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Windows 10 Upgrades Are Being Forced On Some Users (arstechnica.com)
grimmjeeper writes: According to Ars Technica the Windows 10 upgrade option is being selected by default for some users. A dialogue box is appearing that only permits them to reschedule the upgrade process, not cancel it. "For the first year of its availability, Windows 10 is available for free to most Windows 7 and 8 users, and Microsoft has been trying to coax those users to make the switch by delivering the operating system through Windows Update. Until now, the OS has been delivered as an optional update; while Windows Update gives it prominent positioning, it shouldn't be installed automatically. This system has already generated some complaints, as Windows Update will download the sizeable operating system installer even if you don't intend to upgrade any time soon, but, over the last couple of days, the situation seems to have become a little more aggressive. We've received a number of reports that people's systems are not merely downloading the installer but actually starting it up."
Update: 10/16 11:35 GMT by S : Microsoft said, "In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this was a mistake and we are removing the check."
...if you leave windows update on automatic.
From the article - 'In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this was a mistake and we are removing the check.'
That is one heck of a mistake!!!
Microsoft seems really, really interested in installing this new version on everyone... I wonder why.
You will be assimilated.
My only PC I haven't upgraded requires Windows Media Center to record TV; add media center to Windows 10 and I'd be happy to upgrade from Windows 8. Otherwise, they can go shove it.
-SaNo
Many employers require staff to run earlier versions of Windows to maintain compatibility with certain software. I could see how this could severely interrupt workflow if pushed too aggressively.
Microsoft better curtail this.
Remember the last round with the Web browser, and later the media player? Small potatoes. Imagine what happens when someone running bootcamp runs this and borks their Mac. Or someone dual-booting Linux and completely obliterating the Linux partitions.
And by "thanks" I mean, "thanks for nothing, you pricks."
I'll happily stay on Win 7 until my PC breaks and it can't be fixed or until I get hardware for which there are no Win 7 drivers. Then it'll be time to switch to Linux, perhaps an Unbuntu distro or Mint, which I've heard good things about.
MS knows i"m not alone in feeling this way, and apparently my desires conflict with their business plan.
So I might as well ask now, what distro would people recommend switching to for a desktop box? Or better yet, which ones should I stay away from?
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
As much as I hate to do it, If they don't stop this Windows 10 push garbage I'm going to turn off the automatic updates feature. I'm running Windows Media Center on a windows 7 box and I DON'T want the upgrade, at least not until there is some option for a replacement DVR solution that can playback protected content. Please Microsoft, STOP pushing this, I don't want 10 (or 8 for that matter) so stop asking.
I've noticed that Microsoft is getting really pushy about this upgrade thing and has pushed yet another update that has that annoying "Get Windows 10" icon even after I uninstalled and blocked the first update with it. I disabled the Icon notices, but I really would love to unload the new update. Anybody know which update this new one is?
All this really does is convince me that as soon as somebody can come up with a Linux alternative that his fully DRM blessed to play back protected content from my Cable Card tuner, I'm switching and ditching Microsoft and their "we rule the world, do as we say" attitude.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
It had to do about Bill Gates and something about "resistance is futile"
Right a report from the premier Apple fanboy site, where the most minor Apple news generates dozens of stories, criticizing Microsoft...
Ars Technica is "the premier Apple fanboy site"? Pass me some of whatever you are smoking. It must be a really powerful drug!
If I see that on any of my computers it is going to take less than 5 minutes for me to get a good linux distro burned to disk/usb, and installed. After which I will spend another 5 years (like the 5 years immediately after Vista) doing what I can to reduce their bottom line both personally, and in my community. I must have introduced 30 people to the knoppix boot-disc and to ubuntu. Parents particularly liked the tux-games for their kids. Friends with businesses were more than happy to use linux/samba. I must have prevented at least $10,000 in Microsoft software purchases because of how stunningly bad Vista was. If they pull some militant 1984 crap on hardware I bought and paid for on an OS that I bought and paid for - that will also be ... stunningly bad.
From the article - 'In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this was a mistake and we are removing the check.'
That is one heck of a mistake!!!
