They do get paid, via taxes, in a group insurance setup.
Because things like fire, police, and health care are something that are commonly needed, but nobody quite knows when or where, it makes FAR more sense to charge everybody a little bit, then to charge rich people a lot, and deny service to people who can't afford it, or worse, to require them to provide the service anyway, forcing them to recoup their costs in other ways.
Taxes don't charge rich people proportionately more. Matter of fact taxes shift most of the burden to the middle class. Insurance would tax people according to their need and their desire to protect what they have.
Oh you didn't actually want to hear that did you ? I get a vibe your pretty happy with the swamp as long as it makes life difficult for people you resent.
Cheapskate couldn't spring for an RSA token. The phone company isn't good at security and expecting them to be on a phone plan is ridiculous. If he wanted security he should have bought a plan that explicitly supplied it, instead of trying to create the obligation ex post facto.
Also insurance seems like it would have been in order here.
The idea that people should pay for what they use is so triggering it's considered flamebait.
The idea that people should get the government they're paying for, instead of the robber barons and other members of the leisure class, is apparently triggering you.
“We all too often have socialism for the rich, and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.” Martin Luther King Jr.
I'd be very happy to not get the government I pay for. Having elected officials being able to profit off of selling parts of the country to foreign powers, leaves me cold. The funding of "public education" to teach kids if they can shut up people they don't like it somehow makes their reasoning correct, just makes me happy I own guns.
Or just reading this thread, and the hypocrisy of people who would gladly burn books arguing how great public libraries are.
Mandatory insurance? Or when people call in to 911 for police or fire insurance, do they need to have their credit card ready?
If the former, well, we already have that, it's called 'taxes.' If the latter, well, it already works that way in quite a few places in America, and it's terrible.
It's terrible, the fact free diatribe of the brainwashed. Anyway if you want other people to make a profession out of being ready to help you why shouldn't you pay them for it ?
Because it turns out having privately funded road, health, education, and defense systems are bad for various reasons. This extends out to other areas, like some branches of science.
Seems public funding isn't that great either. Matter of fact private schools are so much better that parents are willing to pay absurd amounts of money to send their kids to them. Toll roads work pretty well, and most of the problems with the medical system stem from the government limiting the supply of doctors.
Yeah, sure. And let's replace the National Weather Service with The Weather Channel because hey, it's self-funding. And we could replace libraries with book stores too. And eventually you'll miss the point of why taxpayer-funded projects exist at all.
Why do they exist at all ? Looking at California they exist so politicians can rob the public blind and do everything they can to encourage people to leave the state.
The weather service is something that could easily self fund, there's actually a large number of private services that sell their product on the basis of doing a better job.
Between Franklin and Carnegie libraries were privately funded, and just out of curiosity when was the last time you used one ?
The idea that people should pay for what they use is so triggering it's considered flamebait. Wow some people need to emigrate to one of the remaining socialist paradises, No Korea, Cuba and Venezuela are still there.
Internet time depends on infrastructure that can fail in a variety of ways that radio isn't vulnerable to. It's very useful, but has its limitations. GPS isn't vulnerable in the way internet-based infrastructure is. However, it's difficult to receive a GPS signal in many places that shortwave radio can still be received. It isn't redundant infrastructure.
Redundant infrastructure is exactly what you have described. It's a pain in the rear to get WWV devices to work in general and you will need an antenna where either can't be received.
The idea that "useful" things automatically -- or even can -- make money doesn't strike me as inherently true. And if it is we should start with grade schools and family households.
Grade Schools often are run for profit and much more efficiently than public schools. Family households used to be strictly for profit operations prior to the modern era. Children were your retirement policy.
If it's so useful, it should be able to be self funding. Get it out of the government hands all together, who knows maybe there are other uses for the tech, or maybe because it's free now, people aren't bothering to upgrade to things like internet time distribution or GPS.
Well in the old days, the market maker would have bridged the gap. (not for this situation, but for a sell at best price) the buyer would have paid something like $1.75 you would have gotten $1.25 and the market maker who was actually taking a risk would have made $0.50 (numbers just for illustration not meant to be accurate)
Sounds to me like they want to get a ruling to prevent the next liberal "rule by fiat"
Say, did you know that Donald Trump has signed more executive orders in the first 20 months of his presidency that Barack Obama did in his first two years?
