windows, drive letters are easier to use than the flat hierarchy.
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Will they throw away KDE 5 (that they say you can't call KDE 5) when it's done and replace it with KDE 6? That puts me off:) Gnome 2 has stayed the same (with a rename to Mate) whereas KDE had two transitions during that time.
A desktop should last 10 years, or even 15 years.
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Windows replaced Unix workstations. What Unix workstations did linux can't do, like running a 10-year-old binary, Windows can.
Windows now has a disproportionally advanced graphics stack, while linux is still waiting for Wayland coming when, 2017? By then 18-year-olds will be facebooking, touch-wiping idiots that don't know how to use a computer. They'll laugh at you for plugging a USB stick at the computer and using a file manager. Weird that Wayland wasn't available in 2012 (as in selectable in the installer with debian and ubuntu) and stable in 2014.
Pretty much, you have to be spied on to play a legit game, by a few big companies that maintain a list of your games and when and where you install or play them.
Who ever interacts with the init system on a desktop? It does not solve your sound or graphics problems or game and application compatibility, and it's arcane enough that you might as well uninstall a daemon instead of disabling it, on the once every two years occurrence you might need to do it.
What is 0x0FE911, quick? I have no good idea. Well, likely some light green but I've just made it up. Now what's the color for caramel? ummm..
Human issues aside, while your proposition nets a technically unambiguous color (in some circumstances at that) every one's monitor is different and few people have it calibrated, so people would use wildly different numbers for the same intended color.
Yes, try to guilt us because we're not agreeing with your cold war nostalgia. By secretly hoping to become a billionaire and fly into space before you die, you're helping your corporate overlords just fine.
While we're busy driving automobiles, and fixing them all the time, and stopping at every town to fill the water radiator again : the proprietary software people travel in exquisite horse cars, leave details to a professional coach driver and come home to a well kept house decorated in high taste, furnished with high quality items and taken care of by dependable servants. I hope we're not getting the bad end of the deal...
"Funny" thing on ubuntu 14.04 : you have a google-earth-stable package that is an outdated version you're more likely to have trouble with. And it can't display the little pictures leaving you wondering why that doesn't work. So you need to get the other one.
Wow. I'll admit to reinstalling an OS just not to have to deal with grub2 myself. And rather than finding a way to make it boot the older kernel I decided to remove all the kernels I didn't want to boot (with a GUI no less). After the shock of grub2 being "helpful" (as in try to modify configuration, then it's overwritten because it's dynamic) I had figured out how to make changes back then.
I get it but I'm a bit surprised. I think of Haswell graphics as powerful, though 15W Haswell surely is significantly slower than 15W Broadwell or Skylake, or 37W Haswell.
This is a good solution for the problem that we aren't keen on eating the family dog when it's done and the dog is a lost cause. With a micro pig pet, it would be a crime not to eat him!
I heard the story of grandpa being like 10 year old or less during the war when they had to cook his rabbit friend, now that was heart breaking.
Even a basic wiki or any kind of system (let's say internal IM or some stuff to schedule when the meeting room gets used) may get approved, set up and then virtually unused. Or in stronger terms it will be unused.
e.g. the tags attached to slashdot stories. At least I've noticed that today clicking on them brings a list of stories (it used to not work I think). But it is likely that 80% of stories (or a lot more) that would warrant relating to a given tag are missing, and many tags were one-time snarky remarks. Now that they don't fail they do seem to bring very interesting content though.
Semantics technology seems ideal for e.g. a database of animal or botanical species with people paid to exhaustively maintain the data. Or a collection of towns, some "booming", some "decaying", some linked to others in a certain way? Thus you may want to define some areas of knowledge where the semantical features will really be used more than in others, and somehow get it enforced through policy?
I didn't use an adblocker till about last year. The death of the Flashblock extension played a large part but seeing as 2GB RAM can be too short for web browsing these days, ads have become too big for wasting CPU/RAM on. The privacy implications have become more of a concern too (seeing as a site like f...book will log every click and mouse over for all of eternity!). Even taking a few vital and easy privacy steps the web is a privacy nightmare, like water that contains only 20% piss.
We had it better when the crap still needed to be compatible with IE 6.
I never had that problem, both in ubuntu and contemporary debian (lenny, etc.)
But another major aspect is there are many thousands of packages, all accessible after a default installation. No need to enable additional or dubious repositories yourself and for a few occurrences using a ppa is easy enough.
You can look for all sorts of unusual, cool or useful software with a few apt-cache search|sort commands, even software you would never have found about or didn't know you needed (or have a use for).