Remarkable how mistakes are always in their favor.
is no longer showing. Nice...
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
It worked OK on a spare laptop I tried it with way back in the semi-public beta - figured out how to disable the most egregious annoyances to just act like the Windows 7 upgrade I actually want. I'll likely add a block on an external firewall where the hosts file no longer blocks for known MS data collection (spy) servers. I expect Microsoft to act evil wherever it can - nice to see them less suicidal-evil compared to Windows 8.
Didn't apply the update to any other systems though - found too many missing drivers still from lazy/defunct manufacturers, including my Edimax Wireless AC USB I use on two of my systems If it comes down to the wire, I'll just get a new wireless USB for the applicable systems - but I really just want to wait for a better user library of replacement DLLs to bypass the usual MS bullshit while still offering the Windows 7 functionality I care about.
Hopefully someone will make a nice open-source replacement for Windows Update, that will offer to schedule updates entirely for all users, rather than force updates or demand enterprise-level purchases.
Ryan Fenton
I accidentally clicked the "upgrade" button instead of the "update" button!
Fuck! Now I have the latest version of Debian GNU/Linux installed on my system!
Oh, wait, nevermind. Damn, I feel like I'm missing out on getting as irritated at my OS as Windows users do.
C'est la vie!
C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\
Enjoy your forced download.
has caused me to disallow it on my network due to privacy concerns. My Wi-Fi router password does not need to be stored by Microsoft. This is one of those instances where I really thank God I know and use BSD and Linux to be able to avoid the likes of this junk. I told my wife she needs to either get a MacBook or Linux replaces the Windows 7 install. I removed the MS KBs that would allow Windows 10 to be installed and also removed the additional telemetry crap. No one but me needs knowledge of my passwords.
I bet in a management meeting, the top boss screams out: "I want X new installs by Y, or you are outta here! I don't care how you do it, just get it done!"
The operative phrase is "I don't care how to do it".
Table-ized A.I.
I support quite a few companies and Microsoft have created so much hassle for me recently with this, we now try to block these updates from happening, but, like most people, the first wave caught us off guard. Windows 10 is not compatible with 2nd gen i3/i5/i7 processors with internal graphics - it causes many BSOD and various system problems after about 30-90 minutes usage. Intel have not to date released a driver upgrade. Microsoft does not block these systems from upgrading to Windows 10.
Mine is set to ask me before downloading and I still ended up with the nag icon and a 5gb folder you can't delete unless you boot from other media.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Has anyone using a TrueCrypt encrypted system partition tried upgrading to 10?
Remeber years ago on this site when not performing OS updates was a sign that you shouldn't be allowed near a computer?
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
We have 6 machines. 4 of them upgraded no problem. One had a legacy bios / efi upgrade problem. Windows 10 is nice, an improvement over Windows 7. Everyone here really likes it.
:-(
The 6th machine on the other hand is a single partition machine that has gone from XP to 8.1 without a hitch. Windows 10 repartitions the disk and leaves it unusable (RAW) every time the upgrade runs. Auto upgrade there would wipe out the machine
Couldn't be any worse.
Do it. Windows 7, and 8/8.1 are just lame MS offerings compared to the GOD created windows 10 system. Sure the upgrade is horribly painful, and if it fails 15 times in a row, don't worry! You will be compensated when you call India 3 times for support and they send you a Windows 8.1 restoration system on a USB stick which allows you to restore you system after windows 10 upgraded corrupted your box like there was not tomorrow. When you realize Belarc Advisor isn't giving you a real KEY, but some OEM key that apparently you have NO RIGHT TO USE. So when you google and everyone say "Do a clean install and it will work", well it does, but the damn OS won't activate with my Belarc Advisor found OEM key. So, what can you do to get legal? I had to down grade back to windows 8.1, install all of the drivers an crap; download Windows 10 Home from MS downloads, burn it to a USB stick, reboot the system, run setup off of the USB stick, and select clean install from the 3 upgrade choices. This who upgrade to windows 10 is obnoxious! After 20 tries and two weeks of hassle, I finally got it write. Good luck to fuken everyone else. Buahahahaha.
You actually have automatic updates ON?
WTF?
