Apple has apparently been up-front about the collection ever since it was added, having disclosed it in their security white papers over the last few years.
And of course the average iPhone user spends lots of time reading security white papers, in between the hours they devote to keeping up with all the Technical Service Bulletins for their car...
Sadly I think this will be another nail in the coffin. People are saying, oh, that's just Electrolysis, but maybe not, because Mozilla is only releasing that to a few % of users per release, and besides, the developers should all convert their add-ons to WebExtensions, blah blah. Look, I don't know or care what any of that shit is. What I know is I upgraded the browser from 47 to 50, and instead of things getting better, things quit working. Developers who have volunteered many man-hours creating Firefox extensions aren't all going to spend the time to port or rewrite or re-package or whatever the hell the procedure is. It's annoying to me as a user, I imagine it would be even more frustrating as an extension developer.
Between work and play, I spend 8 or 10 hours a day sitting in front of a computer. Browser choice is therefore a very intimate and personal decision that affects a substantial chunk of my life. If Firefox stops working the way I want it to, I'm going to (reluctantly) find a browser that does.
Someone is facing 30 years in prison for deceiving High Frequency Trading algorithms. These guys allegedly sold $15-$18 million worth of FIFA coins they obtained by deceiving EA's algorithms. If they'd just harvested a few hundred dollars worth of FIFA coins for their own use, probably nobody would have noticed or cared, but when you do it for profit and millions of dollars are involved, you can bet it's going to be considered a crime.
Some songs don't have lyrics. Can you tell me the music they're using in the Lexus commercials that came out last week? I *think* the artist is Justice (Cadillac used them a few years ago) but I don't know. I'm not about to install Shazam to find out, either, but it can't be looked up by the lyrics.
Thomas Mair, the man who assassinated Labour MP Jo Cox, reportedly owned a copy of Improvised Munitions, for example
So what? He shot and stabbed her, no improvised munitions were involved. If we're going to start banning books, I'm willing to bet he owned a copy of the Bible as well...
The obvious counterpoint is that at least with clamscan, he could have commented out the OOM logging, or added exit(1) in its place, or performed some other mitigation to stop the bad behavior. Can't do that with Spotify or other closed source programs, you're just fucked until/unless the vendor releases an update.
6% of the Foundation funds goes to charitable works, 90% goes to paychecks and benefits.
This is absolutely false, and another shining example of an untrue "news" story that so many people took as fact. Only 6% of the foundation's funds go to grants to other charities, which is where that number on the tax filings came from. (Speaking of tax returns... But I digress.) The foundation does a lot of its own charitable work out of its own funds. Those funds aren't given as grants to other charities, so they don't appear on IRS Form 990, Line 13.
Let me phrase this another way. If you raise $100, and you donate $6 to the Red Cross, and you spend $82 on food for homeless people, you didn't "only" give 6% to charity. You gave 88% to charity. The actual numbers for the Clinton foundation are closer to 88% charity, 12% overhead.
What other parts of the Constitution is it time to 'get rid of'???
The first amendment, apparently. Maybe a little of the second amendment. The pesky fourth still needs some trimming, and the fifth gets in the way of mandatory death sentences. Since we're making edits, why not tweak the sixth amendment too?
It is so bad, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
This is the real crazy, to me. Steve Bannon, the CEO of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, runs the Brietbart media empire (he's on a "leave of absence" at the moment, no conflict of interest at all, no siree). At least in years prior, there was some degree of separation; Murdoch and Ailes weren't explicitly on GWB's payroll, for example. It's become so blatant this time around. Even CNN's panels frequently feature Corey Lewandowski, who is still drawing a Trump paycheck. Nobody on their panels is a Clinton employee. Yet the outrage about CNN being the "Clinton News Network" continues.
Which leads to "fake news stories" on Facebook
I think what's led to most of those fake news stories is the fact that teenagers in Macedonia can spin up websites with advertising attached, and get millions of hits and thousands of dollars from their bogus and false "news" stories, as people who lack critical thinking skills continue to Fwd: Fwd: Fwd them in perpetuity.
