The person in the drivers seat will be the same person who is driving now. Why? Because the pundits that write about this stuff have been proclaiming we're going to have all these fancy gadgets to drive our cars "real soon now" since I was teenager (and I passed 'teen' 24 years ago).
Just like all those mythical flying cars.
I'll believe cars are going to have that stuff when they start coming off the showroom floor with it installed. Until then, its not worth even thinking about it much.
Every time a new technology or a new way of doing something appears, someone else figures out a way to possibly abuse it and make a buck with it. That's how the world operates.
Y'all don't seem to understand one basic function of the business world. The main desire of any company is to sell (get this) their own product.
You people act like you expect Microsoft to be saying glowing and positive things about Linux. That would be like Ford trying to sell their cars by listing the positive qualities of Chevys. Of course Microsoft is going to accentuate the negative...even if their own product has the same negatives. That's how this game is played.
I swear I'm not purposely trying to sound like a gigantic walking prick, but...
If the shuttle is "the most reliable way to get people and cargo into and out of LEO", why has it been grounded for over two years and why are we dependant on Russian rockets and equipment to get our people up to ISS and back? It seems to me that sort of thing would indicate that their stuff is, at present, at least a bit more reliable than STS.
Don't get me wrong, I love the space program and all that. NASA's funding should be at least trippled (and we can start by reducing the pay of all congresscritters). But I think that for the last 15 years or so we've done it half-assed at best. We can find billions to bomb the shit out of and then rebuild foreign nations, but we can't find a few million for science. We need to either fully fund the programs and truly *lead*, or we need to get the hell out of the way and let someone else do it right.
Mercury and Gemini I'd agree with you without exception.
Apollo delivered its goals, but was scaled back. There were supposed to have been at least two more flights in the program, and it could have achieved far more than it did.
Skylab worked, but I don't think it was in the general plans for it to fall out of orbit after only three missions.
Apollo/Soyuz, yeah, I'd have to agree on that one too.
The shuttle works, but it has never fully lived up to expectations. Way over budget and late. Original plans called for it to regularly make 10 flights per year or more. Its never come close. Likewise, while its cheaper to operate than one time use rockets like a Saturn, it has never come close to original projections. And finally, this is what was supposed to keep Skylab from falling down.
ISS was massively scaled down from original plans (reference "Fred" in my first post). Something is regularly breaking down, we're dependant on another country to keep it supplied and get us there and back, its on a scaled-back crew roster now, and NASA regularly talks about the possible need to mothball it for extended periods of time. Successful, probably. But I think "resounding" is stretching it.
One final thing on ISS. And I tried to find specific times for this, but since Mir was de-orbited its apparently hard to come by accurate information. But from the time of placement of the first and main module of Mir in to orbit until the station was dropped was 15 years. The first and main module of ISS has only been in orbit slightly over 6 years (according to NASA information I just looked at). ISS has been manned for a period of 4 years plus some. I cannot find information right at the moment on the length of time that Mir was manned, but considering at least one mission was longer than a year, I have a hard time believing that ISS has been manned longer than Mir. Can you point me to a site that can confirm that?
It comes from back in the day when the space station was originally proposed. It was a much larger and more useful design, and it was going to be named "Freedom". But as usual, our government was more interested in weapons and such than science, so the design was scaled back *massively* after funding cut after funding cut. This started a popular joke going around that because of the reduction in size of the proposed station, there was no longer room to paint the word "Freedom", so they had to also cut the name down to "Fred".
"Freedom" instead became the current almost pointless International Space Station (ISS).
I wonder which way China will go with their visions for space.
Will they follow through and actually do what they claim.
Or will they take the US route (which we'll call "Fred") where we talk grand plans and visions...then we cut funding for other projects that are already successfully producing major scientific discovery, and finally we then cut funding even more and adapt 40 year old technology that never lived up to its original expectations in the first place. And then when it fails we propose gigantic new visions we don't intend to follow through on, so that everyone forgets about the failure of the earlier project.
Sorry, but I disagree. This is not a "victimless crime". Its the same as if someone pulled up in front of your house and started using your water or electricity.
As for the other man now possibly having a record for life, tough shit. He should have thought about that before he commited an act of theft. As the saying goes, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. I hope that was some damned good pr0n he was looking at.
I have some mod points this week, and I was all set to mod a few comments in this thread. Then I saw this post, and decided I'd rather reply in the thread than mod.