Don't you want to KNOW what's going to be loaded onto your computer BEFORE it breaks something?
What kind of moron would use Windows of all Oses with all it's flaws and with Windows 7 now freaking 5 years of exploits all ready for Hackers to steal your credit info?!
Somebody who wanted to have his Cable Card tuner feed a DVR and be able to play protected content and not pay the Cable company boat loads of cash each month for their crappy set top boxes. Windows Media Center is the ONLY game in town and it runs best on Windows 7. I run it because there are no other options. As soon as there is another option that works, I'm jumping off the Windows ship.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
I certainly have no interest in upgrading. My only Windows PC is used for gaming, and some light work when I want to use a larger screen. I'm happy with the setup, and don't want anyone except myself to mess around with it. Thus far, this has proven to be the case even though some people are reporting very different experiences.
Which leaves me wondering: are these reports over dramatized or do they reflect actions on Microsoft's end? I certainly wouldn't put it past Microsoft. They certainly have a multitude of motivations to move their customers onto the latest OS. On the other hand, it is possible for these reports to be honest and misrepresent Microsoft. Windows is a complex OS and it is possible to inadvertently misconfigure things or misread a prompt, resulting in undesired results without really realizing how it came about.
You actually have automatic updates ON?
WTF?
Don't you want to KNOW what's going to be loaded onto your computer BEFORE it breaks something?
Do you? Unless you have a test system to load the updates one at a time and determine if they break anything, You are just spitting into the wind here.
So, who has time to test all these patches at home anyway? Unless you do it at work and already know, who's going to take the time to test EVERY patch that MS puts out on Tuesday? So what do you prefer? Unpatched machines or waiting until I can find time to validate all the patches? Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and patch, hoping for the best. This is JUST my DVR we are talking about... If the worst happens, I have a backup image and it only takes an hour to dump it onto the box again and I loose all my recordings.... It's not like a mission critical part of the space station or something, it's TV shows for crying out loud.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Hide this update and you should never see the get windows 10 thing, at least until they reissue it again and it gets removed from the hidden updates(again)
Fuckers ripped it right out of Media Center. Gee thanks, wasn't using that or anything.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Windows really IS a VIRUS.
The launch is only days away. Coincidence?
Patch 3035583 (the Windows 10 system tray pusher) is attempted to download twice if you "hide" the update forcing you to hide it twice. I've also seen 7 computers that were on an active directory domain controlled environment that were told to automatically download and install updates but not to prompt for the next version of windows automatically download and install Windows 10 and come in the morning to it prompting for the initial setup screens.
I'm tired of all of the industry bullshit. We need a decent competitor that doesn't play these games.
Went to fire up my Windows 10 VM today. It was a technical preview which allows me to upgrade to a full Windows 10 Pro version, but I am locked out. First it said it was outdated, Then it quite updating altogether.
Now it says a component expired and I need to hit F8 for recovery except nothing happens with F8.
A tad frustrating.
Just wondering.
If the key is listed as pirated, a good thing would be to auto download and install.
My wife and I both had Win 7 ultimate installed, I on my desktop and her on a laptop. I see the little upgrade icon in my toolbar but have never been prompted to upgrade. Every time she turned her computer on, there would be a popup asking if she would like to upgrade for free. She eventually did it because she was tired of the pop ups.
I don't know why her experience was different from mine. I don't have any intention of upgrading.
"Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
Anyone who uses Windows Media Center will definitely not want to upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is the last version Microsoft shipped with this great program.
Of course Microsoft everyone using Windows Media Center to get an X-Box. I'd more likely keep my old pc, it's tv-tuners and use XMBC with NextPVR.
Microsoft keeps making decisions which seem desperate and ill thought out.
Perhaps the other option is to take a principled stand against Digital Restrictions Management by doing without the "protected content".
Ever since I downloaded the Win10 upgrade I cannot install Windows updates any more. When I go to Windows Update from the Control Panel or the task bar, the only thing it allows me to do is to (try to) run the Win10 upgrade, even though I've removed all the Win10 upgrade's files and the installer no longer actually works. I haven't been able to install security updates since Win10 came out and I'm getting worried.