Consider the audience. These are the people who scream that Snopes is "rigged," and whose primary source for news (Breitbart) is published by someone on their candidate's payroll, for fuck's sake. There's not too terribly much objectivity or critical thinking taking place in that world.
EVERY VERSION SINCE VISTA! yes that means Win 7 also.
Windows 7 does not have the telemetry if you don't install the KBs that infect you.
and your phone collects 100x more information about you then Win 10 does.
Enough with this red herring.
My phone doesn't have access to the files on my computers - I repeat, my computers, not Microsoft's - where I keep my private data. My computers, not my phone, store my tax documents, source code, proprietary work product and trade secrets, client data and invoicing, my passwords to everything, backups of family members' computers containing much of the same personal information, etc. My computers, not my phone, are where I conduct online banking and shopping and do anything else involving financial transactions and credentials. All of that data is private, and no one has permission to go fishing through it trying to "monetize" me or "enhance my experience." This is non-negotiable.
Google (or NSA) can siphon whatever they want off my phone. They'll find out I play Words with Friends, check Slashdot and Ars while I'm taking a dump, send and receive mostly boring emails on the account connected to the phone, and probably am overzealous about the number of server monitoring texts I have set up. If I really don't want to be physically tracked for some reason, I can leave the phone somewhere or pull the battery and drop the phone in a Faraday bag.
Just because I'm relatively OK with my phone being "leaky," and therefore rather cautious about what winds up there, does not mean I also must accept anyone mining through my private data on my computers. They are two entirely different worlds.
Now do you have sooner smoking gun no other experts have been able to produce that shows telemetry info being sent?
No, because as you mentioned, it's encrypted. We can't see what data is being sent, so no one can find a smoking gun.
Maybe it's just "Machine ID 324698018 ran NOTEPAD.EXE" which, while still unacceptable to me, isn't too terrible. On the other hand, maybe it's more like "User ID poor_bastard@live.com ran NOTEPAD.EXE to open file \\COKESERV\\TRADESECRETS\CocaColaRecipe.txt whose contents are..." in which case it's incredibly bad. But we don't and can't know, because the communications with the mother ship are encrypted.
I said "Satyanara" to Windows 10 after it rendered one of my computers useless, it went into infinite rebooting loops after an update. I dug up an old DVD of Windows 7 and did a fresh pave and reinstall on all my machines. I haven't looked back since. That was much earlier in the year, so I guess I'm not counted in the article's October installs. I have to figure a lot of people must be doing the same thing I did. Getting fed up with 10 and going back to the much better 7 experience.
The second the target is not Dyn but you (or Twitter or Microsoft), it doesn't matter how many secondaries or tertiaries you have, you still fall over.
I don't buy it. They can take down Dyn, Route53, CloudFlare, and EasyDNS all at the same time? I'd like to see that (well, I wouldn't really, but let them try).
Neither, apparently, would have had any impact on the Dyn DDoS or the Krebs DDoS. The Mirai botnet traffic comes from compromised devices using legitimate source IPs -- no one is spoofing anything.
Interesting points there, and you've swayed my opinion a bit, but I think I'm still weighted against such policies. I remember when record labels paid out millions over such a minimum pricing scheme for CDs. I saw that as a consumer victory (if only a short-lived one; they were sued again for artificially inflating the price of downloads). Record stores didn't really compete on service or customer satisfaction, even with minimum prices in force. Sure, the clerk at the mom 'n pop place might share a joint with you in the back room, but it was still just racks full of CDs priced the same as every other store with racks full of CDs. I guess some industries are better suited to minimum pricing strategies than others.
Slashdot Mirror
The first link (.onion) is to a Tor hidden site, you can access it via the Tor browser bundle.
You're slipping, you forgot to call him a "space nutter."
Apple has apparently been up-front about the collection ever since it was added, having disclosed it in their security white papers over the last few years.
And of course the average iPhone user spends lots of time reading security white papers, in between the hours they devote to keeping up with all the Technical Service Bulletins for their car...