The reason the guy didn't confront the other dude in the SUV is simple...people very often get shot/stabbed and killed for doing so. It happens on a regular basis in the US. There are a lot of mean and nasty motherfuckers roaming here.
I am not a small man. I'm 6 foot tall and weigh 300 pounds. But if I saw a guy I didn't know sitting in front of my house late at night doing something possibly naughty, my first instinct would also be to call The Law. The only way I would walk up to that vehicle myself would be with loaded shotgun in hand.
The man who called the law was not a coward. He was very very smart.
Um...actually your example is precisely how it really would appear on Slashdot. Slashdot has a long and wonderful history of conveniently only telling half the story, and is as guilty of doing so as any **AA organization.
So coupled with all these facts why would you go with Intel? I seriously doubt it has to do with a technical advantage [specially in the SMP world].
Why do I go with Intel? Granted, I'm probably an exception in your general argument, but you asked, so I'll answer your question of why I go with Intel every time.
I have one scientific application that I run daily. It relies *heavily* on floating point math. It has been hand-tweaked (and no, not by me) to get every possible speed advantage out of the code...as in hand-coded assembler. And it has been hand-tweaked for both Intel and AMD processors (and can detect which one its on, and select its code accordingly).
And when run on an Intel (P4, not Celeron) processor, it will blow the fuck out of an AMD processor every time. Even if you go a few steps up in the chain and get an AMD processor with a supposed speed advantage. For example, a system with a P4-1600 will slightly beat an Athlon 64-3400.
So for that reason, and that reason alone, I won't even bother with an AMD box. But again, I will concede that I am probably the exception to the rule, and I'm running a specialized application. But you did ask:-)
From what I've seen in the past, companies that have to plead their case in a public forum like that often do so because they have no real case to plead in the courtroom.
McBride and the entire SCO corporation are so full of shit they slosh when they walk. And this latest announcement from them doesn't change that fact. They should start a fertilizer factory. No one I've seen can spread shit faster or thicker.
They are not a friend to open source, and are instead the perfect example of the enemy...they want the benefits of open source, they want to make money using open source, but they do not want to recognize the validity of the open source licenses on the software they distribute.
As for IP, if anyone at SCO had an original idea it would be like matter meeting anti-matter and the world would spontaneously implode.
They should be squashed like the diseased insects that they are.
You're obviously new here. Let me instruct you on how Slashdot works.
1. We hate Bill Gates and Microsoft. Everything they do is bad. They could hand every man, woman, and child in the world a block of gold, and the majority of Slashdot would bitch that it was too big, too small, the wrong color, too heavy, etc.
2. We love Steve Jobs and Apple. Everything they do is good. They could hand every man, woman, and child in the world a big giant steaming turd, and the majority of Slashdot users would press theirs in their scrapbooks, or have it mounted and framed for all their friends to see.
3. In situations where both companies do the same thing, see rules 1 and 2.
4. Any post that points out these rules is wrong, and therefore within 2 hours of posting this reply will receive at least one moderation of -1 "Troll".
You do make a valid point. And I will agree that there are times when one must risk something massive for "the greater good".
But since I (hypothetically, at this point) aided them, even if it was by their own free choice, it would also weigh heavily on me for the rest of my natural life.
But most likely I will participate...I'm looking at blogging software choices now.
On the surface, I think this is a wonderful idea. I just happen to own a server, and very well may participate in this.
But I have one concern.
If I get caught by the Chinese government, all they can do is block my server. If the person I'm hosting gets caught, they get tossed in to jail or stood up against a wall and shot.
No, you're not. If you read the reply to myself and the new entry I just posted, I majorly fucked up. I saw this a couple days ago on Newsforge, NOT on Slashdot.
Slashdot Mirror
The person in the drivers seat will be the same person who is driving now. Why? Because the pundits that write about this stuff have been proclaiming we're going to have all these fancy gadgets to drive our cars "real soon now" since I was teenager (and I passed 'teen' 24 years ago).
Just like all those mythical flying cars.
I'll believe cars are going to have that stuff when they start coming off the showroom floor with it installed. Until then, its not worth even thinking about it much.
But there is a difference.
When AOL sends their crap through snail mail, AOL themselves is paying for it to be sent.
When spammers send their email, they are using bandwidth that other people have to pay for.
If I patent the process of dupes, will that make them go away?
This is not the least bit surprising.