Now I have the latest version of Debian GNU/Linux installed [...] I feel like I'm missing out on getting as irritated at my OS as Windows users do.
That's because you're irritated in another way: you're missing out on working Wi-Fi and suspend. This is what happens on some battery-powered PCs if you rip out Windows and install Debian. Source
1: Buy a midrange computer with a quiet fan and PSU.
2: Stick in two hard disks, leave them JBOD.
3: Install Windows Server 2012 R2.
4: Create a mirror Storage Space volume, ReFS filesystem on those three drives. Now, bit rot gets detected and squashed.
5: Install WSUS and Windows Server essentials.
6: Block the KBs that are nasty, auto-allow all security updates, and (up to you), allow the rest or block it.
7: Configure mom's computer to back up to the server and get updates from its WSUS server.
Done. The KBs will not get through, her computer gets backed up the right way (i.e. ransomware can't touch the backups), and an image restore is a bootable USB flash drive away.
I updated a freaking bunch of CoreDuo laptops (please notice the absence of the number 2 in the middle of the name) with intel graphics (granted, not integrated) with no issues. (you can search my past posts for the gory details)...
It stands to reason that if such old graphics can handle win10, so can more modern Core iX integrated graphics, with some tweaking (perhaps using the Vista/7/8 drivers instead of the out of the box 10 ones, and checking that ALL your firmware is up to the latest, no matter what the release notes say).
Yes, is a hassle, and yes, true, Microsoft should have blocked the upgrade on your machines for the time being. But, the engineers there are not omniscient, and when (as a previous commenter said) the big boss says "I want X updates by Y date no matter how", this type of things happens, and is up to us to deal with the fallout. Lucky for me, I did it as a favor, and is not my day to day job.
I empathize with you, and do not envy your plight.
At least, those laptops will not end in Ghana for the next 5~10 years; or so I hope.
*** Suerte a todos y Feliz dia!
Modded -1 comment look: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8136977&cid=50684439
The fucking facts. Modded Factual/-1. Did you think they just accidentally coded Windows 10 Global Backstab Spyware then woops dangit back-ported it to 7/8/8.1????
Many of you [here] are not, but many people are fucking hypnotized. I suggest you tell anybody you know who has Windows installed. The Jews media isn't motivated to shine light on this for pretty obvious reasons. Don't expect an infomercial on Linux on CNBC. Anybody "too busy" or "not tech savvy" is about to click ok ok ok ok then WTF if they don't know any better.
The only story I've seen in any hijacked-dinosaur-media was Fox news saying you can disable all of the Windows spy shit with a "free" app.
Malware has always been free. Installing Windows 10 is called "free" but even that is a lie. You had to buy something beforehand even if it was bundled with a new PC. Tell Microsoft to fuck off. Trust has been broken for years and now it's just asinine. PC's could ship with Linux, but it's already a free download at any given time anyway.
It's been a Linux story for years already if you haven't been living in a cave. distrowatch.com
Was smooth at first, but now I'm seeing that was a mistake. These update issues are a real headache when I'm trying to get work done. Plus, I imaged to a bigger HD, windows would refuse to let me login. I ended up having to "reset" windows, which removes all apps, preserves user data, and reinstalls Windows. Now I can't activate it for some fucking reason. And when I reboot after reinstalling an app uninstalled during the reset, it tries (and fails!) to update. I'm not sure what's more frustrating: the cluster fuck that it is or Microsoft isn't saying shit about it.
Chewbacon
The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
> (Dang English and all the Homophones.... )
Those homos annoy you, eh?
In my experience, that's generally been used hooking into an external software (or an external system running software) such as MythTV or an HDHomeRun device, etc.
That allows it to manage recordings but I don't believe it has any built-in functionality for such.
It is all a setup for Windows 11. Windows 11 will be subscription based. If you are running 10 you will have no choice about continuing to use it. You will have to immediately upgrade because 10 will stop working entirely. The 7 and 8 upgrades have a similar intent, but may have a few more ways to keep it in use because this gives legal cover for the 11 subscription model. Even so, 7 and 8 will be so crippled that they will be nearly useless. For example, even they will not be able to run non-subscription Word or Excel.