Sadly I think this will be another nail in the coffin. People are saying, oh, that's just Electrolysis, but maybe not, because Mozilla is only releasing that to a few % of users per release, and besides, the developers should all convert their add-ons to WebExtensions, blah blah. Look, I don't know or care what any of that shit is. What I know is I upgraded the browser from 47 to 50, and instead of things getting better, things quit working. Developers who have volunteered many man-hours creating Firefox extensions aren't all going to spend the time to port or rewrite or re-package or whatever the hell the procedure is. It's annoying to me as a user, I imagine it would be even more frustrating as an extension developer.
Between work and play, I spend 8 or 10 hours a day sitting in front of a computer. Browser choice is therefore a very intimate and personal decision that affects a substantial chunk of my life. If Firefox stops working the way I want it to, I'm going to (reluctantly) find a browser that does.
You might want to monitor for outbound connections to alfabank.ru.
IRS to go after any one that wins in game cash now?
Hardly. But if you sell your in-game cash for $15 million in real money, the IRS will want their cut of the profit.
But is deceiving a computer fraud?
Someone is facing 30 years in prison for deceiving High Frequency Trading algorithms. These guys allegedly sold $15-$18 million worth of FIFA coins they obtained by deceiving EA's algorithms. If they'd just harvested a few hundred dollars worth of FIFA coins for their own use, probably nobody would have noticed or cared, but when you do it for profit and millions of dollars are involved, you can bet it's going to be considered a crime.
Some songs don't have lyrics. Can you tell me the music they're using in the Lexus commercials that came out last week? I *think* the artist is Justice (Cadillac used them a few years ago) but I don't know. I'm not about to install Shazam to find out, either, but it can't be looked up by the lyrics.
Thomas Mair, the man who assassinated Labour MP Jo Cox, reportedly owned a copy of Improvised Munitions, for example
So what? He shot and stabbed her, no improvised munitions were involved. If we're going to start banning books, I'm willing to bet he owned a copy of the Bible as well...
The obvious counterpoint is that at least with clamscan, he could have commented out the OOM logging, or added exit(1) in its place, or performed some other mitigation to stop the bad behavior. Can't do that with Spotify or other closed source programs, you're just fucked until/unless the vendor releases an update.
6% of the Foundation funds goes to charitable works, 90% goes to paychecks and benefits.
This is absolutely false, and another shining example of an untrue "news" story that so many people took as fact. Only 6% of the foundation's funds go to grants to other charities, which is where that number on the tax filings came from. (Speaking of tax returns... But I digress.) The foundation does a lot of its own charitable work out of its own funds. Those funds aren't given as grants to other charities, so they don't appear on IRS Form 990, Line 13.
Let me phrase this another way. If you raise $100, and you donate $6 to the Red Cross, and you spend $82 on food for homeless people, you didn't "only" give 6% to charity. You gave 88% to charity. The actual numbers for the Clinton foundation are closer to 88% charity, 12% overhead.
What other parts of the Constitution is it time to 'get rid of'???
The first amendment, apparently. Maybe a little of the second amendment. The pesky fourth still needs some trimming, and the fifth gets in the way of mandatory death sentences. Since we're making edits, why not tweak the sixth amendment too?
It is so bad, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
This is the real crazy, to me. Steve Bannon, the CEO of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, runs the Brietbart media empire (he's on a "leave of absence" at the moment, no conflict of interest at all, no siree). At least in years prior, there was some degree of separation; Murdoch and Ailes weren't explicitly on GWB's payroll, for example. It's become so blatant this time around. Even CNN's panels frequently feature Corey Lewandowski, who is still drawing a Trump paycheck. Nobody on their panels is a Clinton employee. Yet the outrage about CNN being the "Clinton News Network" continues.
Which leads to "fake news stories" on Facebook
I think what's led to most of those fake news stories is the fact that teenagers in Macedonia can spin up websites with advertising attached, and get millions of hits and thousands of dollars from their bogus and false "news" stories, as people who lack critical thinking skills continue to Fwd: Fwd: Fwd them in perpetuity.
ProPublica's ad didn't violate the Fair Housing Act; they advertised for a public speaking event, not for housing.
Consider the audience. These are the people who scream that Snopes is "rigged," and whose primary source for news (Breitbart) is published by someone on their candidate's payroll, for fuck's sake. There's not too terribly much objectivity or critical thinking taking place in that world.