There was one surprise with the package manager, "apt-get remove plymouth". Let's get rid of that splashcreen with uses CPU and hides stuff. The result : "this very long list of every package installed is the sum of what will be removed, do you want to destroy your whole system for no reason? [y/n]" (wording mine)
Ummm... a good thing I wasn't tempted to say "yes".
Ubuntu 15.10 is likely precisely what's needed - linux 4.2 feels bleeding edge.
Should work with recent Intel graphics (never buy anything with PowerVR unless it's strictly for Windows or Android..) and acts as a stop gap to Ubuntu 16.04 or Mint 18.
Then everything will be great - in a very small window before new hardware is released again.
I tried LMDE Cinnamon, and the fact it comes with some "new style" Gnome 3 apps was the feature I disliked.
(or you get them when installing them, such as the gnome minesweeper). I don't feel like caring for the "proper" version of gtk3 : the applications feel more out of place than Windows, Java or Qt ones.
Cinnamon's "fallback" is very crude : you get a good looking desktop but window management is disabled. "Survival mode" really (where the best thing you can do is to switch graphics driver back to run the 3D desktop, or sudo apt-get install lxde)
Mint Mate has applications that fit with it (like pdf reader etc.) and the Mint tools like update manager etc. fit well on all desktops, I can't tell without checking or trying hard if they're running gtk2 or gtk3. The panels are fully working with drag'n'drop too. Applets are not plentiful or are old but what's there is useful.
Perhaps on straight Ubuntu (or even on something like Red Hat and Fedora) you feel more "integrated" with Gnome fallback and thus there's more of a rationale for it.
See the Roche limit, this term describes the boundary where you are at risk of disintegrating. A small moon around a gas giant would end up as big Saturnian rings.
Yes ocean tides would be a very tiny version, or Jupiter melting Io is more dramatic but not quite disintegrating.
If the moon came much closer I'm sure we'd have no danger of the Earth disintegrating but perhaps we would all be dead from earthquakes and tsunamis (or worse)
If your laptop is really old, or with an old desktop graphics card - including early PCI Express ones - you may have an S-Video output, and converting that to RCA is done by a really dumb adapter (I think the two signals from S-Video become composite video when electrically mixed)
For instance I have a radeon X1550 here (overheating but low power piece of junk, would need a fan added) with TV output. Geforce 7600GT with TV out too. Thus desktop junk can connect to the TV.
VGA to video converters existed in the 90s. Thus shopping for an antique item is one option.
European TV may have it better : SCART connector allows RGB, and VGA can be set to the right 15.6KHz scan rate and options (but accidentally send 1024x768 or 1366x768 etc. to the old TV and perhaps that will fry the output.)
Without javascript I believe you can't log in to many websites, including some major webmail.
Perhaps you use a mail client. Maybe have some free mail service you subscribed to before they closed it off because they can't manage 1 million+ accounts.
I want to do like you do, but I would end up with a monthly email bill and reloading the whole page to load or display slashdot comments.
Getting infected before installing updates was real, I had it happen back then.
Even without running Internet Explorer to get firefox and drivers, yes.
You are fairly wrong here, Intel has had the 4790K which is 4GHz base and 4.4GHz turbo clock, it is slightly more power hungry than the 3.x ones. 6700K is more of the same.
Or get a Pentium 3258 on H81 motherboard and set the clock at 4.4GHz, use its integrated video on linux. It's a dog bone they threw at us.
These have Mate forks, perhaps unsurprisingly. Gedit becomes pluma, evince is atril, and then mate-terminal.
There is also the evince 2.32 build for Windows, useful as it just works with a clean UI and is really free.
I happen to like these tools but it's simply what I'm used to. I use mate-terminal with the menu bar disabled (really gnome-terminal 2.x), one amongst the family of libvte terminals (xfce4-terminal, lxterminal, roxterm...) that feels very slightly better than the others.
Here a screenshot of pluma. It's mostly a glorified notepad or paste buffer for me. Very fine for that, tabs and a UI not fucked up.
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?im...
Not shown is the low contrast scrollbar without arrow buttons. That sucks sometimes (e.g. on a laptop with touchpad I might want to click the arrow like it's Windows 3.1 times, because the other ways to scroll suck too) but looks out of the way.
Yes the gtk3 file open dialog sucks ball next to the gtk2 one ; my system has both depending on the app. Windows (at least 95 to 7) gets them right for damn's sake. Yep if we had to decide choice of OS or environment on that I would choose Windows, drive letters are easier to use than the flat hierarchy.