This is so damned obvious that I am at a loss that no one seems to consider this possibility. When MS brings the hammer down don't complain that you weren't warned.
Why is Snark Required?
..however it fits PERFECTLY with their recent actions, so I REALLY DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT TO BE A MISTAKE.
like, first they make the fucking popup come up every 15 mins or so to get you to download the update, then they port some 'diagnosis'(presumably to diagnose why people are not installing windows 10) back to 7/8, then they move to downloading the update in background regardless.
THEN they start popping up the installer WITH ONE BUTTON.
would MS do such a mistake? I mean, this is the microsoft that has already for few years perverted their own UI standards to coax people into making choices they want the user to make rather than giving the user a clear choice to decline, there's ample examples of that behavior such as on new windows installation making screens that have a button element and another button that's a link element that _functionally_ both act as buttons - the one that is made to look not like a button however is the choice they don't want you to make - so it would fit perfectly with that UI shenigans to make on purpose a popup that had no cancel button on it since "hey if the user closes the dialog then that counts as a cancel, amirite???".
it's bullshit. and it's remarkable bullshit coming from a company that had nailed the easy to use window UI down 15 years ago already and should just have stuck with that and their own guidelines that they did with real science and real user studies that just were done to benefit the user, since that it has been downhill for them(really, win2k era was the pinnacle, then they started skinning and just doing cutesy shit and now even worse they started to 'guide' the user).
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Pray they don't alter it any further.
The background download (confirmed) is old news. According to the summary, some users machines are reportedly starting the actual upgrade process. This would be a big deal only if confirmed. I'm not seeing that yet.
It's absolutely confirmed by MS's own admission.
They claim it was a mistake.
LOL
I'm talking actual users (in more of a bloc than random anecdotes from comment sections) waking up to Windows 10. From the article it seems all but inevitable; we're just not seeing it yet.
I'd be absolutely furious. Thank heavens for unix variants.
Or ditch Microsoft already (oh, btw: Apple is no better).
The only way to get us highly intelligent folk to take it this early... lol.
No thanks, I reaaaaalllllly can wait until they get all the bugs and privacy invasions out.
One thing that puts me off is the Win10 availability notification box keeps crashing!
WGwhatever.EXE has had an unknown error.
"the Windows 10 upgrade option is appearing chosen by default to some users updating there computers and a dialogue box is appearing that only permits them to reschedule the upgrade process"
"chosen by default to some users"?
"there" computers?
Fucking idiots.
Does that sound like a technical solution, or a snide fucking comment to you?
If you're having trouble, pretend that he was asking you to give up something you enjoy, and that you giving it up would not improve the world or yourself in any possible way.
Start -> All Programs -> Windows Update -> Show all available options -> Optional -> Uncheck Windows 10 Upgrade -> Right click the selection -> Hide Update -> OK. Problem resolved.
KB3035528 (I think) is the earlier Windows update that forces this.
If they try this shit on any of the systems I administer I will immediately ask our lawyers to sue them. Windows 10 is malware and I will seek unlimited damages if they install it without my permission.
Windows 10 is all malware. Malware company CEOs say developers. DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! Microsoft malware Developers!
The Windows 10 upgrade is a "recommended update" which means that anyone who has checked the box saying that they would like to receive recommended updates the same way they receive important will receive the Windows 10 upgrade.
The users made that decision.
Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Update\Change settings -> choose "never check for updates"
I can't have agreed to the EULA.
A query I will have to pass on to the courts in the UK to see why I can be made to agree to something I never agreed to by the computer program ignoring my refusal.
I keep a 2005-vintage Windows XP laptop in my car; it has an OBD-II readout program on it, and I sometimes use it to connect to the internet while travelling. I bought it used with SP-3 installed. I have it set up to ignore updates for fear of breaking the OBD-II program. I use no firewall, and run as administrator at cafe hotspots, within the motel, etc. I have done this for more than five years and have had no successful exploits against it.