Well, these things are all true today. Next year, who knows?
Trump threatens to weaken First Amendment protections for reporters
Donald Trump vows to "open up" libel laws to make suing the media easier.
"With me, they're not protected, because I'm not like other people. We're gonna open up those libel laws, folks, and we're gonna have people sue you like you never got sued before."
EVERY VERSION SINCE VISTA! yes that means Win 7 also.
Windows 7 does not have the telemetry if you don't install the KBs that infect you.
and your phone collects 100x more information about you then Win 10 does.
Enough with this red herring.
My phone doesn't have access to the files on my computers - I repeat, my computers, not Microsoft's - where I keep my private data. My computers, not my phone, store my tax documents, source code, proprietary work product and trade secrets, client data and invoicing, my passwords to everything, backups of family members' computers containing much of the same personal information, etc. My computers, not my phone, are where I conduct online banking and shopping and do anything else involving financial transactions and credentials. All of that data is private, and no one has permission to go fishing through it trying to "monetize" me or "enhance my experience." This is non-negotiable.
Google (or NSA) can siphon whatever they want off my phone. They'll find out I play Words with Friends, check Slashdot and Ars while I'm taking a dump, send and receive mostly boring emails on the account connected to the phone, and probably am overzealous about the number of server monitoring texts I have set up. If I really don't want to be physically tracked for some reason, I can leave the phone somewhere or pull the battery and drop the phone in a Faraday bag.
Just because I'm relatively OK with my phone being "leaky," and therefore rather cautious about what winds up there, does not mean I also must accept anyone mining through my private data on my computers. They are two entirely different worlds.
Now do you have sooner smoking gun no other experts have been able to produce that shows telemetry info being sent?
No, because as you mentioned, it's encrypted. We can't see what data is being sent, so no one can find a smoking gun.
Maybe it's just "Machine ID 324698018 ran NOTEPAD.EXE" which, while still unacceptable to me, isn't too terrible. On the other hand, maybe it's more like "User ID poor_bastard@live.com ran NOTEPAD.EXE to open file \\COKESERV\\TRADESECRETS\CocaColaRecipe.txt whose contents are..." in which case it's incredibly bad. But we don't and can't know, because the communications with the mother ship are encrypted.
I said "Satyanara" to Windows 10 after it rendered one of my computers useless, it went into infinite rebooting loops after an update. I dug up an old DVD of Windows 7 and did a fresh pave and reinstall on all my machines. I haven't looked back since. That was much earlier in the year, so I guess I'm not counted in the article's October installs. I have to figure a lot of people must be doing the same thing I did. Getting fed up with 10 and going back to the much better 7 experience.
He's not obsessed with his daughter
Right, he just thinks she's a "piece of ass." What a stand-up guy...
The ACORN people got fired too, before it was discovered that those videos were faked and O'Keefe was ordered to pay up $100,000 for that stunt.
Donald Trump's foundation paid O'Keefe to make the Veritas videos.
You believe whatever you want to. O'Keefe is a convicted criminal whose "exposé videos" have repeatedly been proven fake.
The second the target is not Dyn but you (or Twitter or Microsoft), it doesn't matter how many secondaries or tertiaries you have, you still fall over.
I don't buy it. They can take down Dyn, Route53, CloudFlare, and EasyDNS all at the same time? I'd like to see that (well, I wouldn't really, but let them try).
Neither, apparently, would have had any impact on the Dyn DDoS or the Krebs DDoS. The Mirai botnet traffic comes from compromised devices using legitimate source IPs -- no one is spoofing anything.
"Store all your personal data on other peoples' computers," they said. What could possibly go wrong?
Interesting points there, and you've swayed my opinion a bit, but I think I'm still weighted against such policies. I remember when record labels paid out millions over such a minimum pricing scheme for CDs. I saw that as a consumer victory (if only a short-lived one; they were sued again for artificially inflating the price of downloads). Record stores didn't really compete on service or customer satisfaction, even with minimum prices in force. Sure, the clerk at the mom 'n pop place might share a joint with you in the back room, but it was still just racks full of CDs priced the same as every other store with racks full of CDs. I guess some industries are better suited to minimum pricing strategies than others.