If you don't like "rule by fiat", then you should really be uncomfortable with the degenerate Trump regime.
Wow
20 months vs 2 years ? Any reason you felt the need to change units there ? 20 months vs 24 makes it much easier to see the difference. Though it doesn't sound nearly as impressive.
Gotta ask before you posted that did you do any checking about the nature of the EOs ? I mean just how many were undoing previous EOs ?
Seems this would important to make the point you are trying to unless you are just looking to troll.
Really where is the there, here ? You'll have doctors frequently dispute what the correct treatment is and with diseases like cancer it doesn't help that the best you can often do is offer a statistical improvement of someone's chances.
Far better that more people can afford treatment faster than this remain the province of the priesthood.
I'm not going to get into whether I believe Trump is guilty of this, that, or the other thing, but I really do need to point out your ignorance. The conviction you're asking for is precisely the upholding the AC above you is calling for.
Conviction first, trial and evidence maybe later. Da comrade, maybe they will reopen the chekka so you can have a job.
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They do get paid, via taxes, in a group insurance setup.
Because things like fire, police, and health care are something that are commonly needed, but nobody quite knows when or where, it makes FAR more sense to charge everybody a little bit, then to charge rich people a lot, and deny service to people who can't afford it, or worse, to require them to provide the service anyway, forcing them to recoup their costs in other ways.
Taxes don't charge rich people proportionately more. Matter of fact taxes shift most of the burden to the middle class. Insurance would tax people according to their need and their desire to protect what they have.
Pretty damn good
https://www.washingtonexaminer...
Trump is ahead of his promise to de-regulate.
Oh you didn't actually want to hear that did you ? I get a vibe your pretty happy with the swamp as long as it makes life difficult for people you resent.
Cheapskate couldn't spring for an RSA token. The phone company isn't good at security and expecting them to be on a phone plan is ridiculous. If he wanted security he should have bought a plan that explicitly supplied it, instead of trying to create the obligation ex post facto.
Also insurance seems like it would have been in order here.
The idea that people should pay for what they use is so triggering it's considered flamebait.
The idea that people should get the government they're paying for, instead of the robber barons and other members of the leisure class, is apparently triggering you.
“We all too often have socialism for the rich, and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.” Martin Luther King Jr.
I'd be very happy to not get the government I pay for. Having elected officials being able to profit off of selling parts of the country to foreign powers, leaves me cold. The funding of "public education" to teach kids if they can shut up people they don't like it somehow makes their reasoning correct, just makes me happy I own guns.
Or just reading this thread, and the hypocrisy of people who would gladly burn books arguing how great public libraries are.
Mandatory insurance? Or when people call in to 911 for police or fire insurance, do they need to have their credit card ready?
If the former, well, we already have that, it's called 'taxes.' If the latter, well, it already works that way in quite a few places in America, and it's terrible.
It's terrible, the fact free diatribe of the brainwashed. Anyway if you want other people to make a profession out of being ready to help you why shouldn't you pay them for it ?
The road my house is on is owned by my home owners association and is maintained by dues and assessments.
So yes it does work well.
private schools are so much better that parents are willing to pay absurd amounts of money to send their kids to them
If public schools had access to the same absurd amount of money, they would be better too.
Ignorant and stupid is no way to go through life son
https://www.moneycrashers.com/...
Public schools spend more and have worse results.
Unless "often" is some vanishingly small percentage, that's completely false.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/10/04/the-failures-of-for-profit-k-12-schools/
I guess while democracy dies in darkness facts die at the post
https://www.moneycrashers.com/...
Or are growing trees and farming shellfish things that are too workable and don't require large grants to over long periods of time ?
Because it turns out having privately funded road, health, education, and defense systems are bad for various reasons. This extends out to other areas, like some branches of science.