Will they throw away KDE 5 (that they say you can't call KDE 5) when it's done and replace it with KDE 6? :)
That puts me off
Gnome 2 has stayed the same (with a rename to Mate) whereas KDE had two transitions during that time.
A desktop should last 10 years, or even 15 years.
Windows replaced Unix workstations. What Unix workstations did linux can't do, like running a 10-year-old binary, Windows can.
Windows now has a disproportionally advanced graphics stack, while linux is still waiting for Wayland coming when, 2017? By then 18-year-olds will be facebooking, touch-wiping idiots that don't know how to use a computer. They'll laugh at you for plugging a USB stick at the computer and using a file manager.
Weird that Wayland wasn't available in 2012 (as in selectable in the installer with debian and ubuntu) and stable in 2014.
Pretty much, you have to be spied on to play a legit game, by a few big companies that maintain a list of your games and when and where you install or play them.
Who ever interacts with the init system on a desktop?
It does not solve your sound or graphics problems or game and application compatibility, and it's arcane enough that you might as well uninstall a daemon instead of disabling it, on the once every two years occurrence you might need to do it.
What is 0x0FE911, quick? I have no good idea. Well, likely some light green but I've just made it up.
Now what's the color for caramel? ummm..
Human issues aside, while your proposition nets a technically unambiguous color (in some circumstances at that) every one's monitor is different and few people have it calibrated, so people would use wildly different numbers for the same intended color.
You could conceivably use some initrd.gz kind of file.
Bro is generic compression, not video files.
You should post the actual link instead of a link shortener?
Link shorteners hurt my sensibility. It's as it you made fun of the dwarves and crippled
Yes, try to guilt us because we're not agreeing with your cold war nostalgia.
By secretly hoping to become a billionaire and fly into space before you die, you're helping your corporate overlords just fine.
While we're busy driving automobiles, and fixing them all the time, and stopping at every town to fill the water radiator again : the proprietary software people travel in exquisite horse cars, leave details to a professional coach driver and come home to a well kept house decorated in high taste, furnished with high quality items and taken care of by dependable servants.
I hope we're not getting the bad end of the deal...
"Funny" thing on ubuntu 14.04 : you have a google-earth-stable package that is an outdated version you're more likely to have trouble with. And it can't display the little pictures leaving you wondering why that doesn't work. So you need to get the other one.
Wow. I'll admit to reinstalling an OS just not to have to deal with grub2 myself. And rather than finding a way to make it boot the older kernel I decided to remove all the kernels I didn't want to boot (with a GUI no less).
After the shock of grub2 being "helpful" (as in try to modify configuration, then it's overwritten because it's dynamic) I had figured out how to make changes back then.
Nope. You are eaten BY your pet, that neighbours eat then.
I get it but I'm a bit surprised. I think of Haswell graphics as powerful, though 15W Haswell surely is significantly slower than 15W Broadwell or Skylake, or 37W Haswell.
This is a good solution for the problem that we aren't keen on eating the family dog when it's done and the dog is a lost cause. With a micro pig pet, it would be a crime not to eat him!
I heard the story of grandpa being like 10 year old or less during the war when they had to cook his rabbit friend, now that was heart breaking.
Even a basic wiki or any kind of system (let's say internal IM or some stuff to schedule when the meeting room gets used) may get approved, set up and then virtually unused. Or in stronger terms it will be unused.
e.g. the tags attached to slashdot stories. At least I've noticed that today clicking on them brings a list of stories (it used to not work I think). But it is likely that 80% of stories (or a lot more) that would warrant relating to a given tag are missing, and many tags were one-time snarky remarks. Now that they don't fail they do seem to bring very interesting content though.
Semantics technology seems ideal for e.g. a database of animal or botanical species with people paid to exhaustively maintain the data. Or a collection of towns, some "booming", some "decaying", some linked to others in a certain way?
Thus you may want to define some areas of knowledge where the semantical features will really be used more than in others, and somehow get it enforced through policy?
I didn't use an adblocker till about last year. The death of the Flashblock extension played a large part but seeing as 2GB RAM can be too short for web browsing these days, ads have become too big for wasting CPU/RAM on.
The privacy implications have become more of a concern too (seeing as a site like f...book will log every click and mouse over for all of eternity!). Even taking a few vital and easy privacy steps the web is a privacy nightmare, like water that contains only 20% piss.
We had it better when the crap still needed to be compatible with IE 6.