Every time a new technology or a new way of doing something appears, someone else figures out a way to possibly abuse it and make a buck with it. That's how the world operates.
I find it interesting that he says boycott MSIE 7 because it doesn't conform to standards, and then he recommends Firefox.
What makes it interesting is Firefox won't pass that ol' Acid Test either. And yes, I just tried it...I'm not basing that comment on rumor.
You left out one...
"just imagine a beowulf cluster of these..."
Y'all don't seem to understand one basic function of the business world. The main desire of any company is to sell (get this) their own product.
You people act like you expect Microsoft to be saying glowing and positive things about Linux. That would be like Ford trying to sell their cars by listing the positive qualities of Chevys. Of course Microsoft is going to accentuate the negative...even if their own product has the same negatives. That's how this game is played.
I swear I'm not purposely trying to sound like a gigantic walking prick, but...
If the shuttle is "the most reliable way to get people and cargo into and out of LEO", why has it been grounded for over two years and why are we dependant on Russian rockets and equipment to get our people up to ISS and back? It seems to me that sort of thing would indicate that their stuff is, at present, at least a bit more reliable than STS.
Don't get me wrong, I love the space program and all that. NASA's funding should be at least trippled (and we can start by reducing the pay of all congresscritters). But I think that for the last 15 years or so we've done it half-assed at best. We can find billions to bomb the shit out of and then rebuild foreign nations, but we can't find a few million for science. We need to either fully fund the programs and truly *lead*, or we need to get the hell out of the way and let someone else do it right.
Mercury and Gemini I'd agree with you without exception.
Apollo delivered its goals, but was scaled back. There were supposed to have been at least two more flights in the program, and it could have achieved far more than it did.
Skylab worked, but I don't think it was in the general plans for it to fall out of orbit after only three missions.
Apollo/Soyuz, yeah, I'd have to agree on that one too.
The shuttle works, but it has never fully lived up to expectations. Way over budget and late. Original plans called for it to regularly make 10 flights per year or more. Its never come close. Likewise, while its cheaper to operate than one time use rockets like a Saturn, it has never come close to original projections. And finally, this is what was supposed to keep Skylab from falling down.
ISS was massively scaled down from original plans (reference "Fred" in my first post). Something is regularly breaking down, we're dependant on another country to keep it supplied and get us there and back, its on a scaled-back crew roster now, and NASA regularly talks about the possible need to mothball it for extended periods of time. Successful, probably. But I think "resounding" is stretching it.
One final thing on ISS. And I tried to find specific times for this, but since Mir was de-orbited its apparently hard to come by accurate information. But from the time of placement of the first and main module of Mir in to orbit until the station was dropped was 15 years. The first and main module of ISS has only been in orbit slightly over 6 years (according to NASA information I just looked at). ISS has been manned for a period of 4 years plus some. I cannot find information right at the moment on the length of time that Mir was manned, but considering at least one mission was longer than a year, I have a hard time believing that ISS has been manned longer than Mir. Can you point me to a site that can confirm that?
It comes from back in the day when the space station was originally proposed. It was a much larger and more useful design, and it was going to be named "Freedom". But as usual, our government was more interested in weapons and such than science, so the design was scaled back *massively* after funding cut after funding cut. This started a popular joke going around that because of the reduction in size of the proposed station, there was no longer room to paint the word "Freedom", so they had to also cut the name down to "Fred".
"Freedom" instead became the current almost pointless International Space Station (ISS).
I wonder which way China will go with their visions for space.
Will they follow through and actually do what they claim.
Or will they take the US route (which we'll call "Fred") where we talk grand plans and visions...then we cut funding for other projects that are already successfully producing major scientific discovery, and finally we then cut funding even more and adapt 40 year old technology that never lived up to its original expectations in the first place. And then when it fails we propose gigantic new visions we don't intend to follow through on, so that everyone forgets about the failure of the earlier project.
Sorry, but I disagree. This is not a "victimless crime". Its the same as if someone pulled up in front of your house and started using your water or electricity.
As for the other man now possibly having a record for life, tough shit. He should have thought about that before he commited an act of theft. As the saying goes, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. I hope that was some damned good pr0n he was looking at.
I have some mod points this week, and I was all set to mod a few comments in this thread. Then I saw this post, and decided I'd rather reply in the thread than mod.
The reason the guy didn't confront the other dude in the SUV is simple...people very often get shot/stabbed and killed for doing so. It happens on a regular basis in the US. There are a lot of mean and nasty motherfuckers roaming here.