YMMV
aside from the standard /. response of (run linux|bsd).. i'll just get that oblig. comment out of the way now ;p
this follows win7 but applies to win8 as well (win8 has more settings to flip off)...
windows update:
turn off recommended updates. those are mostly junk (the telemetry crap and most the win10 offer stuff falls under 'recommended' not 'important') or fuck up your system (like drivers).
set updates to download then notify
hide every fucking one of those that just starts with 'update for windows' instead of 'security update' (including 971033, an older one adds extra processes that verify your activations).
microsoft is getting a little sneaky and persistent.. some kb #s end up being offered multiple times, and some have started to be changed to or released as 'important' (which autoinstalls with default windows update settings).
microsoft really needs to actually provide a description in the update manifest instead of just generic 'resolves a problem in windows'.. especially when they don't actually fix anything (but rather, likely break shit instead) like telemetry and windows 10 shit... what the hell is in that 150+ megabyte file you download when checking for updates if full descriptions of the updates aren't in it?
action center:
action center settings, disable problem reporting and ceip (customer experience improvement program).
__
if you want to reserve a win10 free upgrade, i'd suggest imaging your drive to a spare (or use your factory recovery media on the spare.. without your original drive connected), upgrade, then go back to your original drive. no chance of the revert process failing that way, or the 10 upgrade messing with your data, drive structure, or factory utility/recovery partitions.
I got sick of fighting 10 attempting to go in on my gaming box, the last straw being when it decided to fill up the SSD I use for the OS (programs and data on other drives).
I called Microsoft Support. It took them some time, but they not only got rid of about 4 gig of windows 10 junk that had been downloaded to my drive, but adjusted my registry to indicate that I was not eligible for the 10 upgrade.
I'm guessing that the registry change is the way to go for stopping 10 nagging and such.. For a few days I have been blissfully free of such things.
Last night I was disabling the reboot-after-update thing in windows group policy editor, and I noticed an item that can be enabled saying roughly "Turn off the upgrade to the most recent version of windows through windows update".
I don't remember seeing this one discussed much around the tubes, but now it might come in handy (if it does what it says).
It seems like now would be a great time to get this OS up and running. An influx of cash from disgruntled Windows users will spur real development.
In Canada, forcing the upgrade would be a clear violation of Section 8 of Canada's Anti-Spam Legislation!
I think I broke free of the matrix last night. I mean I Literally was nearly locked out of my computer. I go from top of the world happy, to ready to smash it all up mad in the space several seconds of booting.
You want my notes? Okay I will try.
First do all the stuff from Ghacks.
Then. Your going to install Process Hacker 2 and enable all the plugins for tracking bad things down.
Your going to click the Network part of process hacker and start getting rid of all the IPV6
then services you want to disable and fix here
net stop http and siblings. then edit the http service disabled after it's stopped here. (I know you can't just do it)
http wdisystemhost sysmain dnscache cryptscc ikeext schedule taskschedule RemoteProcedure Call (RPC) yeah I still got a port 135!
lanman client and servers dhcp client winhttp web proxy auto-discovery service
fdrespub
files:
http.sys
ip's: ;o)
blacklists/cidr/robotex that crap
mt view google
zoner
adobe
microsoft
(learn some friendly ip's too.
fdrespub
Ridding the UDP6, TCP6 in the Network all the way down to a pair of Svchosts.exe running some RpcSs
THat's where I am at.
in these keys here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet \services\
experimenting within the Truth Table for Servcices.
Boot 0
System 1
Auto 2
Man 3
Disable 4
rebooting and hating it.
whole thing isolated via firewall for analyzing escaped packets and ports.
The cyberwar FRONTLINE is what this is.
You don't got to wait, it's here.
At first this stuff I thought would be okay, but it's getting bad now.
I notice right away trying to record live sound. A fucking pain in my ass microsoft has become.
First the mixer API nuke from XP to 7 and then just daily fuckin malicious horse shit.
For the fanboy peanut gallery, I have bsd/linux already, so it's not that.
There's a fucking operating system for each fucking job on this planet.
I have web connected win boxes that do important jobs.
Try being in any kind of media these days without a high end NLE
Don't tell me your bad ass video was rendered on linux. Maybe the 3d..I will give up that.
Truth is the two best OS's was XP and then sadly win 7.