Seems public funding isn't that great either. Matter of fact private schools are so much better that parents are willing to pay absurd amounts of money to send their kids to them. Toll roads work pretty well, and most of the problems with the medical system stem from the government limiting the supply of doctors.
Yeah, sure. And let's replace the National Weather Service with The Weather Channel because hey, it's self-funding. And we could replace libraries with book stores too. And eventually you'll miss the point of why taxpayer-funded projects exist at all.
Why do they exist at all ? Looking at California they exist so politicians can rob the public blind and do everything they can to encourage people to leave the state.
The weather service is something that could easily self fund, there's actually a large number of private services that sell their product on the basis of doing a better job.
Between Franklin and Carnegie libraries were privately funded, and just out of curiosity when was the last time you used one ?
The idea that people should pay for what they use is so triggering it's considered flamebait. Wow some people need to emigrate to one of the remaining socialist paradises, No Korea, Cuba and Venezuela are still there.
Internet time depends on infrastructure that can fail in a variety of ways that radio isn't vulnerable to. It's very useful, but has its limitations. GPS isn't vulnerable in the way internet-based infrastructure is. However, it's difficult to receive a GPS signal in many places that shortwave radio can still be received. It isn't redundant infrastructure.
Redundant infrastructure is exactly what you have described. It's a pain in the rear to get WWV devices to work in general and you will need an antenna where either can't be received.
If it's so useful, it should be able to be self funding.
Like police and the military. They are useful, so maybe they should be self-funding too.
You really do not want to go there.
Why wouldn't you want them to be self funding ? Police/military/Fire/emergency services could all be funded by insurance policies.
The idea that "useful" things automatically -- or even can -- make money doesn't strike me as inherently true. And if it is we should start with grade schools and family households.
Grade Schools often are run for profit and much more efficiently than public schools. Family households used to be strictly for profit operations prior to the modern era. Children were your retirement policy.
If it's so useful, it should be able to be self funding. Get it out of the government hands all together, who knows maybe there are other uses for the tech, or maybe because it's free now, people aren't bothering to upgrade to things like internet time distribution or GPS.
Don't worry the hardware will take care of performance issues by the time the product ships*
*Am I joking or not ?
Ehhh they are going to switch over to the other great corporate lie
Google the company that cares more about people than profits.
And that’s a problem because?
Well in the old days, the market maker would have bridged the gap. (not for this situation, but for a sell at best price) the buyer would have paid something like $1.75 you would have gotten $1.25 and the market maker who was actually taking a risk would have made $0.50 (numbers just for illustration not meant to be accurate)
I'd start with Equifax
oh don't be so numerically challenged.
1 2/3 years vs 2 years
or given that you're young
1.66 years vs 2 years
But then again seeing as you are picking this up from what other people have to say
Trump's time in office is often spoken of in terms of months and Obama's is only spoken of in years
Expecting a considered and meaningful opinion may be a bit much.
BTW Apropos of nothing "Animal Farm" is a good read especially the sheep
Say, did you know that Donald Trump has signed more executive orders in the first 20 months of his presidency that Barack Obama did in his first two years?
If you don't like "rule by fiat", then you should really be uncomfortable with the degenerate Trump regime.
Wow
20 months vs 2 years ? Any reason you felt the need to change units there ? 20 months vs 24 makes it much easier to see the difference. Though it doesn't sound nearly as impressive.
Gotta ask before you posted that did you do any checking about the nature of the EOs ? I mean just how many were undoing previous EOs ?
Seems this would important to make the point you are trying to unless you are just looking to troll.
For running a business.
I want a game to teach me how to get the government grant to do something that's been done a thousand times before.
Really where is the there, here ? You'll have doctors frequently dispute what the correct treatment is and with diseases like cancer it doesn't help that the best you can often do is offer a statistical improvement of someone's chances.
Far better that more people can afford treatment faster than this remain the province of the priesthood.
I'm not going to get into whether I believe Trump is guilty of this, that, or the other thing, but I really do need to point out your ignorance. The conviction you're asking for is precisely the upholding the AC above you is calling for.
Conviction first, trial and evidence maybe later. Da comrade, maybe they will reopen the chekka so you can have a job.