I am not a small man. I'm 6 foot tall and weigh 300 pounds. But if I saw a guy I didn't know sitting in front of my house late at night doing something possibly naughty, my first instinct would also be to call The Law. The only way I would walk up to that vehicle myself would be with loaded shotgun in hand.
The man who called the law was not a coward. He was very very smart.
Um...actually your example is precisely how it really would appear on Slashdot. Slashdot has a long and wonderful history of conveniently only telling half the story, and is as guilty of doing so as any **AA organization.
So coupled with all these facts why would you go with Intel? I seriously doubt it has to do with a technical advantage [specially in the SMP world].
:-)
Why do I go with Intel? Granted, I'm probably an exception in your general argument, but you asked, so I'll answer your question of why I go with Intel every time.
I have one scientific application that I run daily. It relies *heavily* on floating point math. It has been hand-tweaked (and no, not by me) to get every possible speed advantage out of the code...as in hand-coded assembler. And it has been hand-tweaked for both Intel and AMD processors (and can detect which one its on, and select its code accordingly).
And when run on an Intel (P4, not Celeron) processor, it will blow the fuck out of an AMD processor every time. Even if you go a few steps up in the chain and get an AMD processor with a supposed speed advantage. For example, a system with a P4-1600 will slightly beat an Athlon 64-3400.
So for that reason, and that reason alone, I won't even bother with an AMD box. But again, I will concede that I am probably the exception to the rule, and I'm running a specialized application. But you did ask
From what I've seen in the past, companies that have to plead their case in a public forum like that often do so because they have no real case to plead in the courtroom.
AMD would be very wise to keep that in mind.
We shall see...
We've already got the two required Sith Lords for President and Vice-President...
McBride and the entire SCO corporation are so full of shit they slosh when they walk. And this latest announcement from them doesn't change that fact. They should start a fertilizer factory. No one I've seen can spread shit faster or thicker.
They are not a friend to open source, and are instead the perfect example of the enemy...they want the benefits of open source, they want to make money using open source, but they do not want to recognize the validity of the open source licenses on the software they distribute.
As for IP, if anyone at SCO had an original idea it would be like matter meeting anti-matter and the world would spontaneously implode.
They should be squashed like the diseased insects that they are.
"Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
This line causes more people to run in fear than any weapon of mass destruction.
You're obviously new here. Let me instruct you on how Slashdot works.
1. We hate Bill Gates and Microsoft. Everything they do is bad. They could hand every man, woman, and child in the world a block of gold, and the majority of Slashdot would bitch that it was too big, too small, the wrong color, too heavy, etc.
2. We love Steve Jobs and Apple. Everything they do is good. They could hand every man, woman, and child in the world a big giant steaming turd, and the majority of Slashdot users would press theirs in their scrapbooks, or have it mounted and framed for all their friends to see.
3. In situations where both companies do the same thing, see rules 1 and 2.
4. Any post that points out these rules is wrong, and therefore within 2 hours of posting this reply will receive at least one moderation of -1 "Troll".
You do make a valid point. And I will agree that there are times when one must risk something massive for "the greater good".
But since I (hypothetically, at this point) aided them, even if it was by their own free choice, it would also weigh heavily on me for the rest of my natural life.
But most likely I will participate...I'm looking at blogging software choices now.
On the surface, I think this is a wonderful idea. I just happen to own a server, and very well may participate in this.
But I have one concern.
If I get caught by the Chinese government, all they can do is block my server. If the person I'm hosting gets caught, they get tossed in to jail or stood up against a wall and shot.
I must contemplate this on the tree of woe...
No, you're not. If you read the reply to myself and the new entry I just posted, I majorly fucked up. I saw this a couple days ago on Newsforge, NOT on Slashdot.
Forgive me, Father, for I am a worm.
I'm making this entry both as an original reply, and a reply to my own post earlier in the thread, so that it definiately gets seen.
Above I commented that this was a dupe.
Oops. Ignore what I just said. I'm an idiot and its been a long day. I will now flog myself with an old CD of windows 95 as punishment.
I saw this originally on Newsforge, NOT on Slashdot.
I apologize to Timothy for my stupidity.
Oops. Ignore what I just said. I'm an idiot and its been a long day.
I saw this originally on Newsforge, NOT on Slashdot.
I apologize to Timothy for my stupidity.