Of MICROSOFT - Ignoring the 98SE/win3x . Nothing else is worth saving in my opinion! There was even a better DOS..
Dos 7 or some crap I forget now.
But ultimately, I have a worse sick fear and feeling inside.
Look man I got boxes of MFM still on the shelf here.
about 21 working 286 boards and all the old cards Serial, Parallel, video, audio on and on and on.
What I am saying is I been around for a bit, I kept things FLAWLESS all these years, worrying one day this doomsday crap was coming.
Today, I worry what about the MEDIA I generated over the years?
What format might I store it.
TAPE? Then there better be Tape players.
wav avi? better be open codecs
in hard drive? what if they change again?
USB?
ram?
Chip that funk out on a cobalt stone?
add in some back stabbing corporations, and trust at less than zero.
not to mention an viscious anger growing at each broken windows stage.
Trying to rationalize getting an alpha box with no spy shit cloned up like my XP is.
Oh MF'rs.
although i'm not sure if i hid it properly on my dell venue 11 pro 7140 hybrid. also once it had gotten to wanting to install i selected postpone 3d or whatever it was, but next reboot a few hours later it just went ahead an started installing windows 10. fortunately everything worked. this happened back in mid-August iirc as i wasn't part of the first wave on any of my machines.
i've also noticed on 2 notebooks win7 and 8.1 that the upgrade occasionally get automagically unhidden.
i had been waiting for the driver situation to shake out, fortunately the hybrid is fairly standard/igpu only, intel wifi and a supported touchscreen.
I've been trying to get my windows 10 pc's to leave a homegroup.
It's a dream I have.
I think the FSF's position on boycotting DRM follows this logic: If enough people boycott DRM, this will improve the world by showing publishers that there's no longer a market for products including DRM.
Once again proving the old adage that "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission."
It's hard for me to believe that was a "mistake."
An effective "democracy" creates the illusion the people have a say in their government.
Have the program silently encrypt the file system table, instantly close all open programs and not allow new ones to be opened, and throw up a dialog box that says: "Windows 10 is downloading....wait" with no option to stop, and warn the user that if he/she
shuts of the computer, they won't ever be able to access
their files again (the key for decryption is stored in RAM only so powering the machine off essentaly means the user loses his/her files forever)
(at least this is somethig I would love to see.)
>:)
We could go over this for quite some time, so I'll simplify my perspective. They have a year for the upgrade process, someone is trying to make their bonus. Windows over time has taken control away from the user base, this OS is the extreme version of this. Choice is something that will no longer be offered, furthermore they are gathering data and using this data. To what extent can only be surmised by network traffic analysis as well as local machine analysis, in particular file access that being said the security risk is beyond high. The amusing part of this is that one could create a VM with BS information and let them pull that data in, further it's going to be the BEST malware deployment tool in the galaxy. Someone or a group will figure out how to get something into their systems and when that happens..... Win 7 is the last MS OS I'll have ever. I prefer nix due to your ability to control what happens and your ability to manipulate things. I high suggest to the community that we guard nix as an OS due to M$ peaked interest in it. M$ with Win10 will be making decisions for the user base, they will be using YOUR bandwidth to push out patches you pay for that....if it were the other way around they'd be suing you or looking for monetary compensation.
The short of this is there is such a high degree of potential security issues and privacy issues that this OS should not be used, even if it is "Free" as the cost of your data equals how much in the way of monetary compensation? I would also think that it violates the EU laws on personal information, butt we will see.
This update works just like those stupid toolbar viruses. Remember years ago when you used to install software and every damn program wanted you to install "SomeStupidToolBarYouDon'tNeed" along with the program you were installing? People just kept clicking next without reading it because they wanted to get back to what they were doing.
Point in case, I was talking to my mom today and at the School she works at, tons of people are bugging the technicians to fix their Computers now over this exact thing. Many got the update, just clicked next because almost no one ever reads the update on their screen, they just want it done, and now people are bringing their laptops in begging for help because they "don't like this Windows 10 thing". Good job MS.
MS can claim they're getting "7%" of the Marketshare, but most of those people are pissed off and have no clue how to revert.
On any sane OS that's still the case.
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